PSN has returned. What freebie games are you getting?

[quote name='iwannadie']So, if your connection sucks making it impossible for you to download games that would mean you don't use the psn service. Why should they compensate you for a service that you don't use?[/QUOTE]

I don't use a credit card on their system but by what Sony is saying they just bought me a free year of credit reports.

Its called PR and trying to make a bad thing go away.
 
[quote name='xmbri']We can all sit here and speculate, but that is what it all is- speculation. The video game industry since the beginning has been a guessing game. There has been ups and downs and I think Sony will weather this, but it will definitely be a different company after this incident and the way they approach online. People are going to be fans of Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony, regardless of what is put out. This will eventually blow over after everything has been up and running.

I remember back in the days where the NES had a shortage on cartridges and it cause many places to go without product for a couple of months. I remember when the Nintendo 64 and Wii sold out everywhere and people were getting crazy. That too died down. I remember the whole PS2 debacle with the DRE's and all the shit that went with that. Then the 360's RROD debacle. People still bought the units, the games, and whatever.

So this with people spelling Sony's doom and demise need to take a look at history. Simply put, the PS3 will be back on eventually, this too will pass. Then they will look into the future. I personally have enjoyed playing offline in campaigns and single player modes. It has made me appreciate the game and system. Plus using a media server on it helps ease the pain too.

The whole connectivity thing between systems have never been fully utilized in mass, so the NGP and PS3 idea sounds great in theory, but reeks of the old GBA and Gamecube connectivity thing, which never caught on. Niche gamers might take it up, but not in mass gaming groups.

Look at the 3DS, it is not selling as well as I thought at this point. Reason: people are strapped financially, got big backlogs on games, and quite frankly, there really isn't too many compelling games. I also think people are satisfied with what they have on the DS. The Ipod and Ipad right now are big players in the portable scene and it will be hard for NGP to crack that. I would like to see them do it, but it simply is not realistic . The NGP will hold its own in the long run, but not at the level of DS and PSP.

Go ahead and sell your PS3, swear up and down at them. At the end of the day, we will
still be playing games, and SONY will still be a corporation. Simple as that. In the end, it is the big consumer who will decide what happens, not hardcore gamers like ourselves. The whole idea that they will scrap plans for the future is simply ludicrous. There is too much money to be had in it. You can't say they are not planning something new, even with this happening. If they stopped at big controversies and mishaps, they should have bowed out long ago. But they are still here.

I know I game on the PS3, but to say that morale is hurt by this incident and that backlash has been massive is simply exaggerated. I have many friends that play PS3 that while the online portion is offline, simply doesn't mean they are not playing games or watching movies on the unit or streaming their movies. None of my friends are that shallow to think that this will last for months or years. People have blown this situation way out of proportion. Simply put, if you feel that Sony has let you down and you can't handle the fact they are trying to work on the situation and you can't handle being offline, get rid of the thing and buy something else. There are other choices out there. Good ones.

The whole online thing bugs me too. Everyone beats up on them, but no one has no qualms about putting their personal bullshit on Facebook and pics of their one night rager. You never have privacy online. Once you put yourself out there, that is it. Apparently it is out there for many years. Once you open a window in your browser, get on Live or PSN, play online against strangers, chat online, and buy anything, your privacy goes out the window. It shouldn't be that way, but it is. Stop playing the victim and expect everything to be Sony's fault when it is not only theirs but yours as well. It is a two way street. Be honest with yourself and the way you conduct yourself online and take precautions and you will be fine.[/QUOTE]

^This was truly, and I'm not kidding, a phenomenal post! It's certainly one of the best posts I've read all year on a forum and definitely the best one of the last few weeks. It was very respectful and well thought out. I know some dislike "Walls of text" but I think it's worth people's time to read.

I totally agree, when this is all said and done Sony will get through this. I truly believe it but I guarantee he's right-they will be a vastly different company than the one they are now. I imagine there's going to be some firings/suspensions internally or at the very least some really uncomfortable meetings regarding their IT team that's for sure. Hopefully one piece of the aftermath for the sake of those who play online daily is the best security money can buy. It best be rock solid because they cannot afford another outage on this scale. Another piece of the outcome will hopefully be Sony communicating much more frequently with it's customers and better PR.

I too remember the days of the NES cartridge shortages..kinda eerily similar to what happened about 20 years later with the Wii. But his point was excellent in that all these companies have come back stronger than ever and eventually get back to what they do best-making games.

