The "Bitch About WrestleMania XXX Here" Wrestling Thread

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Booking decisions aside I really enjoyed Wrestlemania 30 and the Network stood up pretty well, so kudos to them for that.

I hope the Network is doing the numbers they need it to cos it's a great deal IMO.

 
RoytheRobot said:
Pretty decent Wrestlemania. The best match was HHH vs Bryan. The Worst match was... You know.
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Yea, the Shields match.

This WrestleMania was great from start to finish.

Undertaker losing was the best thing for everyone. Now next year when he wrestles Sting it wont be so obvious who will win, Im sure Undertaker will win and then HOPEFULLY retire. People saying they should have had some young guy end the streak are just wrong. Look back at all the young guys who they could have had end it, Ken Kennedy, MVP, Sheamus... with someone not established ending it you risk some guy who never lives up to his potential ending the streak. Having Brock end it was great. It was a huge surprise. He is established so if he retires tomorrow its no big deal. The way he left WWE the first time made me think there was no way theyd let him end it but that just added to the shock.

A few questions; At the HoF there was an old lady sitting with Cena, and then at Mania she was sitting near Warriors family. Who was she? Also, who were the two girls who came in to celebrate with Bryan at the end?

Edit: I guess it was Bryans sister and niece. Still dont know who the old lady was, Cenas mom maybe? Mr Ts mom!?

 
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Mr. T's mom is everyone's mom.

Taker looked terrible last night.  If people have to sit through one more match like that, I'd rather he not wrestle again.  I'm sure there's a very interesting story behind-the-scenes on this one, and maybe people will be lucky to hear it in the near future.  Terrible buildup.  Brock looked weak, Taker looked strong. Promos said one thing, actions showed another.  We get to the match, Promos were right, Taker looked old, tired, beaten and unfit to compete.  When he walked out he had no emotion, didn't acknowledge the crowd, heck he didn't even look tired.  He looked like he fucked up, knew it, but didn't know what to do about it.

 
KingBroly said:
Mr. T's mom is everyone's mom.

Taker looked terrible last night. If people have to sit through one more match like that, I'd rather he not wrestle again. I'm sure there's a very interesting story behind-the-scenes on this one, and maybe people will be lucky to hear it in the near future. Terrible buildup. Brock looked weak, Taker looked strong. Promos said one thing, actions showed another. We get to the match, Promos were right, Taker looked old, tired, beaten and unfit to compete. When he walked out he had no emotion, didn't acknowledge the crowd, heck he didn't even look tired. He looked like he fucked up, knew it, but didn't know what to do about it.
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Cannot argue with some of it, agree with the match being terrible (taker too) but he kept playing with his eyes after the match... I personally think he was trying to stay in character by holding back allot of emotion.

(Also some have suggested a concussion... Which can lead to allot of confusion,)

 
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Yea Taker really did look bad. He is old and looks every year his age now. Also, the Undertaker should never have a tan. I thought the entire match was really boring, and if not for the great end the whole thing would have been forgettable. Hopefully they give us a great build up for Sting vs Taker next year, cant expect them to really give a good match, but have Taker win and then retire. Put him in the Hall of Fame and call it a career.

 
I really don't have issue with Taker losing, never been a fan. Dude has a more limited moveset than Cena and kills any push of most of the guys he's faced because he sells nothing. That being said, everything about that match was awful. The build, the actual match, the finish. It was a pretty bad way to end the streak no matter how you look at it. It wasn't that he lost, it's that it was a pretty garbage way to end one of the iconic things about Wrestlemania. Maybe he was in fact too broken at this point to get something decent out of him, but they probably could've done something better than what they did.

 
KillerRamen said:
After watching the match, I don't think Taker had another Wrestlemania in him to lose to someone else. At 49, he probably shouldn't have even participated in this one.
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Yes, UT looked really slow and I think Brock held back some so he wouldn't seriously hurt him. If he does indeed retire now, at least he went out the traditional way, on his back.

Not the guy I would have picked to end the streak though. It should have been someone who goes out there every night and not a "special attraction" guy.

