Official 2011-2012 NBA Season thread

Love dropping 50 like its nothing

Cant believe anyone would think Griffin is better than Love

Too bad refs are making sure Thunder stay in the game
 
[quote name='renique46']Love dropping 50 like its nothing

Cant believe anyone would think Griffin is better than Love

Too bad refs are making sure Thunder stay in the game[/QUOTE]

Love has a more diverse offensive game that Griffin right now, but Griffin has shown flashes of the kind of footwork that will get him to the next level offensively. Right now, he's relying almost solely on his athleticism, and it's working pretty well. However, both have a lot of room for growth, especially defensively. The standard for power forwards is Tim Duncan at his prime, and they aren't there yet.

Side note: Scary moment with Pietrus tonight. He's had an Xray and CT scan so far and will have an MRI in the morning. Haven't heard any specific results though.
 
Griffin is just more exciting...Love is on a different level all together. He cleary should be in the MVP talks but will politics will win out.
 
[quote name='BigSpoonyBard']Love has a more diverse offensive game that Griffin right now, but Griffin has shown flashes of the kind of footwork that will get him to the next level offensively. Right now, he's relying almost solely on his athleticism, and it's working pretty well. However, both have a lot of room for growth, especially defensively. The standard for power forwards is Tim Duncan at his prime, and they aren't there yet.

Side note: Scary moment with Pietrus tonight. He's had an Xray and CT scan so far and will have an MRI in the morning. Haven't heard any specific results though.[/QUOTE]

Concussion. He returned to Boston earlier today. They say he'll be back soon, but thats how it always is with Boston (KG in 09, Shaq last year) so we'll see. He's been tweeting thanks to fans for their prayers and such. It was a scary moment, up there with Marquis going down last season.
 
[quote name='Prepster']Welcome to the Deng Bang.[/QUOTE]

I came for the Rose but I stayed for the Deng Bang. Good job on the bulls tonight. First team to 40 wins. First team to secure its playoff berth. I wish Rose and Rip heal soon, but even without them the bulls keep getting it done.
 
Good games scheduled on ESPN tonight: Heat/Thunder followed by Lakers/Grizzlies. This will be my first chance to see how Ramon Sessions in a game for the Lakers, and it's always good to have Zach Randolph playing. Should be a couple of good, competitive games.
 
Memphis plays that scrappy jungle ball Utah use to play under Sloan. I don't know how they play at that level and not manage to get called for fouls. They'll be a tough out for anyone that has to face them.
 
GUYS! Carmelo put up 28 and 12 and the Knicks won again! He's clearly a top 3 player and the Knicks are a lock to win the championship.

OH! And the Heat lost two games in a row badly! They're falling apart by the minute and it's time for Riley to break the team up!


And in real posts, man, did the Lakers stink it up last night. Has Pau ever missed that many consecutive jumpers? Crazy. The Grizz hit every shot they needed to make though, almost absurdly so.
 
Bulls lost to the nuggets also. Of course that means that Denver got the best deal and the bulls are over rated.


I like living in a vacuum.


Anyway a lotnf teams seem to be hitting the wall all of a sudden. Also did anyone see that the spurs put Tim ducan on "DNP too old" That is hilarious.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']Bulls lost to the nuggets also. Of course that means that Denver got the best deal and the bulls are over rated.


I like living in a vacuum.


Anyway a lotnf teams seem to be hitting the wall all of a sudden. Also did anyone see that the spurs put Tim ducan on "DNP too old" That is hilarious.[/QUOTE]

It is getting pretty crazy, random good teams are getting blown out on any given night. Looks like Amare might be out for a while.
 
[quote name='BigSpoonyBard']
GUYS! Carmelo put up 28 and 12 and the Knicks won again! He's clearly a top 3 player and the Knicks are a lock to win the championship. [/quote]
Hilarious, given that Mike Dunleavy had a amazing night (shooting 71.4%, 5 for 8 3pts). And yes, I know you are joking.

[quote name='soulvegence']It is getting pretty crazy, random good teams are getting blown out on any given night.[/quote]
This is the NBA. Until the playoffs occur, it is like exhibition games since most players don't play to their full extent until then. Don't read too much into it.

I am glad Atlanta has a streak going. Hopefully they can continue it. I would rather the Magic face Indiana in the first round than Atlanta.
 
