RPG Recommendations/Discussion

[quote name='LeafPanda']i've seen both KOTOR and Mass Effect and I don't think I will like either.[/quote]

Because of the art style or the battle system? I actually like KOTOR better than FFX and I'm a huge FF and JRPG nut. I didn't like it at first but it grew on me like FFXII. I know it's technically OTT since it's not a PS2 RPG but it's a must play in my book.
 
[quote name='depascal22']Because of the art style or the battle system? I actually like KOTOR better than FFX and I'm a huge FF and JRPG nut. I didn't like it at first but it grew on me like FFXII. I know it's technically OTT since it's not a PS2 RPG but it's a must play in my book.[/quote]
Battle system for Mass Effect and, also again, star wars more or less does not interest me. I might try it though because the game itself looks interesting.
Now Back on topic
Are there any more RPGs anyone wants to recommend?
What are so bad about games by Gust?
 
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This is more OTT but I wonder when the PSP is going to get more Final Fantasy remakes. Crisis Core is good but I'd love to play the PS1 FFs on the go.
 
[quote name='depascal22']This is more OTT but I wonder when the PSP is going to get more Final Fantasy remakes. Crisis Core is good but I'd love to play the PS1 FFs on the go.[/QUOTE]

Thats what the DS is for :)

Heh but true I wouldnt mind seeing FFVII-X on it. Especially given that iv got a modded PSP so they are free games to me.
 
[quote name='LeafPanda']I think the DS could handle the remakes up until the DS remake for 6, then its the PSP's turn.[/quote]

That's a good point but they've already ported I and II to the PSP so you'd think that eventually we'll have all of them on the PSP. I'd really like to see VIII and IX since they were overshadowed by VII and X.
 
[quote name='depascal22']That's a good point but they've already ported I and II to the PSP so you'd think that eventually we'll have all of them on the PSP. I'd really like to see VIII and IX since they were overshadowed by VII and X.[/QUOTE]

I would like to see Square do it in this order and also think it would be a pretty smart bussiness model.

FFV remake - DS
FFVI Remake DS
FFVIII Direct Port with extras to PSP
FFIX Direct Port with extras to PSP
FFVII remake for PS3 or PSP(id preffer PSP for the simple fact of time and I could play it free).
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']I would like to see Square do it in this order and also think it would be a pretty smart bussiness model.

FFV remake - DS
FFVI Remake DS
FFVIII Direct Port with extras to PSP
FFIX Direct Port with extras to PSP
FFVII remake for PS3 or PSP(id preffer PSP for the simple fact of time and I could play it free).[/quote]
That sounds good.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']I would like to see Square do it in this order and also think it would be a pretty smart bussiness model.

FFV remake - DS
FFVI Remake DS
FFVIII Direct Port with extras to PSP
FFIX Direct Port with extras to PSP
FFVII remake for PS3 or PSP(id preffer PSP for the simple fact of time and I could play it free).[/QUOTE]

I'd like this too... but I don't like the S-E, especially on newer remakes. FFIII was one thing as they built the engine from the ground up but FFIV reused the same engine and yet we still have to pay the S-E tax.
 
[quote name='LeafPanda']I wonder what would happen if we actually made one in general discussion?[/QUOTE]

We would all move there and the discussion with it. And I dont see why its lame there arnt touch controls in FFIV, its so much faster to just use the D pad and buttons.
 
[quote name='LeafPanda']Has this become the General RPG discussion thread?[/quote]

So are we done here and moving to the other thread? I actually liked this discussion more than the regular RPG thread.
 
No, this thread can stick to PS2 games.

I mean, I don't care if anyone discusses other consoles but eventually mods would probably lock it or something.
 
[quote name='depascal22']So are we done here and moving to the other thread? I actually liked this discussion more than the regular RPG thread.[/QUOTE]

People can do what they want, but it makes the most sense to move to the other threat to me. The OT is kinda over.
 
Well, it doesn't really matter to me, since I was helped plenty in these 16 pages. Thank you all. Until I come to annoy you guys again. Maybe I should change the title.
 
[quote name='LeafPanda']How's dark cloud 2 and drakengard 2?[/QUOTE]

Drakengard is crap. DC2 is awsome, just short of or just making AAA id say. The story is ok but the gameplay is great. Little repetitive at times and the side quests can be a little unrewarding but over all its an amazing game.
 
There's something we can agree on. Dark Cloud 2 is my favorite Level 5 game (though I've only played the demo of Rogue Galaxy).

