*Official* NBA PLAYOFFS 2007 discussion

^ I think it was inevitable once it went into OT.

Momentum made a massive MASSIVE turn in Utah's favor.

It going into OT at all was a total collapse by GS, they were drained, it was a shot to the gut.
 
Wooooo, how I'd love to vent about this game.

Those free throws at the end pretty much killed them, I could not believe they missed those. Ellis REALLY needs to contribute when he's out there, for what I've seen, most improved my ass....

Their WORST free throw shooter made BOTH, yet the other free throws went 0-2, 1-1, 1-1.

Even with that, they should have closed the game. They knew they needed a 3 pt shot, they knew it was going to be Okur, yet they let him get the shot off.
They knew Utah was going for a quick 2 to tie it, they knew they'd drive in and push them around, yet they allowed an open 2 pt shot inside.

Again there was some poor dribbling by the Warriors, and they REALLY need to figure out a way to grab rebounds. That is killing them, and even though they are the shorter team, they NEED to fight for those rebounds. Half the time they just take shot, leave one guy under the hoop to fend for himself, and just take off to the other side of the court.

IMHO, this should have been a sweep for the Warriors, due to the number of chances they had to put away these 2 games.

It's going to be interesting as to how they play in Oakland, and I hope they regain that momentum and confidence, and have all in their 8-player rotation contribute well just as the Jazz line-up has helped their team.

I'm really frustrated over the loss, but it's over and done with. I can see this going six games for the Warriors. If it goes into game 7, I'll be holding my breath
 
^

I still can't believe you can be for the warriors.. even now..

when baron davis is needed in the closing minutes of the game he choked..

there were some pretty shady calls (like where were those first two fouls on D Will?) and the one in OT with AK he didn't touch him..

there were plenty of Over the back calls that weren't called.. and look at when Dee Brown got hurt.. baron davis plowed through him..

I can't even believe you can still say the warriors can win this?.. you know you can hate the jazz all you want.. i don't really care.. but when you can't even see what is happening on the court.. the jazz closing out the game when they need it.. Derek Fisher coming in the second half making huge plays.. I mean you don't mention that? I thought the game was over when Baron Davis went to the free throw line and hits the first one.. no way would he miss after making the first..

I mean.. considering we were without a "point" guard for most of the game and the Jazz still won.. yet you won't mention that.. no way..

anyways.. go jazz. this ends in 5
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']It matters not, Phoenix or San Antonio will demolish the winner of this series in 4 games... or less.[/QUOTE]

I'd love to believe that, but Utah is a team that matches up with the Suns very well. We did not beat them until our last meeting of the season, when we throttled them on their own home floor. Granted, one of the games Nash was missing, and Barbosa missed some layups at the end of two of the games that made a huge difference. His confidence has grown tremendously since he hit his game winning three in Chicago early January.

Spurs would probably crush either. If it's the Suns, I'd take them in 5 over the W's and in 6 over Utah.

Also, can someone explain how Chicago received 23 votes in the poll? Did you all not see it coming when they choked away the number 2 seed on the last night of the season in Jersey?
 
Can you imagine being asked sometime during the season which playoff series would you rather watch, Bulls/Pistons or Warriors/Jazz? The Bulls and Pistons games were over in the first half! The Warriors and Jazz are really showing how basketball used to be played and is meant to be played. I'm loving the hundred point games from both teams! I hope they can keep it up.
 
[quote name='urzishra14']^

I still can't believe you can be for the warriors.. even now..

when baron davis is needed in the closing minutes of the game he choked..

there were some pretty shady calls (like where were those first two fouls on D Will?) and the one in OT with AK he didn't touch him..

there were plenty of Over the back calls that weren't called.. and look at when Dee Brown got hurt.. baron davis plowed through him..

