The "WWE doesn't use 'Wrestling' anymore, so TNA is #1 by default" Wrestling Thread

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Jesus Christ could Evan Bourne be forced to job any harder. Took Ziggler 20 minutes to pin him and another 20 for the ref to start the count.
 
That bit with R-Truth was good, but it would have been great if Cena replaced Morrison during that.

And I thought they were chanting "WATAH, WATAH".
 
Looking forward to watching that's what I am on Netflix party watch w/ kanerobot and solidous (sp?) .. If it's a limited theater engagement April 29, should be on Netflix by the end of May!
 
This still makes me laugh, in Cleveland a few years ago, Edge got beaten down by Batista and the Brothers of Destruction, and after everyone left, Edge got a mic and said "AND THE BROWNS STILL SUCK" then threw it down and stormed out.

Nice Figures, Inc. championship belt that anyone can buy. At least put a freakin' backing on it.
 
Sin Cara's entrance looked awesome and they're still pushing him as a huge deal who is something special. Thank God. It's also kinda neat to see the two biggest wrestling draws in the past half-decade team up.
 
[quote name='Scorch']Looking forward to watching that's what I am on Netflix party watch w/ kanerobot and solidous (sp?) .. If it's a limited theater engagement April 29, should be on Netflix by the end of May![/QUOTE]

I think I'm actually going to see it at a theater. Legendary had showings nearby and then one of the 8 theaters showing Triple H's movie was in the city I work, but now the new movie is going to be there too. I figure it's worth it just to see if anyone else is actually in the theater, heh.
 
Pro-tip: if John Cena has just shoulder-blocked you twice, don't try and punch him immediatly afterwards. He likely would have no idea what to do next.

You're welcome, entire WWE roster.
 
What would happen if Sin Cara was drafted to Smackdown? He'd keep appearing on both brands like he already does anyway. I loved the draft when it mattered.

I missed the Awesome Kong promo last week. You're all right, that was awesome.
 
And the crowd goes...back to their seats from the loo.

You know, I feel a lot like John Cena's five moves of doom as I do military first person shooters.
 
Are people really upset that Angle did the RKO when weeks ago when Orton did the Angle slam everyone said it wasn't a big deal?

Regardless of what he said on twitter, that's retarded. He did exactly what I would have done. Called him out on it and then got him back.

If ANYONE from TNA would have done let's say Taker's ropewalk move or did the RIP pin, you guys would have flipped your shit.
 
[quote name='Trakan']Are people really upset that Angle did the RKO when weeks ago when Orton did the Angle slam everyone said it wasn't a big deal?

Regardless of what he said on twitter, that's retarded. He did exactly what I would have done. Called him out on it and then got him back.

If ANYONE from TNA would have done let's say Taker's ropewalk move or did the RIP pin, you guys would have flipped your shit.[/QUOTE]

Its the fact that he tried to make a big deal out of it in the first place. Then when he realized no one sided with him so he played the hacked twitter card and then ends up doing the same thing he got so butthurt about in the first place.
 
Orton has done the Angle slam for MONTHS - Angle only noticed it because it was done at 'Mania, and he's tried to make a mountain out of a molehill. He'll let it go right around the time he has his first MMA match.
 
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[quote name='Scorch']JR's the only member of both the kiss my ass and kiss my foot club.

Why does he agree to do these angles?[/QUOTE]

I was wondering the same thing. Why does this guy always get stuck kissing other men's body parts?

See WWE, this is why you're not the #1 wrestling company anymore.
 
[quote name='Survivalism']Do European promotions do terrible and offensive President Obama skits when they come to the States?[/QUOTE]
You haven't seen BBC America's Queen Liz commercials, have you?
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Its the fact that he tried to make a big deal out of it in the first place. Then when he realized no one sided with him so he played the hacked twitter card and then ends up doing the same thing he got so butthurt about in the first place.[/QUOTE]

I can't fault him too much. That Jack Swagger dude has ripped the shit out of Angle's gimmick. The tights, the finisher, the gimmick. No one knows or cares about that dude though. People know Orton so it makes sense to go after the bigger target.

