The Killer Kowalski Memorial (and George Steele) Wrestling Thread

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I guess I was right last night about Rey getting chest tattoos. Funny, since he said in his Superstar Ink article that he'd never get his chest tattooed.
 
[quote name='slidecage']anyone else think tonights raw is very bad


Then what you expect seems the big talent is too good to come to fort wayne 4 major matches. Everytime raw comes to fort wayne we get Piss ass matches and a bunch of talking .

Glad i did not waste my cash

Should knew it was bad when ticket brokers was dropping their prices by 75% just to get red of tickets today[/quote]

They always do that. 25% of asking price is better than 0% of asking price when the tickets don't sell. Not sure why I'm wasting my time, though.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']Why did you capitalize "piss"?[/QUOTE]

cause i had to take one : )


really though, it seems everytime wwe comes here we get nothing but lame matches. Even when ecw/smackdown came few years back 60% of the shows were nothing but interviews


notice our arena isnt big enough to hold the real RAW entrance .... our arena sucks.

Funny thing is they said they are trying to get a PPV here by 2012 ... Good luck it will never happen
 
Since they referred to it as a "talent exchange" and have done it 2 weeks in a row, is this officially the transition of ECW being taped before Raw and the 2 brands sharing talent rather than ECW and Smackdown?
 
This match is so pointless (Rey's obviously going to win). Why make Miz and Morrison job? :(

Then again, I'm pretty sure Rey has jobbed to Morrison in the past, so who knows?
 
[quote name='Genocidal']They always do that. 25% of asking price is better than 0% of asking price when the tickets don't sell. Not sure why I'm wasting my time, though.[/QUOTE]

not really, when concerts come though they never drop them. Its mostly just WWE you will see tickets crash. I do not know if they Demand a full arena for the events and they know the WWE will give them Full vaule or what.

I remember the ECW/Smackdown there was people outside the arena screaming


WHO NEEDS FREE TICKETS lol

even watching this Screams we look like we are in a building from the 1980s
 
Kane's promo reminded me of an Undertaker/Kane match from Summerslam(?) during the Attitude era. The match didn't go very long at all, but the entirety of the match was undertaker ripping open Kane's mask, and Kane covering his face, running to the back, and getting counted out.

I'd like to see Kane try that next week (though, of course, not have Rey lose the mask).
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Kane's promo reminded me of an Undertaker/Kane match from Summerslam(?) during the Attitude era. The match didn't go very long at all, but the entirety of the match was undertaker ripping open Kane's mask, and Kane covering his face, running to the back, and getting counted out.

I'd like to see Kane try that next week (though, of course, not have Rey lose the mask).[/QUOTE]


maybe his pants : )
 
I remember that. The crowd went nuts. IIRC, he still wore it after and it wasn't until couple years later when RVD convinced him to unmask. The open mouth Kane mask at the time was great too.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I'd like to see Kane try that next week (though, of course, not have Rey lose the mask).[/quote]

Because we all know how THAT turned out last time.
 
i like how orton slapped him in the face and dipped...

and rhodes doesn't deserve to be on my TV....PERIOD
 
[quote name='CouRageouS']I remember that. The crowd went nuts. IIRC, he still wore it after and it wasn't until couple years later when RVD convinced him to unmask. The open mouth Kane mask at the time was great too.[/QUOTE]

Yeah - it was a quick and easy way to generate interest in Kane - will he lose it now? How about now?

And the spontaneity of it all was nice, too.

I don't get Manu/DiBiase/Rhodes. Why are people trying to seek the approval of those who are complete bastards to them?
 
[quote name='Matt Young']When did Orton get a tattoo of words on the back of his right arm?[/QUOTE]

The same day he got that crappy rose?
 
Very enjoyable show - not a ton of great wrestling on it, but Bourne/Rey vs. Mizorrison was a blast, and I loved all the background info Cole provided about Bourne's history in Japan and pre-wrestling career as a marketing VP. Rey and Bourne meshed incredibly well, and I wouldn't be opposed to them being a regular team - it would be easier on Rey's body, it would elevate Evan Bourne, and they'd probably work well together in a long-term program for the tag gold.

Jericho's opening speech was excellent, and established him as THE man on Raw, while also making him a marked man at the same time. CHL was quite amusing, got over like gangbusters, and I liked how it actually served a purpose - leading to Batista mocking JBL, then leading to the main event where Batista gets beaten, and JBL proceeds to call spots with Lance Cade on-camera.

