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I watched GTTV last night, and they announced Curry Man, and Petey Williams as DLC later on. :D I hope they don't do something stupid, and add mortal kombat characters of something weird like that.
 
[quote name='help1']Does it use No Mercy's engine?[/QUOTE]

No. The cats what made "Backyard Wrestling" developed this title.

[quote name='007']I'd normally agree with the whole 'day one' thing, since I've been doing that with Smackdown for years now, but this is a completely different story. I want to support TNA and wrestling games that AREN'T Smackdown... but they fucked up. They fucked up REAL bad. After that Q&A, I literally couldn't bring myself to give money to people that half-assed a game this badly.

That, and remember... after this year, Smackdown goes buh-bye, for better or worse. So, trying to support 'new' wrestling game franchises seems a bit less noble or important as it did during the Smackdown era.[/QUOTE]

I think a lot of people forget that this will be the last Smackdown game. THQ has SvR 09, and WWE Legends of Wrestlemania (which should be avoided due to the fact that Vince McMahon was so pissed off at Mick Foley going to TNA that he ordered him taken out of the fucking game!), and that's it.

WWE won't resign with them. Personally, I suspect we'll see EA or Activision take over the WWE license (but that's akin to saying "I think the sun will go down tonight," I suppose). Whether they do well or not with the license is up for debate. But, IMO, the Smackdown series is beyond stale, even if the allure of Santino Marella being in the game is there.

SvR suffers the worst version of, IMO, "ROSTER UPDATE!!!" syndrome imaginable. Everything stays the same, for the most part, except for the roster, their entrance themes, and the arenas. Same shit, different game.

But for Impact, that Q&A *ruined* the game for me. Pathetic all around. But at least they were honest up front. Now, if they offer FREE dlc for the wrestlers (at least the first few, until they get to a roster of 30 or so guys), then I may reconsider. But in the meantime, after I read that interview, I refuse to buy this game. GameFly may send it to me, though.
 
[quote name='jman619']I watched GTTV last night, and they announced Curry Man, and Petey Williams as DLC later on. :D I hope they don't do something stupid, and add mortal kombat characters of something weird like that.[/quote]

Saw that on gametrailers.com. As myke said, I hope it's free stuff as I don't want to be paying x amount for additional guys. The game is lacking as it is.

This being the last Smackdown game (and foley to tna) is news to me as I've been out of the wrestling loop for a while now. I don't know if its good or bad though.

McMahon 2010 - You heard it hear first. ;)
 
Contract runs out, and it's not expected to be renewed. After Smackdown '09 and Legends of Wrestlemania, the WWE licence will be going to a yet-to-be-named developer/publisher.

So, really, supporting a 'new' TNA wrestling game to show the Smackdown team that we're tired of it seems pointless, since we'll be getting a whole new WWE game/series next year (at least I'm hoping it'll be next year. As much as Smackdown is stale, it would be odd to *not* have a yearly WWE game).

I'm not so much up on where the licence is going, but I think I remember rumors of EA. I'd actually be okay with that since, though it would eventually turn back into 'Madden: WWE style' with yearly entries, they have the resources and teams to really hit the ground running, unlike Midway with the TNA game. That's what worries me, frankly... that as stale as Smackdown has become, any brand new series is going to seem like a HUGE step backwards in the first few years, unless there's an amazing team doing it.
 
[quote name='xpag406']:applause:

Here's hoping so, because I will not pay more then that for this "Game".[/QUOTE]

Argh... You haven't even played it yet. Maybe it will be really good. It's apparently going to be very stripped down, but maybe it will be a good old school style game. Like an old NES wrestling game. People still love those games.
 
[quote name='Chuplayer']Argh... You haven't even played it yet. Maybe it will be really good. It's apparently going to be very stripped down, but maybe it will be a good old school style game. Like an old NES wrestling game. People still love those games.[/quote]
Yeah, but the point is, they expect us to pay full price for what basically amounts to a demo on steroids.
 
[quote name='BoSoxFan900']Yeah, but the point is, they expect us to pay full price for what basically amounts to a demo on steroids.[/QUOTE]

You wouldn't have said that in the 80s or 90s.
 
[quote name='Chuplayer']You wouldn't have said that in the 80s or 90s.[/quote]
News flash: This isn't the 80's or 90's. And this game is still a glorified demo.
 
I just can't wait til a review goes up already.

What I can see happening:
+graphics
+gameplay
+camera
-not many featues (low replay value)
-very linear story progression
 
[quote name='BoSoxFan900']News flash: This isn't the 80's or 90's. And this game is still a glorified demo.[/QUOTE]

News flash: A good game with less features is better than a bad game with more features. Calling a game a demo just because it's lacking extra stuff is not unlike saying you play video games for the graphics.
 
