Ultimate Warrior memorial wrestling thread 1959-2014

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Who is white jacket guy? Some super fan? Only one of those I recognize is the dude in the red hat. It's funny, he's clearly fuckin' LOADED if he can tour with WWE as a fan. But if that's what he does, good lood a'mighty do I feel bad for him.

Tried watching Impact tonight. fucking hell if this is what professional wrestling is. I thought I liked professional wrestling, but it appears "the worst soliloquies" is what the program appears to be.
If it helps make any more sense, Christy Hemme is on the creative team and the rumor is that they're passing along the scripts to Vince Russo to do re-writes.
 
Can someone just mercy-kill TNA already?
Considering what Paul Heyman said during the podcast with Stone Cold, it's surprising that they haven't killed themselves off yet. He mentioned that even when they were talking to him years ago about coming in to help out, they were at least $90-100 million in the hole then. He said judging from their accounting and people running the finances that they were sometimes losing $7 million a month(which was the total debt ECW had when it filed for bankruptcy).

Don't know if it's still true. But if so, jeez, they're running into more debt than WCW did in it's final years. No wonder they've been giving lowball offers to talent and tried to sell the company.

 
Who is white jacket guy? Some super fan? Only one of those I recognize is the dude in the red hat. It's funny, he's clearly fuckin' LOADED if he can tour with WWE as a fan. But if that's what he does, good lood a'mighty do I feel bad for him.

Tried watching Impact tonight. fucking hell if this is what professional wrestling is. I thought I liked professional wrestling, but it appears "the worst soliloquies" is what the program appears to be.
This guy - https://twitter.com/WWEsBiggestFan

Next to clown guy - MITB 2011
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And one more in shock when Taker lost - WM 30 with Brock Lesnar fan to his left
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Yeah, I didn't have a clue who that was before you posted those photos. I still can't recall him after seeing them. The only two regulars I always recognize are Workshirt/Red Hat Guy and Bro Shirt Guy.

 
Oh, I have seen that dude before, okay. If it makes you happy, I guess. I certainly don't fuckin' get it.

TNA may be losing that kind of scratch, but the big difference is that energy company money funds TNA. Dixie is the child of a Texas energy billionaire. TNA is little more than a playtoy for a rich middle-aged kid. ECW was built on a dirty, dirty (really) dirty building and Paul Heyman's bullshit (he'll tell you as much, or his workers will).

If TNA was truly interested in generating a profit instead of being a vehicle for making a spoiled rich kid a basic cable 'star,' the booking would have changed tremendously over time. TNA will cease to exist when the Carters decide they no longer wish to spend millions on a vanity project for their daughter, if that ever happens. Alternately, lord only knows how, but they might get big.

It's not a wrestling promotion. It's a Dixie Carter promotion.

 
Makes sense given a lot of the "I saw them on the TeeVee, throw money at them!" signings over the years - Jenna Morasca, Johnny Fairplay.  Also giving multiple Jersey Shore cast members 15,000 dollars per appearance IIRC to show up on your wrestling show that airs at the exact same time as the show they are on.

 
Woah. I hadn't really given it a lot of thought, and certainly what you bring up reinforces the point. The ultra rich live in a wholly different world from you or I, so it's not too farfetched or a conspiracy theory that this is just a plaything for their kid.

Think about it this way - it's the same strategy as making the McMahons a constant centerpiece of the program, but the major difference is that Vince was part of one of THEE biggest angles of the late 90's, largely after he was dragged into heel status (via Montreal screwjob). Dixie inserted herself into the same spot despite being a nobody at every stage leading up to her introduction as a character. That doesn't mean Vince isn't overwrought (good god am I sick of McMahons), but there's a sense behind it that Dixie lacks.

 
TNA is so non-factor that Dixie Carter could gargle Kurt Angle's balls live on TV and not only would no one care, they'd actually lose ratings for it.