They did a good job building up next week's show - I expect HBK and Cade to get involved in some way in the main event world title match, but even with that, there's still some intrigue regarding the finish. Either man could conceivably win the match, and I like that. I'm less concerned about Rey-Kane, which FINALLY teased Kane's mask being a key point in this story, but these two don't have very good chemistry together, and Rey's basically killed Kane every time they've done battle since Rey re-returned on Raw. I could see this leading to a Rey heel turn, which would be something new for him, but I'd prefer this feud to just end as quickly as possible.

Seeing Lawler and Cole hype up Flair month on WWE 24/7 was interesting, but my favorite part of that segment was hearing Lawler tell Cole to take lessons from Bob Caudle and Gordon Solie.

Quotes -
Jericho - I am Chris Jericho - and I’m the new World heavyweight champion! For those who didn’t see Unforgiven, let me explain what happened. (fans chant “you suck”) Last night, I faced the wrath of a hypocrite named Shawn Michaels - he likes to talk about turning the other cheek, well, let me show you exactly what this “good person” did to me last night. Look at the bruises, the welts…What kind of a man would do this to another human being? What kind of person would intentionally disfigure another? Shawn Michaels, and he’s a hypocrite! He whipped me like a dog, he mauled me! All of you people savored every moment of it, didn’t ya? When all the bravado calms down, what did he win? Nothing, because his hand might’ve been raised, he’s at home celebrating with his family, but that match was an unsanctioned match - it’s not official, never really happened. What did he really accomplish? NOTHING! What did I accomplish last night? THIS! Six months ago, I told you that good things happened to good people - and I’m a good person. I’m an honest man, and now I’m the champion! After I received the brutal beating that I did not deserve, I was in the dressing room trying to stand straight and Adamle said that Orton had kicked Punk’s head off and I took his place, and now I’m in the new champion! So now not only am I the man who beat te Rock and Austin to become the first undisputed champion, now I’m the man who beat Batista, Rey, JBL, Kane to win the title again. Batista was close, but I WON! Now you’re all forced to respect just how good Chris Jericho is! Michaels told me that I would never be him - he’s right, I’m better! And I’m also the new world heavyweight champion!
Adamle - Chris, congratulations! CM Punk suffered a concussion last night and wasn’t medically cleared to compete. I had to find a championship-caliber replacement and Chris, let me say, you answered the call! But the fact remains, CM Punk lost his title without having a chance to defend it. Now CM Punk isn’t here tonight, but next week, live on Raw, he will be given a chance to regain it! It will be CM Punk versus Jericho for the world heavyweight title! And just to ensure that there is no outside interference, the match will take place inside a 15 foot high STEEL CAGE!
Jericho - You think that bothers me? I beat Punk in his hometown and I’ll beat him next week! I’ve had enough of these hypocrites, I’m gonna take this title and get outta here…
Adamle - Wait, there’s more. Since the cage match is NEXT week, I need a main event for tonight… And after what transpired last night, I can’t think of a more exciting match than Chris Jericho one on one versus BATISTA!
Lawler - Every time I see Candice, I wonder if I make more money than she can spend.
Lawler - Just for Men - stay in the game with JUST FOR MEN HAIR COLOR!
Noble - Having you at ringside last week was like Jamie Noble having his own personal lucky charm!
Layla - Yeah, you winning was…a surprise.
Noble - THAT WAS THE REAL JAMIE NOBLE! You wanna surprise? I got one (Jillian sings) Enough, I WANT MY FIVE BUCKS BACK! She told me she was a professional!
(after he mauls Noble)Regal - What did you expect Noble? Happy endings only happen in fairy tales!
Lawler - Unforgiven was one of the most…HISTORIC PPVs in WWE history - I LOVED IT!
Sign - Jello Belly Loser
CHL - MY NAME IS CHL - CHARLES HAAS LAYFIELD, AND I’M A BIG TEXAS BLOWHARD WHO LIVES IN NEW YAWK CITY! YEE HAW! I’M RICH, MY WIFE’S RICH, EVEN MY DOG’S RICH! MAMAJUANAEXTREME.COM AND I WAS THE LONGEST REIGNING WWE CHAMPION ON SMACKDOWN! AND I LOVE TO HEAR MYSELF TALK! MAMAJUANA, JAMAUMANA! BLAH BLAH BLAH!