I know that he stole the Ankle Lock from Shamrock, but he didn't deebo the stuff. He also didn't use it til Shamrock was pretty much done wrestling.
 
[quote name='Clak']Man Ed Harris must need work...[/QUOTE]

You would think he could live off of Apollo 13 residuals.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']I can't fault him too much. That Jack Swagger dude has ripped the shit out of Angle's gimmick. The tights, the finisher, the gimmick. No one knows or cares about that dude though. People know Orton so it makes sense to go after the bigger target.[/QUOTE]

Swagger is definitely Angle Jr. I can agree with that. The issue though is that Angle asked for his release from WWE which they granted him only to have him spit in their face by signing a deal with TNA.

Now he's trying to make it all about him and how they're just upset that he left. In his mind I bet he thinks Vince himself told Orton to go out there and use the Angle slam. I have no idea if they care or not but he's the one who wanted to leave, which they granted based on claims of his health being in jeopardy only to have him sign with the "rival" a few weeks later.

The real reason I'm thinking he's so butthurt? Most recently when his contract with TNA was close to expiring I'm betting he made a call to WWE and they responded with "not interested" so now he feels like he's the jilted lover when in reality he's the one who burned the bridge all on his own.
 
Angle says he asked for his release, but he didn't - they released him and he was incredibly bitter afterwards. If he'd asked for his release, he'd have had no reason to be so bitter.
 
[quote name='Chronis']old school Nexus[/QUOTE]

no.

[quote name='Demolition Man']"Who are ya" is a soccer chant aimed towards belittling opponents.[/QUOTE]

yes.

Also, there's a lot of Angle hate here I don't get. Orton got a receipt. Big deal.
 
Also, am I the only one here who sees virtually nothing of value in Randy Orton? I can appreciate his Jake The Snake style interviews, but virtually nothing else about him is unique or amazing. There's not a single Randy Orton match I can think of where I think "man, that shit was classic; I've GOT to go back and rewatch that." In fact, there's not a Randy Orton match I can think of, period, that's worth a fuck.

Maybe that's the drawback of "from out of nowhere" finishers. Nothing the person does in the match has any relevance, because we're all waiting for the finisher to come from out of nowhere. There's nothing to build to, no crescendo, no anticipation - you can't anticipate a finisher that's so spontaneous.

I guess. I think dude is overrated like a motherfuckin' Foo Fighters album.
 
Outside of the pointless Cole thing that was a pretty good show. Curious if they are thinking about turning Punk face what with the little tease between him and Mason and R Truth being the cigarette smoking heel. Might as well have the Nexus go back to Barrett since they seem to be breaking up The Corre.
 
This was a dreadful show. Truth's turn took HALF AN HOUR to do. Flair and Ted Sr. were able to tell a brilliant story in an hour. These two told the same anti-smoking story you see in those stupid "y smoke" ads that take up 30 seconds and stretched it out just a wee bit. HALF OF A fuckING HOUR was devoted to him turning heel. It's a heel turn revolving around drinking water (and I expect a water bottle to be a great prop for him) and smoking. Truth showed some fantastic intensity at times and made some funny faces, but the whole deal just went on and on and would not end. It took them half an hour to get maybe 30 seconds of footage for a recap package. Impact openings have annoyed me far less - at least those don't have John Morrison cutting a promo. Cole's knighting also took eons to finish. Bobby Eaton's was far better, less hokey, and at least involved William Regal being wacky. Speaking of him, WHY WAS HE NOT ON THIS SHOW!? Come on - Regal-Danielson. Why not? The UK shows basically mean nothing anyway, so at least give them time to have a great match. Instead, we get 30 minutes of Truth-Morrison in some form, seemingly 20 or so on Cole, and a Punk-Orton match that dragged on.

