Super Bowl XLII

[quote name='CocheseUGA']Pats fans have been that way all year, so eat a dick. I'll go back and quote people if you really want to push it.

All you Eli haters owe him an apology. True, there were a few passes in that game where it looked like my 2-year old twins would make an interception, but the man led two 4th quarter TD drives against the self-proclaimed GOAT. He won four straight 'road' games in the playoffs with mistake-free football, and he won 11 straight 'road' games.

You can also say he made the right choice come draft day. If you want to think it's a dick move, then fine. He still has a championship ring, and AJ Smith doesn't. You can hate on them for making goofy expressions, but in truth they are a couple of goofy looking people. Don't hate on them for getting a bunch of endorsement deals, you have to have a little personality (and most importantly, be good) to get those. Sorry that Brady only has the personality to remain silent in a Movado commercial - he's too busy banging supermodels.

The only person I truly feel bad for is Wes Welker. Dude played his ass off all year and the SB and comes up short in the end. Hard to feel sorry for anyone else on the team, and I'm glad Mr. HGH got his ass handed to him all game. Will give him some credit for being class afterwards, but that's about it. Belicock could take a lesson for that (worst postgame interview ever, and that's saying something with Shaq still around).

The records? Don't mean shit now. Congratulations on being the most prolific offense during the regular season. Now, go home. No parades, no Tonight Show interviews, no 'perfect' endorsement deals.

BTW: You're now 3-3 in Super Bowls. You're one more loss away from tieing the Broncos, Bills and Vikings in futility.[/quote]

Pats fans have been that way all year? Every Pats fan huh... And including me too huh... Nope. So don't tell me to eat a dick you ***** ****** jerk. Apply more things against me personally because of someone elses action. Get Real.
Belichiks interview was just the same as he always is, that's his personality. He didn't act different in the interview because of the game. Not trying to defend Belichik, just pointing out the obvious. The records still stand unless your bizarro world means records are erased if you lose the Super Bowl. Making it to the Super Bowl is an achievement in itself so you can parade all you want with how many losses teams have in championship games but it doesn't mean shit.
 
[quote name='J7.']Pats fans have been that way all year? Every Pats fan huh... And including me too huh... Nope. So don't tell me to eat a dick you ***** ****** jerk. Apply more things against me personally because of someone elses action. Get Real.
Belichiks interview was just the same as he always is, that's his personality. He didn't act different in the interview because of the game. Not trying to defend Belichik, just pointing out the obvious. The records still stand unless your bizarro world means records are erased if you lose the Super Bowl. Making it to the Super Bowl is an achievement in itself so you can parade all you want with how many losses teams have in championship games but it doesn't mean shit.[/QUOTE]

I see a bunch of words, but all I can picture in my head is
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[quote name='Heavy Hitter']Still can't believe Tyree's catch - and I've watched the replay a couple of dozen times.[/quote]

Indeed.

Probably the best catch I have ever seen. Although the Tyrone Prothro catch at Alabama a few years back is pretty close too. Too bad he never healed to get into the NFL.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']Indeed.

Probably the best catch I have ever seen. Although the Tyrone Prothro catch at Alabama a few years back is pretty close too. Too bad he never healed to get into the NFL.[/QUOTE]

The Tyree catch was incredible. My nephew and I were in a state of shock when it happened because it was so improbable.

I don't even like college sports, but I watched some of Tyrone Prothro's awesome catches. The guy was a beast. It's too bad his ankle snapped like a toothpick :whistle2:(

prothro.jpg

He would have been one of the greats.
 
Tyree's catch was unfuckingbeleivable!!

And count me in the group that was happier that the pats lost than teh giants won. I hate the patriots, hate HGH abusing Rodney Harrison, hate conceited arrogate Brady and Bruschi, and really really hate the ugliest/worst dressed/worst coach in the NFL (got caught cheating!? honestly WTF could be a worse quality in a coach?) Bellicheater.
 