Yes, the industry surely has been speculation during it's life, since the early days even. Nothing's for sure until the companies come out and say "This is our definite plans" and it's not concrete till they say "This will be the release date of the product". Speculation is interesting and can lead to very good discussion if it's done right. I see people go way overboard though and just get into unrealistic territory. The key is to take what you've read/heard and try to speculate realistically within that and see what happens.

At the end of the day, we're all fans of games and are gamers. There was a time I disliked Genesis quite a bit, and even though I felt the Super NES/Super Famicom was technically superior I eventually did sit down with a Genesis and found some games I did appreciate. Same with Microsoft-wasn't crazy about them but I do give them kudos for Live..they have the right idea there. I am a fan of all 3 companies, they each have their pluses and minuses but in the end they all try to bring their unique perspectives/views to their games and systems.

Again that was an excellent post!
 
[quote name='hiccupleftovers']Great post. Interesting take on this whole debacle and one you'd think more gaming sites/blogs would cover or even speculate on.[/QUOTE]

Thank you very much! It's becoming VERY difficult in a lot of places to have respectful and meaningful discussion. How can you when threads in some spots start out okay, some even great and then it devolves into totally off-topic, unrelated stuff? I try to be very respectful and open to the opinions of others because it's a good mindset to have as a poster.

I truly wish I could write for a blog/site because I've got a lot of views and thoughts on the industry that would probably be very worthwhile to get out there and I have gotten that suggestion before-to get all the stuff written out and try to get it out there. I have a worthwhile opinion on how current reviewing methods can be fixed into something beneficial and useful along with some things people consider to be "ruining" the industry or diminishing the quality of it but those are subjects for a different time and place :)

I am quite impressed at this thread really, it's been mostly constructive/respectful discussion which has gotten very rare. It's great to see and I give everyone who's taken part in the thread a lot of credit for that!
 
[quote name='INMATEofARKHAM']I don't use a credit card on their system but by what Sony is saying they just bought me a free year of credit reports.

Its called PR and trying to make a bad thing go away.[/QUOTE]

Yea but someone complaining they need a physical copy of a game to be compensated for a download service that they don't use makes no sense to me. It sounds more like jealously of other people getting something.

It would be like a grocery store selling out of pepsi so they offer customers a free bottle of coke instead. Then a customer who came to the store wanting to buy just milk sees the free coke but doesn't like coke and wants free milk just because other people are getting something. He has no interest in the original product or the compensating product but feels entitled to something he wants still because other people are getting things free.

Or, better yet it would be like sony offering you a free credit report even though you didn't use a CC but you instead want a free controller.
 
[quote name='iwannadie']Yea but someone complaining they need a physical copy of a game to be compensated for a download service that they don't use makes no sense to me. It sounds more like jealously of other people getting something.[/QUOTE]I didn't mean too nor do I think I imply that I agreed with what he wanted only that he should be compensated, like the rest of us, simply for having an account.

Sony wants this to go away... Looking at your download history, length of service, rather or not you did 'X' or 'Y', etc. is only going to make it linger around longer... (and possibility stir up more controversy... The one thing they want to avoid.)
 
[quote name='INMATEofARKHAM']I didn't mean too nor do I think I imply that I agreed with what he wanted only that he should be compensated, like the rest of us, simply for having an account.

Sony wants this to go away... Looking at your download history, length of service, rather or not you did 'X' or 'Y', etc. is only going to make it linger around longer... (and possibility stir up more controversy... The one thing they want to avoid.)[/QUOTE]

Yea I think we agree, I wasn't meaning that sony should look into your account history and issue compensation based on each person. If you have an account you get what's coming and I'm sure they will do what they can to minimize people using multiple accounts to get a bunch of games like mentioned before. Just the way he was complaining he should have a disc based game because he has a slow connection and doesn't download games made no sense to me.
 
I don't think Sony owes us regular PSN members anything. PSP is a different story though as mine has basically become an mp3 player since this whole debacle.
 
[quote name='Eviltude']I don't think Sony owes us regular PSN members anything. PSP is a different story though as mine has basically become an mp3 player since this whole debacle.[/QUOTE]

Well, not having a service now for 3 weeks is a pretty big deal. I'm buying a PS3 today and I can't even do normal stuff with it. Hopefully Sony compensates people properly....as well as studios who lost millions of dollars.
 
Hopefully going to finish Portal 2 Singleplayer tonight so I can move onto Mortal Kombat. I am still mad at Sony for not securing their servers but then again shit happens. I really don't need any compensation, shit happens, and well the only thing I can't do is co-op portal 2 with my girlfriend (which sucks because she is really looking forward to it). Other than that, don't really mind it.
 
