Nintendo 3DS - General Discussion Thread

No tegra, wow that is truly depressing. Although if it looks better than the PSP I will be happy. I mean graphics don't mean much to me, but I do have some standards.
 
[quote name='DarkSageRK']Doesn't reading topics on the PSP forum go against your vow to be a living, breathing Nintendo mouthpiece or something?[/QUOTE]

I forgot I couldn't find the topic through the front page.

So, download any good games illegally lately? Or are you just here to troll like you usually do?
 
[quote name='Strell']What a funny statement coming from someone who pirates PSP games.[/QUOTE]

Aren't we all just waiting for a flash cart to be made? :lol:
 
[quote name='Zmonkay']Aren't we all just waiting for a flash cart to be made? :lol:[/QUOTE]

No because that would be illegal. You wouldn't download a car.
 
hype hype hype for the Nintendo 3DS, i think its gonna be about $200 at launch.
can't wait to get this bad boy :D

those games can't all be the launch line up, if it is then :O best launch ever, my wallet will be killed
 
Has Nintendo ever released a handheld for over $200? I don't see why they'd start now. I would say that Nintendo always knows what they're doing price-wise, but the DSi XL price kind of negates that.
 
Pretty impressed with what I saw at e3. MGS 3DS can't come soon enough. I wish it were playable.. My eyes were hurting or a bit irritated after looking in 3D mode after a few minutes.
 
[quote name='budsmoka']No because that would be illegal. You wouldn't download a car.[/QUOTE]

I would if I could! jk, but in all seriousness, Nintendo is going to be getting an absurd amount of money from me at this things launch if even half of the announced games so far are launch or near launch titles. Just hoping the games don't get even more expensive. Probably 40.00 games, with Square-Enix games being 50.00 though... ugh.
 
[quote name='pete5883']As much as I love MGS, I'm not buying MGS3 for a 3rd time.
Unless they add something.
[/QUOTE]

Adding A WHOLE NEW DIMENSION isn't enough for you? :]
 
[quote name='utopianmachine']Pirates are killing the industry. So, insert obligatory "Pirates, GTFO."[/QUOTE]


:lol::lol: do some research, less than 5% of gamers pirate software. trust me piracy is having little to no effect on the videogame industry. if anything, the absurd $59.99 msrp for a videogame is killing the industry. i mean really? $60 for a piece of entertainment printed on a dvd9 that costs less than a penny....... dont use the production costs as an excuse for the high pricing. movies also have very high production costs but do they sell their dvds for $60?

rant over:lol:
 
[quote name='wwe101']:lol::lol: do some research, less than 5% of gamers pirate software. trust me piracy is having little to no effect on the videogame industry. if anything, the absurd $59.99 msrp for a videogame is killing the industry. i mean really? $60 for a piece of entertainment printed on a dvd9 that costs less than a penny....... dont use the production costs as an excuse for the high pricing. movies also have very high production costs but do they sell their dvds for $60?

rant over:lol:[/QUOTE]

Oh god, I don't want to get into this discussion, and if it persists further into this kind of thing, we might have to have a mod come around. It's just not needed here.

But quickly:

1) 5% or less might pirate, but information is coming out showing that some games on an individual bases are having staggering amounts of pirated downloads.

2) "High prices" is ridiculous. Prices were much higher in the SNES/Genesis days, and even into the N64/PS1 days. Further, collector's editions now are on every other game. The price is not adversarial between the developer/publisher and the consume.

3) Production costs AREN'T used as the pricing excuse. Development is. You make it sound like people don't work for 2+ years on a game.

4) Don't compare games to movies.

Can we please not derail this thread any further? No one is going to change their mind, regardless of how logical an argument or counterargument is. If you want, there are plenty of other threads to discuss this in. I'm done with this particular portion of discussion, by the way.
 
[quote name='Salamando3000']As far as Cost is concerned, using the $170 DSi as a starting point...

Most of what I read on the 3DS speculates that their 3D effect is achieved through use of a Parallax Barrier on the LCD Screen. According to one article I've been able to find, a screen with PB will add $10-$20 on the price by itself. Adding an accelerometer, gyroscope, another camera lens, and vastly improved hardware and I could easily see a $200 price point. That is, if they just sell stuff at-cost. If they decide they want more profit from each or don't mind taking a hit to move more software, the price moves accordingly.[/QUOTE]

Nintendo will drive the cost of those components down just by ordering millions of them,
 
[quote name='DarkSageRK']Doesn't reading topics on the PSP forum go against your vow to be a living, breathing Nintendo mouthpiece or something?[/QUOTE]

This user just sent me a PM calling me a "ho," and then proceeded into a long rant justifying his piracy. He's been reported now.