JBL (fans chant CHL) - YOU, ARE MOCKING ME!? YOU’VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME! YOU THINK THIS IS FUNNY!? YOU THINK THAT I, WITH MY PEDIGREE, WITH MY RESUME! AM SOME OVER THE TOP RIDICULOUS CARICITURE, YOU THINK THAT’S WHAT I AM!? YOU DISRESPECTFUL PUNK! I DESERVE BETTER THAN THIS! WHETHER YU LIKE ME OR HATE ME, YOU WILL RESPECT ME! I DESERVE THAT!
Cole - JBL looks...floored.
Lilian - HERE IS YOUR WINNER - CHL - CHARLIE HAAS LAYFIELD!
Cole - I CAN’T WAIT TO SEE BOURNE AND MYSTERIO - TWO OF WWE’S MOST SWASHBUCKLING SUPERSTARS, TEAM UP!
JBL - What are you laughing it?
Batista - MAMAJUANAEXTREME.COM! It’s funny.
JBL - You off all people should know how absurd it is for Haas to make fun of me! WE’RE BOTH FORMER CHAMPIONS, YOU AND I BOTH MAIN EVENTED SUMMERSLAM! Haas and I have NOTHING IN COMMON!
Batista - You’re right - you and Haas have nothing in common - he won his match tonight.
Grisham - Do you know why Kane attacked me?
Kane - I don’t know, and he attacked me without no warning! Because of his actions, I had to take some time off, but I vowed to never let what Kane did to me happen again. If I’m on Raw, I need to stand strong. Kane, you claim that I’m your victim - well despite of what you claim, saying that you killed my spirit - I’M STANDING RIGHT HERE AND STRONG! MY SPIRIT IS STILL ALIVE! I may always be an underdog, but please believe Kane, I’M NOBODY’S VICTIM!
Cole - Bourne told me that this is a dream come true - Rey, along with Eddie Guerrero and Dean Malenko inspired him to get into sports entertainment. Evan Bourne learned his craft in Japan, and before that, he was a marketing vice president!
Cole - The Miz said his shorts cost $1,000.
Lawler - WHAT?!
Lawler - I think we were about to see the shooting star press that Evan Bourne made famous…
Sign (as Orton comes out) - BOO!
Orton - THERE IS NO WORSE FEELING than to be on a global stage, with the title IN YOUR GRASP, only for tragedy to strike - leaving you unable to compete. I’m not talking about CM Punk - I’m talking about myself. A few months ago, I broke my collarbone in a match against HHH, leaving me defenseless and unable to defend my title. The difference between Punk and myself is that I EARNED MY TITLE - I WON MY WRESTLEMANIA MATCH, HE JUST GOT LUCKY and karma got him. He was taken out by a one-armed man, and as I explained to Adamle, I felt concerned for my safety. Punk should thank me from kicking in his face because it saved him from being exposed in the scramble. Now I ask Jericho, you feel free to thank me any time you want, because if It wasn’t for me, you wouldn’t have been in the scramble, and you sure as hell wouldn’t be champion! When I’m fully recovered, I will have no problem and taking back what is mine. When I do…(Priceless comes out)
Cody - CM Punk got taken out by…who? A one-armed man? Randy, you need to check your facts - if the three of us hadn’t done what we did, you wouldn’t have been able to punt Punk. We beat him down, we took out Kofi when he tried to help, so don’t YOU DARE TAKE CREDIT FOR SOMETHING you didn’t do.
Manu - You’re not the only one who was blessed with God-given talent and ability - whose father is a hall of famer. My father, Afa is one as well. You’re not any better than any one of us.
DiBiase - What we did to CM Punk was impressive, and that’s something that… (Orton slaps him down and leaves)
(after Gordon Solie and Bob Caudle are heard on 24/7 classics clip)Lawler - Did you hear those great commentators? You should take notes.
Santino - TANK YOU VERY MUCH! I PRESENT TO YOU THE HOMECOMING PAIR! ACCORDING TO THE HONK-A-METER, THE MOUNTIE ONLY HAD THE TITLE FOR A DAY, AND I’VE HAD IT FOR 19 DAYS LONGER!I’M 19 TIMES BETTER THAN HIM! I hope you’re impressed Randy Orton - because THAT’S IMPRESSIVE! I’M THE GREATEST INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPION OF ALL THE TIMES!
Cole - Snitsky’s no Mountie.
Jericho - Adamle, THIS IS UNFAIR, I wrestled in two matches last night - I’m in no mental or physical shape to wrestle tonight against Batista.
Adamle - I did you a favor by putting you in the scramble last night, tonight, I’m calling In a favor - you’re going to put on a main event-caliber performance. Next.
Adamle - Stop the match - Batista, I’m sorry. I’m learning on the job and in my haste to make a big main event. I probably misdiagnosed the condition of Jericho. I need a match that is star-driven and competitive, so I’ve decided to make the next match a handicap match! It’ll be you, Batista against Jericho and his partner - John Bradshaw Layfield!
(to Batista)JBL - WHO YA LAUGHING AT NOW!? NOBODY LAUGHS AT ME! PIECE OF GARBAGE! (to Cade) SHOOT HIM OFF, SHOOT HIM OFF!

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Stunning


The man who is 19 times greater than THE MOUNTIE (who is handsome, brave, and strong!)