I'm wondering if this event is why Gamestop is offering $100 off any PS3. Perhaps sales are down due to it? If so, then I thank Sony for screwing up. :) Well, I'm not yet decided on buying one. I'd need to justify it to my wife and, well, I'm not sure I can :) Still, it puts adding a PS3 to the collection a little more in reach.
 
[quote name='bh7812']Thank you very much! It's becoming VERY difficult in a lot of places to have respectful and meaningful discussion. How can you when threads in some spots start out okay, some even great and then it devolves into totally off-topic, unrelated stuff? I try to be very respectful and open to the opinions of others because it's a good mindset to have as a poster.

I truly wish I could write for a blog/site because I've got a lot of views and thoughts on the industry that would probably be very worthwhile to get out there and I have gotten that suggestion before-to get all the stuff written out and try to get it out there. I have a worthwhile opinion on how current reviewing methods can be fixed into something beneficial and useful along with some things people consider to be "ruining" the industry or diminishing the quality of it but those are subjects for a different time and place :)

I am quite impressed at this thread really, it's been mostly constructive/respectful discussion which has gotten very rare. It's great to see and I give everyone who's taken part in the thread a lot of credit for that![/QUOTE]

Yeah, CAG tends to be a bit better than most forums :D That's why I'm still here after 7 years and probably 18000 posts.

On a side note, whoever is making the thread titles up is awesome. I especially love today's, because I'm actually quite a bit done across the spectrum, be it reading/DS/single player games.
 
[quote name='crunchewy']I'm wondering if this event is why Gamestop is offering $100 off any PS3. Perhaps sales are down due to it? If so, then I thank Sony for screwing up. :) Well, I'm not yet decided on buying one. I'd need to justify it to my wife and, well, I'm not sure I can :) Still, it puts adding a PS3 to the collection a little more in reach.[/QUOTE]

I've read rumors that they are dropping the price around E3 and the gamestop thing is just like a preemptive deal. Just a rumor though, as with everything reported on Sony in the last month.
 
[quote name='hiccupleftovers']Yeah, CAG tends to be a bit better than most forums :D That's why I'm still here after 7 years and probably 18000 posts.[/QUOTE]

And not a single bit of trade feedback.... way to contribute.
 
I am done for spring semester! I hope this week its back on so I can have something to do when I get back home from job searching full time!
 
[quote name='Organization_XIII']And not a single bit of trade feedback.... way to contribute.[/QUOTE]

what does whether or not someone trades video games on the site have to do with anything?

maybe he always buys games to support the devs and actually keeps them. crazy concept, i know.
 
[quote name='guardian_owl']I just hope this convinces Capcom to NEVER AGAIN put online-only DRM in their downloadable games.[/QUOTE]

Seriously, there are a few other PSN games that are like that. Talk about trying to skirt the 5-activated system ordeal.
 
[quote name='technole']Seriously, there are a few other PSN games that are like that. Talk about trying to skirt the 5-activated system ordeal.[/QUOTE]
And what's wrong with that? This PSN outage is a perfect example for games require PSN connection for offline playing. If all games need PSN, then we can't even game offline now.
 
[quote name='Serpentor']And what's wrong with that? This PSN outage is a perfect example for games require PSN connection for offline playing. If all games need PSN, then we can't even game offline now.[/QUOTE]

I wasn't supporting the DRM. Just stating that Capcom is not only one of those offenders and yes, I don't like it at all.
 
Yeah, situations like these really show how flawed Capcom's PSN DRM is. Unless it's removed in future titles, it will impair their sales on future titles. They also need to put out demos for all of their games when the game comes out.
 
[quote name='8bitArtist']what does whether or not someone trades video games on the site have to do with anything?

maybe he always buys games to support the devs and actually keeps them. crazy concept, i know.[/QUOTE]

I agree, plus every time I tried trading or selling stuff here people just lowball you so much. I could either trade to amazon for 30 or sell here for 10.
 


KingBroly said:
Yeah, situations like these really show how flawed Capcom's PSN DRM is. Unless it's removed in future titles, it will impair their sales on future titles.

Right. I'm not going to buy RE4/RE:CV HD remakes if it has DRM on it.
 
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[quote name='Organization_XIII']And not a single bit of trade feedback.... way to contribute.[/QUOTE]

Says the guy with 4 trade feedback.
 