Cole ranted about how cerebral Punk is, and spouted off the usual bullshit about Orton. Punk and Orton had what I assume is their usual house show match when both men are ill and can't do much. They did basically nothing here at all. I was begging for a Nexus run-in so MICHAEL MCGICUTTY could make things exciting. Shockingly, he didn't, but thankfully Mason Ryan brought the awesome with goofy faces. I enjoyed Sin Cara and Cena as a team - the two biggest draws of the last half decade teaming up was neat to see and Sin Cara FINALLY came off like a huge star on Raw even with them not editing some awkward stuff. Oh, and Sheamus squashed Santino in a match that went on much longer than it needed to, but at least featured Santino not being able to do the cobra due to being too hurt, and Dolph Ziggler has new, dark hair to make sure he won't stand out at all. If you missed the show, just watch the Raw rebound - it'll show everything remotely good on this one. And the Cole skit.

Screens -

NICOTREL SAYS STOP SMOKING!


















Quotes -
Cole - PREPARE FOR A JOLLY GOOD TIME ON RAW!
Truth - I had problems y’all.
Truth - I’m not perfect, but I AM THE TRUTH!
Morrison - I’m happy for ya.
Truth - THANK YA THANK YA THANK YA THANK YA!
Morrison - You didn’t mention that you were hanging out with lady luck.
Truth - What? I’m married!
Morrison - You were lucky to get through those matches given the shape you’re in.
Truth - I’m in the best shape of my life.
Morrison - Well, we’ve got some footage you might wanna check out.
Cole - HE TOOK A DRINK OF WATER IN THE MIDDLE OF A MATCH!? WHEN HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THAT!?
Morrison - You’re in good shape…for a smoker.
Truth - Okay, I been trying to quit.
Morrison - It doesn’t make you a bad guy, but it may shorten your life.
Truth - HE’S TRYING TO GET IN MY HEAD SO HE CAN TAKE MY SHOT AND BECOME WWE CHAMPION.
Morrison - YOU’RE ON!
Truth - ON WHAT!
Morrison - THE WWE DRAFT IS NEXT WEEK AND THIS COULD BE THE LAST TIME THAT JOHN MORRISON AND R-TRUTH WRESTLE FOR YOUR SPOT AT THE PPV!
Truth - ANYBODY GOT A CIGARETTE!?
Morrison - You forgot to ask for the most important thing - LUCK!
Cole - IF MORRISON WINS, HE’LL TAKE R-TRUTH’S SPOT IN THE MAIN EVENT OF EXTREME RULES!
J.R. - Yes, we know. It’s only a 2 hour program.
Cole - WHEN YOU COME BACK FROM A MATCH, YOU RESET THE SCENE!
J.R. - I’d take half the time.
King - Ow.
Cole - THAT’S GREAT COMMENTARY KING, OW!
Cole - J.R., you’re half a second late out here.
King - I think it might be the smell coming from that box.
Cole - THAT’S A GOOD ONE!
King - Why don’t you try to be entertaining instead of annoying?
Cole - I THINK TRUTH IS SUCKING WIND!
King - You’d know a lot about sucking.
Cole - R-TRUTH’S DREAM JUST WENT DOWN THE TUBES IN TEN MINUTES! GOOD MOVE, TRUTH!
Cole - Truth’s opportunity WENT UP IN SMOKE!
Crowd - WATER! WATER!
Crowd - R-TRUTH SUCKS!
Truth - YOU DID THIS, JOHN! YOU DID THIS! (hits paydirt)
Crowd - WHO ARE YA?!
(as Truth smokes in the arena)Crowd - THAT’S ILLEGAL! THAT’S ILLEGAL!
Guy - THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
Vickie - EXCUSE ME! THIS IS MY BUSINESS ASSOCIATE, THE NEW AND IMPROVED DOLPH ZIGGLER! (with NEW HAIRCUT and dark hair)
King - I wouldn’t have recognized him.
Vickie - FINISH HIM!
King - Don’t give Dolph a minute.
King - It’s available for PS3, Xbox 360, PS2, PSP, and Wii. WII!
Cole - TONIGHT, IT’S SIR MICHAEL COLE!
King - Edge forced to retire due to a spinal injury.
Miz - For seven days, I’ve been preparing physically and mentally for a triple threat match with Cena and Truth. BUT NOW, EARLIER TONIGHT, TRUTH, WHICH SHOULD COME AS A SHOCK, MAKE A RASH, ILLOGICAL AND DISRESPECTFUL DECISION. What he doesn’t realize is that his actions affect ME more than anyone else. NOW INSTEAD OF FACING CENA AND A HIP-HOP REFUGEE, I HAVE TO FACE CENA AND MORRISON AND DO IT IN A STEEL CAGE! Where you can win by pinfall, submission, or escaping the cage. I COULD BE EXCAPING THE CAGE AND CENA COLD PIN MORRISON. Or I could pin Cena and Morrison escapes the cage. I DON’T HAVE TO BE DEFEATED TO LOSE MY CHAMPIONSHIP! I WILL NOT LEAVE THIS RING UNTIL THE RAW GM MAKES THIS RIGHT. ALEX, GET ME A CHAIR!
