Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Gen. Discussion & Info

[quote name='pittpizza']I heard that you're going to be able to implement an "adult" version of the communication demands. I wonder what some good phrases would be?[/quote]

SHAQ-FU!
 
Thought DMK wasn't even going to buy this game, let alone import it.

And can anyone tell me if Brawl suffers from Mario Kart syndrome? Will the ultra-competitive-elitist-super-happy-sexy-fun-time smash scene meet its end?

All I've seen so far are matches with items. Either no one likes playing without items, or itemless is just that boring (personally, I'm on the no-items faction... yeah, yeah "REKWIREZ NO SKILLZ"). Can anyone post impressions on items turned off? Thanks in advance.
 
[quote name='Foo228']just noticed something..

brawl is coming out exactly 1 year since I joined cag

talk about epic[/quote]

another conspiracy related to me and the ever infamous Brawl is that I've got 39 feedback and Brawl comes out in NA (where I'm located :cool:) on 3/9

Coincidence???

I think not ;)
 
[quote name='option.iv']Thought DMK wasn't even going to buy this game, let alone import it.

And can anyone tell me if Brawl suffers from Mario Kart syndrome? Will the ultra-competitive-elitist-super-happy-sexy-fun-time smash scene meet its end?

All I've seen so far are matches with items. Either no one likes playing without items, or itemless is just that boring (personally, I'm on the no-items faction... yeah, yeah "REKWIREZ NO SKILLZ"). Can anyone post impressions on items turned off? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

At the party I went to we played with all items except Final Smashes and Assist Trophies turned off (much to my dismay). Anyway it was still awesome and I had a great time. I thought playing it once would satisfy my craving and make the wait easier. Now I want it even more!
 
[quote name='Furashu']this might be a crazy question but why isnt anyone considering using the wiimote? lol

im going to use my wired GC controllers since i dont wanna waste money for wireless[/quote]There are a few reasons, but Sakurai specifically recommended wired GC controllers for the superior rumble. But like I said, there are other reasons, too.
 
[quote name='option.iv']Can anyone post impressions on items turned off? Thanks in advance.[/quote]

It's fun, although it's a little slower. I didn't play too many rounds without the smash ball on.
 
This isn't written in stone, but i'm 80% sure that brawl WILL come out on March 9th. I got my issue of Nintendo Power and the reviewer of Super Smash Bros. Brawl got an uber inside insider advance on the NORTH AMERICAN version! IMO, since he did the review on the actual NA game, I think its in production now, ready to pwn us!
 
[quote name='option.iv']That's some juicy information! [sarcasm][/quote]

I wouldnt be surprised if nintendo delayed it again. The fuckers are always delaying games that are already released somewhere else. Remember pokemon diamond/pearl?
 
[quote name='willardhaven']I'll probably end up trying out all the controller options, just for some new flavor.

The classic controller looks like it might be my favorite.[/QUOTE]

Wavebird all the way!


(also, does anyone know if smash will be like all the other nintendo titles in which you need a friend code to to play someone on-line? I wish they would just let you "search for a match" or "quick match"or something like xbox live.
 
[quote name='Drnick']Wavebird all the way!


(also, does anyone know if smash will be like all the other nintendo titles in which you need a friend code to to play someone on-line? I wish they would just let you "search for a match" or "quick match"or something like xbox live.[/quote]

If im not mistaken, it will. You wont be able to send any of the custom taunts, but you do get randomly selected against people.
 
[quote name='StinkyCheese']I wouldnt be surprised if nintendo delayed it again. The fuckers are always delaying games that are already released somewhere else. Remember pokemon diamond/pearl?[/QUOTE]
You're right, wasn't it released here like half a year later?

Haha, maybe they want their Japanese kindred to have half a year's play time so they could forever own us. Oh yeah, would we be able to play with people outside the US? Like when one logs onto Tetris DS, all you can find are Japanese pros, that can whoop you in 5 secs.
 
[quote name='option.iv']You're right, wasn't it released here like half a year later?

Haha, maybe they want their Japanese kindred to have half a year's play time so they could forever own us. Oh yeah, would we be able to play with people outside the US? Like when one logs onto Tetris DS, all you can find are Japanese pros, that can whoop you in 5 secs.[/QUOTE]

More text to translate.

I wont say that Brawl will absolutely ship by the 9th, but they are letting retail partners plan midnight launches. So unless a show stopping bug is found in the Japan gold master we should be good to go.... in another 4 weeks.
 
[quote name='option.iv']You're right, wasn't it released here like half a year later?

Haha, maybe they want their Japanese kindred to have half a year's play time so they could forever own us. Oh yeah, would we be able to play with people outside the US? Like when one logs onto Tetris DS, all you can find are Japanese pros, that can whoop you in 5 secs.[/quote]

I know with Pokemon D/P, you can find japanese players to trade with.
 
How about before people stop talking about another delay, they get something that might indicate that? Like Amazon.com changing their date, another retailer sending them an e-mail, etc. None of this "Oh I just think it might" nonsense.