[quote name='iwannadie']I agree, plus every time I tried trading or selling stuff here people just lowball you so much. I could either trade to amazon for 30 or sell here for 10.[/QUOTE]

The market is determined by the buyer, not the seller. I agree though, unless your game is less than 3 months old or has decent rarity value, you won't get too much value for your games here. Thats why I've bought less at stores since coming to this site :D

Plus, the addition of online passes by various developers doesn't help trade value here either.
 
[quote name='iwannadie']I agree, plus every time I tried trading or selling stuff here people just lowball you so much. I could either trade to amazon for 30 or sell here for 10.[/QUOTE]

Well, in all fairness, the site isn't called cheapassgamer for nothin'...
 
I can't touch the 60 minute game trial I d/l from plus anymore.
I also need PSN back up to find someone to help me with LBP.
Playing multiplayer tetris/pinball is fun too.

Otherwise, I could care less.
 
During this whole ordeal, I've been playing through my backlog, got myself a display case for my collection, got rid of my Aunt from hell, broke ties with a couple friends, gotten back into Anime and actually left the house for more then 20 minutes.
So I guess the outage has done more good then bad to me. :)
 
another vauge update. im glad some of you can get excited over this but you have to wonder what "a few more days" means to sony. i assume most people will decipher it as meaning itll be up this week but i dunno.
 
I'm just waiting for Sony to comment on May 31st: "We do not comment on rumors and speculation" lol

I love you Sony but you really need to work on your communication skills.
 
Sony is full of shit. They said a "few more days" when this whole thing started. I'll believe it when I see PSN back online.
 
You all misunderstood...

I know you all want to know exactly when the services will be restored. At this time, I can’t give you an exact date, as it will likely be at least a few more days. We’re terribly sorry for the inconvenience and appreciate your patience as we work through this process.

I have no illusions, we are going to get an "exact date" in a few more days.
 
[quote name='8bitArtist']what does whether or not someone trades video games on the site have to do with anything?

maybe he always buys games to support the devs and actually keeps them. crazy concept, i know.[/QUOTE]
Yep, that's pretty much what I do, the second one. Rather than buy it at launch, play through it and sell or trade it off, I just wait till it falls to the $10-$30 range (depending how much I anticipate it) play it at my own pace, and then keep it. You never know when you might be in the mood to play it again.
 
[quote name='guardian_owl']Yep, that's pretty much what I do, the second one. Rather than buy it at launch, play through it and sell or trade it off, I just wait till it falls to the $10-$30 range (depending how much I anticipate it) play it at my own pace, and then keep it. You never know when you might be in the mood to play it again.[/QUOTE]

Im kind of the opposite. If i dont see myself playing the game for more than a few weeks, ill just blaze through it and trade it back in while the value is still near its max.

Aside from that, i keep most of my games (Which is why i have a rediculous 360 backlog right now
 
i was at gamestop today pondering on whether or not i should bite on my brink pre order and the manager said and i quote "psn was up last monday and it went right back down. i heard it could be till the end of the year before it gets back to full service".

1. psn never came back up.
2. not even 360 fan boys can legitimately say it wont be up till fucking december.

god i hate the employees at gamestops
 
[quote name='8bitArtist']i was at gamestop today pondering on whether or not i should bite on my brink pre order and the manager said and i quote "psn was up last monday and it went right back down. i heard it could be till the end of the year before it gets back to full service".

1. psn never came back up.
2. not even 360 fan boys can legitimately say it wont be up till fucking december.

god i hate the employees at gamestops[/QUOTE]


WOW. Have no words for how bad the information this guy has, and he's actually spreading it to GS customers.
 
[quote name='8bitArtist']i was at gamestop today pondering on whether or not i should bite on my brink pre order and the manager said and i quote "psn was up last monday and it went right back down. i heard it could be till the end of the year before it gets back to full service".

1. psn never came back up.
2. not even 360 fan boys can legitimately say it wont be up till fucking december.

god i hate the employees at gamestops[/QUOTE]

Lolwat.

Thats almost as bad as the time i went in to buy a PS3 controller, and the guy asked me "What system would you like that for?".

Gamestop really needs to hire people who have a general idea of whats going on
 
[quote name='lurkingsalt']WOW. Have no words for how bad the information this guy has, and he's actually spreading it to GS customers.[/QUOTE]

What do expect from someone who stands behind a counter all day and makes 8 bucks an hour. GS is notorious for hiring people who don't play video games. They actually turn away hardcore gamers for this very reason. Because all they do is spread pro xbox/pro sony propaganda bullshit.
 
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