The Fall 2010 Television Thread

I think Outsourced is a hilarious concept. I think the first episode was remarkably restrained in it's ethnic jokes. They were there, but I think they were restrained (in comparison to what you normally get on TV with regards to 'foreigners' and the like). That cow thing for instance could have been MUCH worse. The turban thing could have spiraled way out of control. If they reign in the top 10% of the most offensive jokes they used and keep everything else. It could be a decent show.

Not better than Community but it could be good.

This will never happen. I fully expect the jokes to get worse (slowly) and the show to not do well.
 
[quote name='Cantatus']My new favorite show this year is quickly becoming Raising Hope on FOX. I really recommend it for anyone who likes dark comedies. It's written by the same guy who created My Name is Earl, and I've seen people compare it to Malcolm in the Middle. Best new comedy for sure.

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hmm, i dismissed it right off the bat, but maybe ill give it a shot. im sure i could "find" the first two episodes somewhere.
 
Anyone see Drew Carey on Community? Dude's lost a ton of weight. Good for him.

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[quote name='NeoFrank1']Anyone see Drew Carey on Community? Dude's lost a ton of weight. Good for him.

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Wow! He doesn't even look like the same person.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']ABC has canceled My Generation.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='javeryh']Damn. The networks have absolutely ZERO patience these days. How do they ever expect to grow a show?[/QUOTE]

It's becoming more cutthroat. I can almost guarantee, that CBS will cancel Shit My Dad Says. Everyone has shit on that show.

Anyone checked out Detroit 187? Have it recorded, but been too busy to watch it.
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']It's becoming more cutthroat. I can almost guarantee, that CBS will cancel Shit My Dad Says. Everyone has shit on that show.[/QUOTE]

Seeing that Shit My Dad Says did a 6.1 rating this week it'll take a good amount of time before its axed. Sadly Outsourced did a decent 3.4 so its not in danger of getting axed.... yet. How the fuck Outsourced is doing better than Community is beyond me.... and I didn't care much for Community but at least it doesn't offend me like Outsourced does.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']Seeing that Shit My Dad Says did a 6.1 rating this week it'll take a good amount of time before its axed. Sadly Outsourced did a decent 3.4 so its not in danger of getting axed.... yet. [/QUOTE]


Shit My Dad Says has some real potential IMO. The best thing about the first episode was the exchange between him and the DMV guy. I don't know who that guy was but I'd like to see him as a recurring character in some way.

I like Shatner in the lead role, but I can't recall the last time a lead in a network show was 79 years old. It's a risk. I still remember Redd Foxx dying after six episodes while shooting Royal Family years ago.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']How the fuck Outsourced is doing better than Community is beyond me.... and I didn't care much for Community but at least it doesn't offend me like Outsourced does.[/QUOTE]

The only reason it's doing better is due to having a better time slot. If NBC swapped the slots, Outsourced would be canceled soon.

As for $@#$ My Dad Says, Guile pretty summed up why I've watched it the last two weeks. Although it can be dry on comedy sometimes, the show does have potential. I can see it lasting for at least another season. I did notice that Community took at jab at the show last week with that "Old Man Says" twitter joke and saying that turning it into a show would be a bad idea.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']Seeing that Shit My Dad Says did a 6.1 rating this week it'll take a good amount of time before its axed. Sadly Outsourced did a decent 3.4 so its not in danger of getting axed.... yet. How the fuck Outsourced is doing better than Community is beyond me.... and I didn't care much for Community but at least it doesn't offend me like Outsourced does.[/QUOTE]

Hadn't looked at ratings yet. Just knew a few people that reviewed said it sucked. I may be confusing it with another show.
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']Hadn't looked at ratings yet. Just knew a few people that reviewed said it sucked. I may be confusing it with another show.[/QUOTE]

No you aren't confusing it with another show. Outsourced is all together awful. From the horrible stereotypes on the show, the bad acting, lame dialog, and just in general a terrible concept to have a show (especially a comedy) that's about jobs being outsourced to another country given how things are here in America with our own unemployment rate which is partly due to this.

In general this show needs to die a sudden and painful death. I'm hoping with the new blood taking over NBC that they'll realize shows like Outsourced is a bad idea to have on and will simply pull the plug on the show regardless of ratings.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']No you aren't confusing it with another show. Outsourced is all together awful. From the horrible stereotypes on the show, the bad acting, lame dialog, and just in general a terrible concept to have a show (especially a comedy) that's about jobs being outsourced to another country given how things are here in America with our own unemployment rate which is partly due to this.