Will someone tell Kevin Love white guys aren't supposed to be making a run for the league lead in scoring and rebounding? Holy crap is he on a tear.
 
Didn't expect K-Love would be in a position to grab some MVP votes, but here we are. Such a beastly performer on an otherwise shit team.
 
[quote name='renique46']Its all Melos fault STAT is injured.[/QUOTE]


I know, yet somehow the Knicks are still winning games when both Lin and STAT are out. Who could possible be winning them games....the only other guy is the most overrated player of all time. Defiantly not a superstar and cant lead a team to victory.

I think they beat a fully healthy Magic team today by like 15 or so points.


:roll::roll: Yeah...and I am the one that was over blowing it huh. I am interested to see bruce flounder around like a dead fish for the rest of the season embarrassingly trying his hardest to give credit to anyone not named Melo...even when those people are not even playing. Somehow Lin won them the game from the bench.
 
[quote name='Timtaron']Yup, when the playoffs begin the intensity ramps up. That Bulls team better step it up or I'm going to get pissed.[/QUOTE]

Um step it up?...they are 41-11 and have had an injury plagued season yet still sport the best record.
 
Knicks are 8-2 in there last 10 games....just point that out to everyone.


Also Love should have got MVP votes last year and got robbed out of being at least in talks. If MVP was based at all on pure talent of the season it should be him. What he is doing as a PF is outstanding and he is clearly the best big man in the game. C or PF. Hell I would take him over most SF too.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']I know, yet somehow the Knicks are still winning games when both Lin and STAT are out. Who could possible be winning them games....the only other guy is the most overrated player of all time. Defiantly not a superstar and cant lead a team to victory.[/quote]
You do realize there are more than 3 players to a team. Shumbert (these last two games), Novak, and Chandler have been really solid.

At least, the overrated player showed up for maybe the first time this year.

I think they beat a fully healthy Magic team today by like 15 or so points.
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The Magic are a night and day team. They blow out good teams and they get blown out by bad teams. You have to question the game when Anderson only got 15 minutes

Knicks are 8-2 in there last 10 games....just point that out to everyone.
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Last 11 games...
Knicks 8-3
Bucks 8-3
Who cares... Just give it up. The Knicks aren't winning a championship in the near future.
 
[quote name='Timtaron']Yup, when the playoffs begin the intensity ramps up. That Bulls team better step it up or I'm going to get pissed.[/QUOTE]

I'm still a bit worried about them not really having a scorer besides Rose, although Boozer looks much better this year. Maybe Rip will get fully healthy before the playoffs, but I dunno.
 
[quote name='lordopus99']You do realize there are more than 3 players to a team. Shumbert (these last two games), Novak, and Chandler have been really solid.

At least, the overrated player showed up for maybe the first time this year.


The Magic are a night and day team. They blow out good teams and they get blown out by bad teams. You have to question the game when Anderson only got 15 minutes


Last 11 games...
Knicks 8-3
Bucks 8-3
Who cares... Just give it up. The Knicks aren't winning a championship in the near future.[/QUOTE]


:lol:


Again, its hilarious (and pathetic) how far the key guys here missed what the original point to the Knicks topic was. Too busy busting nuts trying to disprove Melo and now I am told they are not going to the championship. O Rly? Because we all had them slotted has 1st in the east right? Straw man is sure getting beat to hell in this thread.


Thats cool though...Mike Bibby deserves credit for helping the Knicks win these last couple games.



Anyway, the season cant end soon enough, tired of the regular season, really want to see what teams emerge in the post.
 
Somehow, someway the 13-37 Hornets aren't mathematically eliminated from playoff contention yet.
 
There are some god awful teams this year....there are every year but this season is brutal. This is where I wish the NBA had something like my favorite sport soccer in terms of a regulation. If they build up the NBADL is some way they can have the 2 best teams from that league replace the two worst teams in the NBA each year.

If the fear of being demoted you cant have the fucking Raptor or Bobcats who are just wasting everyones time and gives the NBADL a actual purpose.

I love that about soccer...if you suck you will basically keep getting demoted until you are a part-time club.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']There are some god awful teams this year....there are every year but this season is brutal. This is where I wish the NBA had something like my favorite sport soccer in terms of a regulation. If they build up the NBADL is some way they can have the 2 best teams from that league replace the two worst teams in the NBA each year.