 
My pick would've been Bray. Better than wasting him on Cena only to ultimately do nothing with it.

 
For the record my WM stream on WWE Net was flawless on my PS3. So consider me pleased. I thought the show was pretty good for a Mania and honestly the best one since 24. My only real complaint is I really hated the ending to Cena/Wyatt. Bray Wyatt is over no doubt regardless.

In regards to Lesnar ending Takers streak it was a rare moment where I really felt stunned by what happened. I went into this feeling there was no way the streak would end especially to another part timer. But as Heyman said during the build up to the match itself "all good things come to an end." And yeah i would have loved to see a newer up and comer end the streak myself (Bray being a prime candidate in my opinion).

I'm curious about where they'll go with Daniel Bryan now that he's won the title. Let alone will this whole "Yes Movement" continue to be strong or will we start to see some kind of backlash on him from the IWC that for a long time has backed him?

 
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I think that's been the tradition-loser(if he somes in with the title) cashes in rematch clause at the next ppv. Though if they want to make Raw really hot they could have him try and cash it in tonight. Though my guess is he'll feud with Orton and Cena over the next couple months then face Brock at Summerslam.

 
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Erad30 said:
I think that's been the tradition-loser(if he somes in with the title) cashes in rematch clause at the next ppv. Though if they want to make Raw really hot they could have him try and cash it in tonight. Though my guess is he'll feud with Orton and Cena over the next couple months then face Brock at Summerslam.
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Yeah, I think it pretty much comes down to what the plan with Lesner is... If he still around for the next PPV I can see the Authority telling Orton, "Tough, Brock is what is best for business." (There has been rumors of Orton turning face... Not something I wish to see TBH but I would love to see Orton cast away from the Authority so he can stop being so sniveling like he has been of late.)

Bray vs Taker, would have been awesome... and if Bray really wanted to kill a legend wouldn't it have been a better choice? But like someone said... I'm not sure any up and comer should have ended the streak. Anyone who did end it wouldn't have felt much love from the audience. (aka if the crowd didn't forgive being the person to break the streak could very much have be a curse.)

 
[quote name="MushaOne" post="11672846" timestamp="1396872354"]Yea, the Shields match.

This WrestleMania was great from start to finish.

Undertaker losing was the best thing for everyone. Now next year when he wrestles Sting it wont be so obvious who will win, Im sure Undertaker will win and then HOPEFULLY retire. People saying they should have had some young guy end the streak are just wrong. Look back at all the young guys who they could have had end it, Ken Kennedy, MVP, Sheamus... with someone not established ending it you risk some guy who never lives up to his potential ending the streak. Having Brock end it was great. It was a huge surprise. He is established so if he retires tomorrow its no big deal. The way he left WWE the first time made me think there was no way theyd let him end it but that just added to the shock.

A few questions; At the HoF there was an old lady sitting with Cena, and then at Mania she was sitting near Warriors family. Who was she? Also, who were the two girls who came in to celebrate with Bryan at the end?

Edit: I guess it was Bryans sister and niece. Still dont know who the old lady was, Cenas mom maybe? Mr Ts mom!?[/quote]

Taker's match was the worst for me not because he lost, but it was boring and I expected a lot more (action) from this match.


 
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So here are my thoughts since I was mostly occupied during last night:

Hall of Fame

Lita - Both she and Trish rambled for most of their speeches. By far the most awkward and uninteresting portion.

Jake Roberts - Unbelievable. His speech was really deep and heartfelt.

Mr. T - Nice guy but it was more of a sermon than an acceptance speech.

Paul Bearer - It was nice. Nothing too spectacular as they had to kayfabe it up at every chance.

Razor Ramon - While not as deep as Jake's, his still was pretty powerful. I'm glad he got to show up this year.

Carlos Colon - OMG Carlito. It overshadowed his father's speech but THAT was a pipe bomb. Not the scripted shit that CM Punk used to do.

Warrior - Sad. He seems to have a lot of regrets and also doesn't seem to realize how out of touch he is.

WrestleMania

Four Way Tag - Irrelevant until the end. I'm glad they finally split Cesaro and Swagger.