[quote name='wwe101']:lol::lol: do some research, less than 5% of gamers pirate software. trust me piracy is having little to no effect on the videogame industry. if anything, the absurd $59.99 msrp for a videogame is killing the industry. i mean really? $60 for a piece of entertainment printed on a dvd9 that costs less than a penny....... dont use the production costs as an excuse for the high pricing. movies also have very high production costs but do they sell their dvds for $60?

rant over:lol:[/QUOTE]

"Hardly anyone is stabbing video game companies, so I'll stab 'em a little too!"
 
[quote name='budsmoka']They have $10 movie tickets.[/QUOTE]

I'm lucky enough to have a theater near me that has $5 tickets Monday through Thursday. Looking forward to seeing The Last Airbender in a few weeks.
 
[quote name='Strell']Utopian gonna nunchuk some ass while wearing a Pikachu hat.

.....Don't know if want....[/QUOTE]

It'll be so sweet. Pasty-white gamer butts flying everywhere.

Hey Strell, I just ignored someone for the first time. Our piracy buddy.
 
I'm 99 percent sure 2 years after launch nintendo will release the REAL, polished system design with a bigger upper screen. (ala gba > gba sp and ds phat > ds lite.)
Just don't act suprised.
(I personally love the 2 years upgrades, though the first upgrade betta keep the ds compatibility!)
 
[quote name='deftoast']I'm 99 percent sure 2 years after launch nintendo will release the REAL, polished system design with a bigger upper screen. (ala gba > gba sp and ds phat > ds lite.)
Just don't act suprised.
(I personally love the 2 years upgrades, though the first upgrade betta keep the ds compatibility!)[/QUOTE]

Yeah, upgrades are pretty inevitable. But there's no way I can wait 2 years from the first 3DS.
 
about metal gear for 3ds, did kojima say he is actually working on that? or was that just a sample to show what a mgs game "would" look like if one was ever "developed" for it?

I would love having a remake of MGS3
 
[quote name='TigerEye']about metal gear for 3ds, did kojima say he is actually working on that? or was that just a sample to show what a mgs game "would" look like if one was ever "developed" for it?

I would love having a remake of MGS3[/QUOTE]

I don't know if Kojima himself is working on it, but there are two things that are certain...there is a Metal Gear game being developed for 3DS, and there was footage of a Metal Gear game running as a demo. The demo may have been just a tech demo to show off what the 3DS can do and may not be representative of what the game will actually be. It would seem silly to build all those models for a tech demo (not that it hasn't been done before...see: Final Fantasy 7 on PS3 footage).
 
I think Black and White will still come out on the DS but they will have some sort of 3DS capabilities. The screen shots make it look like they are going for a 3D effect. I think the game will make use of the 3DS' 3D but not its actual horsepower. I think the next entries to the series will make the portable games take on a style similar to the Gamecube ones.
 
[quote name='Salamando3000']I don't know if Kojima himself is working on it, but there are two things that are certain...there is a Metal Gear game being developed for 3DS, and there was footage of a Metal Gear game running as a demo. The demo may have been just a tech demo to show off what the 3DS can do and may not be representative of what the game will actually be. It would seem silly to build all those models for a tech demo (not that it hasn't been done before...see: Final Fantasy 7 on PS3 footage).[/QUOTE]

yeah thats what I thought, its a complete waste of time to recreate an entire environment and improve all the graphics/ textures and character models just to show it off one time. even on kojimas official e3 site he has MGS3d up alongside of the new castle vania and MGS-rising. although there is a possibility nintendo can pay devs to build tech demos. even the fact that it says "naked sample" has me confused. also its possible, but I think that would be insane working on a new MGS already, he just released PW and MGS rising is comming soon, or you could be right he might just have his team working on it but hes not. but I highly debut that because in the interview kojima said he was "experimenting" with MGS on the 3ds and he even tweeted that his "seceret project" is MGS-3D

anyway its all good, I think either way a MGS title is comming to the 3DS.
sorry for the wall of text. lol.

wow I use quote marks alot
 
The Naked Sample most likely has to do with the Les Enfants Terribles Project....
Zero taking Big Boss's DNA to make clones...Solid and Liquid...and Solidus
 
I'm fairly sure it's been confirmed that the MGS title is indeed a 3DS remake of MGS 3. Since Kojima seemed absolutely fine with ignoring the DS for the last six years, I can't say whether or not he's going to bring out a Substance/Subsistance style remake with a lot of addons and things, but I'd like to be optimistic in hoping so. Further, I don't know if he himself is working on, but the implication is that he's definitely one of the guys driving the project.

I think Zone of the Enders 3D could be mind blowing (despite my distaste with trying out ZOE2, which I feel I owe another try). I wonder if he's considering that?
 