I can't even believe you can still say the warriors can win this?.. you know you can hate the jazz all you want.. i don't really care.. but when you can't even see what is happening on the court.. the jazz closing out the game when they need it.. Derek Fisher coming in the second half making huge plays.. I mean you don't mention that? I thought the game was over when Baron Davis went to the free throw line and hits the first one.. no way would he miss after making the first..

I mean.. considering we were without a "point" guard for most of the game and the Jazz still won.. yet you won't mention that.. no way..

anyways.. go jazz. this ends in 5[/quote]


Wow, I'm saying all the things the Warriors did wrong and your trying to nail me for mentioning all those other points?

Get outta here. We both know the Warriors had the chance to put both games away, and despite both losses I still root for them because I know they have heart.
Sometimes that can dominate even when outmatched, plus they'll be going back to Golden State for the next two games. If these two games were close at Utah, imagine the Jazz trying to play in the Warriors stadium, which has the best crowd in the playoffs.

There's no way the team would let those close games bring them down that much, although it obviously does hurt when you know you had the game in your hands and let it slip by twice.

The Warriors have been suffering from a bunch of stupid fouls throughout the playoffs, so it's about time they get something going their way.

I appologize if I still am going for a team that only lost two games, because at 0-2, anything is still possible, especially if they're going back home.
I have to admit though, if they lose the next game, I'd have to consider it over :/, although I'd still be pulling for them ;O
 
^ You're right about that; 0-2 is still anyone's series when we're looking at two games that were absolutely down to the WIRE. Both games could have gone either way. Statistically, obviously 0-2 means Utah has a much greater chance of winning the series, but watching the games themselves, it's clear that this series is far from over. As you said however, if GS loses at home, I imagine their spirit will officially have been broken and I can't see them picking up more than one game after that, because when their spirit gets broken, they start making stupid mistakes, losing their cool in games, and feeding into the other team.

Hopefully this series stays competitive...I'd love to see them win both games at GS.
 
Golden State MUST win both games back home, or this thing is done in 5.

I think the momentum that team was riding has been wiped away though, especially after handing away game 2, much like they did game 5 against Dallas.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']Golden State MUST win both games back home, or this thing is done in 5.

I think the momentum that team was riding has been wiped away though, especially after handing away game 2, much like they did game 5 against Dallas.[/quote]

I think they need to bust out Barkley's picture again :lol:

That'll get them going ;O
 
I appologize for my remarks yesterday.. i had my "OMG THE JAZZ WON" blinders on..

the jazz came back on houston from 0-2 last series and literally slaughtered the rockets in the games in Utah after having close close games in the two previous games in houston..

but..

considering how guard friendly the GS offense is we played game 1 and 2 pretty much without Derek Fisher and in game 2 Deron was in foul trouble (even though i thought it was pretty questionable on the first one) the second one was a good call.. there were some bad calls either way.. but how i look at it is a lot of people say "oh Utah is boring to watch" and they really aren't boring.. we don't throw up a bunch of threes, but Utah can run with them if they want. just the focus of the offense is screen screen pass pass layup.. or a high percentage shot.. Utah is also a young team.. I mean outside of AK, Harp, collins (who probably won't play this series), and Fish.. the majority of the Team has only been in the league 5 or less. .(i believe its boozers 5th year and the 1st with Utah where he really played to the contract they pay him) AK and Booz staying healthy has been the keys to our success this year..

I'm sorry for my remarks.. I reread your post.. and honestly I thought when BD went to the freethrow line it was over.. no way he'd miss in the clutch.. and utah is going to have a hard time winning in Oracle.. but if we can keep the game close like in the first 2 games we have a shot at winning..
 