 
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[quote name='Matt Young']I can't wait for a gif of Batista's reaction.[/QUOTE]:cool:
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[quote name='Matt Young']After approximately 84 botched spots, Beth wins wins by stealing Hardcore Holly's finisher.[/QUOTE]Candice jinxed the match by sitting at ringside!
 
The TNA game sounds a lot like WCW Nitro to me (limited movesets, matches, etc). Luckily, I didn't run out an buy TNA like I did Nitro on its release day.
 
Sounds more like World Tour.

Nothing can be as bad as Nitro.
 
[quote name='bornrunnin31']The TNA game sounds a lot like WCW Nitro to me (limited movesets, matches, etc). Luckily, I didn't run out an buy TNA like I did Nitro on its release day.[/quote]

It's a surprise attack!
 
I'm having WCW/nWo Thunder flashbacks while reading about TNA Impact.

And I just wanted to say that I'm real glad to see Jericho finally reaching his full potential. Praise the great panda god in the sky that he didn't wind up on the same show as Triple H.
 
crap.. didnt notice tickets went on sale for a tna live event here...

edit- ordered tickets.. front row!!

Even though I occasionally drive to orlando to see them. its a pain in the ass to stand in lines etc for hours.. i always said id rather pay and be guaranteed my seat!!
 
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[quote name='mykevermin']:rofl: at the Mark Henry gif.[/quote]


Hahaha... that is hilarious, Busta. When I get home, I need to save those GIFs. Man, the look on Batista's face is fantastic. :lol:
 
The look on Batista's face is great, but I kept expecting/wanting him to beat down Jericho in frustration rather then just sit there looking stunned.
 
[quote name='chasemurata']I'm having WCW/nWo Thunder flashbacks while reading about TNA Impact.[/quote]

But at least Thunder had a cage match. Reading the review on IGN, sounds like the reviewer knew during the interview a couple weeks ago that it was going to be bad.

As for Jericho, seems like they're going to do the same thing they did when he was the undisputed WWE champion. Have him win the title by a fluke, then somehow keep the title against all odds. Hopefully Triple H won't ruin this title run.
 
Indeed, Tangy. Those Midway reps could not have sounded less confident in their product. They held up a fly-swatter and deflected questions as though they were killer flies about to feast on their flesh.

Jericho's title reign is similar to his Undisputed WWE championship reign. But it's just so much greater, in my honest opinion, because they built him up as an incredible mega-heel.

What worries me is when Cena returns. I hope they do not kill Jericho's mega-heel status by having Cena bury him in a feud. I'm still wondering who they'll have Jericho feud with. I like diddy's theory that Afa, Jr., Cody Rhodes, and Ted, Jr. will turn on Randy Orton and align themselves with Chris Jericho. Followed by Jericho disowning Lance Cade. That could set up a very interesting feud between, mega-heel, Jericho and, tweener, Randy Orton.

After the way WWE has treated CM Punk, I cannot say I see Punk feuding with Jericho over the World title. Cena is a possibility, but man, that could either be real bad or real good for Jericho (depending how they handle things). If Cena squashes Jericho, it would be bad. However, if they're able to transfer the spirit of the Michaels/Jericho feud into a Cena/Jericho feud, it could further establish Jericho as the company's top heel.

Which, of course, would be followed by Triple H moving over the Raw and killing all of Jericho's credibility.
 
Maybe Trips will tear his shit once again. I don't like the idea of him getting injured because I don't personally dislike the guy but in terms of guys I enjoy seeing in main event matches, Triple H is just about at the very bottom of that list (aside from some obvious choices like Khali).
 
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[quote name='mykevermin']http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/01/sports/01kowalski.html

Great obit from the NY Times on Kowalski. He was a vegetarian for almost 60 years. Wow.

Sounds like a helluva dude all around. And he certainly trained some excellent wrestlers.[/quote]


Thanks for the link, Myke.

“There was this 6-foot-5, 280-pound guy, his head wrapped like a mummy, dwarfing his bed,” Kowalski said. “I looked at him and grinned. He grinned back. I laughed, and he laughed back. Then I laughed harder and left.

“The next day the headlines read, ‘Kowalski Visits Yukon in the Hospital and Laughs.’ And when I climbed into the ring that night, the crowd called out, ‘You animal, you killer.’ And the name stuck.”
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I just felt quoting that bit was important to this tribute thread. It's a bit of history that pro-wrestling fans should know.

Kowalski sounded like a great guy. I wish I had a chance to meet him. May he rest in peace.
 
I thought the bit about him wanting to be a photographer was touching and sad, since he could never stand at ringside and take action shots due to his infamy.
 
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