Bryan/HHH - Everything clicked for this match. You had HHH bringing his A+ game, Bryan was hot, and Stephanie was so perfect outside the ring.

Shield vs. Kane and Outlaws- Standard fare but still entertaining. I thought they did a good job of cutting off the NAO entrance because it would have gotten a face reaction.

Andre Battle Royal - It was a little telegraphed that Cesaro would win since he was the only person who had a second match on the card but it was good nonetheless. Star was definitely Kofi Kingston. True Holy Shit moment.

Cena vs. Wyatt - It told a nice story. I'm still very impressed by Bray Wyatt in the ring in terms of skill and charisma.

Brock vs. Undertaker - I was groaning/disinterested the whole time this was on. I kept thinking the Undertaker should have retired years ago. When he lost, I was legit shocked like everyone else. Kudos to WWE for keeping this under wraps.

Divas Invitiational - A fun little mess of a match. Some of these girls were doing moves you'd never see in a men's match.

Bryan/Orton/Batista - That powerbomb/neckbreaker through the table was SICK. It was a normal table bump for Bryan but Orton landing on that monitor was so gross to watch. He deserves to be commended for continuing the match.

 
Went through the matches and no doubt my favorite match was the Battle Royal. While we've seen Big Show lifted before with John Cena, it was amazing to see Cesaro lift Big Show and have him sit on ONE SHOULDER. That was an incredible moment added with the handshake at the end.

Regarding Undertaker's loss: I'm more sad than angry. To be fair, they've been playing out the "Undertaker is getting weaker" angle since his fight with Triple H at WM 27. Hell, you could even make the case that Undertaker never got revenge on The Shield for the massive beatdown he received. But I'm calling that laziness on WWE's part for not going through with it.

It was "the worst match" but not a bad match. I saw more offense from Lesnar here than his match with Triple H where he just suplexed him the entire time. He's a big guy and fairly young so I can live with him getting the win. It's a shocking moment, but time will go by and people will move on. Plus, you guys probably don't know this but Muscle and Fitness had an article on Brock Lesnar in 2008 while he was in the UFC. It said that the only person in WWE he still talked to was Undertaker. So obviously they are friends.

As for where they go from here: Tonight, I'm thinking Lesnar and Heyman end the show (D Bri as new champ opening). They go on to say something about beating everybody and that introduces Sting or someone we haven't heard from in a long time to start feuding with Lesnar. It would be poetic since Lesnar made his return on Raw the night after a WM as well. I say Sting just to make it a way to face UT later at WM 31. I'd be funny/cool to see Sting call out Undertaker for a series of weeks/months with people not knowing when Undertaker will finally acknowledge him (Undertaker battling his own demons perhaps?).

As far as Cena and Wyatt goes ...

renique46 said:
Too bad no matter what happens by the end of July it'll be LOL CENA WINS as usual.
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This honestly made me more angry than the streak ending. Same old shit indeed.

diddy310 said:
To go with the thread title: I can't believe they did the "Angry John Cena picks up the stairs" bit again. Every single time they do the "Will Cena go over the edge" angle he does that.
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So much for "ruthless aggression".

I would have loved to have seen a DQ win to let this feud go longer. This would lead to an eventual Cena turn as a Wyatt member and the guy who could face Undertaker at WM 31 and possibly end his streak (he could even leave the Wyatts but still adapt some of the same behaviors). Take all the lessons from the Rock-Cena feud and Nexus feud and find a way to make it work. Guess they'll never learn.

Even when Cena debuted that night against Kurt Angle (back when Cena actually had moves), he met Undertaker and shook his hand backstage. So much potential plus they could hype content on the WWE Network at the same time. Speaking of WWE Network ...

benjamouth said:
Booking decisions aside I really enjoyed Wrestlemania 30 and the Network stood up pretty well, so kudos to them for that.

I hope the Network is doing the numbers they need it to cos it's a great deal IMO.
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Glad to hear the network ran so well for you guys. That makes my decision to get it later that much easier.

IIRC, the number of subscribers will be announced tonight. Hope they made their 2 million goal.