[quote name='urzishra14']I appologize for my remarks yesterday.. i had my "OMG THE JAZZ WON" blinders on..

the jazz came back on houston from 0-2 last series and literally slaughtered the rockets in the games in Utah after having close close games in the two previous games in houston..

but..

considering how guard friendly the GS offense is we played game 1 and 2 pretty much without Derek Fisher and in game 2 Deron was in foul trouble (even though i thought it was pretty questionable on the first one) the second one was a good call.. there were some bad calls either way.. but how i look at it is a lot of people say "oh Utah is boring to watch" and they really aren't boring.. we don't throw up a bunch of threes, but Utah can run with them if they want. just the focus of the offense is screen screen pass pass layup.. or a high percentage shot.. Utah is also a young team.. I mean outside of AK, Harp, collins (who probably won't play this series), and Fish.. the majority of the Team has only been in the league 5 or less. .(i believe its boozers 5th year and the 1st with Utah where he really played to the contract they pay him) AK and Booz staying healthy has been the keys to our success this year..

I'm sorry for my remarks.. I reread your post.. and honestly I thought when BD went to the freethrow line it was over.. no way he'd miss in the clutch.. and utah is going to have a hard time winning in Oracle.. but if we can keep the game close like in the first 2 games we have a shot at winning..[/quote]
Nah it's chill

I see Utah now as a team that can conform to another teams style of play, but to a limit.

I gotta say, I see a lot of similarities between the Suns and Warriors style of play, BUT, I did see highlights of the Suns-Spurs game and they are a lot more refined in executing a fast paced game, the warriors are more of a street ball team, I think, and they're going to have to get that together if they want to move further on in the playoffs.

I think the Suns are going to wrap the series up in 6 games, perhaps 5 with the way they punked the Spurs.

I gotta say this, the Warriors should take notes from the Suns' last game, because they demonstrated how to go around big guys, and not just straight at them. I can see the players baiting the defense to the outside while richardson/jackson/davis rush in, grab a pass, and throw down on the hoop; Drive in and throw it back out for an open three (they did some of this last game-a nice assist by BD); split the defenders and have their tallest guy run through and throw it down, etc..

*sigh*...wishful thinking...I hope not
 
[quote name='Inf^Shini']
I think the Suns are going to wrap the series up in 6 games, perhaps 5 with the way they punked the Spurs.[/quote]

I doubt that, but I do think whoever wins the series will win in 7. It's 1-1 and going back to SA, I'm going to say they'll spilt he next 2 because it all really matters on how well Shawn Marion plays defensively.
 
:whistle2:(

My newly-beloved DEEEEEEEEEETRIOT PISTONS are letting me down. Bastards. I don't ask for much...just a sweep of the Bulls, then I'll never ask anything else of that franchise. That's all I ask...and they're showing signs that it might not happen. But I won't speak too soon, there's an entire half yet to be played in this game!

Also worth noting: I have a minor bet with a friend that the Bulls will be swept, so yeah, that too. C'mon Pistons.
 
[quote name='Inf^Shini']
I think the Suns are going to wrap the series up in 6 games, perhaps 5 with the way they punked the Spurs.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOL

the suns are my favorite team that made the plaoffs (actual favorite is bobcats, but they're not playoff-bound yet)

but even I know that the spurs have too much experience and talent and are too good of a team to not make it a 7 game series or even win the whole thing

i love the suns and they are a fantastic team and coach d'antoni is one of my favorite coaches, but seriously..the spurs are not ones to bow down and make the same mistake against the same team twice...

i think they will go back to San An and win one...then maybe MAYBE the suns will steal one in SA...then we'll see from there

and yea i agree that the warriors are a poor man's phx suns, but more like parking lot basketball...more scrappy and i like that

i never watched the warriors much the in the regular season, but now in the playoffs i get to see them in action and i like what i see...they just need some work at the free throw line and need to secure defensive rebounds
 
^ Speaking of the Bobkittens (;), feel free to toss a 'NY Dicks' or 'NY Bricks' my way, haha), what is the latest word on Gerald Wallace? I assume they'll want to re-sign him, but he's going to demand a decent chunk of change more than what he'd be owed if he stuck to his current deal without opting out. Is there a real chance of him bolting, ya think? Also, can you imagine that team if they get lucky with the pingpong balls on May 22...I shudder to think about that frontline with one of the Top 2 bigs in this draft in Charlotte.
 
