The Killer Kowalski Memorial (and George Steele) Wrestling Thread

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Ah. Well, so much for Foley in TNA. I mean, these guys had to have at least some idea that he might be making his way to the company... yet, they don't have anything ready for him?

It just reminds of Booker T WAY too much. Build him up, bring him in, do nothing with him. If TNA isn't going to give up on overpaying and overhyping these ex-WWE guys, the least they could do is attempt to SHOW us why they're still relevant, as opposed to continually only telling us.

Sorry, this is just a bit much. I've always wanted TNA to succeed on some level, but they've just been going downhill for so long now that it's actually sad to turn on Impact anymore. Instead of two hours of wrestling, it feels like just watching two hours of missed opportunities.

Anyway, the Foley quote might be misleading, but if it's verbatim, then I give up hope entirely.
 
[quote name='JJSP']Is there really any logical place for Foley in TNA right now?[/quote]


In Don West's seat. :whistle2:# hehehe
 
[quote name='JJSP']Is there really any logical place for Foley in TNA right now?[/QUOTE]

Does there really need to be one? Why can't he just show up, cut a face promo bashing the WWE, have a heel interupt him and build off that?

OR if they must have him in a crazy russo-style story, have Sting beat up Jim Cornette because he want to run TNA. Dixie Carter then comes out and makes an 5-man six sides of steel ultimate King Of The Mountain Match for control of TNA. Have Foley be the secret 6th man who comes out from under the ring to steal the victory from Sting. This puts him in control of TNA and leads to a Foley & Face Group Vs Sting & Heel group battling for the fate of TNA. This can all be done within the first hour of impact 3 weeks from now.
 
Booker in TNA seems like a fair comparison - he, like Booker, probably won't lose much gimmick-wise in the move, but after watching Impact last night...yeah...I have even less faith in TNA using Foley correctly unless he has complete creative control over his character, which, given his long history of concussions, is far from a sure-fire guarantee that things will go well. I could see Foley fitting into the old vs. new guard storyline, possibly as a peacemaker at first, then siding with whatever side is against Joe leading to Foley vs. Joe at...some show. Probably Impact - with one week of hype.
 
Why do they have R Truth coming to the ring rapping through the crowd? It is sad because he isn't going along with the track playing in the background.
 
[quote name='JJSP']Is there really any logical place for Foley in TNA right now?[/QUOTE]

If they were smart they should let him be incorporated into the Abyss story since he wears a mask like the one Foley use to wear when he was Mankind. Also, it could help that story because there really isn't anyone else involved with Abyss outside of Matt Morgan.

Whatever happened to Dustin Rhodes and his character Black Reign?
 
He said "Edge", afterward... but that promo was ridiculously distasteful.
 
[quote name='JJSP']..."you're going to hell to meet your husband." - Undertaker, to Vickie Guerrero

Seriously, WWE?[/QUOTE]

That's so wrong I honestly LOLed at that.
 
[quote name='JJSP']..."you're going to hell to meet your husband." - Undertaker, to Vickie Guerrero

Seriously, WWE?[/quote]

I thought the same thing.
 
[quote name='Brak']Er. Wait. Is her character even married to Edge?[/quote]That's only been part of the biggest feud on Smackdown for the past 4 months at least.
 
[quote name='Genocidal']That's only been part of the biggest feud on Smackdown for the past 4 months at least.[/QUOTE]
I don't watch Smackdown.
 
If you're not watching SmackDown, you're missing out on some of WWE's best action, and easily the freshest main event scene in the company.

Tonight's show thoughts...
Not a completely great SD this week, but a good one overall. HHH's "inside" comments got old really quickly - there's a right way and a wrong way to break the fourth wall, and his long, monotonous explanation of what a promo was was the wrong way. The jab at Jeff Hardy at least made some storyline sense given that WWE.com has covered it, although I'm not a fan of taking cheap shots like that at talent. I will say that all of the stuff with Hunter did make me want to see him lose the belt, so in that regard, it was effective at making me want to see the PPV.