If the fear of being demoted you cant have the fucking Raptor or Bobcats who are just wasting everyones time and gives the NBADL a actual purpose.

I love that about soccer...if you suck you will basically keep getting demoted until you are a part-time club.[/QUOTE]

Didn't know they did that for soccer, pretty interesting. They should do that for every major sport.
 
Yeah its fantastic...its a a great motivator and it gives shitty teams something to cheer for other than just winning the championship...the appeal seeing the Bobcats in the NBADL is more interesting than watching them cave every night.
 
[quote name='lordopus99']The Magic are a night and day team. They blow out good teams and they get blown out by bad teams. You have to question the game when Anderson only got 15 minutes.[/QUOTE]

Indeed. The Magic have had some brutal loses to some really bad teams, like Detroit, New Orleans, and Charlotte. If they are not hitting from long range, they don't seem to have a way to compensate. There was a stretch in the second quarter...the point when the Knicks blew the game open...that they must have missed like 10 jumpers in a row.
 
The potential of having to say "NBA World Champion Sioux Falls Skyforce" amuses me for some reason.

The only drawback is that you'd have to convince entitled unionized millionaire players and entitled billionaire owners to accept barnstorming in North Dakota and Iowa for at least a year instead of a top 3 draft pick as a reward for sucking ass.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']There are some god awful teams this year....there are every year but this season is brutal. This is where I wish the NBA had something like my favorite sport soccer in terms of a regulation. If they build up the NBADL is some way they can have the 2 best teams from that league replace the two worst teams in the NBA each year.

If the fear of being demoted you cant have the fucking Raptor or Bobcats who are just wasting everyones time and gives the NBADL a actual purpose.

I love that about soccer...if you suck you will basically keep getting demoted until you are a part-time club.[/QUOTE]

I think it's become painfully obvious that the NBA over-expanded from 1988-1995. There simply isn't enough high-end talent to support the number of teams currently in existence. I'd like to see the league scale back the number of teams, turning the cut teams into D-League teams to the point where there is a 1-1 relationship between NBA teams and their development affiliates. This would allow the D-league to operate as a true minor league system where teams could send players down for rehab or development and call them up as needed. It would also strengthen the depth of the talent pool in the D-league and the NBA at the same time (i.e., the best players are playing on NBA teams while players who were formerly on NBA teams but not top tier players will be playing in the D-league).

Yeah, I know, owners and players would never go for it, but I can dream, can't I?
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']There are some god awful teams this year....there are every year but this season is brutal. This is where I wish the NBA had something like my favorite sport soccer in terms of a regulation. If they build up the NBADL is some way they can have the 2 best teams from that league replace the two worst teams in the NBA each year.

If the fear of being demoted you cant have the fucking Raptor or Bobcats who are just wasting everyones time and gives the NBADL a actual purpose.

I love that about soccer...if you suck you will basically keep getting demoted until you are a part-time club.[/QUOTE]
If the NBA didn't have the players running the league, maybe just maybe that idea would work. But since they have the power it will never work. Their million dollar contracts (that are guaranteed) wouldn't care who/where they were playing in front of. The only way to change things is to restructure the contracts like the NFL. If players knew money wasn't guaranteed, they might play harder each night vs just when it is contract years.

The Bobcats (my local market) are rebuilding. They made the playoffs and new owner Jordan trashed that team (making them look like idiots). Tyson Chandler traded for losers. Gerald Wallace for draft picks... what a joke. They had problems selling season tickets buy 2 get 2 this year. Ticket prices are really great to see this team. Saw them for $5/ticket midcourt upper bowl early on this season... that game they gave us a free ticket to another game. I guess they have to do that since it is Kemba (a true rookie) and a bunch of guys who would come off the bench/be cut on other teams. Hopefully, they can add a guy like Anthony Davis in the offseason so at least that team could garner some wins.
 
I don't think I've ever seen Andrew Bynum pass out after snagging an offensive rebound. He stubbornly tries to score on his own in these moments, even when it's a nearly impossible situation for him to score from. Sometimes it works, but it also leads to turnovers and bad shots.
 