[quote name='opportunity777']I agree. There's a hundred old football cliches, but I think the most important one is about winning the war in the trenches. If the lanes are open, then any runner should be able to have a good game. If the QB is properly protected, then even the most pedestrian QB can look good, which is one reason why Brady went from great to really great this year. Most of the year, Brady was just sitting back in the pocket MAKING and then drinking a cup of coffee because he had so much time.

I have to give props to the Giants receivers for coming through big in the 4th quarter. I also have to give a slight edge to Eli over Brady in last night's QB play. Neither player had a bad game (Eli had some errant throws, but I could point out just as many for Brady), but someone had to win it. I think Eli had to do more with less, so I give him the nod.

I think the Patriots were outplayed in every facet of the game. I find it totally absurd anyone on ESPN, FOX Sports or even this forum is writing about how the Patriots gave the game away. The Giants took The Pats by the throat and took the game (something many other teams couldn't do, although, many were close). The Pats fans need to be honest with themselves. Their team got more than a handful of lucky breaks over the season to stay perfect (Ravens game), but the loss wasn't because of being unlucky. They were just FAIRLY beaten by a better team.[/quote]

I agree with this 100%. Some of the comments posted here make me wonder if anyone actually watched the same game I did. The Giants took it to them, plain and simple. The Pats didn't lose - the Giants won.

Did anyone else think that Joe Buck was going to be gagging on some Tom Brady cock after the game? Jesus Christ.
 
I also second (or third now I suppose) Opportunity777's sentiments.

Even Troy Aikman said after the game, and I'm pretty sure its an exact quote: "Nobody can say that the Patriots gave this game away to them."
 
I think Joe Buck gags on some type of cock after every game, football or baseball. I guess he's not bad as an announcer but I hate listening to any game he calls because he makes everything so over dramatic and totally favors the star players no matter what they do (Brady last night for example).
 
As much as I was pulling for the Giants, some part of me feels bad for Brady. I hate Brady, period. But, people are now acting like he isn't going to be a G.O.A.T. Qb? The guy has been in 4 superbowls in only 7 years. Were so use to Brady playing unbelievable and he just had one of those games. Same with the Chargers game, something wasn't clicking. Maybe it was the Jags idea, keep everything in front of you. But, it's still good to see that the underdog always has a chance.
 
Here's Tom Brady's new Call of Duty 4 class:

Grenade Launcher
Sleight of Hand
Steady Aim


he needed all of those last night
 
[quote name='pittpizza']I also second (or third now I suppose) Opportunity777's sentiments. [/QUOTE]


Fourth that. Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
Thought this was a great article about how classless Bellicheat is.

On more than one occasion this year, Bill Belichick and the Patriots have run up the score on an overmatched opponent, and forced an opposing coach to sit there and watch his beaten team go through the motions while their heineys were being handed to them.

But when the shoe's on the other foot, and Bill Belichick's team has been beaten, he can't sit there and take the pain for a few seconds.

With :02 left on the clock, and his team just having failed on a last chance 4th down effort, Bill Belichick ran onto the field for a quick handshake, and then bolted for the locker room. Belichick's an important guy and everything, but I wasn't aware that the league had given him the authority to decide when games end.

There's time left on the clock, his team's been humbled, outplayed, and lost their chance at history ... and Bill Belichick doesn't have the stomach to sit there and absorb the pain until the clock read 0:00.

That's unsportsmanlike at best, disrespectful at least, and at worst, it makes him a big sissy.

Because Bill Belichick wanted to go hide when he lost, the field ended up being flooded with people, and the officials had to clear the area before the Giants could take their final snap and make it official. When you lose, you take your loss. You don't leave early because it makes you feel sad inside. Your opponent deserves more respect than that.

Anyone remember in 2004 when Randy Moss left the sidelines with 2 seconds left in a Vikings vs. Redskins game? Moss was selfish, a baby, a quitter, didn't respect his teammates, and didn't respect the game. Belichick just did the same thing, but did it on the biggest possible stage, and did it from the position of a leader of men.

Maybe there's something to be said for the inability to lose well ... most great winners don't lose well, and a sore loser is still a loser.

But still, if you're an adult, you finish out the game, and you give your opponents the stage and the respect they deserve
 
[quote name='pittpizza']I also second (or third now I suppose) Opportunity777's sentiments.