The scramble participant matches this week were a mixed bag, as Shelton-MVP just came to a screeching halt after some of the best mat wrestling on WWE TV this year - it worked at making Shelton seem like a threat, as MVP's matches are usually quite a bit longer on TV, and I can't recall him losing that quickly since he his first big WWE feud against Kane.

Kendrick-Hardy had some good stuff in it, but felt somewhat insignificant aside from it marking Kendrick's biggest singles win ever. Bella-Victoria had some good stuff in it, and Bella's definitely a few steps above both Maria and Maryse, who had a pretty boring match to open the show. I liked that the Bella twins at least wore completely matching outfits this week, as opposed to last week, where one had a silver belt and the other didn't. R-Truth's intro through the crowd helped him stand out, and the crowd responding is a good sign. The match itself was just a basic squash match - nothing special or memorable about it any way, except for J.R. going WHAT'S UP and responding with "word" when Tazz asked him if he was a hip-hop fan. J.R. ruled tonight.

The Vickie-Taker stuff really didn't do anything for me - these two have zero chemistry together, but I liked her interaction with both Show and Kozlov, with each man appearing like they were seconds away from just hauling off and knocking her out. Kozlov getting a gigantic cityscape of Moscow for his bottom tron video rules, and I liked that Crazy kind of got a bit of a push tonight...before getting killed by Kozlov. It gave me hope that they'll eventually use him in a U.S. title-level role, although with that belt once again rising to main event status after a brief stint right back into mid-card hell when Matt held it, I'll likely be waiting a long while before that happens.