At least with the previous two delays (excluding the "hey this game was going to launch the Wii") there was reasonable evidence to suggest them in the form of...well, the suggestions I have above.
 
My battle is up on YouTube. I got my ass kicked this round, I ended up coming in third. I'm player three, playing as Samus. You can hear me yelling "No no NO GET AWAY!" and "Oh wow that was terrible". I seriously played like shit this round, but in my defense, Samus does not handle the same way in Brawl and she's significantly slower. That still doesn't make up for the awful horrible I took though.

Quality is meh.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71ypyMjyPDI[/media]
 
[quote name='ananag112']So the game supports 480p, widescreen, Pro Logic II and all that jazz?[/quote]

Not sure I know what Pro Logic II is, but yes to all that other stuff.
 
[quote name='Rig']This would be the one game I would have no problem buying DLC for! I hope it's true, and they release some really great additional characters.[/quote]

LOL master chief XD impossible, i know
 
[quote name='-Never4ever-']Go on . . .[/QUOTE]

I could imagine problems playing online matches if one person was using a DLC character you did not buy, for starters.

Another is the Wii's severe, severe fucking lack of storage space. "Put it on the SD card if you're not using it," someone will surely say...
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I could imagine problems playing online matches if one person was using a DLC character you did not buy, for starters.

Another is the Wii's severe, severe fucking lack of storage space. "Put it on the SD card if you're not using it," someone will surely say...[/QUOTE]

Yep.

The only way around the first problem (someone having some piece of data the other people don't) is if you do what the 360 Uno Kameo deck does, which forces a download of data to those who don't have it, and then erases it when you close the game (but not before suggesting that you buy it, the sneaky sneaks). But I doubt the Wii can handle that for...dozens of reasons, so that's out.

The lack of storage space is the other big problem. Can't assume people have SD cards, and Nintendo seems pretty anti-HD at this time, despite their comments prior to launch.

They could just say fuck it and let people do it provided they have an SD card, assuming that the people who care about extra characters would go the extra mile, but that's kind of an insult to the gaming base and all the developers. "Hey guys, you're working this weekend for the 18 people who want Megaman in the game."
 
Expanding the game's characters seems like a fine idea on the surface, and I'd be happy if they allowed direct access from the SD slot (whether for this or playing VC titles). But it is technically feasible to do?

EDIT: As always, if this happens, price will determine my interest.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I could imagine problems playing online matches if one person was using a DLC character you did not buy, for starters.

Another is the Wii's severe, severe fucking lack of storage space. "Put it on the SD card if you're not using it," someone will surely say...[/QUOTE]

They'll probably have to sells the DLC is pack form, much like Halo 3 and just have seperate listings.

The storage space issue, on the other hand, I can totally see. Perhaps they finally wake up and let you load things off the SD cards.
 
I thought I remember Sakurai saying that he was going to allow direct SD card access, but I honestly can't back that up. I was under the impression that might be used for...stages maybe? But again, I'm not positive.

This reminds me:

[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC0w3NqfwE0[/MEDIA]

VGCats thinks it's just Mugen skinned with those characters, but I have to admit this looks pretty badass. I mean, I'd play it. Might have to ban anyone who wants to play with Cloud though.

Why? Because Cloud is a pussy, that's why.
 
[quote name='-Never4ever-']They'll probably have to sells the DLC is pack form, much like Halo 3 and just have seperate listings.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps. I can't imagine many people clamoring to pay for Mr. Resetti.
 
Thanks for the vid post SKK. I have a feeling I won't bother to play as Samus ever when Brawl comes stateside. She seems almost...low tier...
 
[quote name='StinkyCheese']I wouldnt be surprised if nintendo delayed it again. The fuckers are always delaying games that are already released somewhere else. Remember pokemon diamond/pearl?[/quote]


uh maybe cause the games are in A WHOLE DIFFERENT LANGUAGE?
and because HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of americans want the game not just you?

just a shot in the dark there..


still havent pre-ordered
 
[quote name='Strell']Can't assume people have SD cards...[/QUOTE]

Why not? I agree with you, in that we're unlikely to see a HD option anytime soon on the Wii. But SD cards can be cheap, and don't seem too uncommon. In fact, if I were a parent, I would probably be more likely to buy an SD card than to buy an external hard drive.

I don't know how likely new content is for Brawl, or any other Nintendo produced title. I just don't see it happening, since Nintendo just doesn't seem to get the "interwebs".
 
[quote name='Strell']Yep.

The only way around the first problem (someone having some piece of data the other people don't) is if you do what the 360 Uno Kameo deck does, which forces a download of data to those who don't have it, and then erases it when you close the game (but not before suggesting that you buy it, the sneaky sneaks). But I doubt the Wii can handle that for...dozens of reasons, so that's out.

The lack of storage space is the other big problem. Can't assume people have SD cards, and Nintendo seems pretty anti-HD at this time, despite their comments prior to launch.