Even Troy Aikman said after the game, and I'm pretty sure its an exact quote: "Nobody can say that the Patriots gave this game away to them."[/QUOTE]


I don't agree with that. Eli tried throwing the interception on that last drive but the Pats didn't seem to want this game. If Samuel or Meriweather hold on to the ball we are talking undefeated and dynasty today.
 
Link?

I thought the same thing - a coach should finish the game out there with his players, no matter what.

[quote name='ph33r m3']Thought this was a great article about how classless Bellicheat is.

On more than one occasion this year, Bill Belichick and the Patriots have run up the score on an overmatched opponent, and forced an opposing coach to sit there and watch his beaten team go through the motions while their heineys were being handed to them.

But when the shoe's on the other foot, and Bill Belichick's team has been beaten, he can't sit there and take the pain for a few seconds.

With :02 left on the clock, and his team just having failed on a last chance 4th down effort, Bill Belichick ran onto the field for a quick handshake, and then bolted for the locker room. Belichick's an important guy and everything, but I wasn't aware that the league had given him the authority to decide when games end.

There's time left on the clock, his team's been humbled, outplayed, and lost their chance at history ... and Bill Belichick doesn't have the stomach to sit there and absorb the pain until the clock read 0:00.

That's unsportsmanlike at best, disrespectful at least, and at worst, it makes him a big sissy.

Because Bill Belichick wanted to go hide when he lost, the field ended up being flooded with people, and the officials had to clear the area before the Giants could take their final snap and make it official. When you lose, you take your loss. You don't leave early because it makes you feel sad inside. Your opponent deserves more respect than that.

Anyone remember in 2004 when Randy Moss left the sidelines with 2 seconds left in a Vikings vs. Redskins game? Moss was selfish, a baby, a quitter, didn't respect his teammates, and didn't respect the game. Belichick just did the same thing, but did it on the biggest possible stage, and did it from the position of a leader of men.

Maybe there's something to be said for the inability to lose well ... most great winners don't lose well, and a sore loser is still a loser.

But still, if you're an adult, you finish out the game, and you give your opponents the stage and the respect they deserve[/QUOTE]
 
[quote name='Blitz']I don't agree with that. Eli tried throwing the interception on that last drive but the Pats didn't seem to want this game. If Samuel or Meriweather hold on to the ball we are talking undefeated and dynasty today.[/QUOTE]

This opinion is flawed, and the argument holds no water. Let me show you why from the other perspective.

If Antonio Pierce turns around about 1/4 of a second sooner to see the ball before hitting Ben Watson, then Brady would have thrown an interception in the endzone. Instead, a defensive PI was called on Pierce, and the Patriots scored moments later.

If Steve Smith (Giants receiver -- it might have been Tyree instead of Steve Smith, but I don't have the replay in front of me) locates the ball on the Hail Mary at the end of the second quarter (which Eli threw perfectly), then Giants are up 10-7 going into the half.

If Steve Smith doesn't flip the ball up off his hands (the ball was thrown a little low, but he's a professional wide receiver, that's his ball to catch) for an interception by Ellis Hobbs while the Giants were within field goal range, then maybe the Giants would have scored a touchdown on that drive.

If If If If If ...... of course there are some "luck" factors involved in every game, but the Giants simply outplayed the Patriots. IMO, both teams got away with mistakes, and both teams left points on the field. How about the Patriots good luck that LT didn't play in the Chargers AFC Championship game and decided to pout on the sidelines like a baby with a bum knee, or Billick called a stupid timeout in the Ravens game? IMO, the last plays in the Ravens game were the most genuine lucky breaks for the Pats all season.

Honestly, I can't believe you even made that post. Talk about getting egg on your face.
 
[quote name='opportunity777']This argument holds no water. Let me show you why from the other perspective.

If Antonio Pierce turns around about 1/4 of a second sooner to see the ball before hitting Ben Watson, then Brady would have thrown an interception in the endzone.