Can't believe how good the bulls are to even manage to still have the best record without their best player for over 17 games, and they do this with good d, unlike okc that gets spoonfed every bs call they can get to even get their overrated record. Westbrook still just doesn't get it, too busy complaining in the back court that refs don't give him the calls 100% of the time so it leads to fast break dunks also trying to somehow prove hes better than rose. Would not be surprised if they got beat again without reaching the finals.
 
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[quote name='BigSpoonyBard']I don't think I've ever seen Andrew Bynum pass out after snagging an offensive rebound. He stubbornly tries to score on his own in these moments, even when it's a nearly impossible situation for him to score from. Sometimes it works, but it also leads to turnovers and bad shots.[/QUOTE]

Speaking of Bynum, when did he decide to try to be an outside threat? Granted he's only 4 had attempts this season and made one, but that makes 8 career attempts. The one that got him benched was Barkley golf swing ugly.
 
"Who are probably the much better team".

Their record wouldn't say that. Just like the Lakers record wouldn't say they're the best team in the league.

Until the postseason, you are what your record is. Can't play down to a team that's got 8 more wins than you.
 
well when you do what your supposed to do in the first half by utilizing your big men in the paint and actually have a decent rotation then throw all of that out of the window the 2nd half and wonder why their losing its hard to say they weren't playing down to their opponent period.
 
Just like they did in LA a couple years ago when Payton, Malone...(someone else I cant remember)

It happens, vets who are about to retire dont want to slog through a rebuilding team.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']Just like they did in LA a couple years ago when Payton, Malone...(someone else I cant remember)

It happens, vets who are about to retire dont want to slog through a rebuilding team.[/QUOTE]

yup thats true, I hope Nash doesn't try to stick it out with Phoenix, nobody would be mad if he left Phoenix to go to a contender.

Was it Horace Grant? i dont remember either

I also forgot about Boston. The Big 3 most likely is finished, but i don't think KG and Allen are done so i wonder who could use either and would they even start or would they be comfortable off the bench
 
[quote name='renique46']yup thats true, I hope Nash doesn't try to stick it out with Phoenix, nobody would be mad if he left Phoenix to go to a contender.

Was it Horace Grant? i dont remember either

I also forgot about Boston. The Big 3 most likely is finished, but i don't think KG and Allen are done so i wonder who could use either and would they even start or would they be comfortable off the bench[/QUOTE]

Wow, I forgot about Horace Grant on that team. I think KG is pretty close to done, Allen, he could still thrive in the right system. Would love to see him playing for the Bulls next year.
 
Did Kg get an extension or is this still his monster minnesota contract?, if so then thats a whole lot of money coming off the books for Boston.
 
[quote name='renique46']Did Kg get an extension or is this still his monster minnesota contract?, if so then thats a whole lot of money coming off the books for Boston.[/QUOTE]

Signed an extension after the initial trade. Final year. $21.5M I think. Boston should have $35M cap space next season.

If KG continues to play, I think he'll resign with the C's for a lot less money. Ray Allen will probably go elsewhere. The Heat will want him, just like the Bulls,but the Heat won't have enough money, not that Allen needs it. Don't know about the Bulls, but he would definitely fit in the offense. Thibs wouldn't like how far his defense has slid though. I'd like to see Allen resign too, but I doubt that'll happen. Allen could be a fantastic sixth man for any team.
 
Orlando Tragic strikes again wtf is with this team blowing leads to inferior teams and acting like they just dont give a shit. I called that awful last couple of sequences. Shoot for 3! even though only a 2 can tie.... Shit just makes Howards decision that much easier next year if they continue to play like this.
 
[quote name='advanced']Signed an extension after the initial trade. Final year. $21.5M I think. Boston should have $35M cap space next season.

If KG continues to play, I think he'll resign with the C's for a lot less money. Ray Allen will probably go elsewhere. The Heat will want him, just like the Bulls,but the Heat won't have enough money, not that Allen needs it. Don't know about the Bulls, but he would definitely fit in the offense. Thibs wouldn't like how far his defense has slid though. I'd like to see Allen resign too, but I doubt that'll happen. Allen could be a fantastic sixth man for any team.[/QUOTE]

I'd love Ray Allen on the Bulls for next year. Thibs also has experience with Allen being on Doc Rivers coaching staff in Boston. I could definitely see him starting at SG because I doubt Rip resigns because the dude can't stay healthy which is unfortunate.
 
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