In general this show needs to die a sudden and painful death. I'm hoping with the new blood taking over NBC that they'll realize shows like Outsourced is a bad idea to have on and will simply pull the plug on the show regardless of ratings.[/QUOTE]

Was referring to Shit My Dad Says, but Outsourced did get hammered too. Like someone else mentioned, flip it with Community and it dies against Greys and CSI.
 
Supernatural is coming along well, I'm so happy that Sam and Dean are back together again. Hearing "Smoke on the Water" as Dean uncovered the good ole Impala at the end of second episode was great! I'm really wondering who Samuel was talking to on the phone and why they want these creatures "collected".
 
I watched about 5 minutes of Outsourced before I rolled my eyes and changed the channel. The stereotypes didn't offend me so much as the horribly cliche plot elements and dialog. The reason its doing as well as it is, is quite simple really, the Office lead-in.

I'm actually starting to like Community more than the Office, not as much as It's Always Sunny and The League but still, the show is growing on me. They better give it a shot at a better time slot rather than summarily cancelling it.
 
I think Outsourced had the funniest opening this week. Say what you will about the rest of the show that whisper scream was lol funny.

I stand by Outsourced as a concept. It could be hilarious but episode 2 like i expected slide farther down the bad path. It's not JUST the racial stuff but that's there too. I didn't think it was possible but they have a show set in India and the Indians are still the wacky foreigners. I know comedies aren't about logic but wow that's bold. They got one more shot to bring it around and then I'm out. I expect to be out.

[quote name='pitfallharry219']ABC has canceled My Generation.[/QUOTE]they canceled what? stop making up show names.
 
[quote name='Wolfkin']I stand by Outsourced as a concept. It could be hilarious but episode 2 like i expected slide farther down the bad path. It's not JUST the racial stuff but that's there too. I didn't think it was possible but they have a show set in India and the Indians are still the wacky foreigners. I know comedies aren't about logic but wow that's bold. They got one more shot to bring it around and then I'm out. I expect to be out.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's one of the problems I have with the show. Very few sitcoms are set in other countries. This would've allowed them to do some new and creative stuff, but instead they chose to fall back on the same-old tropes. If you didn't know otherwise, you could easily be led to believe that the plot for this show is that a bunch of Indians are transplanted to America to learn our ways under their new boss.

I'm sort of hoping that as the season goes on they'll explore Todd being the fish-out-of-water, but considering everything Indian is made to seem wacky and out of place, I don't see how they can do both without it feeling very disconnected.
 
:shake: I mean the food alone. Sure 'indian food gives you the runs' joke is sorta funny if old if you can do it right but he's trying to blend in and he's still calling the food by color? I mean good grief it would have been less offensive if he just called everything Curry This and Curry That.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']How the fuck Outsourced is doing better than Community is beyond me....[/QUOTE]

Community is against the CBS power Big Bang Theory (if I recall correctly, had the most viewers for all shows during the week) and also against Bones. There was no way it was going to get ratings between those two forces. It would easily fair better if it was at 9:30, which Outsourced is.

Outsource sucks. It has to be one of the next shows to be cancelled. Detroit 187 should be in that same boat.
 
Fringe premiere was awesome! Second episode of the season was also great. I always find myself finding Fringe one of the hardest and most frustrating shows to gauge on TV. When it's on, it's full of such great suspense, mystery, intrigue, and action. When it's off and becomes a formulaic monster of the week type show, I become bored to death.

If memory serves correctly, I believe both the first and second seasons got off to strong starts, became weak towards the middle, and had excellent ends. So here's to hoping season 3 is very consistent. With the new "alternate" storylines to work with this season, hopefully there's enough material there to keep things interesting for the entire season.
 
[quote name='Wolfkin']I like the monster of the week stories. As long as the monsters are intersting and for me I've enjoyed them.[/QUOTE]

Same here. There's pretty much nothing Fringe can do wrong these days, IMO. It is my favorite show right now.
 
