Official NHL 11 CAG Team - CheapyD All Stars - Hockey Nights Tue @ 10e / Fri @ 8e

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[quote name='azngtlman']I've been playing so much HUT offline that I haven't even tried any other game modes yet, I'll get to joining the league and start playing with all of you. Sounds like the team is having problem with D, so I have no problem volunteering to play D and see how it goes.



I've built up quite a number of NHL players from playing so many tournaments against the AI... do you happen to have any Sharks players? The best guys I've got so far is Alfredsson, Havlat and Langenbrunner. Some of the better D I've got is Tyler Myers, Coburn from the Flyers and Volchenkov... these guys hit like semi-trucks.[/QUOTE]

Don't know if you're interested, but I have the Worcester Sharks logo.
 
I spent yesterday afternoon getting most of the BAP boosts unlocked so my ratings will be higher for hockey night.

A few of them are glitched and didn't unlock. 2 goals in the memorial cup and 200 hits in a season didn't unlock but most others did.
 
[quote name='DarkTower80']I spent yesterday afternoon getting most of the BAP boosts unlocked so my ratings will be higher for hockey night.

A few of them are glitched and didn't unlock. 2 goals in the memorial cup and 200 hits in a season didn't unlock but most others did.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, like I told you on Live, the 200 hits one didn't glitch for me, but the "Earn your Legend plaque in Be A GM" one did. It kinda pisses me off that these things would not unlock even though you met the requirement considering they are things that you can also buy. That just seems dirty. Alan and I talked about this, and he had a good idea.

When you're getting close to unlocking one of these boosts, save your progress. That way, if it glitches, you can load and try again without starting all over. Obviously, it's not going to help anybody after the fact...but it's a good idea if anybody tries to go after these again. I doubt I'll go through 7 seasons of Be A GM again just to get +5 endurance/stick checking...but the bright side is, you can also unlock that boost for getting 150 points with your EASHL team. So, I'll eventually get it. It's just annoying that it should be unlocked already.
 
[quote name='SeanAmI']Kari Lehtonen will get injured and underachieve its what he does.[/QUOTE]

True. But maybe he won't even have to play. Just put the mask down on the ice in front of the net and nobody will be able to score, haha.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Same as last year: pulling the puck behind you and picking the corner over the goalie's shoulder. We've seen it a couple times, but the shot seems to have to be ridiculously accurate. The guy who did it literally hit the corner where the post meets the crossbar, and it bounced in.

The fact that you have to be that accurate + the AI playing better defense kinda negates it being a "glitch" to me (if you can only pull it off 1 out of 30 times...it's not a glitch...just a lucky shot). But we still wanted to test it just to be sure. Glitching the AI d-man is without question still there though. That blew my mind when I saw that again.[/QUOTE]

I've heard that shooting from the hash marks is just a high percentage shot. Think if you're playing goalie and some guy cuts across, do you know if he's going to shoot near or far side? That shot itself is a mix of luck and accuracy if nothing else.

Glitching the AI, someone finds a new way each year anyway. So, anyone coming tonight? I should be on around 8 if everything goes right.
 
[quote name='jza1218']Don't know if you're interested, but I have the Worcester Sharks logo.[/QUOTE]

Probably not, speaking of which, this whole HUT thing is starting to get on my nerves... it seems like every pack I buy now is just mediocre AHL'ers and my "rare" card is a 30 game contract every single time...
 
I have quite a few rare cards. Ranging from Crosby to Brodeur. Every time I buy a pack, seems as If I get a good rare NHL player card. Must just be my luck maybe?
 
I've obtained quite a few NHL'ers like Zach Parize, Cam Ward, Mike Commodore, Derek Roy, Jonathan Quick, Ales Kopitar and some others I'm forgetting.
 
Sorry I left guys, but my God. Unless we play an absolutely horrible team, we lose by 4 or 5 goals. Simply put, we're not good enough to run with 6 on a team. And it's not because Alan isn't good enough in net. But he gets almost no help, and the other team just cuts through our defense like swiss cheese. There's no reason we can't be competitive. Yes, sometimes we run into an elite team, and they're just better than us...but none of those last few teams we played (especially the ones with human goalies) were that good. We made them look good. Maybe I'm just becoming a dick, but whatever, somebody has to do it. But who cares about stupid conversations and haha jokes when we're getting our asses handed to us for 4 hours? That's not fun to me. Somebody schedule a fucking Uno night, and I'll be there making jokes and screwing off. I just don't want to do that in NHL 11.