The controls are a little loose in DC 2 but the graphics are solid, the gameplay is good as well as varied and the voice acting/dialogue is not bad. It has its share of flaws (convoluted invention system, repetitive dungeons, cliched story) but nothing that detracts from the game too much.

I played some of Drakengard 1 and didn't care for it, it seems like a game for Dynasty Warriors fans.
 
[quote name='LeafPanda']so Drakengard is like dynasty warriors?. What is the gameplay of Dark Cloud 2?[/QUOTE]

Action RPG, kinda like KH but a little more refined. You can back flip away from the enemy, use a few different combo types, you have a gun to use at long range and a giant robot you can climb into to take out giant enemies. There is a second girl you also can use, her sword is similar to the boys main weapon(a wrench)but more effective versus certain enemies. She can use fire magic for a long range weapon and instead of having another robot she can turn into a bunch of different monsters.

The gameplay is a solid A or A+.
 
I honestly hated drakengard. The levels were drawn out and...well I found it boring. I recently beat Tales of Legendia (main game, didn't finish the character quests). It was certainly worth the 20 bones I paid for it. Give it a shot. The story is...very typical for tales games (prejudice omg omg) but the gameplay makes up for it. I take great pleasure in throwing my enemies to the ground with the main character. Check it out.
 
Dark Cloud 2 is a no brainer at $10. The best part is that you don't have to keep your guys hydrated. They cut out the busy work, refined the battle system, and made one of the best RPGs for the PS2. Level 5 does great work and I can't wait for their next game whether it be on the Triple or Red Ring Monster.
 
Alright so next I'll buy:
Persona 3 FES
Tales of the Abyss
Disgaea 1 or 2
Dark CLoud 2
Hey nirvanaguy777 already have Tales of legendia it was only 2$ amazing buy
 
[quote name='LeafPanda']5 looks like a Radiata stories, like a light RPG with a different take on graphics that has mixed reviews.[/QUOTE]

V is a dungeon cralwer light on story. IV i still think is the most overated game in the series and one of the more overated games by fans last gen.
 
I think the original 2 games are overrated... IV only sold 200k in the U.S.

V is actually pretty similar to Persona 3's dungeon crawl, only it has much less story and some awkward mechanics (you'll have to restart the game 1-2 times before you can actually make it through). Despite some busted elements, I recommend giving it a try since it's cheap.
 
[quote name='willardhaven']I think the original 2 games are overrated... IV only sold 200k in the U.S.

V is actually pretty similar to Persona 3's dungeon crawl, only it has much less story and some awkward mechanics (you'll have to restart the game 1-2 times before you can actually make it through). Despite some busted elements, I recommend giving it a try since it's cheap.[/QUOTE]

Id recomend giving them a try too just for how cheap IV and V can be found. I dont get how you can say 1 and 2 are overated though when so few people have played them. 2 I thought was one of the most underrated of its gen.
 
Nintendo Power and Gamepro did huge features on BoF 2, where were you?

The only reason I say they are the "most overrated" is because I think the entire series is underrated.
 
Games can be overrated and undersold. Psychonauts and Beyond Good & Evil are prime examples. Both are great games that get a little too much love. They also didn't go flying off the shelves.

You also forget that RPG can be communal at times. Back in the day, I'd play a RPG with a friend to cut down on costs. We'd go halfs and only play when both of us were around. The only exception was you could grind a couple levels if the other wasn't there. Started this with Dragon Warrior on the NES and the last one was Final Fantasy VIII. It was much better than holing up by myself for two months telling my buddy how great this RPG was and then lending him the game for two months while I went out partying. Now, my wife just stands over my shoulder telling me to use the move that kills everyone. "No, not that one. The good one. You're getting your ass whipped." Who says RPGs can't be multiplayer?
 
[quote name='willardhaven']Nintendo Power and Gamepro did huge features on BoF 2, where were you?

The only reason I say they are the "most overrated" is because I think the entire series is underrated.[/QUOTE]

Yes but how many gamers played it? As you said not many. Most of my friends didnt have it and the few it did just put it down because it wasnt Final Fantasy. BoF2 was great, its story really reached for its time, the characters all had some back story, teh shaman mergers were mind blowing for the time and compltly awsome and the graphics were great.
 
Still I don't think Breath of Fire IV was overrated, nobody played it at first either.

It's more readily available to newcomers so a lot of people probably go for IV first.

It's better than III for sure.

Although it's off topic, I will agree that Psychonauts is highly overrated. The game had poor controls and boring gameplay despite an awesome story and cool graphics.
 