Quotes -
HHH - This Sunday, I will defend the WWE Title in the first-ever championshp scramble match! Now despite the fact that sounds like something you’d order at Denny’s, it could be the most difficult challenge I’ve ever faced. There’ll be five guys in this, scratching and clawing, hoping they can make it the 20 minute time limit and walk out as WWE Champion. Now Styles and his team of WWE.com nerds have informed me that that gives me about an 80% chance that I will lose the title on Sunday. Now I’ve never been great at math, but I believe that gives me…
Shelton - THIS MATCH IS NOT ABOUT YOU! This match is a crap shoot for everyone involved, so the way I see it, you’re gonna need a little luck and a lot of talent to win! When it comes talent, I’M THE GOLD STANDARD, and I plan to add a little gold to my collection this Sunday. You’re doubting me, right? Lemme remind you of who it was who dropped Jeff Hardy and MVP last week, and most importantly, let me bring your attention who dropped YOU LAST WEEK!
HHH - That’s really cool, it’s especially cool how you left out right before that, I had beaten you. I’ll hand it to you - that makes you an excellent cheap shot artist. You’re very good at it, but since you’re so good at dropping people, put the mic down and try me face-to-face.
MVP - Time out, you can put that on pause right now - let’s get one thing straight, ain’t none of y’all leaving as champion, because the king of bling is better than the king of kings, the charismatic enigma, whatever that means, THE Brian Kendrick, and the so-called Gold Standard - you’re more like fool’s gold to me. All you did was show you taking a cheap shot at me after my match.
Shelton - When I hit you with Paydirt, that was PAYBACK for you hitting me with the drive-by!
MVP - That was accidental…
HHH - Guys, stop, how long have the two of you been here? It’s been quite a while, right? What part don’t you get? It’s simple - lemme explain how it works - this is the week before a PPV - I come to the ring, talk about defending my title at the PPV, that’s called “a promo”. At that point, while I’m cutting my promo, you guys interrupt me, you walk down here and talk a whole bunch of trash you know you can’t back up. I take the mic and insult you, and probably your family, to the point where you get upset, try to beat me up, and then I beat the crap out of you and we don’t see ya the rest of the night! Now, it’s a very simple formula, and you guys…not…you…none of this is ringing a bell to ya. I swear to you I’m gonna be champion ‘til like the next century. What don’t you guys get? Here’s the thing - you guys just go ahead…(Kendrick comes out and attacks him)
R-Truth - ST. LOUIS, SAY WHAT’S UP! YOU CAN GET WITH THIS OR YOU CAN GET WITH THAT, THE WWE - THIS IS WHERE IT’S AT! YOU GONNA POP LIKE A PIMPLE AND I HAVEN’T EVEN STARTED YET! THE WWE - THIS IS WHERE IT’S AT!
Tazz - J.R., I know you’re a big hip-hop fan.
J.R. - Word. .
J.R. - There’s been a lot of great wrestlers out of Robbinsdale, MN - including Mr. Perfect. Bam Neely, officially, the bodyguard of Chavo Guerrero.
R-Truth (to crowd) - WHAT’S UP! (crowd responds in kind)
Tazz - I KNOW WHAT’S UP, IT’S R-TRUTH! Come on, J.R.
J.R. - WHAT’S UP! I’ll work on that.
Taker - They say the anticipation of death is far worse than the death itself. I’m gonna let you decide, Vickie Guerrero, because at Unforgiven, I am coming for your soul! So until Sunday, I’m gonna leave you with a few things to think about. I want you to think about my hand squeezing your throat until the strength leaves your body. I want you to think about your cold, lifeless body being confined to a mahogany prison that is your coffin! And as you lay there gasping for air, I will set that coffin ablaze and that is when your lungs will begin to fill with the smell of your own burning flesh! And that earthly inferno will descend you to the fiery bowels of HADES WHERE YOU CAN REJOIN YOUR ACCURSED HUSBAND, EDGE! I promise, Vickie Guerrero, endless agony and an eternity in HELL!
Shelton - Gold, it’s an element both precious and pure. There is no talent more pure and precious than me. I am the Gold Standard.
Tazz - Shelton jumps up…like Spider-Man!
J.R. - Spider-Man just got taken down by his cape!
Tazz - Spider-Man doesn’t wear a cape, but I get your point.
Maria - There’s nothing wrong with my clothes.
Maryse - There’s nothing right.
J.R. - Tazz, you interviewed Maryse last week, and I could tell it drove you banana…
Tazz - Earlier, Maryse busted on Maria’s outfit, and well…have you ever busted on a woman’s outfit?
Tazz - Maryse with a camel clutch - the Iron Sheik would be jealous.
J.R. - The Iron Sheik never looked like Maryse - not that we know anyway.
J.R. - I’d love to know the true relationship between THE Brian Kendrick and Ezekiel Jackson. I should probably just forget about that one.
J.R. - The back of Kendrick’s head hurts, and now, so does the front! And yes, that’s the face!
Tazz - Yup.
(after kicking Crazy)Kozlov - YOU’RE NOT COMPETITION! NO MORE GAMES! I DEMAND BETTER CHALLENGE! (Big Show comes out)
J.R. - BETTER CHALLENGE? HOW ABOUT A MUCH BIGGER CHALLENGE!?
Show - So you want a challenge? Now I understand it’s hard for you to get one, with our GM, it’s probably just an oversight. Well, you want more competition, and I’m feeling competitive too - how about we go at it right now? What about it, big guy? (Kozlov puts mic down)
Vickie - STOP! I SAID STOP! Vladimir, get out of my ring! ENOUGH! GET OUT OF MY RING! As for you, Big Show, you have interfered with my show for the last time! Not one, not one more distraction or I SWEAR, if you thought I was unfair last time, you haven’t seen nothing yet! Now tonight, I have business to take care of in this ring, so I suggest you get out and go home! I SUGGEST THAT YOU FOLLOW MY ADVICE, OR ELSE I WILL FINE YOU AND SUSPEND YOU INDEFINITELY! And Big Show, I guarantee you, this is not an oversight. GET OUT!
Tazz - She’s…angry!
Vickie - Can I have everybody quiet please? (crowd boos loudly) EXCUSE ME! I have an announcement FOR THE UNDERTAKER! THE DEAD MAN! (crowd boos louder) Undertake, I REINSTATED YOU, I POURED MY HEART OUT TO YOU, I EVEN APOLOGIZED FOR THE SINS THAT I HAVE COMMITED! AND UNDERTAKER, YOU ANSWER ME BY THREATENING MY LIFE! MAY I REMIND YOU THAT I AM THE GM OF THIS SHOW, YOU SEE, I WILL NOT BE INTIMIDATED, I WILL NOT BE SCARED, I WILL NO LONGER LIVE MY LIFE IN FEAR OF YOU, SO UNDERTAKER, YOU CAN SEND ME TO HELL, AND I’LL JOIN EDGE, AND THAT DOESN’T BOTHER ME. In my life, I have been places that make Hell look like a vacation! I HOPE YOU’RE LISTENING LOUD AND CLEAR - I will not longer be a victim of your plans for revenge - I am not scared of you. At Unforgiven, I will get what I want - you apologizing to me!
Tazz - DID SHE JUST DEMAND THE UNDERTAKER APOLOGIZE!?
J.R. - Brie Bella goes under the ring…is Hornswoggle there?
J..R - Compelling and dramatic - it’s Shawn Michaels versus Chris Jericho.
Eve - HHH, you have a couple of incredible dates ahead of you - what is your greatest concern?
HHH - My greatest concern is global warming, or possible the economy. It’s another day at the office for the WWE Champion - the list is a mile long of guys who want to knock you down. You don’t look at the list, you look at the guy facing you until you knock him down. Eve, lemme ask you a question? Do you think it’s possible for me to complete a thought before being interrupted?
Jeff - You have a huge problem come Sunday - me!
HHH -That’s interesting, Jeff, you know a lot about problems, don’t ya, Jeff. You’ve already got two strikes against ya - three strikes Jeff, and your outta the game!
Tazz - When I was driving in, I saw the St. Louis arch, and it reminded me of the Great Khali.
Tazz - For those who don’t know, in a lumberjack match, the guys on the outside are basically allowed to do whatever they want, as long as they get ya back in the ring.
J.R. - A 420 POUND SPINEBUSTER EXECUTED BY THE WWE CHAMPION!
Tazz - If this is just another day in the office, I don’t want to work in his office!