[quote name='budsmoka']I think Black and White will still come out on the DS but they will have some sort of 3DS capabilities. The screen shots make it look like they are going for a 3D effect. [/QUOTE]

Wait, what did I miss? Black and White coming to 3DS?
 
[quote name='utopianmachine']Wait, what did I miss? Black and White coming to 3DS?[/QUOTE]

No but it may use the 3DS' 3d like gold and silver used the Gameboy color's color.
 
They are just DS titles. I guess we could find out there's some 3DS capabilities added in for fun, but for the time being, they are just another Pokemon iteration.
 
Kojima is directer and designer for the MGS 3DS.

I don't know, doesn't sound like a remake.
The sample at E3 is just a tech demo according to him to test how stealth could work.

Oh well, we'll see what it turns into.
 
Well. Shit.
Nintendo has packed 3DS with so many features that it's not even promoting some of the major ones. Today's Nikkei detailed one such silent feature: software install.

According to the paper, gamers will be able copy 3DS software to internal memory. Multiple games can be stored with the system in this fashion. You'll be able to switch between games by selecting a title from the system's main menu.

The paper notes that due to this feature, there'll be no need to swap cartridges. When outside of the home, you won't need to carry game cartridges with you.

Nikkei is a financial paper, so it obviously didn't get into the specifics on how this installation system will work. We'll have to wait for Nintendo to provide clarification.
Click to expand...
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/06/17/3ds_software_install/

There's got to be a catch, or some authentication method.
3DS can't be this good.

Nikkei originally broke the news about this system being 3D I believe, so they have good sources.
 
wow, my biggest issue with portable gaming is carrying carts around and switching between games. If this is true without some authentication method that defeats the convenience of it, then it is great news.
 
Someone posed the idea that installs could have a countdown.
Like they'll only be playable on the system for a few days before you'd have to use the cart, or reinstall.

Who knows really.

Oh, I missed being excited about new hardware!
 
[quote name='wasabi5858']wow, my biggest issue with portable gaming is carrying carts around and switching between games. If this is true without some authentication method that defeats the convenience of it, then it is great news.[/QUOTE]

I think it has to be similar to 360's install feature. You'll need the cart to play it, but it'll play off the memory. I imagine they've done it in a way that if you need 2 carts (there's never been more than 1 cart for DS games before...) you'll only need one cart.

But seriously, this is big. Okay, what won't this thing do? It seems like Nintendo's going balls to the wall with this thing.
 
[quote name='dallow']http://ds.ign.com/articles/109/1098405p1.html

About 18 or so 8 bit games were demoed with full 3D effects.

SMB, Mega Man 2, etc.[/QUOTE]

Nice. That'll strike a soft spot for retro gamers.

[quote name='dallow']Well. Shit.
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/06/17/3ds_software_install/

There's got to be a catch, or some authentication method.
3DS can't be this good.[/QUOTE]

That's really amazing! I too am not a fan of carrying multiple games with me, but it's much easier for me, being a girl and therefore owning a purse. I'd love the ability to keep the top few games I'm playing in my 3DS and switch when the mood strikes, much like how I switch between Arcade games on the 360.

[quote name='KingBroly']But seriously, this is big. Okay, what won't this thing do? It seems like Nintendo's going balls to the wall with this thing.[/QUOTE]

If they could address the issue of DSiWare being tied only to one system, I'd feel like the universe has righted itself.
 
Nice! My case right now can hold about 6 games, but is kind of bulky. Being able to install multiple games would let me get a smaller, more form factor case.
 
[quote name='Strell']Since Kojima seemed absolutely fine with ignoring the DS for the last six years,

I think Zone of the Enders 3D could be mind blowing (despite my distaste with trying out ZOE2, which I feel I owe another try). I wonder if he's considering that?[/QUOTE]
Kojima Productions made Lunar Knights for DS, aka Boktai 4. And yes, you should give ZOE2 another try.
[quote name='dallow']What are you talking about Broly?
It says you don't need the cart to play.[/QUOTE]
Isn't this probably a mistranslation of Iwata's comments about the wireless communication working even if you don't have the game in the slot? I'm willing to bet it is.
 
I really like what I'm hearing on being able to install games to a hard drive. This works especially well for me for "games" like PT: Walking. I never keep that cart in my DSi, but I'd like to keep up the habit of tracking my progress. They should've had a channel download, like Wii Fit, but whatever.
 
I'd bet that the installing is a misunderstanding somewhere too. But, if you can install it, there isn't really any reason to do so other than to not have the cartridge in there. Unlike disc-based games there would probably be very little, if any, differences in load times.
 
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