 
I'm betting Brock doesn't stick around for next month's PPV.  He is your network re-up attraction for Summerslam vs. Bryan.  Playing off of the hammer shot I think Triple H/Bryan 2 with the belt on the line is the way to go at Extreme Rules.  Plus Jersey will be going nuts for Bryan.

As for Orton/Batista I hope they keep them paired up in the Two Man Power Trip/Rated RKO manner.  Maybe have those 2 vs. The Shield?

Predictions for tonight anyone?

I'm going with Big E dropping the belt to Rusev.  BIg E's reign is done, Rusev gets to dominate for a month before starting a feud with our Real American Swiss Superman once he's done with Swagger.

 
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Bryan/Orton/Batista - That powerbomb/neckbreaker through the table was SICK. It was a normal table bump for Bryan but Orton landing on that monitor was so gross to watch. He deserves to be commended for continuing the match.
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Any reports on how Orton is doing? That bloody cut on his back looked nasty.

 
RoytheRobot said:
Taker's match was the worst for me not because he lost, but it was boring and I expected a lot more (action) from this match.
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Based on their past Hell in a Cell match I can see how you could expect more from it. But looking at Undertaker the last 3 years, hes become more and more fragile every time I didnt expect much from this match. That may be the difference.

As for the WWE Network, I tried to watch it on the Xbox 360, I had the preshow on and it would just skip every 30-45 seconds. Its connected with an ethernet cable so wasnt an internet issue. Ended up watching the show through my Roku and didnt have a single problem with it. I expected a ton of problems but they really got it up and ready and working well. Kudos for that.

 
Taker needed to retire long time ago.  So the streak ending last night was great for business.  It's getting buzz and I think the brand is better off benefitting from a Taker loss than another round of "Taker looks old and nothing else" take on his annual match.  I'm interested in Raw tonight. 
 
I look at Taker's WM streak now just like Goldberg's undefeated streak. Where you knew it had to end, but it felt they had the wrong person end the streak. But it was supposedly Taker that's said since 2010 that he wanted Lesnar to be the one to end it. So I guess if we want to be pissed at someone, it'd be Taker for allowing Lesnar to end it. But at this point it was probably one of those "I'm getting too old for this $hit" things for Taker.

Although it would've been obvious, it felt like Taker's match should've been the last match. As that loss really ruined the mood for the world title match after words(couldn't care less about the Divas match).

Also numbers for WWE Network sign-ups were released and seem to have caused their stock to tumble because of it.

WWE stock is currently down over $5 per share after WWE released the numbers for the WWE Network this morning. As noted, they are currently at 667,287, not including potential failures to comply with subscription terms and six month commitment.
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So they're a little more than halfway at the point they said they need to be at to make up for some cable/satellite providers dropping WWE PPVs.

Also Jeff Jarrett announced his new wrestling promotion this morning. It's called "Global Force Wrestling" They're supposed to make some more announcements concerning the company in the upcoming weeks.

http://www.sbnation.com/2014/4/7/5582796/jeff-jarrett-new-wrestling-promotion-logo

Funny thing is that the story only mentions him wanting to compete with WWE, not TNA.

 
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Also, Ezekiel Jackson's contract expired last night and he has left the WWE. 

...I'll be interested to see what Christian decides to do since he wasn't cleared last night to compete in the Battle Royal. I like the guy, but I hope he retires. He's just too injury prone.

 
You know, people bitch when there's no kayfabe anymore but then you have Undertaker going up against one of the most physically intimidating opponents he's ever faced. A guy who is a UFC champion, amateur and professional wrestler with achievements in both. For all intents and purposes, a real beast. How many of those people are bitching now about Takers streak ending to a guy 13 years his junior with that kind of power.

If you don't look at history, the future of the business or anything else, who else would you look to in ending the streak. A guy who is an absolute behemoth. It's about as kayfabe as you can get in wrestling.

Now if we do end up getting Taker-Sting next year we can get a match that isn't just about the streak.
 
It's going to pretty funny when Jarrett strips TNA clean and they have to run main events of Gunner vs. Rockstar Spud.