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OMG LEVIATHAN!






the writing's on the wall...


 
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[quote name='JaytheGamefan']If you're not watching SmackDown, you're missing out on some of WWE's best action, and easily the freshest main event scene in the company.[/QUOTE]

Like Triple H, Edge, and The Undertaker!
 
For a guyt getting super tubby, Super Crazy is still one hell of a "flippy guy". He slid into the ring and did some sort of forward flip off his head onto his feet. Then I just stared at his gut the whole 30 second match until a Russian guy kicked him in the face.
 
[quote name='CouRageouS']For a guyt getting super tubby, Super Crazy is still one hell of a "flippy guy". He slid into the ring and did some sort of forward flip off his head onto his feet. Then I just stared at his gut the whole 30 second match until a Russian guy kicked him in the face.[/QUOTE]
Vince?
 
In some TNA house show news, Mick Foley made his first appearance with the company on Friday night, and 3D hinted that they'd be going back to WWE by mentioning "the Dudleys". Of course, they did this AFTER winning, which would seem to hint that they're staying in TNA, but that could be a swerve (like WWE having RVD win his stretcher match against Orton before leaving). -
http://www.prowrestling.net/artman/publish/TNAliveevents/article1002679.shtml

foleytnaringll1.jpg
 
Dragon Gate is coming out with a Best Of DVD with English commentary.

This title is scheduled to ship by September 15th!!!