 
I'm pretty certain Kurt Angle's balls are booked to win the tag team championship in TNA.

It's a goddamned shame, because they have a very talented roster - including people who weren't from your typical ROH/regional arthouse superfan wrestling promotion (PWG and the like). But godDAMN the show is unbearable to watch.

 
Daniel Bryan's father passed away today. Bryan will go on with the show. http://www.wwe.com/inside/daniel-bryan-father-passes-away-26253027

Jake Roberts is officially cancer free.

Hugh Jackman on Raw next week.

Eva Marie has misshapen uterus. Might not be able to have kids.

RVD vs. Cesaro tonight.

Hilarious Evolution Skeleton Shirt
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Fantastic Wyatt Shirt
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Daniel Bryan Goes to TNA
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Nobody thought the pelvises on the skeletons look like a mouse with attitude.

 
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Hot opening - presumably gives Bryan off until the PPV and lets Kane look like a threat.

Barrett/Sheamus was a treat as well.  Guessing we'll see Swagger interference to knock Cesaro out of the tourney next.

 
Admittedly, I watched a lot of playoff hockey tonight, but watching quick clips of Raw revealed some eye-rolling moments for sure. Cesaro's new music, Aksana's Cinemax-porno-quality music, and the rewind clips of fifteen people kicking each other in the dick during the Los Matadores/3MB segment. "Ow, My Balls!" indeed, for those who've seen Idiocracy.

 
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Bryan's bags were already packed when he got backstage and he's already on his way home to be with his family.
THIS. This is the perfect example of what it is that really rubs people the wrong way with you. You come of as a smarmy know it all that thinks they have an inside source and gets the scoop on everything behind the curtain. Then you have to be the first to run to a thread somewhere and report your "hot news" which quite often ends up either being wrong, ass-backwards, or just doesn't even have shit to do with anything people may even care about.

Maybe, just maybe, if you stopped with the incessant know it all shit people would ease up on you.

 
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I'm pretty certain Kurt Angle's balls are booked to win the tag team championship in TNA.

It's a goddamned shame, because they have a very talented roster - including people who weren't from your typical ROH/regional arthouse superfan wrestling promotion (PWG and the like). But godDAMN the show is unbearable to watch.
I agree. TNA has potential even right now with the talent they have but the shows they are giving us now are nearly just as bad as the stinkers WCW gave us in 2000.

 
Coachman tells a story of how Vince played a prank on him:

Q: I've heard a rumor about Vince McMahon playing a prank on you that involved cops. It was published in one of the WWE publications, any truth to it?

A: What you read and heard was 100% true. The thing about WWE is you have to be accepted on many different levels. From 2003 on, I was one of the boys. If you were willing to put your neck on the line and get in the ring, that separates you from everybody else. Up until that point, I had to be accepted into the crew, so to speak. Basically, Jerry Brisco came up to me in 2001 in Fayetteville, North Carolina, and he said he wanted me to run a football pool. $10 to pick all the games, and everybody did it. And I started on a Tuesday, it was a Smackdown taping, I'll never forget it. I had my own room I did interviews in, and all the sudden two cops show up. They were very serious, and said I understand you're running a gambling pool. You sold one to one of our undercover cops here. It's a felony in North Carolina and we're going to have to take you in. So we're walking down the hallway, and we stop in front of Vince's office, and they said we should probably let him know because you're not going to be here for a while. We walk in and it's Vince, Triple H, Stephanie, The Rock, Kevin Dunn and Jerry Brisco. I should have known that, with Jerry in the room, something was going on, but I was so terrified because I was 26 years old. The real cops proceeded to tell Vince they've caught me in a gambling pool and we need to take him downtown. Vince got in my face, and he was an inch away from my nose. He was cursing, telling me my priorities were bad, and spending company time to run a gambling pool. This entire riff lasted 45 minutes. At the end of the office bit, the officer said it was $1,500 to get me out, and Vince said F-no, he's on his own. They handcuffed me, and I asked if there was anything I could put over my face. Vince threw me a pair of sweaty gym shorts that got stuck on my face. I walked out of the office and the first person I see is The Undertaker. He looks at me with shock, and it was so real because no one else was in on it except those people in the office. They walked me out, and all the fans could see me and they drove me about a mile down the road, and got a call on the radio that they had to come back to pick up something. They turn around, come back, and everyone's there with Vince in front of everybody laughing their asses off. Greatest rib in the history of the business, and for about 10 minutes I literally walked to a place in the building and started crying. I thought my career was over. I thought how can I tell my dad I got fired over a $10 football pool.
 