[quote name='Chuplayer']News flash: A good game with less features is better than a bad game with more features. Calling a game a demo just because it's lacking extra stuff is not unlike saying you play video games for the graphics.[/quote]

Very true statement. :)
 
[quote name='Chuplayer']News flash: A good game with less features is better than a bad game with more features. Calling a game a demo just because it's lacking extra stuff is not unlike saying you play video games for the graphics.[/quote]
I disagree. My reasoning: It's not like I'm saying "Hey, this game doesn't have pretty enough entrances!" They can't even be bothered to give all of the wrestlers their actual finishing moves? That just screams "unfinished." Hell, even the N64 wrestling games had multiple attires and the wrestlers had their finishing moves.
 
BoSoxFan nailed it. Sure, back in the day, this game would've been completely acceptable. HOWEVER, as stale and boring as Smackdown has become, it completely set the tone for any wrestling series after it (it really goes back to WM2000, but I figured it was easier using Smackdown). As a result, the utter lack of polish on the TNA game is unacceptable, especially at full price. I agree with those who are saying that the lack of all trademark or finishing moves is a sign that the game isn't finished... because it's true. To me, this just smacks of nothing but the team dragging ass for TWO YEARS (remember that) and Midway finally getting sick of it and handing them an ultimatum.

Here's the reality of it: you can spend two years creating the best wrestling game engine EVER, but it will NEVER make up for a lack of features and polish in 2008. No way, no how.

It's utterly ridiculous to compare it to full price wrestling games of the 80s or 90s. If you can't see that, I can't help you.
 
[quote name='Chuplayer']News flash: A good game with less features is better than a bad game with more features. Calling a game a demo just because it's lacking extra stuff is not unlike saying you play video games for the graphics.[/QUOTE]

That's true. At the same time, this doesn't have what I feel is $60 worth of features in it.

If the few who buy it gush about how much fun the gameplay is, then great. As it is, the game is not just "lacking extra stuff," it's fucking anorexic. It's missing things that wrestling games had over a decade ago.
 
[quote name='BoSoxFan900']I disagree. My reasoning: It's not like I'm saying "Hey, this game doesn't have pretty enough entrances!" They can't even be bothered to give all of the wrestlers their actual finishing moves? That just screams "unfinished." Hell, even the N64 wrestling games had multiple attires and the wrestlers had their finishing moves.[/QUOTE]

The lack of finishing moves is a very legitimate strike against it, but that can be overlooked if the game is good. And maybe somebody got their facts wrong. We won't know if that's the case until we have the game in our consoles and see what moves we can and can't do.

And I know they dragged their ass for two years, and I don't have much faith in the game, but I'm not going to discredit it before it even comes out. I am taking the wait and see approach. If the core gameplay is good, I'll likely buy it next month. If not, I'll see what people have to say about it. If it looks like it could be a good building block for a sequel, I'll look forward to that.
 
no matter how shitty game turns out.. im actually looking forward to tomorrow (hope game is instore tomm. and not wed) . I preordered for the dvd.

Im still sticking with my prediction of 6.5 at ign. (which would suprise me). I expect lower.

The gametrailer videos were pretty cool and i look forward to the curry man/petey dlc.
 
Why couldn't those guys be included in the actual game? The roster size is so small. I don't see why they couldn't have thrown them in.

I'll probably rent it this weekend to see how it is. By the way it looks so far, the max I would pay for this game is 20 bucks.
 
Greg Miller mentions that a majority of the 2,000 motion captured moves aren't even put in the game, that right there is very disappointing.

Edit: I guess they admitted it in the Q&A already.
 
Notes from the video review.. a lot of it we already knew, some if it we didn't...

-As GodlyOne said, 2,000 moves were captured, but due to "time constraints" (two years for TNA as opposed to 1 year for Smackdown..), you will "see a lot of atomic drops, suplexes, and groin kicks."

-Every character feels the same, which defeats the purpose of picking someone else

- Entrances and animations are great, though entrances are cut short

- Thirty shirts available for CAW, you start with a default move set list and have to unlock moves, but (this part was confusing so I may get it wrong) you can only pick from a few different sets, each of which has 16 moves, so unlocking the moves takes a long time and is pretty much a waste of time.

-Tag matches suck because the AI is braindead and the camera has a far away angle the entire time.

-XBox Live is single matches (one on one) only, no CAW.

-TNA doesn't really feel like a wrestling game, every match is "no count out", chairs are randomly on the floor and you can use them without getting DQ'ed, tag teams don't enter together, no double team moves, there aren't even championship belts in the game.
 