If Steve Smith (Giants receiver -- it might have been Tyree instead of Steve Smith, but I don't have the replay in front of me) locates the ball on the Hail Mary at the end of the second quarter (which Eli threw perfectly), then Giants are up 10-7 going into the half.

If Steve Smith doesn't flip the ball up off his hands (the ball was thrown a little low, but he's a professional wide receiver, that's his ball to catch) for an interception by Ellis Hobbs while the Giants were within field goal range, then maybe the Giants would have scored a touchdown on that drive.

If If If If If ...... of course there are some "luck" factors involved in every game, but the Giants simply outplayed the Patriots. IMO, both teams got away with mistakes, and both teams left points on the field. How about the Patriots luck that LT didn't play in the Chargers game and decided to pout on the sidelines like a baby, or Billick called a stupid timeout in the Ravens game? IMO, the last plays in the Ravens game was the most geniune lucky breaks for the Pats all season.

Honestly, I can't believe you even made that post. Talk about getting egg on your face.[/QUOTE]


Yeah so? I never said it didn't go both ways. But I am right if Eli throws an INT on that last drive the Pats win.

The Giants did enough to win. When one play can change the game I wouldn't say outplayed. Both teams screwed up enough to allow the other team to win.

Egg on my face? What are you 10 years old?
 
[quote name='Blitz']Yeah so? I never said it didn't go both ways. But I am right if Eli throws an INT on that last drive the Pats win.

The Giants did enough to win. When one play can change the game I wouldn't say outplayed. Both teams screwed up enough to allow the other team to win.

Egg on my face? What are you 10 years old?[/QUOTE]

No, but you obviously showed your lack of maturity with your posts.

Well, if Moss reaches up like he has done in the past and grabbed the Hail Mary from Brady at the end of the game, then the Patriots win the game, right?

By your estimate, any team that loses actually gives a game away, right?

That's the saddest opinion I have read on these forums in a while.

By the way, I want the 30 seconds of my life back for even responding to these sorry posts. I'll bill you later.
 
[quote name='Blitz']Yeah so? I never said it didn't go both ways. But I am right if Eli throws an INT on that last drive the Pats win.

The Giants did enough to win. When one play can change the game I wouldn't say outplayed. Both teams screwed up enough to allow the other team to win.
[/QUOTE]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
 
[quote name='opportunity777']No, but you obviously showed your lack of maturity with your posts.

Well, if Moss reaches up like he has done in the past and grabbed the Hail Mary from Brady at the end of the game, then the Patriots win the game, right?

By your estimate, any team that loses actually gave the game away, right?

That's the saddest opinion I have read on these forums in a while.[/QUOTE]

My lack of maturity after you say I have egg on my face? If you can't take it don't dish it out Einstein. I will give it back tenfold.

The Moss point makes no sense because even if he catches it he wasn't anywhere near the EZ. Hello? If he was in the EZ, yes if he grabs the HM the Pats win.

Sometimes teams just outplay another team but last night that didn't happen unless you consider a 3 point victory outplaying somebody. The Giants did enough to win the game. That's really all that matters. If you think the pats got outplayed, good for you. I don't.

I will try to get over the fact that you don't like my opinion. It might take me months of therapy but I think one day I might be able to get over it.

Since you got offended over my 10 year old remark I will guess that I was very close to being right.
 
[quote name='opportunity777']

By the way, I want the 30 seconds of my life back for even responding to these sorry posts. I'll bill you later.[/QUOTE]


It took you 30 seconds to read that post? Wow. People tell you that you're special a lot huh?
 
[quote name='ph33r m3']Thought this was a great article about how classless Bellicheat is.

On more than one occasion this year, Bill Belichick and the Patriots have run up the score on an overmatched opponent, and forced an opposing coach to sit there and watch his beaten team go through the motions while their heineys were being handed to them.

But when the shoe's on the other foot, and Bill Belichick's team has been beaten, he can't sit there and take the pain for a few seconds.

With :02 left on the clock, and his team just having failed on a last chance 4th down effort, Bill Belichick ran onto the field for a quick handshake, and then bolted for the locker room. Belichick's an important guy and everything, but I wasn't aware that the league had given him the authority to decide when games end.