Wow, the Pistons apparently left their offense in Detroit. 40 points halfway through the third quarter? That's just ridiculous.

But they're still in it!
 
...and that's a team of winners right there, keeping their composure and fighting back.

Not as thrilling as those lightning-fast 20+ point Warrior comebacks, haha, but I salute them still!
 
[quote name='Inf^Shini']I think the Suns are going to wrap the series up in 6 games, perhaps 5 with the way they punked the Spurs.
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More like the refs winning that game for the Suns in the 2nd quarter. I saw quite a few fouls that weren't called against the Suns. The one I remember mostly was where Horry was poked in the eye and the Suns got a steal from that and a basket. You're mistaken if you think the Spurs will go down that easily after 1 game on the road.


About AK47 being fouled out, that was stupid. The guy TRIPS him so he's stumbling backwards and the ref calls a foul on him? The NBA needs instant replays or challenges like the NFL. ALOT of stupid calls and no calls by the refs. Sure they're not perfect, thats why there should be instant replays. Instant replay would also assure that the refs cannot favor a team like they did with the Heat's championship.
 
What the fuck, they're winning now? I was mostly joking when I said they were still in it. :D Time to turn on the TV.

I guess we're going for lowest point total in a playoff game with this one?
 
^ Problem with instant replays as you mention them though is that they probably would not do any good. Calls in the NBA are not as cut and dry as they are in the NFL - basketball is a much MUCH more subjective sport to call; not every bit of contact is a foul, for instance.

Refs should have that discretion, because it allows the players to play without worrying about arguing being cheated or anything like that, without slowing down the pace of a game to a crawl as players argue calls, etc. If the ref screws up, it's part of the game...it's the only way to do it, really. Arguing that a guy getting a tiny bit of contact on the defender's head shouldn't be a foul would be futile because, at the end of the day, SOMEONE has to decide whether it was worth the foul call or not...why not just let the refs to it without being questioned.

The only time instant replays are really needed in the NBA, IMHO, is where they're already in use (for last second shots, which are checked regardless of the presence of doubt about the call).
 
[quote name='Oops! I did it again.']^ Speaking of the Bobkittens (;), feel free to toss a 'NY Dicks' or 'NY Bricks' my way, haha), what is the latest word on Gerald Wallace? I assume they'll want to re-sign him, but he's going to demand a decent chunk of change more than what he'd be owed if he stuck to his current deal without opting out. Is there a real chance of him bolting, ya think? Also, can you imagine that team if they get lucky with the pingpong balls on May 22...I shudder to think about that frontline with one of the Top 2 bigs in this draft in Charlotte.[/quote]

GW is my favorite player in the NBA and i'd be saddened if he left; he brings so much energy and hustle to the game...i'm sure the bobcats will do whatever it takes to bring him back

and yes, although unlikely, i hope that the bobcats can land the 1 or 2 pick...if not, then i'm hoping we draft Hibbert...then we can move okafor to the 4 spot and have him be even more productive than his is now

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This end of the game brick sequence for Chicago is the most frantic piece of garbage I've seen...

Is anyone else wondering why David Blaine is doing NBA playoff commercials?
 
^ Well Miami blew total ass in the first round, so Chicago didn't need much to get past 'em.

Honestly, I think this win was less about Chicago's ineptitude and more about Detroit just being an awesome awesome team, the only legit title contender in the East.
 
[quote name='Oops! I did it again.']^ Well Miami blew total ass in the first round, so Chicago didn't need much to get past 'em.