 
KaneRobot said:
...I was really kind of hoping Bryan would do the corny Hogan style thing where he's dead on the stretcher, but then gives a faint "...yesss..." point, which he then continues to do over and over getting stronger, until he pulls himself off the stretcher and charges back into the ring.

Yeah, because it's not like CM Punk would leave the company or anything.

To answer the question: because CM Punk was a year ago and maybe Undertaker didn't feel like he was done then. A year is a long time, especially when Taker got injured AFTER the Punk match while fighting The Shield.

I didn't think I would be OK with Taker losing, but now that it actually happened I totally am. I get, and can somewhat agree with, the people who are whining about it should have been Reigns or Bray or whatever, but Brock was not a bad choice. Yes he's part time, but unless your name is McMahon, you could be gone from the company by this time next year. Heck, Lesnar himself did the superpush/OK I'm gone thing.

Got news for you - Reigns, et al are going to be main eventers whether they break the streak or not. Lesnar (like Angle, who was rumored to be one of Taker's choices to end the streak several years ago) is a believable guy who will likely now have a huge year where he wins the title and builds to the biggest David and Goliath main event ever, which will serve to get Bryan over even more. Daniel Bryan beating Brock Lesnar for the title is big. Daniel Bryan beating Brock Lesnar, destroyer of the streak, for the WWE title is bigger.

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I've seen a theory floated now that Undertaker "called an audible" during the match and decided to lose. So yeah, wrestling fans are still generally really stupid. "BUT HIS MUSIC DIDN'T PLAY IMMEDIATELY" - yes, because the immediate crowd reaction was what was important there. "BUT HEYMAN AND LESNAR LOOKED SHOCKED." fucking really? Christ.
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Point taken but Punk left because he disagreed with the path of the company, not because he lost his smile and left to try football, fail, go wrestle in Japan, then bolt to UFC.

If Punk had won last year people wouldn't have all the conspiracy theories that are going around now, it would just be "well Taker is passing the torch to the new locker room leader."

If Chicago Raw was the door closing on Punk coming back, then Wrestlemania was the restraining order being filed.

Bryan, Cesaro, & The Shield will keep me watching YT WWE videos, but they aren't going to get any money from me unless it's a clearance DVD sale.
 
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Say what you will about Punk, he's kept out of the limelight, hasn't said a word, since leaving the company. Ironically, no 'pipebombs' since leaving. Sounds like he made his money and didn't want to continue. Good on him for that.

 
Cage017 said:
Went through the matches and no doubt my favorite match was the Battle Royal. While we've seen Big Show lifted before with John Cena, it was amazing to see Cesaro lift Big Show and have him sit on ONE SHOULDER. That was an incredible moment added with the handshake at the end.


Regarding Undertaker's loss: I'm more sad than angry. To be fair, they've been playing out the "Undertaker is getting weaker" angle since his fight with Triple H at WM 27. Hell, you could even make the case that Undertaker never got revenge on The Shield for the massive beatdown he received. But I'm calling that laziness on WWE's part for not going through with it.

It was "the worst match" but not a bad match. I saw more offense from Lesnar here than his match with Triple H where he just suplexed him the entire time. He's a big guy and fairly young so I can live with him getting the win. It's a shocking moment, but time will go by and people will move on. Plus, you guys probably don't know this but Muscle and Fitness had an article on Brock Lesnar in 2008 while he was in the UFC. It said that the only person in WWE he still talked to was Undertaker. So obviously they are friends.

As for where they go from here: Tonight, I'm thinking Lesnar and Heyman end the show (D Bri as new champ opening). They go on to say something about beating everybody and that introduces Sting or someone we haven't heard from in a long time to start feuding with Lesnar. It would be poetic since Lesnar made his return on Raw the night after a WM as well. I say Sting just to make it a way to face UT later at WM 31. I'd be funny/cool to see Sting call out Undertaker for a series of weeks/months with people not knowing when Undertaker will finally acknowledge him (Undertaker battling his own demons perhaps?).

As far as Cena and Wyatt goes ...


This honestly made me more angry than the streak ending. Same old shit indeed.

So much for "ruthless aggression".