I also gotta' say I've been thinking about the crop of wrestlers that came out of OVW have mostly been all crap. Cena, Orton, and Batista are decent entertainers but their match quality is all over the place. Lesnar is a physical beast but even how he puts matches together is meh. 
 
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WWE really needs to do something like that on TV. Act like Triple H or Stephanie gave him directions to the wrong arena.
If you want to book Daniel Bryan as a complete idiot like Zack Ryder being unable to change a flat tire in 2 hours and kill his character, by all means, go right ahead.

 
It is easier to kill the character of someone nobody likes than it would be to kill D Bryans. But yea, that would be something I would expect to happen in WCW, which is always something to avoid.

 
WWE posted some Sting stuff on Youtube. One looks like an extension of what we've already seen and the other is something different.

http://youtu.be/C9Dz0U6BGgo

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It is easier to kill the character of someone nobody likes than it would be to kill D Bryans. But yea, that would be something I would expect to happen in WCW, which is always something to avoid.
Hogan is supposed to defend his title against Goldberg but has Horace Hogan tampers with the GPS. The SuperBrawl World Title match starts. Goldberg's music plays. No Goldberg. Tony Schiavone tells us that they have exclusive footage of Goldberg.

Goldberg walks out to an empty arena. He starts screaming for Hogan and tells him to stop hiding. "Hogan, where are you?!", Goldberg asks as he starts tearing seats out from the floor. Schiavone tells viewers that the live footage is being brought to from across the state. Voodoo Child plays. Hogan comes out laughing. The PPV ends with Hogan getting a count out victory. Tune into Nitro to see what Goldberg does next!

 
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Is this personal? Look I think we've gotten ahead of ourselves and this point and we need to make amends with each other. This needs to stop. So what I'm ready to do is apologize to you and show you that we can be friends. I'll even go first if that makes you feel better.

I'm sorry for thinking you're incapable of passing a reading equivalency exam in all fifty states except Mississippi. I'm sorry for not believing you were capable of understanding subtext because these last ninety days you've been saltier than a steak marinated in the Dead Sea. I'm sorry for believing that the angrier you get, the more you lose your ability to speak rationally (and thus have to resort to pictures to get your message across). I was wrong about all these things. And so, so many more.

So lets shake hands and be friends. Eh. Who am I kidding? Friends don't shake hands, Rigor Mortis. Friends HUG!

 
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Is this personal? Look I think we've gotten ahead of ourselves and this point and we need to make amends with each other. This needs to stop. So what I'm ready to do is apologize to you and show you that we can be friends. I'll even go first if that makes you feel better.

I'm sorry for thinking you're incapable of passing a reading equivalency exam in all fifty states except Mississippi. I'm sorry for not believing you were capable of understanding subtext because these last ninety days you've been saltier than a steak marinated in the Dead Sea. I'm sorry for believing that the angrier you get, the more you lose your ability to speak rationally (and thus have to resort to pictures to get your message across). I was wrong about all these things. And so, so many more.

So lets shake hands and be friends. Eh. Who am I kidding? Friends don't shake hands, Rigor Mortis. Friends HUG!
I'd like to believe that you are entertaining yourself...but it all comes off like you're trying to cheer yourself up each and every time you post a defensive paragraph.

