MLB 2010 Discussion Thread

Ah, what a night. Got such a kick watching all of my Yankee-hating friends have to eat their words. Always remember that you don't say anything about the Yankees until you get all 27 outs.
 
I know it's a best of seven series and nothing is over yet, but man, that loss really stings tonight. The bullpen needs to get it the fuck together. You can't walk two guys and face A-Rod with no outs. Young should have made that play at third, too, none of this "oley" bullshit. Get in front of the goddamn ball, block it, and get at least an out out of it.

At least the bats showed some life early and CJ had a great start, even if it was pissed away. Rangers have to just shake it off and get back to work tomorrow.
 
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[quote name='JoeJohn']Yanks going to win easy over the rangers. Should be a fun series to watch.[/QUOTE]
Shut up.
 
See, this is exactly what's wrong with baseball and the same thing that killed basketball, fucking "dynasties." Worst word to ever happen to sports, it takes all the fun out of watching when you rarely see the underdog win. Sure football has its share of perpetual losers and perpetual winners but you don't see one team dominating the entire sport for an entire fucking century. Enjoy it Yankees fans but just know that the Yankees domination is one of the many reasons baseball is in decline.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']See, this is exactly what's wrong with baseball and the same thing that killed basketball, fucking "dynasties." Worst word to ever happen to sports, it takes all the fun out of watching when you rarely see the underdog win. Sure football has its share of perpetual losers and perpetual winners but you don't see one team dominating the entire sport for an entire fucking century. Enjoy it Yankees fans but just know that the Yankees domination is one of the many reasons baseball is in decline.[/QUOTE]

really? i hope you are just writing this because you are an angry Ranger fan watching the rangers blow the lead and the yankees just happened to be hitting in the clutch like they always do. This should be nothing new and put the onus on the Rangers for blowing up as late as they did. They should have put the game away easy but they stunk up the joint in the 8th inning. 2 bobbles in the OF and your relief pitching is ineffective. Deal with it, its a 7 game series.

I like how the Yankees are scape goats to being the League's worst problem. No not steroids, not attendence, heck not even a bad economy...but Baseball is ruined because a team who happens to be run by a great owner just happens to win all the time. Keep drinking the haterade man, must taste good.
 
AHAHAHAHA....this thread is hilarious tonight. Love all the whiney bitch comments. There's no excuse for blowing a 5 run lead. Payroll didn't lose that game. If the Ranger pen pitched like that all season, they wouldn't be in the playoffs. They choked. Plain and simple. Get over it.

Love those pics though. Just need the captions "At first we were like..." and "But then we were like..." Awesome!
 
It'd be damn nice to have a 2-0 lead by the time they face Cliff Lee. That's a toss up game so it'd be nice to still have homefield advantage if they lose to him.

As for the NLCS, I expect the Giants to win it. I don't know why... I mean the Phillies are better in every department except for the bullpen, but I just can't overlook those damn pitchers for the Giants. Their first postseason starts ever and it was smooth sailing.
 
[quote name='Daywalker']
As for the NLCS, I expect the Giants to win it. I don't know why... I mean the Phillies are better in every department except for the bullpen, but I just can't overlook those damn pitchers for the Giants. Their first postseason starts ever and it was smooth sailing.[/QUOTE]

I don't know about the bullpen. Now, I hope to the baseball gods you're right, but here's the thing. While the bullpen statistically may be better, Brian Wilson did not look good against the Braves. Here's hoping he pitches better against the Phils.
 
Watched the game last night. Don't really care who wins but hoping for a long series either way.

Those pictures are great and I agree with n8, they definitely need a "at first I was all like" caption going on.

Phillies Giants tonight should be pretty good. Lincecum vs. Halladay is a pretty good birthday gift.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']really? i hope you are just writing this because you are an angry Ranger fan watching the rangers blow the lead and the yankees just happened to be hitting in the clutch like they always do. This should be nothing new and put the onus on the Rangers for blowing up as late as they did. They should have put the game away easy but they stunk up the joint in the 8th inning. 2 bobbles in the OF and your relief pitching is ineffective. Deal with it, its a 7 game series.

I like how the Yankees are scape goats to being the League's worst problem. No not steroids, not attendence, heck not even a bad economy...but Baseball is ruined because a team who happens to be run by a great owner just happens to win all the time. Keep drinking the haterade man, must taste good.[/QUOTE]

Nope, not a Rangers fan. Just tired of seeing the same payroll buying a championship year after year. I feel the same way about the Yankees as I do about the Lakers as an aside.