I would have loved to have seen a DQ win to let this feud go longer. This would lead to an eventual Cena turn as a Wyatt member and the guy who could face Undertaker at WM 31 and possibly end his streak (he could even leave the Wyatts but still adapt some of the same behaviors). Take all the lessons from the Rock-Cena feud and Nexus feud and find a way to make it work. Guess they'll never learn.

Even when Cena debuted that night against Kurt Angle (back when Cena actually had moves), he met Undertaker and shook his hand backstage. So much potential plus they could hype content on the WWE Network at the same time. Speaking of WWE Network ...

Glad to hear the network ran so well for you guys. That makes my decision to get it later that much easier.

IIRC, the number of subscribers will be announced tonight. Hope they made their 2 million goal.
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Well something happened after 08 as there's the video of them staring each other down in one of Brock's last UFC losses.
 
RedvsBlue said:
Now if we do end up getting Taker-Sting next year we can get a match that isn't just about the streak.
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Yeah, it will be about two guys taking up 20 minutes who shouldn't go over 5 at this point. Reality check: Taker's beat up and done. People who watch(ed) TNA were saying the same thing about Sting. There's nothing left in their tanks. They have Hall of Fame careers and that is where they both belong. They don't need a match to tarnish it.
 
Now that I've had a good night's sleep and let everything steel in, I still think that was a fantastic show last night. About Taker/Lesnar, I'm not so much upset that the streak ended (though to be fair I wanted it to stand because The Streak has always been Taker's thing), just that the match was a total shitshow. It was sloppy and slow and devoid of any real excitement.

Aside from that, still the best Wrestlemania in years. I'll be more than happy to rewatch it again in a few months.

 
So, not having seen the match yet, was UT/Lesnar better or worse than Lesnar/Goldberg from WMXX?

Granted, age was not a factor in the XX match, but apathy (and a wonderfully hostile crowd) were factors.

 
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So they're a little more than halfway at the point they said they need to be at to make up for some cable/satellite providers dropping WWE PPVs.
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Wow, those are some horrible numbers... :whistle2:(

I guess I shouldn't get use to watching PPV events as the network's days have got to be numbered and I'm just not going to pay 50-60 dollars a month for PPV.

 
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INMATEofARKHAM said:
Wow, those are some horrible numbers... :whistle2:(

I guess I shouldn't get use to watching PPV events as the network's days have got to be numbered and I'm just not going to pay 50-60 dollars a month for PPV.
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Really, 2/3s of a way to a million customers in a months time is horrible and you think it's already over? I think that's fantastic for them. They have yet to expand into other nations. Mania streamed flawlessly for me. This is the future.
 
Well the problem is that going in, nothing about WM30 excited me. I thought it would be SOS. I also don't regularly watch so I wasn't hyped up for Bryan's possible win. Then there's the fact that you couldn't use the XBox 360 app for a while (and I'm not even sure if there's one for the X1 yet). There also wasn't any way I was paying $10 a month for 6 months to be able to watch edited events on the same internet where I can find the original airings for free.

That means they have to get subs from their regular viewers who either don't have the resources to watch or are too glib to figure it out. The price is right, the value is there for a casual fan or even a hardcore fan without discerning taste, and there's a number of ways to get it. They only can "bring a horse to water" though.

 
KaneRobot said:
Got news for you - Reigns, et al are going to be main eventers whether they break the streak or not. Lesnar (like Angle, who was rumored to be one of Taker's choices to end the streak several years ago) is a believable guy who will likely now have a huge year ....

Daniel Bryan beating Brock Lesnar, destroyer of the streak, for the WWE title is bigger.

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I've seen a theory floated now that Undertaker "called an audible" during the match and decided to lose. So yeah, wrestling fans are still generally really stupid. "BUT HIS MUSIC DIDN'T PLAY IMMEDIATELY" - yes, because the immediate crowd reaction was what was important there. "BUT HEYMAN AND LESNAR LOOKED SHOCKED." fucking really? Christ.
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Not sure how I missed this post but I agree 100000%

Bunch of goddamn crybaby idiots. Months to years prior to WM30, quite a few people bitched that "THE STREAK SHOULD END, TAKER WINNING EVERY YEAR IS TOO PREDICTABLE" okay, SURPRISE! Now it's done. "I DON'T LIKE LESNAR BEATING THE STREAK #wewantpunk" Oh shut the fuck up.