King - BORING! BORING!
J.R. - We’re back and Miz has been talking the whole time.
Cole - I WISH EVERYONE WOULD BE QUIET AND LISTEN TO THIS MAN!
Miz - AT THE END OF THE MATCH, I WILL STILL BE WWE CHAMPION!
King - Okay, so get out of the ring.
Miz - BECAUSE I’M THE MIZ AND I’M …(Sin Cara comes out)
Crowd - SIN CARA! SIN CARA! (Cena comes out, crowd boos)
Cole - CAN I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE!?
King - Can we say no?
Cole - I have received an e-mail ON MY IPAD. AND I QUOTE! There will now be a tag team match. Alex Riley and the Miz team up to face Sin Cara and John Cena. And that match starts now.
King - Do you wear the glasses in case you get in a fight?
Cole - I’VE BEEN WEARING THEM FOR A YEAR. Glad you could notice.
J.R. - CENA AND SIN CARA TEAMING UP FOR THE FIRST TIME.
King - What if you get drafted to Smackdown?
Cole - I’D DO MY JOB AND NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT IT!
Cole - I don’t need to worry about being drafted - I’m on both shows anyway.
J.R. - Sin Cara is being tested as he has yet to be tested in his WWE career.
Cole - SEE YA LATER SIR BILL GATES!
Cole - ENOUGH OF THIS. LET’S GET TO THE MAIN COURSE. OF COURSE, NEXT WEEK, IT’S THE WWE DRAFT, SO IT’S ONLY APPROPRIATE THAT I’LL GO NOWHERE ANY SUPERSTAR HAS GONE BEFORE. IN TWO WEEKS, IT WILL BE THE ROYAL WEDDING, AND IN A COUPLE MINUTES, I’LL BE KNIGHTED SIR MICHAEL COLE!
Cole - CAN I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE. PLEASE WELCOME MY TRAINER. My friend. AND THE MAN THAT IS GOING TO TEAM WITH ME TO DEFEAT JERRY LAWLER AND JR! THE ALL-AMERICAN AMERICAN, JACK SWAGGER!
Swagger - HERE HE, HEREYE! TONIGHT, THE WWE UNIVERSE WILL WITNESS A BRAVE, GENUINE AND NOBLE MAN TAKE THE NEXT STEP IN HIS HALL OF FAME CAREER. AFTER TONIGHT, HE WILL NO LONGER BE KNOWN AS MR. WRESTLEMANIA, BUT AS SIR MICHAEL COLE. TONIGHT, THE WWE UNIVERSE WILL WITNESS THE FIRST-EVER KNIGHTING CEREMONY. AND WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, PLEASE WELCOME HER ROYAL MAJESTY, QUEEN ELIZABETH.
Queen - Ladies and gentlemen, we are gathered here to celebrate the specimen that is Michael Cole. Do you promise to honor, defend, and uphold the faith of the United Kingdom?
Cole - I DO!
Cole - SIR MICHAEL COLE! SIR MICHAEL COLE!
Crowd - SUCKS!
Cole - YOU SHOULD BE SILENT BECAUSE YOU’RE MY PEASANTS. And now that I’m royalty, I think we should make a couple of peasants, namely J.R. and Jerry Lawler, maybe you should show me some respect and KISS MY FEET!
Cole - KISS ROYALTY’S FEET!
J.R. - GO TO HELL!
Cole - KISS THEM YOU PEASANT!
Cole - If you don’t think I’m an athlete, I HAVE ATHLETE’S FOOT. THAT PROVES I’M AN ATHLETE!
Sheamus - The last time we were in England, you embarrassed me in your little tea party. TONIGHT, THE CHAMPION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA… IS GONNA EMBARRASS YOU!
Cole - Sheamus wants to PUNISH THE SUPERSTARS WHO MADE HIS LIFE HELL FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS!
Cole - I think I need medical attention.
Cole - Remember what St. Patrick did to snakes.
Crowd - CM PUNK! CM PUNK!
Cole - Punk is always talking to his opponent - PLAYING MIND GAMES.
Guy - COME ON, RANDY! COME ON, RANDY!
Crowd - GTS! RKO! GTS! RKO!
Cole - EVERYTHING THAT PUNK DOES IS CAUSING TRAUMA AND STRESS TO HIS OPPONENT!
Cole - Ever since the bite from Orton, Punk has been AGGRESSIVE.
(after a superplex, which Orton did at WM)Cole - YOU DON’T SEE ORTON GO TO THE TOP MUCH, BUT THIS SHOWS HOW MUCH THIS RIVALRY MEANS TO HIM!
Punk - FEEL LIKE A WINNER, RANDAL!?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Also, am I the only one here who sees virtually nothing of value in Randy Orton? I can appreciate his Jake The Snake style interviews, but virtually nothing else about him is unique or amazing. There's not a single Randy Orton match I can think of where I think "man, that shit was classic; I've GOT to go back and rewatch that." In fact, there's not a Randy Orton match I can think of, period, that's worth a fuck.

