Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Gen. Discussion & Info

[quote name='ananag112']Yeah. They should follow this game up with a Kingdom Hearts style Action RPG.[/QUOTE]
With Square's renewed interest in Nintendo systems, this seems more and more a possibility. Mario RPG was a huge hit for both companies, and Nintendo could certainly use a game with the Square name on it to fend off any surges by the PS3 in Japan. Of course, that doesn't mean any of this is likely, but only that it's a good idea from a business standpoint. Plus, if Nintendo is truly more focused on developing "innovative" titles (read: Wii Sports), then we'll likely see some more farming out of traditional titles (yeah, we all know how well that's worked with Star Fox...).
 
[quote name='elwood731']With Square's renewed interest in Nintendo systems, this seems more and more a possibility. Mario RPG was a huge hit for both companies, and Nintendo could certainly use a game with the Square name on it to fend off any surges by the PS3 in Japan. Of course, that doesn't mean any of this is likely, but only that it's a good idea from a business standpoint. Plus, if Nintendo is truly more focused on developing "innovative" titles (read: Wii Sports), then we'll likely see some more farming out of traditional titles (yeah, we all know how well that's worked with Star Fox...).[/quote]

Nintendo is getting tons of Squeenix love -- look at the number of DS titles. I mean friggin Dragon Quest 9 is going to the DS. As far as the Wii goes, I think they'll see how well Dragon Quest Swords does on the Wii before they really invest in the Wii.
 
[quote name='elwood731']With Square's renewed interest in Nintendo systems, this seems more and more a possibility. Mario RPG was a huge hit for both companies, and Nintendo could certainly use a game with the Square name on it to fend off any surges by the PS3 in Japan. Of course, that doesn't mean any of this is likely, but only that it's a good idea from a business standpoint. Plus, if Nintendo is truly more focused on developing "innovative" titles (read: Wii Sports), then we'll likely see some more farming out of traditional titles (yeah, we all know how well that's worked with Star Fox...).[/QUOTE]

I would be shocked if there wasn't a KH game in the works for Wii. Specifically, KH3.
 
I think Capcom will have a character in the game and it will be one of the following:

Megaman
Viewtiful Joe
Phoenix Wright or another character from that game series
Mike Haggar

I also think Namco will have someone in this game (probably Pac Man)
 
[quote name='ananag112']I think Capcom will have a character in the game and it will be one of the following:

Megaman
Viewtiful Joe
Phoenix Wright or another character from that game series
Mike Haggar

I also think Namco will have someone in this game (probably Pac Man)[/quote]for namco i'd guess a tales character
 
[quote name='-Never4ever-']I would be shocked if there wasn't a KH game in the works for Wii. Specifically, KH3.[/QUOTE]
I'm fairly certain that Kingdom Hearts III has already been announced for the PS3, so I doubt that. I know people think they'll just tone down the graphics, but it'd make more sense just to do a new game, or even port the previous two in a compilation.
 
Rayquaza as a boss - COUNT ON IT.

Also, from all of the other videos that I've seen, it seems like the end of those kinds of clips lead to a 1p/2p character selection (who uses which character). This leads me to believe that at the end of the game, all of the characters are going to be on screen, in a damn exciting pose, where 2 players (or maybe more?) choose who fights the final boss.

I really hope that's what happens. :pray:
 
[quote name='elwood731']I'm fairly certain that Kingdom Hearts III has already been announced for the PS3, so I doubt that.[/QUOTE]
No, it hasn't. They've announced Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep for PSP, Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days for DS, and Kindgom Hearts: coded for mobile phones, and that's it. Technically, a third core Kingdom Hearts game hasn't been officially announced (as in, there are no real press releases or concrete info), although KH2's secret movie makes it more than clear that they are doing one eventually.

Officially, there is absolutely no clue as to what platform Kingdom Hearts III will be on. But come on, seriously, ask yourself, and think about this from S-E's perspective: Would KH3 sell more copies on PS3, or Wii? Consider the game's target audience, and current hardware sales figures. Seriously, if you were an all-powerful executive at S-E, which system would you tell the development team to make it for?