@Wolfkin: Compared to other tv shows, they're nothing exceptionally poor, I guess. I just love the over arching themes that the show introduces and most of the cooler motifs of the show aren't expressed as well when it goes monster of the week route, imho. The character development in Fringe has been great, and that still shines through in all episodes. Fringe is one of a handful of shows that I watch religiously the night it airs, so that is definitely saying something for me.
 
you know I hesitate to say Fringe is one of my favorite shows on the air.. but now that I think about it whenever I have it ready to watch I'm always excited and I almost always save it for last so I don't end the night on disappointment. guesss that makes it favorite.
 
so the craziest thing just happened. Basically I was going thru my download folder and noticed a new episode of "Outsourced" some of you may recall I was going to give it 3 episodes and then call it quits. I just finished the third episode and realized I wasn't seething with annoyance. Episode three was actually not bad. I dare say good. They had their anti-arranged marriage thing but I would never expect a NA show to take the opposite stance so barring that there wasn't too many jokes at India's expense. I've been having a debate with my sister over which girl is supposed to be the romantic interest for white guy. Either pretty white girl or pretty indian girl. If the rest of the episodes are as good as this I may actually stick with it as a third tier show
 
I'm surprised at supernatural still going.. I'm even more surprised at how bloody awesome it is. Weekend at Bobby's was great to say the least. At this point I'm more worried about Chuck running out of fuel than Supernatural.
 
[quote name='lordopus99']Community is against the CBS power Big Bang Theory (if I recall correctly, had the most viewers for all shows during the week) and also against Bones. There was no way it was going to get ratings between those two forces. It would easily fair better if it was at 9:30, which Outsourced is.

Outsource sucks. It has to be one of the next shows to be cancelled. Detroit 187 should be in that same boat.[/QUOTE]

I love Community and Big Bang Theory, tried Outsourced but didn't make it past episode 2.
 
[quote name='Wolfkin']I'm surprised at supernatural still going.. I'm even more surprised at how bloody awesome it is. Weekend at Bobby's was great to say the least. At this point I'm more worried about Chuck running out of fuel than Supernatural.[/QUOTE]

I hope Supernatural gets another season. However, if it does it's likely different lead characters. Not sure how I would like that.

[quote name='shrike4242']Chuck gets picked up for a full season (Scorch posted this in the Chuck! thread):

http://www.collider.com/2010/10/18/nbc-chuck-full-season-four-order/

I guess NBC didn't have anything to fill in the gaps that the back 9 episodes would have had.

Also nice to know that The Event did get picked up for a full season. Guess I'll start picking that up again on the DVR.[/QUOTE]

Damn, how did I miss the chuck thread? Good to hear though.
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']I hope Supernatural gets another season. However, if it does it's likely different lead characters. Not sure how I would like that.[/QUOTE]Let's talk about Season 8 of the X-Files, which had one new main character, and Season 9, which had the same new main character and another new main character. There's a reason why they canned it on Season 9, since it was pretty bad.

From what I've read of Supernatural (and I'm a few seasons behind, though have up it on DVD or BR), it was supposed to be a five season show. If they're in Season 6 of a five season show design, this would be the point that they should think hard about dragging it out for another season. Smallvile is getting long in the tooth and is about 1-2 seasons beyond where it should have been.
 
[quote name='shrike4242']Let's talk about Season 8 of the X-Files, which had one new main character, and Season 9, which had the same new main character and another new main character. There's a reason why they canned it on Season 9, since it was pretty bad.

From what I've read of Supernatural (and I'm a few seasons behind, though have up it on DVD or BR), it was supposed to be a five season show. If they're in Season 6 of a five season show design, this would be the point that they should think hard about dragging it out for another season. Smallvile is getting long in the tooth and is about 1-2 seasons beyond where it should have been.[/QUOTE]

Yeah. Though, I think this new season's angle could lead to more, if played out right. I just don't want it to end, if it's still quality.

Smallville, is a guilty pleasure. Would love for them to finally get a young Batman/Bruce Wayne show going. Or end Smallville with him meeting Bruce, through Oliver or something. I want superhero shows!
 
[quote name='shrike4242']From what I've read of Supernatural (and I'm a few seasons behind, though have up it on DVD or BR), it was supposed to be a five season show. If they're in Season 6 of a five season show design, this would be the point that they should think hard about dragging it out for another season. Smallvile is getting long in the tooth and is about 1-2 seasons beyond where it should have been.[/QUOTE]dunno if it was supposed to be six seasons from the get go but it was clear that they were prepared to end it on 6. Kinda like Chuck went all out on the back end of season 2? with the wedding and 'Dad' and all that jazz. Each season of Supernatural had bigger stakes, like Buffy. Buffy's ending should have been the death of the slayer, Supernatural's should have been a literal biblical apocalypse. Interesting, both shows have primary character deaths at the end and both shows had unexplained resurrections in the over season.

again I really don't see how any stakes could compare to an apocalypse but the writing is still top notch more so than Buffy's over seasons IMO. (then again we haven't gotten TOO far into it.)

how many shows have ever survived character transitions? I can't think of any show right now that wasn't a spinoff and had it's major players change and was still awesome.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']Last night's episode of The Event was the best yet. I'm glad it's been picked up for the whole season.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, the show definitely has my interest now!