Would these dumbasses be happier if Seth Rollins or Dolph Ziggler beat the streak? How about [we love ya Bobby!] Bobby Lashley (NO.)

Because THAT is totally believable.

 
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Really, 2/3s of a way to a million customers in a months time is horrible and you think it's already over? I think that's fantastic for them. They have yet to expand into other nations. Mania streamed flawlessly for me. This is the future.
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They need a million to break even... Anything less and they are lossing money. I think the numbers will go up but they pretty much need to double and they don't have the big push of WM now.

Trust me, I would really like to be wrong on this... Would be really happy to be wrong. Hell, I would cheer for Cena if it would help the numbers. :lol:
 
mitch079 said:
Yeah, it will be about two guys taking up 20 minutes who shouldn't go over 5 at this point. Reality check: Taker's beat up and done. People who watch(ed) TNA were saying the same thing about Sting. There's nothing left in their tanks. They have Hall of Fame careers and that is where they both belong. They don't need a match to tarnish it.
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I dont think Sting ever was that great in the ring, and his TNA stuff he doesnt really seem to care. Even if its a bad match, I still want to see Sting wrestle at least ONCE in the WWE. Hopefully, Undertaker retires, and maybe we can get Rock vs Sting or Cena vs Sting. He can then retire, go in the Hall of Fame.

Those WWE Network numbers really arent so great. I doubt this is going anywhere because everyone who has the Network, myself included, seemingly loves it. I just worry the price will go up to $14.99 or $19.99 once the initial 6 month lump deal is over with. I will gladly still pay that, but $9.99 is just such a great deal I will be sad to see it go.

 
Long term I think the Network will be fine. The stubborn people who won't buy the Network because of CM Punk leaving, Cena breathing, Taker losing, or whatever stupid reason they can come up with won't effect the numbers much at all -- they are a minority.

EDIT: Found this entertaining. Some good ones mixed in there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoJgJJfggJE

 
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Taker/Sting (if it's going to happen) now has the benefit of not having to be what the last 6 Streak matches were at least.  

Network numbers seem fine to me though I think seeing that number versus the PPV buyrate will be more interesting.

 
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They only plan to reach a million by the end 2014. Most likely fiscal 2014. If they are over halfway there less than two months in, I think they are doing fine, the numbers will probably jump significantly with every big ppv (i.e. Summerslam, Survivor Series, next year's rumble) and they'll make it easy. They might even do it by Summerslam.

 
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Yeah, it will be about two guys taking up 20 minutes who shouldn't go over 5 at this point. Reality check: Taker's beat up and done. People who watch(ed) TNA were saying the same thing about Sting. There's nothing left in their tanks. They have Hall of Fame careers and that is where they both belong. They don't need a match to tarnish it.
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Oh, let me be clear, I'm not saying they should, or even will, have a match next year. I think they're both past their prime and should hang it up. If they do have a match though, at least it can be about something other than just "the streak".
 
HydroX said:
Not sure how I missed this post but I agree 100000%

Bunch of goddamn crybaby idiots. Months to years prior to WM30, quite a few people bitched that "THE STREAK SHOULD END, TAKER WINNING EVERY YEAR IS TOO PREDICTABLE" okay, SURPRISE! Now it's done. "I DON'T LIKE LESNAR BEATING THE STREAK #wewantpunk" Oh shut the fuck up.

Would these dumbasses be happier if Seth Rollins or Dolph Ziggler beat the streak? How about [we love ya Bobby!] Bobby Lashley (NO.)

Because THAT is totally believable.
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I never said I wanted the Streak to end, but if you're going to do it it should be someone like Punk, Cena, Bryan, or a young guy like Reigns, Cesaro, etc.

I'd be happier if Sting had ended it next year, & I'm not a Sting fan. Don't think Lesnar deserves this rub.
 
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