There's time left on the clock, his team's been humbled, outplayed, and lost their chance at history ... and Bill Belichick doesn't have the stomach to sit there and absorb the pain until the clock read 0:00.

That's unsportsmanlike at best, disrespectful at least, and at worst, it makes him a big sissy.

Because Bill Belichick wanted to go hide when he lost, the field ended up being flooded with people, and the officials had to clear the area before the Giants could take their final snap and make it official. When you lose, you take your loss. You don't leave early because it makes you feel sad inside. Your opponent deserves more respect than that.

Anyone remember in 2004 when Randy Moss left the sidelines with 2 seconds left in a Vikings vs. Redskins game? Moss was selfish, a baby, a quitter, didn't respect his teammates, and didn't respect the game. Belichick just did the same thing, but did it on the biggest possible stage, and did it from the position of a leader of men.

Maybe there's something to be said for the inability to lose well ... most great winners don't lose well, and a sore loser is still a loser.

But still, if you're an adult, you finish out the game, and you give your opponents the stage and the respect they deserve[/QUOTE]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/nf...lt=AkmoS2QPMXER57YArffr2Y1DubYF?urn=nfl,64971
 
[quote name='lionheart4life']I think Joe Buck gags on some type of cock after every game, football or baseball. I guess he's not bad as an announcer but I hate listening to any game he calls because he makes everything so over dramatic and totally favors the star players no matter what they do (Brady last night for example).[/QUOTE]
His handling of Randy Moss in Green Bay was one of the most ridiculous things I've heard out of an announcer, and this is coming from someone who is most certainly not a Randy Moss or Vikings fan. An impartial observer, if you will. And what I have impartially observed is that Joe Buck is so much of a fucking retard that I can only completely express my disgust for him in imaginary words. He is instupicuous and quite possibly looptid.
 
[quote name='ph33r m3']On more than one occasion this year, Bill Belichick and the Patriots have run up the score on an overmatched opponent, and forced an opposing coach to sit there and watch his beaten team go through the motions while their heineys were being handed to them.[/QUOTE]

When the Patriots were way ahead and its fourth down, they were often left with 3 choices:

1. Go for a likely field goal.
2. Punt it.
3. Go for it.

Now, if you're the other team, which one of these choices is going to have the best chance of being good for you? Option 3, obviously. You have a chance to stop them and get good field position instead of having 3 more points added to the deficit or having worse field position. All you have to do is stop them.
 
[quote name='evanft']When the Patriots were way ahead and its fourth down, they were often left with 3 choices:

1. Go for a likely field goal.
2. Punt it.
3. Go for it.

Now, if you're the other team, which one of these choices is going to have the best chance of being good for you? Option 3, obviously. You have a chance to stop them and get good field position instead of having 3 more points added to the deficit or having worse field position. All you have to do is stop them.[/QUOTE]

Which does nothing to address the point given which is that Bellicock showed he was a poor loser last night.
 
[quote name='Blitz']I don't agree with that. Eli tried throwing the interception on that last drive but the Pats didn't seem to want this game. If Samuel or Meriweather hold on to the ball we are talking undefeated and dynasty today.[/quote]

That would have been a miracle catch if Samuel brought it down - the ball hit his hands at the very top of his jump and he still would have had to land in bounds.
 
[quote name='javeryh']That would have been a miracle catch if Samuel brought it down - the ball hit his hands at the very top of his jump and he still would have had to land in bounds.[/QUOTE]

From reading the post game comments from Samuel, he felt he let it slip away. I think he tried to make a helluva a play, but I think he didn't have much of a chance to bring it down.
 
[quote name='evanft']When the Patriots were way ahead and its fourth down, they were often left with 3 choices:

1. Go for a likely field goal.
2. Punt it.
3. Go for it.

Now, if you're the other team, which one of these choices is going to have the best chance of being good for you? Option 3, obviously. You have a chance to stop them and get good field position instead of having 3 more points added to the deficit or having worse field position. All you have to do is stop them.[/quote]

Naw, that's oversimplifying things a bit. Plus I don't even agree with #3.