11.23.06 - Osaka, Japan (Osaka Prefectural Gym)

1. Ryo Saito & Genki Horiguchi vs. Shingo & Cyber Kong
2. BxB Hulk, Jushin Liger, Jack Evans & Matt Sydal vs. Naruki Doi, Masato Yoshino, Magnitude Kishiwada & Kevin Steen
3. CIMA vs. Gamma (Hair vs. Hair)
4. Susumu Yokosuka vs. Don Fujii (Open The Dream Gate Title Match)

12.22.06 - Tokyo, Japan (Korakuen Hall)

5. Gamma vs. Ryo Saito (King of the Gate Semi-Finals)
6. Masaaki Mochizuki vs. Dick Togo (King of the Gate Semi-Finals)
7. Don Fujii & Yasushi Kanda vs. BxB Hulk & Jack Evans vs. Susumu Yokosuka & K-ness vs. Genki Horiguchi & Super Shenron (Four Way Tag Team Elimination)
8. Ryo Saito vs. Masaaki Mochizuki (King of the Gate Finals)

3.25.07 - Mie, Japan (Tsu City Gym) - MEMORIAL GATE 2007

9. Matt Sydal vs. Genki Horiguchi (Open The Brave Gate Title Match)
10. Gamma, Masato Yoshino & Naruki Doi vs. CIMA, Ryo Saito & Susumu Yokosuka (Open The Triangle Gate Title Match)
11. Don Fujii vs. Jushin Liger (Open The Dream Gate Title Match)

*with english commentary
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http://www.rohwrestling.com/shoponline.asp?point=moreinfo&catid=317&id=2756
 
Well, although the show was better than I thought, Midway announced on GametrailersTV that Curry Man & Petey Williams will be the first 2 dl-able characters that will be offered for TNA Impact.

Strange thing is that during show was that they were showing Midway mapping the wrestlers. One of the ones that was being mapped in the clip was Christy Hemme. Which I guess will be another dl-able character, since I don't remember seeing her on the roster for the game.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I thought Mr. Q&A fuckup said wimmin weren't going to be in the game.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, they aren't.

If I remember right, she's a backstage interviewer or something for the career mode.
 
I thought Smackdown was really good. I think it's more fresh because we got new guys in the main event scene and that God awful Edge/Vicky storyline had kind of cooled down a bit. I can't stand Edge.I thought all of his feuds sucked and only got interesting after his thing with Foley. HHH actually made those guys look pretty good. You can actually sorta believe any one of them can win the title.

Foley should do in TNA what he did in ECW, with the whole "I hate/love WCW".
 
[quote name='guyver2077']amazing r truth entrance on smackdown[/quote]

Yeah I'm really liking him. I hope he sticks around.
 
A little off topic, but I was given the metal case and bonus disc, bonus book and card for Smackdown vs raw 2008 on PS3, should I buy a disc only copy and try to sell it, or just trade the metal case and stuff to someone?
 
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[quote name='mykevermin']Like Triple H, Edge, and The Undertaker![/quote]


One day, Kendrick, Shelton, and MVP will be the main event. :whistle2:( One day... fifteen years from now when Triple H and Edge are relegated to Ric Flair-past-his-prime-heading-towards-retirement roles. So basically, fifteen years too late. :bomb:

Well, at least WWE is seemingly giving them a "shot" to headline at Unforgiven (a card I am hyped for).

I just want to say that Ezekiel should remain a bodyguard for now. I would hate to see him steal Kendrick's thunder.
 
http://www.f4wonline.com/content/view/6646/

More on TNA building up their house show tonight by teasing that it'll reveal whether 3D stays with them or goes to WWE. There's also news about Francine's father passing away from cancer, and her sister also battling the disease. I just read about both of them suffering from it yesterday, so reading about his passing today comes a bit out of left field.
 
I wonder if Team 3-D won their lawsuit / copyright-thing against the WWE, and they're just going to start using their Dudley names again.
 
If TNA's promoting it I don't see them leaving. They make some dumb decisions but nothing that stupid ...right? On an unrelated note, any sign suggestions? I've got 'MVP King of Bling' on one side but I'm not going to let the other go to waste.
 
C'mon...the Dudley Boys? I think this is another example of WWE just using those lawyers to flex their guns, because no way in hell 3D is that big of a deal.
 