I want to clarify though that I don't think everybody is just screwing around. But it just sometimes seems like there will be a random conversation about something going on...then the other team scores and it'll be like "Oh look...they scored. So, anyway..." It just gives the impression that you're not really focused on the game.
 
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[quote name='Vulcan2422']Once again, Uno is only four players.[/QUOTE]

Who cares? Are you trying to be a smart ass? Maybe they'll make Girl Talk for XBLA and all the people who like to chit chat and not pay attention to the game can play that.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Sorry I left guys, but my God. Unless we play an absolutely horrible team, we lose by 4 or 5 goals. Simply put, we're not good enough to run with 6 on a team. And it's not because Alan isn't good enough in net. But he gets almost no help, and the other team just cuts through our defense like swiss cheese. There's no reason we can't be competitive. Yes, sometimes we run into an elite team, and they're just better than us...but none of those last few teams we played (especially the ones with human goalies) were that good. We made them look good. Maybe I'm just becoming a dick, but whatever, somebody has to do it. But who cares about stupid conversations and haha jokes when we're getting our asses handed to us for 4 hours? That's not fun to me. Somebody schedule a fucking Uno night, and I'll be there making jokes and screwing off. I just don't want to do that in NHL 11.[/QUOTE]

Well, I just responded to your PM (which was a response to my PM) but I wasn't having fun, either. That's why I kept suggesting that we practice, especially since I hadn't played all week. I thought I did fine for the most part, though I did admit to making a few mistakes. We just weren't playing well as a team.

I'm totally with you on the not playing with 6 thing. It just sucks that we can't have multiple games going on simultaneously. We've done well when it's been combinations of 3 or 4 of us, but it seems that 5-6 often gets us in trouble.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Who cares? Are you trying to be a smart ass? Maybe they'll make Girl Talk for XBLA and all the people who like to chit chat and not pay attention to the game can play that.[/QUOTE]


Yes, Yes I am. This is why I left the team. It's not fun to listen to you whine about losing for four hours straight either you know. Some of us like to chat and hit people and shoot the puck and just play a normal game. Not be so damn competitive all the time. It's a game, and to me it seems as if your taking it way to far. But what ever. What ever floats your boat right?
 
[quote name='Vulcan2422']Yes, Yes I am. This is why I left the team. It's not fun to listen to you whine about losing for four hours straight either you know. Some of us like to chat and hit people and shoot the puck and just play a normal game. Not be so damn competitive all the time. It's a game, and to me it seems as if your taking it way to far. But what ever. What ever floats your boat right?[/QUOTE]

Letting people know why they're getting scored on and say "god dammit!" every 2 minutes is whining? This is why I suggested that the casuals make their own team. I offered a solution and not just shitty comments because I was butthurt. How is it any more fair for the people who actually try to play well during a game to get screwed over by people who only want to screw around?

It's definitely a difference of perspective...but again, that's why I suggested that the casuals make their own team. It's not like I'm being dishonest about it. Some of us played this game religiously for the purpsoe of becoming good at it. If we invested that much time in it, why would we enjoy losing all the time? We've been saying for weeks that we want to play well. If that's something that others aren't worried about, by all means, don't play. There's just way more productive things I could be doing than chit chatting while getting my ass kicked for 4-6 hours.
 
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[quote name='Matt Young']So... which group am I in?[/QUOTE]

That's for each person to decide, Matt. I know you want to play hard and get better, but if you have more fun losing and just chit chatting, well more power to you. At worst, somebody might tell you to get your head in the game, but I think you've been fairly receptive to the criticism (as long as we keep it constructive, of course). Other people just don't want to hear it.

As for what went wrong tonight, a small part of it is that some people's skaters are overmatched, but the biggest factor is that the 5 skaters weren't working together very well. For those that care about playing better hockey, I noticed this several times throughout the evening:

1. Wingers skating all over the defensive zone. I saw wingers, down in the corner digging out pucks, behind our net, occasionally on the other side of the ice, etc. If you care at all about improving, this has to stop. You're not the ones that should be digging out pucks down there, and you need to be defending the point instead.

2. Wingers abandoning the defensive zone early. Yes, it's good to get out quickly on the offensive rush. But if possession of the puck is still being jostled for, you're leaving us shorthanded. We're not winning 7-6 run & gun games with these teams. We won't need to score as many goals if we can give up less.