Maybe that's the drawback of "from out of nowhere" finishers. Nothing the person does in the match has any relevance, because we're all waiting for the finisher to come from out of nowhere. There's nothing to build to, no crescendo, no anticipation - you can't anticipate a finisher that's so spontaneous.

I guess. I think dude is overrated like a motherfuckin' Foo Fighters album.[/QUOTE]

Just because I don't like Angle means I support Orton in their little hissy fit and it doesn't mean I don't think Angle is a good wrestler. I don't like either guy really.

Orton is a dime a dozen kind of guy. He's the kind of guy that got to where he was because he got a tremendous push in spite of his ridiculous attitude the WWE has continually been forgiving.

Angle's an excellent wrestler and was one half of one of my favorite matches of all time (WM 21 Angle v. HBK). That doesn't change the fact that I'm seeing his out of the ring behavior as tremendously douchy. On top of this whole you stole my bit and I'm not gonna let it go situation the dude's making an all out effort to rack up DUIs in every state across the nation.

As people, I don't think much of either of them; as wrestlers, Angle's definitely a star while Orton's merely the result of generous booking.
 
Randy Orton's "VIPER!!!!!!!!!" gimmick feels akin to squirting Nestle Chocolate Syrup on vanilla icecream.
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']Angle says he asked for his release, but he didn't - they released him and he was incredibly bitter afterwards. If he'd asked for his release, he'd have had no reason to be so bitter.[/QUOTE]
... I distinctly remember you shitting on Angle a few times for lying to the Almighty Vincent "Bisexual" Kennedy McMahon about the terms of his medical release.
 
I'm gonna go ahead and throw out my draft predictions, first there would be a big difference on my list if two things hadn't happened.

To RAW - Barrett, Kofi, and Rhodes

To SD - Sheamus, Bryan, and R-Truth

If Edge hadn't been forced into an early retirement then I would've put Christian on RAW.

If R-Truth had stayed in the main event Morrison moving to SD would've been a guarantee
 
Just watched a Sin Cara video, and I have to ask: Are they serious? That trampoline shit insulted the shit out of me.

Sin Cara = Shockmaster 2011

That might be a little extreme -- Probably closer to the corniness of Suicide. Although his early 90s WCW hype and debut reminded me of Glacier.
 
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