Economy can't be the reason because MLB has been on the decline for much longer than the last couple years. Steroids scandal is over, long over. What's not over is the "oh, yay the Yankees are winning again because the MLB refuses to implement any sort of useful salary cap and one team can afford to buy up any talent that comes along"
 
[quote name='Jimbo Slice']Phillies Giants tonight should be pretty good. Lincecum vs. Halladay is a pretty good birthday gift.[/QUOTE]

Yup, it's going to be a fantastic pitching duel.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']See, this is exactly what's wrong with baseball and the same thing that killed basketball, fucking "dynasties." Worst word to ever happen to sports, it takes all the fun out of watching when you rarely see the underdog win. Sure football has its share of perpetual losers and perpetual winners but you don't see one team dominating the entire sport for an entire fucking century. Enjoy it Yankees fans but just know that the Yankees domination is one of the many reasons baseball is in decline.[/QUOTE]

...cry more...

Every year, baseball's attendance numbers go up. Explain how it's in decline. Oh...my bad....it's not. You were just looking for something to justify your crying.
 
[quote name='JStryke']I don't know about the bullpen. Now, I hope to the baseball gods you're right, but here's the thing. While the bullpen statistically may be better, Brian Wilson did not look good against the Braves. Here's hoping he pitches better against the Phils.[/QUOTE]

As a Giants fan, that's how B-Weezy always pitches.

High-wire act.

Giants baseball = Torture.
 
I stopped watching the Yankee game last night after the 6th inning thinking the Yankee bats will be shut down the entire night. Woke up this morning and voila, nice little surprise there :lol:

[quote name='RedvsBlue']Nope, not a Rangers fan. Just tired of seeing the same payroll buying a championship year after year. I feel the same way about the Yankees as I do about the Lakers as an aside.

Economy can't be the reason because MLB has been on the decline for much longer than the last couple years. Steroids scandal is over, long over. What's not over is the "oh, yay the Yankees are winning again because the MLB refuses to implement any sort of useful salary cap and one team can afford to buy up any talent that comes along"[/QUOTE]

You do know that some owners pocket money instead of spending it on their teams? A team like the Marlins, for example, probably got more money from the luxury tax than they spent on their payroll. Don't blame the Yankees for wanting to win. Spending it on good players means better product on field, higher attendance, more revenue, and more money to spend the next year. Good business strategy, good baseball strategy.

Besides, money =/= championships.
 
[quote name='ph33r m3']As a Giants fan, that's how B-Weezy always pitches.

High-wire act.

Giants baseball = Torture.[/QUOTE]

Wasn't aware of that. Since I live on the east coast and never really get to see the Giants play. Funny how both closers can be that way though. I've seen my share of Philly games and it's always interesting when Lidge is on the mound.
 
[quote name='madbst']You do know that some owners pocket money instead of spending it on their teams? A team like the Marlins, for example, probably got more money from the luxury tax than they spent on their payroll. Don't blame the Yankees for wanting to win. Spending it on good players means better product on field, higher attendance, more revenue, and more money to spend the next year. Good business strategy, good baseball strategy.

Besides, money =/= championships.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. People like to cry, "The Yankees are ruining baseball." But it's funny, because no one was crying that when they blew the ALCS against the Sox. No one cried it, either, when they lost in the first round three years in a row. And I sure as hell didn't hear a single tear drop hit the floor when they didn't even make the playoffs in '08. And they spent a shit load in every, single one of the years, the same as they are paying out now.

At the end of the day, even if baseball had a salary cap (not happening...the MLBPA is too powerful and organized to ever let that happen), the Yankees would still spend the absolute max, and a bunch of other teams would still spend $40 million. Also, the Yankees would still get most of the major talent they wanted, because plenty of players want to win.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue'] Just tired of seeing the same payroll buying a championship year after year.[/QUOTE]

I also loved this comment. I guess this guy only watches baseball once every 10 years considering that last year was the Yanks first title since 2000. Between that time, the Diamondbacks, Angels, Marlins, Red Sox, White Sox, Cardinals, and Phillies won titles. SEVEN different teams in 8 years. Oh my God, what horrible parity!!! You can't blame the Yankees that the "crappier" teams in the league couldn't use that 9 year freaking span to build a competitive team.

Look at the NFL. I'm a Bills fan. The Bills have sucked HORRIBLY for 10 years now. While the Patriots have been dominant during that same span. The NFL has a salary cap. What should I blame for the Bills sucking? The Patriots? The fact that there IS a salary cap? Or how about shitty team management. Guess what. MLB teams suffer from the same problem.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Nope, not a Rangers fan. Just tired of seeing the same payroll buying a championship year after year. I feel the same way about the Yankees as I do about the Lakers as an aside.