3. Both defensemen lingering near the net and not pressuring puck carriers when they skate into their zone. Often times, I would find myself as the only man pressuring the puck carrier once he got deep into our zone. If the puck carrier skates down the left boards, into the corner, the LD should be all over him, and the C should be helping out. RD, stay near the net in case the puck gets kicked around the boards or to guard against a pass.

I'm sure there's more that I'm forgetting, but those things stood out to me. Some of them were actually brought up during games, but I don't know if they were acknowledged because of all the chit chat going on.
 
I don't have fun losing. I do enjoy talking, but you, Alan, Brandon, and others talk and still play well. I think I do, too, although I'm not as good as any of you three. I definitely try hard and I think I hold my own more often than not, though I do need and want to get better. I do try to take the advice you guys give, and give out my own when applicable.

My skater is definitely overmatched with less than 25 games played, but teamwork has been the issue more than any one player. I do need to work on covering the puck carrier in the corner, but I'm always worried that, due to my player's lack of speed, turning ability, I'll get beaten and either the right D won't be there, or the goalie will give up an easy goal if it's an AI goaltender.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']but I'm always worried that, due to my player's lack of speed, turning ability, I'll get beaten and either the right D won't be there, or the goalie will give up an easy goal if it's an AI goaltender.[/QUOTE]

Kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy there. If you use bad defensive positioning because you're worried about the RD or G using bad defensive positioning, who's worse off? Trust your teammates. If something is not your fault, it's not your fault. The AI goalies really aren't that bad this year...but we have to help them out.
 
[quote name='jza1218']Don't suppose anyone wants to play?[/QUOTE]

Sorry... I didn't see this till now. I was playing solo Be A Pro.

I switched my player from a center/sniper to an offensive defenseman and I apparently have boosts available. I had equipped the +3 boost slots for my equipment, but resetting my player to an offensive defenseman gave me 900 XP for each attribute section, and my overall is now a 79 rather than a 75. Nice.

Anybody want to play/practice this weekend?
 
[quote name='Magicking610']I would Matt, but it's hard to practice with a team when I've been kicked off it for no reason.[/QUOTE]

For no reason? Are you that dense? You've been on thin ice since your n-word rampage, you got into an argument with both me and Alan (the only people who've ever defended you and not religiously made fun of you) in the past week, trying to tell us our "defensive style" wasn't working, when you, yourself are one of the biggest offenders of poor positioning (the QUESTION Alan asked you was what's so great about man-to-man defense and why would it work better than zone...which you never answered).

And you continued making moronic statements last night such as "let's all gang up on the human player" as though the AI doesn't possess the ability to beat us...which it did, and "hand-eye doesn't matter if you're a sniper". The more you talk, the more you sound like an idiot. Most everybody on the team is just tired of listening to you. And you making statements that you don't care anymore...or that you're just auditioning for any team that might want to recruit you makes us not care to have you on the team. You've had like 18 chances to play right and not be annoying as fuck, and it hasn't worked out. Take it for what it is.
 
The questions are in this post

And I'm going to add to the list:

What the flying fuck is this "three wing lock" you were talking about yesterday when I said the weak-side winger should play behind the net?

You said at the end before you got kicked that you get shit for nothing at all? How about how the game before you got kicked, we were playing a perfectly fine shut out game, and you, for whatever reason, suggested multiple times it would be in out best interest to change our defensive strategy, which again, at the time was shutting out the other team, to a "hey, we should all puck-chase the human guy since the a.i. isn't doing anything" defensive strategy. And who scored the winning goal? And A.I. So magicking, why the hell should we be listening to YOUR suggestions when it took less than 5 minutes for your suggestion to completely backfire?
 
Starting up a new club for member's who just want to play and enjoy the game and shoot the shit while playing. No worries, no yelling, just fun times playing hockey like we use to have in NHL 09.

If your interested, just PM me or hit me up on live.
 
Gary, I'll play with you in regular OTP or whatever game/game type we choose at any given time, but I'm not leaving the club that I've been a part of since NHL 09, and I'm also not getting involved in the conflict between you and Nate. You're both good friends of mine, so I'm staying out of the middle of that. I hope you can understand that.
 