They could just say fuck it and let people do it provided they have an SD card, assuming that the people who care about extra characters would go the extra mile, but that's kind of an insult to the gaming base and all the developers. "Hey guys, you're working this weekend for the 18 people who want Megaman in the game."[/QUOTE]

Well I think the other way they could account for that is the Halo way...sorta. Halo has playlists specifically for people who have downloaded the map packs before they become free. This separates the haves from the have nots.

Nintendo could potentially create a matchmaking system where it reads if a player has DLC and thus matches them against other players with DLC. This doesn't mean that they could only use DLC players or DLC levels. I'm saying that if the game could detect what each player had, and matched them up, so you say could have a match between Mario and oh IDK Dante from DMC if he were a DLC character.

Of course this is Nintendo we're talking about, and I doubt that type of system would ever fucking happened, but the amount of online content they've put into SSBB is surprising and gives hope to their online potential.
 
Well remember that if you're playing against people who don't have unlocked characters, they still see it, and they're spoiled. This was mentioned in an update. So if a DLC character was released, you'd most likely still have this situation occur, except with new characters.

I just hope I get my system back in time to smackdown all of you.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']Well remember that if you're playing against people who don't have unlocked characters, they still see it, and they're spoiled. This was mentioned in an update. So if a DLC character was released, you'd most likely still have this situation occur, except with new characters.

I just hope I get my system back in time to smackdown all of you.[/QUOTE]

Well too fucking bad for those players then, they happen to see a character they don't have. They need to get on board.
 
[quote name='Furashu']uh maybe cause the games are in A WHOLE DIFFERENT LANGUAGE?
and because HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of americans want the game not just you?

just a shot in the dark there..


still havent pre-ordered[/quote]

I guess your right, I'm just so damn impatient.
 
Nothing really to add to the conversation at the moment, but this has got to be the greatest thread in all of CAGdom. It really is awesome, and I just have to thank the OP and everyone who as contributed. I simply can't wait for this to come out stateside. I was at a BB the other day that was taking preorders, but they had to stop taking them (which me, some kids, and some other people behind me all grumbled to) because there is just such a demand. Play 'n' Trade has a burgeoning list of 75 people just in my area for the game. Oh well, Fry's always comes through in the end.
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']Of course this is Nintendo we're talking about, and I doubt that type of system would ever fucking happened, but the amount of online content they've put into SSBB is surprising and gives hope to their online potential.[/QUOTE]

I'm actually surprised about ANY online content in SSBB.

We have to remember something: it's Nintendo.

The cow is already milked and left for dead.

There is no fucking way in hell they are going to update this game in any way. If there are any downloadable patches of any kind, then I will probably crap myself.

It would be awesome, but I have no hope.
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']
Nintendo could potentially create a matchmaking system where it reads if a player has DLC and thus matches them against other players with DLC. This doesn't mean that they could only use DLC players or DLC levels. I'm saying that if the game could detect what each player had, and matched them up, so you say could have a match between Mario and oh IDK Dante from DMC if he were a DLC character.
[/QUOTE]

I've never felt that matching systems online in any game worked. I also want to say that to do this, it would have to be built into Brawl's code already, but I'm not certain of that (though if it is true, then it's out of the question).

On the subject of SD cards: Mmmm. I always thought Nintendo could actually include these with a game for a slightly increased price for a game that demanded it. When the rumor of the AC MMO was going around (which I thought was bunk from the get-go), they could easily slide in a gig SD card, tack on another $10, and sent the game out. Then all the data could have been downloaded and accessed directly from the card, eliminating any storage issues.

Those of us who already have cards would just be getting another card, much like how the GC version came with an additional memory card.

That could work, but I still don't see it happening.

Eh. Brawl is going to be awesome no matter what, and the feelings of missed opportunity aren't going to last long as far as I'm concerned. I played Melee the other night and it still felt 100% awesome, so I'm not too worried with a game that seems like it is 100 times bigger.
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']Well too fucking bad for those players then, they happen to see a character they don't have. They need to get on board.[/quote]

I think you misunderstood me. That's how it was presented in the DOJO. I'm not saying it's going to happen a lot, if at all.

Still doesn't solve my problem though :cry:
 
[quote name='foltzie']Todays Dojo Update: Yoshi's standard moves.[/QUOTE]

Also, some hidden features regarding stage creator. Looks pretty amazing.
 
[quote name='theflicker']Also, some hidden features regarding stage creator. Looks pretty amazing.[/quote]

I'm not nearly creative enough to make anything fun. I remember struggling with the skate park editors on random Tony Hawk game years ago.

I'm not 100% educated about the downloading of stages - will we be able to search for and download a stage someone made here for instance? Or will we have to send them over friend codes?
 
[quote name='CombatCraig']I'm not nearly creative enough to make anything fun. I remember struggling with the skate park editors on random Tony Hawk game years ago.

I'm not 100% educated about the downloading of stages - will we be able to search for and download a stage someone made here for instance? Or will we have to send them over friend codes?[/quote]

You can trade them via friend system, but you can submit them to Nintendo and they'll send out one user made map a day. The weird thing is the map you download will be erased the next day.
 
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