Economy can't be the reason because MLB has been on the decline for much longer than the last couple years. Steroids scandal is over, long over. What's not over is the "oh, yay the Yankees are winning again because the MLB refuses to implement any sort of useful salary cap and one team can afford to buy up any talent that comes along"[/QUOTE]

havent we gone through this argument many many many times here in this thread. A cap wouldnt do crap. The Yanks are managed really freaking well on all levels from financial all the way to the grounds crew. They would be doing a dishonor and a disservice to their fans and to their own brand if they just pocketed the money every day. Also the Yankees spend money at a loss every year. They dont expect to make money because thats what the Yankees werent originally built for. George wanted Championships and he will get them any way he could. Hal and family are following the same business model that their father imposed. Spend money to make money. The Yanks make more than enough to cover losses every year because they put up a great product on the field. I mean look at the team in queens. We have the 3rd highest payroll in the league and all it brought us was 4th place finish...oh yeah not to mention 4 of the worst seasons in baseball history.

Success comes from great management all the way down to team chemistry. You put the right group players on the field and you will win games. Its that simple. every big money signing the yankees have signed may not work out so its not just because the yankees spend money. They just use their money the right way and will always spend money to improve their product.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']So no one wants to come out and talk shit today? Can't wait to see Lee show up Monday and force the Yanks to put CC out there for game 4.[/QUOTE]

I love when sports "fans" say dumb things like this. The Rangers won a game today. Congrats. What do you want Yankee fans to do? Apologize for laughing at the complete implosion of the Texas bullpen last night? Just like you weren't talking any "shit" last night, we aren't talking any tonight. Kind of...I don't know...makes sense. And you better hope Lee shows up, because the series is pretty much over if he doesn't. Probably won't even make it to back to Texas if the Rangers don't win Game 3. And yes, I'm saying that despite Burnett lurking in Game 4.
 
Ehh...we're still the champs till someone eliminates us. That's what grants you the right to talk shit. I can understand Ranger fans not being familiar with the feeling though. Hughes blew it today. Hard to win a game when he can't get through an inning without giving up a run. Lee isn't invincible. If the bats show up Monday and Pettitte pitches like he's capable, the Yanks have every chance to win the game. The key thing is, despite being the wild card, the Yankees once again took home field advantage away. Good luck winning in the Bronx.
 
[quote name='bigdaddybruce44']I love when sports "fans" say dumb things like this. The Rangers won a game today. Congrats. What do you want Yankee fans to do? Apologize for laughing at the complete implosion of the Texas bullpen last night? Just like you weren't talking any "shit" last night, we aren't talking any tonight. Kind of...I don't know...makes sense. And you better hope Lee shows up, because the series is pretty much over if he doesn't. Probably won't even make it to back to Texas if the Rangers don't win Game 3. And yes, I'm saying that despite Burnett lurking in Game 4.[/QUOTE]

I want Yankees "fans" to start crying. I want them to start whining and bitching about how next year things will be different once they go out and get Cliff Lee.

As far as me having to hope Lee shows up, you have got to be kidding me. The Rangers have knocked out Yanks starters early in two games. You think that all of a sudden that the bats are going to go silent and this team is going to choke( if they were going to choke, game five in Tampa would have been the time to do it). They took four out of the last five when they played in the regular season and have just shown that they can force the Yanks to get into their pen early. I wouldn't be so brash with assertions that the high and mighty Yankees are going to go home and sweep. Not to say it can't happen, but home field advantage in the playoffs is not that big of a game changer. The Rangers just showed that they have no problem going on the road and sticking it to the home team.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']I want Yankees "fans" to start crying. I want them to start whining and bitching about how next year things will be different once they go out and get Cliff Lee.[/QUOTE]

Wow, that's some bad ring envy you've got there. Honestly, if the Yankees were to lose this year, it wouldn't be a huge deal. The monkey is already off their backs by winning last year. Expecting a team to win back to back titles is pretty crazy. Sure, I'd like them to win, but as many teams have found out, there are so many factors that add up to winning a championship.

Even with the right group of guys, you have to avoid injuries, slumps, bad luck, weather, etc. With the kind of year guys like Burnett, Teixeira, and A-Rod have had, I'd really be surprised if they were able to put it together for the next two weeks and bring home another title. This isn't me "backing down" or "losing faith" in my team. I just understand how the game works. Still, Texas has to be kicking themselves for letting game one get away. They'd have the Yanks backed into a corner right now had they been able to execute properly. As it stands, even if Lee wins, it doesn't guarantee anything.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Wow, that's some bad ring envy you've got there. Honestly, if the Yankees were to lose this year, it wouldn't be a huge deal. The monkey is already off their backs by winning last year. Expecting a team to win back to back titles is pretty crazy. Sure, I'd like them to win, but as many teams have found out, there are so many factors that add up to winning a championship.[/QUOTE]

Pretty much. What's funny is, if the Yankees did win every year, these people (you know who you are) would lose their freaking minds. I mean, just look at the rage they have now, and all the Yankees did was win last year. If they were to put together another run like '96 to '00, these folks would absolutely go bat shit insane.