I don't think it's much of a conflict, Matt. I think what he's doing makes sense. There's a definite separation of the people who have played 500+ games of OTP and want to be competitive (and are ok with having their play critiqued), and the people that NHL 11 is just one of the many games they're currently rotating, who just want to play casually and shoot the shit. Really, forcing either group to play with the other is unfair to both. At least this way, people can clearly see what they're signing up for.

If he wants, I'd be fine with adding the "Casual Roster" or whatever he names the club to the OP. To me, it's not even a competitive thing. It's kinda just like one group deciding to try to compete in the Elite league, while the other is fine playing in the Amateur league. There's no right or wrong. Just a difference in goals.
 
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Apparently when I get mad, I get mad. So I do apologize for any harsh feelings or harsh words I have said. I've known ya since 09 Nate, and I feel like I said some stupid things the other night and yes I deleted you off my friends list cause I'm a baby sometimes when I get very mad. But yes, some of us are Amateurs and some of us are Elites. I'm just starting the club up for those that just want to mess around and what not. Hell, Even face the other team sometimes when ever. We had two Clubs in 10, so why not 11?
 
[quote name='Vulcan2422']Apparently when I get mad, I get mad. So I do apologize for any harsh feelings or harsh words I have said. I've known ya since 09 Nate, and I feel like I said some stupid things the other night and yes I deleted you off my friends list cause I'm a baby sometimes when I get very mad. But yes, some of us are Amateurs and some of us are Elites. I'm just starting the club up for those that just want to mess around and what not. Hell, Even face the other team sometimes when ever. We had two Clubs in 10, so why not 11?[/QUOTE]

It's cool, man. I mean, Matt and I talked about it briefly last night, and we knew there was the issue from that one night, but we weren't really sure if there was still a problem. Anything that has ever been said has only been to help the team. I mean, I get that people want to have fun, but I think everybody (yourself included) gets pissed off and feels like quitting when they're losing 5-0 in the 2nd period. So any "you're not doing this right" or "you should have been here" on a play was just to make that happen less frequently. It was never anything personal.

But I get that not everybody is going to be worried about that all the time though. And it's not that we're "elite" and you're "amateurs". I don't want to specifically label the teams as that (although I did joke to Alan about having Varsity and Junior Varsity teams, but I was kidding). But I know at least for me and Alan, we strive to be able to shut those teams down. We've played 500+ games to get to that level...to recognize when they're trying to pull cheap crap on you...and to get in their faces and say "Not today. Get that weak shit out of here!" But it took us a long time to get there too, so it's unfair to expect others to just ratchet it up to that level overnight.

So, seriously, no hard feelings. Anybody who wants to join Gary's team, and not have "coaches" hounding you all night, feel free. We won't be offended and I hope it won't be anything personal. Everybody needs to enjoy this game. It's really one of the best hockey games ever. It would be crazy to own it and not have fun with it. And like I said, Gary, if you want me to add your team info to the OP, I'd be more than happy to, just so there's not 5 NHL threads floating around, and everybody can kinda keep up with "the group"...regardless of which squad they end up on. Totally up to you though.
 
Glad to see that cooler heads are prevailing. I'll be on tonight (I hope, pending how these games turn out) around 230 AM if anyone might be around.
 
Glad to see things are cooling down and people are getting along. I might be able to play tonight at that time. I've been over at the neighbors' place for a cookout/fiesta grande, and I've just come home a couple times to check on the cats. I'm heading back over there now, but the time you mentioned is 3 hours from now. I should be back by then.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']Glad to see things are cooling down and people are getting along. I might be able to play tonight at that time. I've been over at the neighbors' place for a cookout/fiesta grande, and I've just come home a couple times to check on the cats. I'm heading back over there now, but the time you mentioned is 3 hours from now. I should be back by then.[/QUOTE]

Cool, I should be on in about an hour, leaving work in about 5-10 minutes.
 
Yeah, I should be good for a few games then as well.

Well, so much for 2:30. I'm getting kinda tired guys. Think I'm just going to call it a night.
 
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Yeah, I was way off on my estimation. Details on Facebook if anyone cares, but let's just say that Mexican gangstas know how to fuckin' party. Sorry I couldn't make it, but it looks like statnut didn't either going by Nate's post.
 
Yeah I got on at 3, saw no one was on and played a quick OTP game and a Be a GM game and logged off. I'm off tonight and will be looking to play after the Giants game.
 