I made a bet with a friend, and I was right. I knew it would slowdown on ps3 or something be lame about the ps3 version. I'm going to get it for the 360 in that case. 6.7 ouch though.
 
[quote name='Scorch']Notes from the video review.. a lot of it we already knew, some if it we didn't...


-TNA doesn't really feel like a wrestling game, every match is "no count out", chairs are randomly on the floor and you can use them without getting DQ'ed, tag teams don't enter together, no double team moves, there aren't even championship belts in the game.[/quote]

:rofl: WTF?
 
[quote name='Scorch']IGN review is up.. 6.7 for X360, 6.4 for PS3.. PS3 has clipping and slowdown issues

X360 review
PS3 review[/QUOTE]

Thanks for that, it's just what I've been waiting for.

Maybe the next rendition can hit more sweet spots, but the gameplay doesn't sound that bad (this is coming from a guy who's played raw 2 for quite some time before going to the sd series).

It would be hard to resist at $20, especially this month. :rofl:
 
[quote name='DJSteel']ugh.. where is AKI??? please save the wrestling games...[/QUOTE]

Sorry, they are working on the new Ready 2 Rumble game #-o
 
Pretty much what I expected. Why does the PS3 version get all that stuff messed up? I'm tired of that sort of thing happening.

Anyway, I'm kinda looking forward to renting it. It's probably not good, but it's probably not gonna be terrible either.
 
[quote name='Blackout']Pretty much what I expected. Why does the PS3 version get all that stuff messed up? I'm tired of that sort of thing happening.

Anyway, I'm kinda looking forward to renting it. It's probably not good, but it's probably not gonna be terrible either.[/QUOTE]

Really, when you consider how shoddy the game is in and of itself, slowdown and clipping are nothing.

It's like complaining about "sharp knees" on a woman who looks like Dom DeLuise.
 
They may have been aiming for No Mercy, but it sounds like they ended up hitting WCW/nWo World Tour instead.

I just... really. No belts? No count out? Weapons laying around? No DQ?

It's like someone made a joke list of what *not* to make a wrestling game, but they took it seriously. Though, admittedly, it does sound like it paints a fairly clear picture of the TNA product. ;)
 
Dear god, if that's true... man, I *really* gotta work on paying attention to what I leave on in the background. Heh.
 
[quote name='007']They may have been aiming for No Mercy, but it sounds like they ended up hitting WCW/nWo World Tour instead.

I just... really. No belts? No count out? Weapons laying around? No DQ?

It's like someone made a joke list of what *not* to make a wrestling game, but they took it seriously. Though, admittedly, it does sound like it paints a fairly clear picture of the TNA product. ;)[/QUOTE]

TNA doesn't, or atleast didn't used to, have DQ either - so no DQ would actually make sense.

I don't see why everyone is going by what IGN says though, IGN has gotten so bad lately, so have GS, and pretty much every place else. EGM was very bad, but recently, they've been improving alot - but right now, the only real "trustable" review place, I'd say is Game Trailers.

They usually have pretty much the most accurate and fair reviews now-a-days.

I'm still going to try the game, not buy it, but try it.. some of the videos I've seen, make it look absolutely horrible, yet there are others, that make it look like DoR, which I'm apparently the only person in the world to love DoR. I'm not expecting an amazing game, but still, I expect it to atleast be fun.

I could be very wrong, and it could turn out like TNA's product, a complete and utter mess, but I'm going to wait and see for myself.
 
My mind is officially blown.

How did I completely miss this stuff? Months of leaving it on while I'm on the computer and I don't know that, and yet I remember ODB taking a shit. Someone is doing a bad job here, and it's either TNA or my priorities. ;)
 
[quote name='007']My mind is officially blown.

How did I completely miss this stuff? Months of leaving it on while I'm on the computer and I don't know that, and yet I remember ODB taking a shit. Someone is doing a bad job here, and it's either TNA or my priorities. ;)[/QUOTE]

It's just TNA, it's fine to miss... you are actually doing yourself a favor by missing it.

Oh, and trust me, it's not you, it's 100% TNA fault - oh no, wait, I mean Vince Russo.
 
I'm still gonna wait for a few more reviews, I never have really trusted IGN, and only half trust Gamespot. Hopefully some CAGs get it and share their impressions. :)
I really want it, so I can stop making Samoa Joe,AJ Styles & Christopher Daniels on every Smackdown game that comes out. :)
 
In all honesty, I think the engine will be okay (though nothing like the AKI engine like some have said), but the lack of, well, everything will severely hurt the replay and general value. At very least, the game looks pretty. Let's all applaud pretty. ;)
 
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