In the end, during my lifetime, the Yankees have 5 World Series. I've been able to root them on and enjoy them during all five of those runs. And anyone else my age definitely has not had those kind of opportunities as fans, so I'm definitely lucky in that regard. If the Yankees were to lose, I'd be fine with it, as long as Philly doesn't win. I don't wanna hear the Philly fans around here. Everyone else is fair game. I would probably prefer the Giants pull it off, just so a dear friend of mine can finally not suffer.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu'] As it stands, even if Lee wins, it doesn't guarantee anything.[/QUOTE]

Just to be a smart ass...it does guarantee something. If the Rangers win game 3, it's guaranteed to go back to Texas, assuming the Yankees don't lose 3 in a row (don't foresee that) in the Bronx. ;)
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']I want Yankees "fans" to start crying. I want them to start whining and bitching about how next year things will be different once they go out and get Cliff Lee.


As far as me having to hope Lee shows up, you have got to be kidding me. The Rangers have knocked out Yanks starters early in two games. You think that all of a sudden that the bats are going to go silent and this team is going to choke( if they were going to choke, game five in Tampa would have been the time to do it). They took four out of the last five when they played in the regular season and have just shown that they can force the Yanks to get into their pen early. I wouldn't be so brash with assertions that the high and mighty Yankees are going to go home and sweep. Not to say it can't happen, but home field advantage in the playoffs is not
 
But wait I thought the Phillies were going to stomp all over the Giants?

I thought the Giants shouldn't even showed up to the series since they were going to be swept....

According to ESPN, if Doc Halladay threw a no-hitter against the Reds he'd breeze by the Giants hitters...

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LET'S fuckING GO

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Calm down dude. It's one game. I surely didn't expect the Phillies to sweep the Giants and I wouldn't be on here gloating if they did win the first game. There are so many sore winners/losers in this thread. Do we have to shit all over other teams constantly? Does it really make you sleep better at night going off the hinges on this site? So much violence and anger.
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']Just to be a smart ass...it does guarantee something. If the Rangers win game 3, it's guaranteed to go back to Texas, assuming the Yankees don't lose 3 in a row (don't foresee that) in the Bronx. ;)[/QUOTE]

Well, last I checked, an assumption was not a guarantee. ;)
 
Haha nothing worse than a sore winner.

Game 1 was a stinker. Couple bad calls and 2 bad pitches by Roy sealed the loss. I still think the Phillies are the better team though, and they will win in the end.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Well, last I checked, an assumption was not a guarantee. ;)[/QUOTE]

Well, ok. I guarantee, if games 3 and 4 are split, the series goes back to Texas. ;)

I don't care who reps the NL, as long as the Giants don't win the series. Ph33r would never shut up about it. That and his hands would be stuck to his keyboard...
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']Well, ok. I guarantee, if games 3 and 4 are split, the series goes back to Texas. ;)

I don't care who reps the NL, as long as the Giants don't win the series. Ph33r would never shut up about it. That and his hands would be stuck to his keyboard...[/QUOTE]

Would I ever shut up about it? One day......in the far, far, far, future.
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']Well, ok. I guarantee, if games 3 and 4 are split, the series goes back to Texas. ;)[/QUOTE]

lol...those two words don't go together. And I guarantee if the Yankees sweep in the Bronx, the series will be over. But I also guarantee that if Cliff Lee pitches in all 3 games and wins them all, Texas will go to the World Series. Damn, there's "guarantees" all over the place!
 
Ya know, most of the time, I subscribe to the theory that the NL's hitting is just inferior to the AL. But based on what the 4 teams that are left have shown, I've gotta say, this year, the NL's pitching is just superior. I really don't know if either AL club could beat the Phillies or Giants this year. Although, really, that kinda makes sense considering offense was down all across the league this year. Bring back steroids! Need more runs! haha
 
[quote name='ph33r m3']Would I ever shut up about it? One day......in the far, far, far, future.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't expect any less... or more from you. ;)

[quote name='n8rockerasu']lol...those two words don't go together. And I guarantee if the Yankees sweep in the Bronx, the series will be over. But I also guarantee that if Cliff Lee pitches in all 3 games and wins them all, Texas will go to the World Series. Damn, there's "guarantees" all over the place![/QUOTE]

I guarantee their will be 2 teams in the World Series. And that there will be no fewer than 4 games played.

But in all seriousness, glad joking can be done. Though, I do miss wildpac's bullshit....not really.

[quote name='tcrash247']I don't like Cody Ross.[/QUOTE]

Take him away, and the Giants have scored 2 runs.
 
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