I have a Madden league game after the Colts/Giants game, but I could play hockey after that (practice or game) if anyone's on. I just can't commit to a specific time. If people are on, I can simply join after you finish the game you're in, or whatever.
 
Some people find their center; their zen; their inner chi. Tonight, we found our herp derp.

It started with Nate, statnut, and I, and then Alan joined us after a few games. Statnut left, and then we played a couple more. We lost more than we won, but we outscored our opposition 19-17. We went 3-3-2, with all our wins coming by 2-3 goals, and each loss being by just 1. 2 or 3 of the losses (pretty sure it was 3) were to Elite League teams, and the 1-0 loss, we dominated but lost due to misfortune.

Funny thing is, I mentioned Alan's "herp derp" references, and he changed his name to Herp Derp. We started singing songs, but replacing the lyrics with "herp derp", and it worked magic for us. We had myself and Alan on D and Nate and statnut as forwards, and it just worked. Tonight was a good night.

Results:

2-1 loss (Elite League team)
3-2 loss (I fucked up on defending 2 goals)
3-1 win
4-3 OT loss (Elite League team)
4-1 win (to be fair, we were playing a team full of herp derpin' retards int his game)
1-0 loss (own goal when the puck was knocked in from midair; not poke check but automatic)
2-0 win
5-4 Triple OT loss (Elite League team)

But the point was, we had fun conversation and still played extremely well. We could have won all those games, had one thing gone differently in each one. In the last game, we were down 4-1 and scored 3 goals in quick succession, the first 2 as our guys (1 was Nate,; not sure if he other was Alan or not) and then I somehow faked out 3 guys in front of me and went five hole for a lucky goal. We then survived a 5 on 3 penalty kill at the beginning of the second overtime and almost won several times.

I just wanted to share that as encouragement for everyone. The more we play together, the better we get, and we don't have to be stone cold serious in our conversation the whole time, so long as we play our positions properly and work together. Lord knows I'm one of the worst offenders when it comes to goofy chit-chat, but we all did it tonight and still played well. I'm disappointed that we didn't go out with a win, but it was a strong night overall.

EDIT: People are going to get really sick of seeing that avatar of mine multiple times per page, but hey, that's half the point of it. Then again, only a few people know about the "Smug Face Matt Young" inside joke of sorts.
 
That 1-0 loss really should have been at worst 1-1. The goal went in off a defenseman's auto animation. We outshot them something ridiculous too I believe, as well as TOA.

Overall though it was a great night, had a blast playing.
 
Yeah, definitely a good night. My opinion on it is, if we can play .500 with games against Elite teams thrown in there, we're doing just fine. And considering that every loss was by no more than one goal, the only thing you can do differently there is win. I don't know why we get matched up with Elite teams so often...if it's just the time's we play, or the number of people we have, or what...but if happens more than I would like. It's hard to dig yourself out of a hole when you're facing top teams once every 2-3 games.

But it's all the more reason that we need to win games against teams we SHOULD beat (games where we get completely robbed notwithstanding). Having two on forward and two on d last night was a great combo. When it was just Matt on D, the AI d-man made some questionable moves...and then when it was just me on forward, the AI wingers couldn't be trusted to not lose the puck every 10 seconds. Having 2 on each line gave us great balance. That was definitely a good night to build off of.
 
And build off it you shall. Look for my full explaination of myself in the last couple weeks to go up tomorrow, but I'll basically sum it up here saying I'm sorry for my behavior, I will improve greatly on my conduct, and I'll try to let you guys make me look like an idiot instead of me doing it myself. Even if I'm not allowed back on the main team, Gary's idea is really appealing to me.
 
Alright, here I go.

Please, please, please, I beg you to explain how Zone D is ineffective.
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Did I say it was ineffective? If I did, I sure as hell don't remember it. I might of said they way our guys were using it were ineffective, but that's it.

And while you're at it, I beg you to explain why Man-to-man is a good defense.
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Man-to-man makes sure that everyone is covered at all times, as long as you watch who you are supposed to cover. Otherwise it's as useless as not even trying.


What, you think the problem is going to go away if you ignore it? And you blatantly say you are going against the solution we are proposing, and have the nerve to say it isn't working?
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Go away by ignoring it? No, we all have to face it head on. There's the problem though, we ALL have to face it the same way. If we have 4 people do one thing but the fifth guy is playing his own way, he's going to be the weak link that breaks the chain almost every time. Also, I never said I was against Zone D(see above).