[quote name='elwood731']...and Nintendo could certainly use a game with the Square name on it to fend off any surges by the PS3 in Japan.[/QUOTE]
They're making two Crystal Chronicles games for Wii, and DQ9 (as well as a bunch of DQ remakes) for DS, and they seem to have been releasing at least one high-profile DS game a month. Nintendo seems to have plenty of SE support.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']No, it hasn't. They've announced Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep for PSP, Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days for DS, and Kindgom Hearts: coded for mobile phones, and that's it. Technically, a third core Kingdom Hearts game hasn't been officially announced (as in, there are no real press releases or concrete info), although KH2's secret movie makes it more than clear that they are doing one eventually.

Officially, there is absolutely no clue as to what platform Kingdom Hearts III will be on. But come on, seriously, ask yourself, and think about this from S-E's perspective: Would KH3 sell more copies on PS3, or Wii? Consider the game's target audience, and current hardware sales figures. Seriously, if you were an all-powerful executive at S-E, which system would you tell the development team to make it for?


They're making two Crystal Chronicles games for Wii, and DQ9 (as well as a bunch of DQ remakes) for DS, and they seem to have been releasing at least one high-profile DS game a month. Nintendo seems to have plenty of SE support.[/QUOTE]

Not trying to derail the topic, but the secret movie at the end of KH2 was actually revealed to be a teaser for Birth by Sleep.
 
Been playing Tomb Raider Anniversary.
Speaking of 3rd party characters..if they can make Snake work, I think Lara Croft could be kinda kick ass in Brawl. Generally speaking of course, not saying she SHOULD be in the game or not.
 
What's with the stretchy beam sword? I'm not sure I like that.

And anyone notice the stopwatch falling out of the party ball? Wonder what that's for..?

Also:
[quote name='ananag112']
Phoenix Wright
[/quote]
 
[quote name='elwood731']Mario RPG was a huge hit for both companies, [/quote]don't get me wrong. I loved Mario RPG and one day when I get time I'll play thru it but I thought Mario RPG was anything but a hit. unless I'm remembering incorrectly.
[quote name='ananag112']I think Capcom will have a character in the game and it will be one of the following:

Megaman
Viewtiful Joe
Phoenix Wright or another character from that game series
Mike Haggar[/quote]as much as i want it to be Megaman or VJ. it would probably end up being Phoenix Wright ugh.[quote name='elwood731']I'm fairly certain that Kingdom Hearts III has already been announced for the PS3, so I doubt that. I know people think they'll just tone down the graphics, but it'd make more sense just to do a new game, or even port the previous two in a compilation.[/quote]seeing as how they're already working on three KH games as it is. I'd say we hold off on even the speculation on KH3 for the momemnt.
:psp: Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep
:ds: Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days
Mobile - Kingdom Hearts Code
just to be clear. 3 KH games is different from KH3
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']
Also, the new clip brings up my second-biggest complaint with a character in Brawl (after Sonic, of course): Fox. Ugh. The used the fucking hideous character design from Star Fox Command. His head looks like a fucking bell, god damn it. Seriously, does anyone think that this looks cooler than this?[/quote]

I'm not even touching the Sonic thing, but I mostly agree with you there. I think the new costume is better, but his head looks fucking ridiculous. What the hell is up with his nose?
 
[quote name='ananag112']I think Capcom will have a character in the game and it will be one of the following:

Megaman
Viewtiful Joe
Phoenix Wright or another character from that game series
Mike Haggar

I also think Namco will have someone in this game (probably Pac Man)[/quote]
I will be very disapointed if a Capcom character isn't Leon S Kennedy, especially after Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition sold so well.


[quote name='lilboo']Been playing Tomb Raider Anniversary.
Speaking of 3rd party characters..if they can make Snake work, I think Lara Croft could be kinda kick ass in Brawl. Generally speaking of course, not saying she SHOULD be in the game or not.[/quote]
I wonder if we'll even get any western third party characters.
 
Gray Fox (AKA Ninja from MGS) assist trophy!!

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Gray Fox. Samurai Goroh. Lyn.

No more sword wielding assist trophies. Please.

EDIT: Also, with the inclusion of a Metal Gear character assist trophy, my money's on Tails or Knuckles as well.
 