[quote name='willardhaven']Still I don't think Breath of Fire IV was overrated, nobody played it at first either.

It's more readily available to newcomers so a lot of people probably go for IV first.

It's better than III for sure.

Although it's off topic, I will agree that Psychonauts is highly overrated. The game had poor controls and boring gameplay despite an awesome story and cool graphics.[/QUOTE]

IV's story went nowhere 90% of the game then the plot twist at the end was just stupid. The characters also received far too little development. III on the other hand had a cast of characters with alot of back story and was very fleshed out. Its plot was pretty cliche, but it was true to the series and definitely moving...and atleast the plot twist at the end made sense.

Psychonauts SHOULD have been a brilliant game but it came out lack luster. It had alot of publishing and interanl problems. Its too bad, it really could have been amazing.
 
[quote name='depascal22']Games can be overrated and undersold. Psychonauts and Beyond Good & Evil are prime examples. Both are great games that get a little too much love. They also didn't go flying off the shelves. [/quote]

beyond good and evil was a great game.. just way too short.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']IV's story went nowhere 90% of the game then the plot twist at the end was just stupid. The characters also received far too little development. III on the other hand had a cast of characters with alot of back story and was very fleshed out. Its plot was pretty cliche, but it was true to the series and definitely moving...and atleast the plot twist at the end made sense.
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III had story pacing issues as well, I think it's just part of the series.

The difference in our opinions lies with story vs. gameplay. You definitely weigh more on the story, whereas I go for the gameplay.

III had a better story/characters whereas IV had smoother gameplay.
 
[quote name='willardhaven']III had story pacing issues as well, I think it's just part of the series.

The difference in our opinions lies with story vs. gameplay. You definitely weigh more on the story, whereas I go for the gameplay.

III had a better story/characters whereas IV had smoother gameplay.[/QUOTE]

No I view both pretty equally. IV's gameplay was very similar to III just it had combos. Given how similar they are(and before this generation how similar most RPGs gameplay was)its kinda up to the story to decide. And where was III's bad story pacing? It started off slow but picked up after just a short period and stayed pretty solid.
 
I would say the first 8-10 hours of III go no further than IV does most of the game.

IV has tighter controls, faster load times and a quicker/smoother battle system.
 
[quote name='willardhaven']I would say the first 8-10 hours of III go no further than IV does most of the game.

IV has tighter controls, faster load times and a quicker/smoother battle system.[/QUOTE]

Load times might and possibly is true but even if it is it cant be by more then half a second or so. I just replayed III and the load times were not that long into battles. THe battle system stuff makes no sense though since there are not really such a thing as "tight controls in battle" and if your saying out of battle it should pretty much be a non factor since this isnt an action based game or anything.....I mean seriously tahts like complaining about the story in a platformer.

As for the battle system how is it much smoother or quicker? Both of these games are turn based and again outside the combo system they are pretty damn similar to eachother. IV has a slight edge due to a few faster and more complex options, but not enough to give it an edge of the disaster that was its story and charcters.
 
More intuitive menu design, the ability to switch out party members, less time between action.

Everything is just tightened up from III, menu layouts, response time, etc.

Audio/visuals are improved over III as well.

Basically everything is upped but the story is lackluster, III's story wasn't incredible either so I'd go with the game that plays better.

You're out of your mind if you think field controls do not matter. IV has analog support as well as better camera controls (although both are not that great).
 
[quote name='willardhaven']More intuitive menu design, the ability to switch out party members, less time between action.

Everything is just tightened up from III, menu layouts, response time, etc.

Audio/visuals are improved over III as well.

Basically everything is upped but the story is lackluster, III's story wasn't incredible either so I'd go with the game that plays better.

You're out of your mind if you think field controls do not matter. IV has analog support as well as better camera controls (although both are not that great).[/QUOTE]

But its like shining a turd....its still a turd. I mean seriously even with the gameplay updates its still a turn based RPG that plays pretty much the exact same. Switching out part members and combos were big features and as a result id deffintly give BoFIV the edge by a whole point....but its hardly updated to the point of giving it an ovrall all win. Especially when you factor in the game play is like a point off from each other but the story IMO is several point difference.

Yes IV has field controls that are much improved....but again its a pretty none issue. As I said its like Mario having a great story....its a nice feature but its not really what you bought the game for or what would make it awsome. A turn based RPG with a crap story is a crap game unless it was targeting something else(like Wizardry)and a platformer witha good story but bad gameplay would be a bad platformer.
 
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