[quote name='Wolfkin']I'm surprised at supernatural still going.. I'm even more surprised at how bloody awesome it is. Weekend at Bobby's was great to say the least. At this point I'm more worried about Chuck running out of fuel than Supernatural.[/QUOTE]

Completely agree, Weekend at Bobby's was awesome I loved how every time he just wanted to try the baked dish from that chick somebody would call.

[quote name='craven_fiend']I hope Supernatural gets another season. However, if it does it's likely different lead characters. Not sure how I would like that.

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Depending on what happens this season it could work but, I'm just glad the show is back to the Supernatural we know and love. I can't wait for this weeks episode Live Free or Twihard :lol:


Sons of Anarchy is really picking up steam!

It's Always Sunny in Philly started slow but, it's back to form.

Modern Family is still hilarious.

The Good Guys is good for what it is, a parody of buddy cop shows.

Dexter is starting to pickup as well.

Boardwalk Empire is great!
 
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[quote name='Wolfkin']how many shows have ever survived character transitions? I can't think of any show right now that wasn't a spinoff and had it's major players change and was still awesome.[/QUOTE]

Cheers is the only one I can think of right now where a main character left a hugely successful show and it went on to become on even more popular.
 
[quote name='javeryh']Anyone watching Caprica? It is really really great. It is a shame that the ratings are so low.[/QUOTE]I watched the first episode and was very impressed with it. I have the other two pending to be watched on one of my DVRs. SG:U is also pending a watch of all four episodes.
 
[quote name='shrike4242']I watched the first episode and was very impressed with it. I have the other two pending to be watched on one of my DVRs. SG:U is also pending a watch of all four episodes.[/QUOTE]

I haven't watched last night's episode yet but Episode 2 (of Season 1.5) was fantastic. This is like my dream show - I always thought it would be really cool to do a drama (or even a comedy but that would be harder to pull off) in a sci-fi setting but not have the show actually be sci-fi (if that makes any sense).
 
[quote name='javeryh']I haven't watched last night's episode yet but Episode 2 (of Season 1.5) was fantastic. This is like my dream show - I always thought it would be really cool to do a drama (or even a comedy but that would be harder to pull off) in a sci-fi setting but not have the show actually be sci-fi (if that makes any sense).[/QUOTE]As long as they keep the plots focused like they started to do in the first episode, I think it'll do well for the rest of the season.

The first half had moments of good TV and other times when it was nothing but a muddled mess.
 
[quote name='javeryh']Cheers is the only one I can think of right now where a main character left a hugely successful show and it went on to become on even more popular.[/QUOTE]no i mean specifically not spinoffs. There have been plenty of great spin-offs.

I mean for instance there have been lots of shows where the main cast is completely different but it's never been good past that. X-File was one examples. Saved by the Bell sorta might count with the 'new class' stuff. Oh oh oh.. actually the only example I can think of a TV show where the main cast changed and it was still popular is Power Rangers. But that's not exactly great television.

Never finished BSG but maybe i should get back into that and see if I'll like Caprica after.
 
[quote name='Wolfkin']no i mean specifically not spinoffs. There have been plenty of great spin-offs.

I mean for instance there have been lots of shows where the main cast is completely different but it's never been good past that. X-File was one examples. Saved by the Bell sorta might count with the 'new class' stuff. Oh oh oh.. actually the only example I can think of a TV show where the main cast changed and it was still popular is Power Rangers. But that's not exactly great television.

Never finished BSG but maybe i should get back into that and see if I'll like Caprica after.[/QUOTE]

Cheers wasn't a spinoff - Shelley Long left the show after season 5 after winning the Emmy for best lead actress or something and the show was consistently #3 or #4 in the overall rankings. She had top billing with Ted Danson. They replaced her with Kirstie Ally and the show went on to become #1.
 
oh wow I clearly didn't read your full post because obviously I was talking about Frasier.

I wouldn't count Cheers because that was more of a single person exchange. Plenty of shows survive a single person alteration. Bewitched for instance. Wasn't there a show where David Spade was the new cousin or was that 8 things? I was thinking of more the inverse. like if everyone changed but maybe one person remained.
 
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how many shows have ever survived character transitions? I can't think of any show right now that wasn't a spinoff and had it's major players change and was still awesome.[/QUOTE]

I can't really think of any but, the one to watch right now is CSI.
 
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