Well, if Tails is an AT, I'm sure he comes on screen and has sex with Sonic.

And if Sonic isn't there, he flies by on his biplane and carpet bombs ze harba.
 
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YEAH! fuck you Fox!

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Do I sense fear in Link?

Gray Fox, awesome, now give me The End/The Fury and I'll be super happy. Seems like there won't be any other playable MGS characters but a Naked Snake and/or Raiden alt costume would be awesome.

EDIT: Psycho Mantis too, blacking out the screen in common with things like Togepi doing it, just slap Psycho Mantis in there to black the screen out and put HIDEO at the top, of course he coudl do other awesome things like mess with your controller.

EDIT EDIT: the number of sword slashing ATs is kinda disappointing though.
 
[quote name='maigoyume']oh very schmexy, though i didn't know that ninja was called
grey fox
, spoiler tags anyone?[/quote]

Well... Dojo calls him Gray Fox.
 
And besides, if you don't know it's Gray Fox by now you deserve to have it spoiled for you. Were a year before MGS4 and if you havent played MGS1, this has been long time coming.
 
well that does give me hope for Tails, Knuckles as ATs which would be satisfying for me. I don't want this roster to get out of control. Next thing you know we're Marvel vs Capcom 2
 
[quote name='maigoyume']oh very schmexy, though i didn't know that ninja was called
grey fox
, spoiler tags anyone?[/QUOTE]
Grey Fox wouldn't approve of spoiler tags.

I believe the best update they could ever give would be to announce some assist trophies as playable characters. Grey Fox would be the ultimate character. I hate opening up the update and seeing his picture, only to find out he's an assist trophy.
 
looks like they're sticking with MGS1 characters and such for Snake's addition to the game. Sniper Wolf might make a good one too, put a big target on the screen and it randomly targets an enemy, with a good but not perfect chance to hit them. Use a shaky target and heavy breathing sound effects.
 
Wasn't it confirmed along time ago that tails was an assist trophy? I mean I remember hearing that during the E4 all event some people used him and he is basically a hovering saftey net. IE: Picks you up and flys you back to the arena if you fall off. I am not crazy right? Anyone else remember this?
 
I guess it makes sense that ATs follow the "must appear on a Nintendo system" rule too. I'm sure this won't affect Sonic too much, since almost the entire library made it onto the Gamecube.
 
I just hope that Sonic's ATs won't delve too far into the Sonic universe. *cough* fuck BIG THE CAT *cough*

Here's to seeing a Metal Sonic AT.
 
Dr. Robotnik in one of his egg vehicles as one of the Subspace bosses would be quite awesome, especially if the team at the time was Mario and Sonic.
 
More questions than answers. Its all intriguing when he mentions Ness so many times, but then Lucas' moves seem different enough to keep Ness in it. Why else would he mention the different Smash moves, etc?

EDIT: I'm going to be stubborn. I don't think hes out. "Up until now" could mean anything. He could be saying that because he hasn't revealed Ness yet, but wants to mention that he is similar. He could be saying that Ness is out. He could be saying....etc. Because why would he even mention that Lucas' physical movepool is different from Ness'. Hell, Ness could have a total revamp. He hasn't shown physical moves for any other character with their B moves.

While I agree this does no bode well for Ness, this is by no means official until we know Ness is not in the game. For all we know it could be a mistranslation, or he worded it incorrectly. So until he says "Ness is no longer playable" or when we get the game and find Ness is not in it, I will not throw Ness into the dumpster. There are any number of explanations for what he had said, Ness is out is just what everyone first thinks of.

Though it is pretty sad Ness goes from the best (Smash), to bad (Melee), to gone (Brawl) if he really is out.
 
They've probably adjusted to daylight savings and it'll be back at 3:00. Looking at the Japan update, it's looks like Lucas has taken Ness' moveset. Either Ness is out, he has a completely new moveset, or he's a clone (which would be the worst news about the game thus far).
 
Lucas' snake is grabbing onto the ledge, leading me to think that it's his throw. A ranged throw would be another difference between him and Ness.
 
I say why not have both Ness and Lucas, they really need to stuff this game full of everything they can think of for now. The Smash game after this likely won't appear till the next console anyway, so they have to go nuts now.
 
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