Honestly, I think this win was less about Chicago's ineptitude and more about Detroit just being an awesome awesome team, the only legit title contender in the East.[/quote]
Yep, Detroit is a championship team and Playoff hardened. Also, talk about coincidence. I was just watching Britney in that video on YouTube just a moment ago. My God she looked good in that video. :)
 
[quote name='Kendro']Yep, Detroit is a championship team and Playoff hardened. Also, talk about coincidence. I was just watching Britney in that video on YouTube just a moment ago. My God she looked good in that video. :)[/quote]

One of my favorites. :) Another thing I love about the video is that there are some funny shots of her behind the scenes of it on her Greatest Hits: My Prerogative DVD. But yeah, a definite winner...that song is one of the biggest reasons I'm thrilled that she's reportedly working with Max Martin (the superstar writer/producer of most of her early hits) on her upcoming album. I'll be camping out the night before to wait for that one, you best believe.

Anyway, Britney aside, like you said, the bottom line is that Chicago came into this at a massive MASSIVE disadvantage. As much as I hate Chicago and love to playfully rub it in that they're on the verge of being swept away like yesterday's donut crumbs, there's honestly no shame whatsoever in being eliminated by Detroit. There's a bit of shame in totally collapsing like they did tonight, but considering how young most of their core is, being up by 20 against Detroit in the first place is a great stepping stone for future playoff adventures.

Gah, enough praising Chicago for me, never again. F 'em! :)
 
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[quote name='Kendro']Yep, Detroit is a championship team and Playoff hardened. Also, talk about coincidence. I was just watching Britney in that video on YouTube just a moment ago. My God she looked good in that video. :)[/quote]
Like your ladies bald, huh? ;)
 
Wow...

[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc4yz__akIU[/MEDIA]

I was wonderig why Amare looked awkward on that dunk. Bowen should get suspended a game for that crap.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']Chicago might be the worst play-off team ever to make it to the second round. How the hell did this team beat Miami, let alone sweep them?

:rofl:[/QUOTE]

Wow, you're an idiot. Congrats on that.
 
[quote name='buttasuperb']Wow, you're an idiot. Congrats on that.[/quote]

Aww did I hurt the little baby's feelings over her team sucking so much, you want your bottle little baby? Who's a cute little baby, who's a cute little baby girl? :lol:
 
[quote name='dallow']Yeah, Bowen's always been known as a dirty player.[/quote]

Sports Article --> Stoudemire: Bowen, Ginobili `dirty' players

"He kicked me purposely in the back of my Achilles'. I almost came down wrong and he almost caused an injury," Stoudemire said after Thursday's practice. "He's known for doing that. I just hope the NBA and the commissioner take a look at that because it's definitely a dirty play."

The Suns' center, selected to the all-NBA first team Thursday, didn't stop there.


"I think the Spurs are a dirty team," he said. "I mean, (Manu) Ginobili during the regular season kneed me in the crotch on purpose. I just hope the league takes a look at it and cleans the game up a little bit."
Click to expand...
 
^ Normally, a guy saying the things Amare is saying would be looked at as whining unnecessarily, but Amare is COMPLETELY RIGHT on this one. Bruce Bowen (and to a lesser extent, Manu) plays like a total d-bag. No two ways about it. The problem here? NOBODY TRIES TO STOP HIM! Not the league offices, they let him do these cheap tactics to try to injure players recklessly time and time again. Not the players, I cannot recall a time where a player has actively enforced on Bruce that his cheap moves do NOT fly on a NBA court. Back in the day, if you had a guy taking these types of cheap shots to injure people, his ass would be on the floor in a heartbeat. Today, people groan and wait 'til they get to the locker room to vent. So naturally, Bruce Bowen has no reason to stop these tactics...they give him an upper-hand, and nobody punishes him, so why would he stop.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']Aww did I hurt the little baby's feelings over her team sucking so much, you want your bottle little baby? Who's a cute little baby, who's a cute little baby girl? :lol:[/QUOTE]

haha, way to further prove my point.

I'm just sitting here laughing at your stupidity.

Remember the 91 ECF? (You probably don't seeing as you're most likely 14 or so) That's the definition of little baby.
 
[quote name='buttasuperb']haha, way to further prove my point.

I'm just sitting here laughing at your stupidity.