Then why not GTFO? Like I said earlier, you left the team on your own accord once already. ANd you were kicked off the team shortly after that. We even allowed you to come back despite that, and you still managed to get kicked off the team again.
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Why won't I leave? Because I've been here since I started in the EASHL. No matter what, I've always come back here. I might get some nights when I am pissed and get kicked or leave on my own accord, but that's because I seem to express when I'm pissed more than any of you combined.


So you're admitting to not trying to play a zone d, yet you ask "why do we have problems doing it?"
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And that Friday I was the only one who stuck in my zone. As I said, if you guys think I can't play Zone D, I won't waste 1 second proving you wrong.


a team is really going to want to recruit a winger who would rather go for a hit than score goals. :roll:
Makes sense to me.

Ok, your turn magic.
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No, I play D on 95% of the teams I go on. I just wanted to get comfortable with the hittine engine so that whenever I played D I knew when a hit would work and when a hit wouldn't work. Still havn't mastered it though, but most guys with pro cards don't have enough speed to lay anyone out from what I've seen.

As for the Third Wing Lock? That's when one of the Wings (normally weak side) stays around the low point/high slot area to be a stand-in D in case of a pinch in, thus cutting down on X-on-1s and such. Satisfied? If not, there's more.

I've been acting the way I have lately because I've been going through a lot of stress and nerve problems that have destroyed my patience and get me to blow up at the smallest things. It's been happening for a few weeks now and no one can figure out what's going on. I know it's really no excuse, but I play hockey to relax, and when I get told that I'm not doing good enough time after time when I already have little patience, chances are I'm going to explode after a while.

If anyone has any other questions that I havn't answered, let me know.
 
[quote name='Magicking610']Alright, here I go.



Did I say it was ineffective? If I did, I sure as hell don't remember it. I might of said they way our guys were using it were ineffective, but that's it.[/QUOTE]

What's this then?
[quote name='Magicking610']I still don't understand why we do zone instead of one on one.[/QUOTE]

You said another style of defense would be better, therefore you are implying that Zone is ineffective

Man-to-man makes sure that everyone is covered at all times, as long as you watch who you are supposed to cover. Otherwise it's as useless as not even trying.
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And in Zone D, each passing lane is covered, and the puck carrier is trapped. Accomplishes the same thing as man-to-man. Still doesn't explain why it's better


Go away by ignoring it? No, we all have to face it head on. There's the problem though, we ALL have to face it the same way. If we have 4 people do one thing but the fifth guy is playing his own way, he's going to be the weak link that breaks the chain almost every time. Also, I never said I was against Zone D(see above).
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Are you forgetting that it's been pointed out by others, including YOURSELF, that YOU ARE THE ONE GUY BEING THE WEAK LINK? You never said you were against playing Zone D? Why don't YOU read above to the other post I quoted

Why won't I leave? Because I've been here since I started in the EASHL. No matter what, I've always come back here. I might get some nights when I am pissed and get kicked or leave on my own accord, but that's because I seem to express when I'm pissed more than any of you combined.

And that Friday I was the only one who stuck in my zone. As I said, if you guys think I can't play Zone D, I won't waste 1 second proving you wrong.
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Yeah, that Friday and only that Friday when you already pissed everyone off and got into a pissing match with Nate and I the days before where we called you out on it. And you were the only one? Give me a break.

No, I play D on 95% of the teams I go on. I just wanted to get comfortable with the hittine engine so that whenever I played D I knew when a hit would work and when a hit wouldn't work. Still havn't mastered it though, but most guys with pro cards don't have enough speed to lay anyone out from what I've seen.
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You play D on 95% of the teams you play on? That's hilarious. I'm pretty sure lot's of people here remember you saying "I can't play D so I have to play wing!", especially last year when you were very adamant about not playing D. Sure, you SAY you don't mind playing D, but in actual situations, you don't.

As for the Third Wing Lock? That's when one of the Wings (normally weak side) stays around the low point/high slot area to be a stand-in D in case of a pinch in, thus cutting down on X-on-1s and such. Satisfied? If not, there's more.
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And how does that translate to the Center playing behind the net? In case you don't remember, I said the winger should be behind the net, and you IMMEDIATELY said no, the Center needs to.
I've been acting the way I have lately because I've been going through a lot of stress and nerve problems that have destroyed my patience and get me to blow up at the smallest things. It's been happening for a few weeks now and no one can figure out what's going on. I know it's really no excuse, but I play hockey to relax, and when I get told that I'm not doing good enough time after time when I already have little patience, chances are I'm going to explode after a while.