They knew what they were doing, and that's why they're douches for it.
 
[quote name='dothog']...and quite possibly looptid.[/QUOTE]

Awesome - a Humpty Hump reference. "Hey yo fat girl, c'mere are you ticklish?"
 
[quote name='keithp']Which does nothing to address the point given which is that Bellicock showed he was a poor loser last night.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, so? I didn't address it because I don't give a shit.

[quote name='primetime']Naw, that's oversimplifying things a bit. Plus I don't even agree with #3.

They knew what they were doing, and that's why they're douches for it.[/QUOTE]

No, it isn't.
 
[quote name='Chitown021']If the Giants were classless like the Pats they could've run one more play with :01 second on the clock and scored a TD.[/quote]

That's exactly what I was hoping for last night :lol:

And evan, lemme get this straight-you don't believe the Pats ran up the score on teams this year? I'm not sure. Your 4 word responses aren't giving me much to work with, but if you wanna let it drop that's fine with me. I've had this conversation too many times with people on these boards.
 
[quote name='primetime']And evan, lemme get this straight-you don't believe the Pats ran up the score on teams this year? I'm not sure. Your 4 word responses aren't giving me much to work with, but if you wanna let it drop that's fine with me. I've had this conversation too many times with people on these boards.[/QUOTE]

I presented my points very clearly and concisely. I couldn't have laid it out any easier. The Patriots made decisions in 4th down situations that gave the other team the best odds of a positive result for them. Period. Look at each situation:

Going for a field goal can likely have the following outcomes:
- Missed.
- Blocked.
- Made, kickoff puts them behind the 30.
- Made, kickoff puts them ahead of the 30.
- Made, kickoff returned for touchdown.
- Missed, caught in endzone, returned for yards.
- Missed, caught in endzone, returned for score.

The most likely occurence would be a made field goal and bad field position. This isn't a positive for the other team, obviously, as it increases the point deficit and only makes it harder for them to come back.

Punting can likely have the following outcomes:
- Blocked.
- Kicked, puts them behind the 20.
- Kicked, puts them ahead of the 20.
- Kicked, returned for a touchdown.

Obviously, a punt in a possible FG situation will likely put them behind the 20 or 30. While not running up the score, this does still make it harder for them to come back.

Going for it can likely have the following outcomes:
- 1st down, minimal yardage.
- 1st down, major yardage
- Touchdown
- Interception, minimal yardage
- Interception, major yardage
- Interception, returned for touchdown
- Fumble, recovered by Pats behind 1st down marker, turnover
- Fumble, recovered by Pats ahead of 1st down marker
- Fumble, recovered by Pats for touchdown
- Fumble, recovered by other team for minimal yardage
- Fumble, recovered by other team for major yardage
- Fumble, recovered by other team for touchdown

See that? There are tons of ways that going for it on fourth down can result in a positive for the other team that punting or a FG try cannot. They have the chance to prevent the Pats from getting the ball past the 1st down marker, force a fumble, or intercept a pass. These events are all much more likely than a blocked punt or a blocked FG.
 
[quote name='evanft']I presented my points very clearly and concisely. I couldn't have laid it out any easier. The Patriots made decisions in 4th down situations that gave the other team the best odds of a positive result for them. Period. Look at each situation:

Going for a field goal can likely have the following outcomes:
- Missed.
- Blocked.
- Made, kickoff puts them behind the 30.
- Made, kickoff puts them ahead of the 30.
- Made, kickoff returned for touchdown.
- Missed, caught in endzone, returned for yards.
- Missed, caught in endzone, returned for score.

The most likely occurence would be a made field goal and bad field position. This isn't a positive for the other team, obviously, as it increases the point deficit and only makes it harder for them to come back.

Punting can likely have the following outcomes:
- Blocked.
- Kicked, puts them behind the 20.
- Kicked, puts them ahead of the 20.
- Kicked, returned for a touchdown.

Obviously, a punt in a possible FG situation will likely put them behind the 20 or 30. While not running up the score, this does still make it harder for them to come back.