Remember the 91 ECF? (You probably don't seeing as you're most likely 14 or so) That's the definition of little baby.[/QUOTE]
Keep going, you've already hit step 1 (call someone a name without backing it up with any reason other than an empty "you are proving my point") and step 2 (bring up something from over a decade ago that is irrelevant - especially when the two years before that the results were different) on the pissed-off, frustrated fan checklist.

All you've still got to do now is say "well they would have won if it were not for the refs" or "they're still the winners in my heart." You know you want to.

You're sitting there "laughing at his stupidity?" No, you're not. You're sitting there in a rage typing as fast as your furious little fingers will allow.
 
[quote name='buttasuperb']haha, way to further prove my point.

I'm just sitting here laughing at your stupidity.

Remember the 91 ECF? (You probably don't seeing as you're most likely 14 or so) That's the definition of little baby.[/quote]

Unfortunately I do remember that, that was when the torch was passed from Detroit to Chicago and the Jordan Dynasty began. A few years after my dad got me into watching basketball with him.

What I'm wondering is if you remember the 1990 ECF, Pistons over Bulls; or the 1989 ECF, Pistons over Bulls; or the 1988 second round, Pistons over Bulls... or the 2007 second round, Pistons 3 - Bulls 0. Enjoy game 4, it'll be your last Bulls game until October :lol:
 
[quote name='yukine']Like your ladies bald, huh? ;)[/quote]
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I blame K-Fed for everything. :bomb:

[quote name='GuilewasNK']Wow...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc4yz__akIU

I was wonderig why Amare looked awkward on that dunk. Bowen should get suspended a game for that crap.[/quote]
I caught that on SportsCenter last night and was pretty shocked. I knew Bowen could be a little rough on defense but that was just dirty. The NBA better do something about it. What is more suprising is that Amare isn't the type to speak up and complain about things, he just goes out and plays hard and doesn't argue with calls or flops on plays so I'm more inclined to take his side.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']Unfortunately I do remember that, that was when the torch was passed from Detroit to Chicago and the Jordan Dynasty began. A few years after my dad got me into watching basketball with him.

What I'm wondering is if you remember the 1990 ECF, Pistons over Bulls; or the 1989 ECF, Pistons over Bulls; or the 1988 second round, Pistons over Bulls... or the 2007 second round, Pistons 3 - Bulls 0. Enjoy game 4, it'll be your last Bulls game until October :lol:[/QUOTE]

Yea I remember them all. The 90 series was great. I was thinking about getting that Detroit championship DVD set, just because it includes that series.

None of them nearly as pathetic as Detroit's performance in 91.

Awww, we got swept, lets walk off the court like sissies before the game is over.

It's going to be tough to enjoy game 4, considering how the first 3 games have gone. Horrible performance by the Bulls but far from the worst team to reach the 2nd round.
 
That was a GREAT game last night.....Detroit just looks unstoppable this year. With Dallas out and PHX/SA out also, Detroit should have a good chance for the finals again. I don't see Cleveland doing much after NJ either.
 
[quote name='buttasuperb']Yea I remember them all. The 90 series was great. I was thinking about getting that Detroit championship DVD set, just because it includes that series.

None of them nearly as pathetic as Detroit's performance in 91.

Awww, we got swept, lets walk off the court like sissies before the game is over.

It's going to be tough to enjoy game 4, considering how the first 3 games have gone. Horrible performance by the Bulls but far from the worst team to reach the 2nd round.[/quote]

That was pretty shitty. At least Dumars showed some class and stayed on the court. I'd laugh if the Bulls did the same thing after game 4. In fact I think they have to.

I'd like to see an analysis of teams that got swept in the second round of the play-offs along with how badly they got beat on average. With losses by a combined 48 points now.

I can't imagine how mad Chicago fans got watching their team blow a 19 point 3rd quarter lead.

I wonder how Ben Wallace feels about all of this, and if the extra $12-16 million was worth never winning another title, as well as, playing on a young team that he really doesn't fit in with? How much money do you need afterall...
 
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