If anyone has any other questions that I havn't answered, let me know.
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You're right, there is no excuse. Which is why we don't simply let you off the hook when you decide to go off on a racist tirade or make idiotic statements.

The thing is, this has been going on since last year's game (arguing with us about the stupidest things, etc.,), so why do we even want to keep you around?

Let me bring a post from the past back into light:

Okay, I recognize that I was an absolute dick last night. But in my defence, I had a really long week. Not much was going right in real life, and it led to me unwinding too much/the wrong way during hockey. My overall playing and sportsmanship really went down in the last week, I'm not going to ignore that. I'm not saying that it's a good excuse, hell, I'm not even using it as an excuse, just an explanation of why I was a douche. I'll take everything that you guys throw at me for last night.

As for the team issue, honestly, we must of faced some of the worst teams that were on last night, and I'm sorry to all of you for bragging about it. I have a feeling that last night was the last time I was going to play for the team, so I guess this is my plea to give me another chance. If you let me back in Nate, just let me know when I start to become a dick and I'll stop. The main problem I had last night was that I didn't know that I was pissing you guys off that much, so I kept at it, thinking you guys didn't mind.

Again, sorry about last night, and I hope that we can fix this up.
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And did you miss the "I hope that we can fix this up"? As far as I know, I only had 1 problem in the month following that. Now, if you don't believe me, I will play an entire night with my mic off. It just seems like every time something like this happens you guys all watch me nonstop and get me for every little slip up.
 
Wow, I really expected something different out of Magic's "explaination". His post yesterday was somewhat apologetic...but today it was mostly defensive. Didn't see that one coming.

[quote name='Magicking610']And that Friday I was the only one who stuck in my zone. As I said, if you guys think I can't play Zone D, I won't waste 1 second proving you wrong.[/QUOTE]

I don't remember who played on the specific night you're referring to. But I'm sure me and Alan were there...so you surely weren't the "only one" who stuck in your zone. Just the suggestion of that is ridiculous. Sure, when we have a large group together, some might not play their position as well. But responding by getting mad and playing shitty defense yourself doesn't help anything.

If you're that frustrated, finish the game (unless we're losing 7-0 and everybody agrees to quit...although personally, I don't want to see any more games like that), and don't play with those people anymore. We've already addressed the issue of people having different expectations out of the game. Some people just want to have fun and not worry about minute details or strategies. You can't blame them for that...but they also can't expect you to just stop trying. It's a two way street.

[quote name='Magicking610']but I play hockey to relax, and when I get told that I'm not doing good enough time after time when I already have little patience, chances are I'm going to explode after a while.[/QUOTE]

If you ever play with me or Alan again, I can promise you, this will continue to happen. If you play poorly, we'll let you know. It's ironic that you mention a lack of patience, because our patience with poor defensive positioning and general fundamentals has become non-existent. I'm actually glad we've let the lid off on riding people about their play. Why? Because we see IMMEDIATE results on nights when people play properly.

For instance, last night, me, Alan, and statnut played 4 games. We went 4-0, winning by scores of 3-0, 2-1, 2-0, and 4-0 (when the team quit). We were fortunate to get matched up with all amateur teams (but 2 had records over .500...so rank wise, they were "better" than us), but we also beat them like amateur teams. One of the games, we had a 6 minute edge in time on attack and outshot them 25-8. Based on these numbers, I'd say our defense works just fine.

Overall though, I think you have to recognize that you've reached a point where not many people want to play with you anymore. If you were ever allowed back on the team, it would be under the condition of generally keeping your mouth shut, listening when people tell you what you're doing wrong, and not making excuses or being argumentative about why you did something. But knowing you, I don't think it fits your style or personality to abide by that...which makes me think it would be in the best interest of everyone involved if you just found a new team.
 
Again, I live to prove people wrong. It might take a long time to change people's opinions (if they change at all), but it I set my mind to it, I can change. Eh, your right, it might be in everybody's interest for me to leave, but only if I don't change. Just give me one more chance. Besides, as I said, I'll even play with my mic off or on as little as possible until I think people wouldn't mind me.
 
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