You don't have to try so hard sir! Just RELAX. Take a deep breath. We love wrestling. We are nerds. This is what we do to get away from the stresses/horrors of real life.

 
I'd like to believe that you are entertaining yourself...but it all comes off like you're trying to cheer yourself up each and every time you post a defensive paragraph.

You don't have to try so hard sir! Just RELAX. Take a deep breath. We love wrestling. We are nerds. This is what we do to get away from the stresses/horrors of real life.
Yeah. You're right. That's why I was apologized to Rigor Mortis. It was completely sincere. Lets talk wrestling. When do you think Bryan will finishing throwing chairs in this GIF?

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Pretty soon no one is even going to see HeroToTheMasses' posts because everyone is just ignoring him. Dude I enjoy 50% of what you post but the other 50% is just straight drama inducing crap. I know what ever i say will just fuel your fire so i'm just gonna add you to that ignore list like the rest.

 
Pardon the interruption.

I saw this and figured perhaps someone here would be interested.

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Lines for this Sunday's TNA PPV(?).

 
Pardon the interruption.

I saw this and figured perhaps someone here would be interested.

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Lines for this Sunday's TNA PPV(?).
Dixie tells employees the outcomes to matches so they can bet, they then get Russo'd out of their money because nobody could properly explain the finish.

Magnus might be worth a shot though as I wouldn't be surprised to see them throw the belt to Bully Ray before the New York tapings. Either that or they'll do a Beer Money vs. Dudley Boys match.

 
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We'll get to see if Tigre Uno finally succeeds in killing Sanada with that suplex he shouldn't be doing on anyone taller than him (EVERYONE)

Card for the NJPW/ROH New York show

Saturday, May 17th, 2014 – 7:30PM
The Hammerstein Ballroom – New York City
 
ROH WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP
Winner of Adam Cole vs. Kevin Steen from GLOBAL WARS (ROH) vs. Jushin “Thunder” Liger (NJPW
 
IWGP HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP
"Rainmaker" Kazuchika Okada vs. "Unbreakable" Michael Elgin (ROH)
**5/3 in Fukuoka, Japan Kazuchika Okada defends the IWGP Heavyweight Championship against AJ Styles. The winner of that match will defend against Michael Elgin on May 17th
 
ROH WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP
Champions: The Young Bucks (Bullet Club) vs. reDRagon (ROH)
 
IWGP WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP
Champions: Karl Anderson & Doc Gallows (Bullet Club) vs. Jay & Mark Briscoe (ROH)
 
ROH WORLD TV CHAMPIONSHIP
Champion: Jay Lethal w/ Truth Martini (ROH) vs. KUSHIDA (NJPW)
 
Shinsuke Nakamura (NJPW) vs. Kevin Steen or Adam Cole (ROH)  
 
Hiroshi Tanahashi (NJPW) vs. Michael Bennett w/ Maria Kanellis (ROH)
 
Also Signed to Appear
"The Phenomenal" AJ Styles (ROH)
Gedo & Jado (NJPW)
The Forever Hooligans (Rocky Romero & Alex Koslov) (NJPW)
Takaaki Watanabe (NJPW)
The Decade (Roderick Strong, BJ Whitmer & Jimmy Jacobs) w/ Adam Page (ROH)
ACH (ROH)
Matt Taven (ROH)
Cedric Alexander (ROH)
Tommaso Ciampa (ROH)
Silas Young (ROH)
Caprice Coleman (ROH)
 
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Considering they're just events now, I guess it really doesn't matter. I wonder if they'll even air these on ppv.
I think they'll keep airing them on PPV as long as the providers will carry them. No sense in cutting out an avenue of purchase for their product.

 
They do 12 a year, but they've been skipping March to gear up for Wrestlemania for the last couple of years. They have to make it up somehow.

 
I remember a few years ago it went as high as 16 in some years. I guess that didn't work out. Maybe with the Network they'll try it again.
 
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