[quote name='Genocidal']If TNA's promoting it I don't see them leaving. They make some dumb decisions but nothing that stupid ...right? On an unrelated note, any sign suggestions? I've got 'MVP King of Bling' on one side but I'm not going to let the other go to waste.[/quote]


Do you want witty, funny signs that may be confiscated, or signs that may get you TV time?

Signs that may get you face time on TV:

"Thee #1 fan of thee Brian Kendrick"

"Ezekiel 25:17 says I just turned your career into pulp fiction"

"Hacksaw says Jerry loves hoooooooooooooos"

"Cody Rhodes'th ith tha sunnafa sunnafa plumba"

"Charlie haas issues"


Signs that may be confiscated:

"JR's BBQ sauce needs more palsey parsley"

"Candice's Always Cheerful United Nebraska Troop"

"Shawn Michaels, unsatisfied LaserComb user"

"Deuce snuka'ff the chopping block"


I have a few, more vulgar, examples that I didn't post just because I'm a nice guy. O:)
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']I think the Mickie James/Arby's sign was funny. Steal that idea!

Mickie James: Got Pastrami?[/quote]


Hahaha... yes, that was hilarious! :rofl:

Imagine a crowd full of those signs. That would be quite a sight to see.

Unforgiven's tomorrow. :shock:
 
I managed to pick up the Stone Cold 3-disc set earlier today for 16 bucks and just started watching it.

It's nice to see that they included some of his work with Pillman as The Hollywood Blondes in WCW and stuff from his stint in ECW as well, and not just concentrate on his time as The Ringmaster and subsequent rise to superstardom in WWE.
 
You guys ever have random wrestler's themes pop into your head for no apparent reason? I was reading news online a few minutes ago and Tracy Brooks's current TNA theme just popped into my head. I'm not even a Tracy Brooks fan...
 
[quote name='mykevermin']They'd get in deep shit for saying "The Dudley Boys" on the telly.[/QUOTE]

As I stated before, TNA's said "the Dudleys" before on Impact, and got a legal letter as a result. WWE doesn't do it based on how big a star someone is - they do it to protect their trademarks. It's smart corporate strategy because if they don't protect their trademarks, they lose their value.

It's also smart to have as many trademarks locked up as possible - WCW, for example, was horrid at doing this - they didn't trademark the Four Horsemen name during that group's '80s prime, nor did they do that for the NWO in the '90s. WWE, on the other hand, did trademark "NWO", and has kept renewing the trademark to prevent someone else from being able to legally market "NWO" things.

Here's Kurt Angle's RF Video shoot -
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YEFKB725
 
Team 3D signed new TNA contracts at the house show tonight. Like we didn't see that coming.... given that TNA did promote it as part of the show duh.
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']You guys ever have random wrestler's themes pop into your head for no apparent reason? I was reading news online a few minutes ago and Tracy Brooks's current TNA theme just popped into my head. I'm not even a Tracy Brooks fan...[/quote]

yeah, i was the bagger at work saturday afternoon (hate my job), when out of nowhere sting's old "man called sting" song hit my head to the point when i was humming it.

EDIT: watching am raw, and i must say i loved ortons promo running down every champ.
 
That's funny that this was brought up, I've had Robert Roode's theme stuck in my head all day, one of maybe 5 TNA themes that I actually like.
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']You guys ever have random wrestler's themes pop into your head for no apparent reason? I was reading news online a few minutes ago and Tracy Brooks's current TNA theme just popped into my head. I'm not even a Tracy Brooks fan...[/quote]


Lately, it's been the K-Kwik theme. However, I often find myself speaking the nWo theme, outloud, a lot.

"Dunuhnuhnuh... NUH NUH nuh-nuh nuh-nuh nuh-nuh... bah-bah-bah-bow wow-wow bah-bah bah-bah-bah wow-wow..."

^example

And Demoman, you current sig is glorious. That's how I picture Jericho in my mind now. And that's a good thing. :D
 
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