Going for it can likely have the following outcomes:
- 1st down, minimal yardage.
- 1st down, major yardage
- Touchdown
- Interception, minimal yardage
- Interception, major yardage
- Interception, returned for touchdown
- Fumble, recovered by Pats behind 1st down marker, turnover
- Fumble, recovered by Pats ahead of 1st down marker
- Fumble, recovered by Pats for touchdown
- Fumble, recovered by other team for minimal yardage
- Fumble, recovered by other team for major yardage
- Fumble, recovered by other team for touchdown

See that? There are tons of ways that going for it on fourth down can result in a positive for the other team that punting or a FG try cannot. They have the chance to prevent the Pats from getting the ball past the 1st down marker, force a fumble, or intercept a pass. These events are all much more likely than a blocked punt or a blocked FG.[/quote]

I didn't intend for you to go through with all of that...

Are you trying to say that the Patriots were doing the other team a favor by going for it on 4th down up 21 pts or more in the 4th quarter? Are you serious?
 
[quote name='Blitz']My lack of maturity after you say I have egg on my face? If you can't take it don't dish it out Einstein. I will give it back tenfold.

The Moss point makes no sense because even if he catches it he wasn't anywhere near the EZ. Hello? If he was in the EZ, yes if he grabs the HM the Pats win.

Sometimes teams just outplay another team but last night that didn't happen unless you consider a 3 point victory outplaying somebody. The Giants did enough to win the game. That's really all that matters. If you think the pats got outplayed, good for you. I don't.

I will try to get over the fact that you don't like my opinion. It might take me months of therapy but I think one day I might be able to get over it.

Since you got offended over my 10 year old remark I will guess that I was very close to being right.[/QUOTE]

I'll play the *What If* game too. If the refs didn't cheat the Raiders that game against the Pats, guess who would've went to the Superbowl? Guess who would've went back to starting as the Pats QB?


Also, Patriots play 4 downs, not 3! Honestly tho, I would've went for it as well. Gostkowski is not a very good kicker and they had more faith in Brady.
 
[quote name='SteveMcQ']So, basically, Bellichick is an idiot.[/QUOTE]


Yeah, and a cheater, and a slob, and perhaps most importantly UGLY.
 
[quote name='pittpizza']Yeah, and a cheater, and a slob, and perhaps most importantly UGLY.[/quote]

i cant believe you would say that

....no ones uglier than maroney
 
those who say the Pats gave them a gift don't realize that the game went both ways.. the freak int the Smith tipped up to Hobbs = the missed int by Samuel..

I really think the Pats are soon going to be in a world of hurt with Spector.. if Goodell listens..
 
[quote name='becuzimbrown']i cant believe you would say that

....no ones uglier than maroney[/quote]

I would say Sam Cassell, aka "The Alien", is uglier:

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When the PATS went for the touchdown rather than attempt the field goal, it did more than just give the Giants the ball back... it officially swung momentum in the Giants favor.
 
I dont see how anyone could have wanted the Patriots to win the super bowl knowing that at some points in time during the season they were cheating. The NFL supposedly destroyed the tapes that were made of other teams by the PATS... seems to me that the NFL is just trying to sweep the whole incident under a rug. I think they should suspend Belicock, or take some sort of disciplinary action.
 
I thought the Giants fuck ed themselves by not going for it on 4th and 1 on the drive before Moss scored to put the Pats in the lead. You just knew with over 6 minutes left the Pats were going to score.
 
[quote name='Chitown021']I thought the Giants fuck ed themselves by not going for it on 4th and 1 on the drive before Moss scored to put the Pats in the lead. You just knew with over 6 minutes left the Pats were going to score.[/quote]

They were too far back in their own territory. Part of me wanted to see them go for it but punting was the right call - especially since the Giants D held the Pats to 7 points through the first 53 minutes of the game.
 
[quote name='javeryh']They were too far back in their own territory. Part of me wanted to see them go for it but punting was the right call - especially since the Giants D held the Pats to 7 points through the first 53 minutes of the game.[/QUOTE]

Yep. There's now way you go for from where they were. Coughlin would have lossed his job.
 
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