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#1771 KrAzY3   The 3 is silent. CAGiversary!   673 Posts   Joined 15.5 Years Ago  

Posted 28 February 2020 - 04:49 AM

I wouldn't doubt it. I mean there are people around here buying 30 year old, 400lb light gun games with broken light guns, so I wouldn't be surprised.

Collector's are always focused on originals though. Just look at cars, it doesn't matter that newer models can be better in every imaginable way, an old all original (meaning all really outdated) car can be worth a fortune. I don't think there's a big collector's market for PT Cruisers for instance, even if they took inspiration from the 1930s cars.

In this case, I do see some potential for Arcade1Ups to bottom out, for there to be enough floating around that it doesn't take a great effort to find ones for $75 or less. To that end, once those slowly vanish, could they go back up in price a bit? To $150 or may be even $200? Sure, I guess so. Especially if the originals become impossible to track down. But, the idea of these being collectible in any true sense, that there might be people out there making them focal points of their collection seems tremendously unlikely. They're basically cheap imitations of the originals, not even improvements like modern cars can be considered. They don't even hold the unique characteristics of those Tiger handhelds, which at least had originality going for them. They're just definitively worse versions of something else.

It also doesn't help that pretty much every Walmart in the country has stocked them. They are far more common than the original arcade machines as well. The more likely result is that these end up driving more people to try to get their hands on the original arcade machines, driving those prices even higher.



#1772 soonerdoc   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   692 Posts   Joined 16.6 Years Ago  

Posted 28 February 2020 - 06:21 AM

FYI. Atgames released a new firmware today. Now you can connect the cab to a pc via usb cable.  If you connect via this usb and HDMI to a pc you can run CoinOPS or other front end and play on your legends screen with the legends control deck. Zero lag. 
 

support for Pi coming next week. 
 

just connected this to my pc and now have thousands of games playable on the legends unit via CoinOPS. This is great. 



#1773 purbeast   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   710 Posts   Joined 12.1 Years Ago  

Posted 28 February 2020 - 12:15 PM

I wouldn't doubt it. I mean there are people around here buying 30 year old, 400lb light gun games with broken light guns, so I wouldn't be surprised.

A 350lb original arcade cabinet build like a tank with original parts that probably retailed for $2000+ back in the day that was purchased for $300 23 years later, versus a 3/4 replica that costs $300 retail with bootleg parts and made of paper mache.

 

Yep, they are the EXACT same thing.

 

There is 0 nostalgia with A1up either.  Part of the draw to real arcade cabinets is the feeling that when you were a kid and used to go to arcades and feed your quarters into these machines, that now you are older and make money and own a house, you can just bring them to your house and play them whenever you want, bringing you back to feeling like a kid again. 

 

And again, A1up cabs won't last more than 2-3 years so they won't even be around in 20 years.  They will have fallen apart and been in landfills for decades.



#1774 ravens52bears54   Thin Blue Line CAGiversary!   1570 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

ravens52bears54

Posted 28 February 2020 - 09:17 PM

A 350lb original arcade cabinet build like a tank with original parts that probably retailed for $2000+ back in the day that was purchased for $300 23 years later, versus a 3/4 replica that costs $300 retail with bootleg parts and made of paper mache.

Yep, they are the EXACT same thing.

There is 0 nostalgia with A1up either. Part of the draw to real arcade cabinets is the feeling that when you were a kid and used to go to arcades and feed your quarters into these machines, that now you are older and make money and own a house, you can just bring them to your house and play them whenever you want, bringing you back to feeling like a kid again.

And again, A1up cabs won't last more than 2-3 years so they won't even be around in 20 years. They will have fallen apart and been in landfills for decades.

LOL. Why are you in this thread? If you don't think these are collector's items, cool. Why is it that someone like me can't find a Rampage cab anywhere? Or the original Pacman? It's not like there's an infinite availability. Also, if you think these things will only last three years you're delusional.
I'm not collecting these things because I expect some profit in decades to come but I do think they're pretty damn cool.

#1775 doctorwolf   CAG Newbie CAGiversary!   212 Posts   Joined 7.3 Years Ago  

doctorwolf

Posted 28 February 2020 - 09:26 PM

LOL. Why are you in this thread? If you don't think these are collector's items, cool. Why is it that someone like me can't find a Rampage cab anywhere? Or the original Pacman? It's not like there's an infinite availability. Also, if you think these things will only last three years you're delusional.
I'm not collecting these things because I expect some profit in decades to come but I do think they're pretty damn cool.


He got tired of creeping around the Nintendo thread letting everbody know how much better the Genesis was.

#1776 KrAzY3   The 3 is silent. CAGiversary!   673 Posts   Joined 15.5 Years Ago  

Posted 28 February 2020 - 10:14 PM

LOL. Why are you in this thread? If you don't think these are collector's items, cool. Why is it that someone like me can't find a Rampage cab anywhere? Or the original Pacman? It's not like there's an infinite availability.

The actual answer is because they are in the hands of salvage companies. Walmart dumped a lot of the stock. There's one I haven't been able to figure out, but cheap ($200 or less) brand new Turtles keep popping up from flippers and Brickseek and my actual trips to local Walmarts don't turn anything up.

Anyway, one of our local salvage companies bought a lot of these and they are selling the original Pacman supposedly (heading out to check it out later). I passed up Rampage at $75 though from Walmart though, that cab had issues.

When salvage companies are literally getting truckloads of these, it doesn't mean they're becoming highly sought after and collectible. That's not how that works. They don't go to Dirt Cheap, TJ Maxx, and so on because collector's are snatching them all up. I still want a few and respect them for what they are, but most for most part they are not in demand collectibles...

Get the ones you like, enjoy them, but unless you get them really really cheap there shouldn't be any expectations in terms of gaining value. They're replicas. I think my Centipede cab looks cool, and that's really what they are for the most part. Cool looking and somewhat functional replicas. Not collectibles in any meaningful sense of the word, although you can hoard just about anything...

Edit: Just to clarify my statements, I've collected various things since I was a child. I've also sold my share of things, so I've learned a lot about what's truly collectible and what's not. My advice isn't, don't buy these. It's, don't buy these thinking they're going to hold value. Buy them like you'd buy an Xbox or a Playstation, to play, and knowing more than likely it's going to end up worth less than you paid. There are not good investments unless you're finding ridiculously cheap ones.



#1777 purbeast   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   710 Posts   Joined 12.1 Years Ago  

Posted 28 February 2020 - 10:16 PM

LOL. Why are you in this thread? If you don't think these are collector's items, cool. Why is it that someone like me can't find a Rampage cab anywhere? Or the original Pacman? It's not like there's an infinite availability. Also, if you think these things will only last three years you're delusional.
I'm not collecting these things because I expect some profit in decades to come but I do think they're pretty damn cool.

Because I was interested in these until to make a MAME cabinet for my son, until I saw one in person.  And this thread is legit the reason I moved my KI2 cab out of the garage after it sat for 14 years.  And this thread is the reason I purchased 3 more arcade cabs.  So I'm subscribed to this thread and check it out still.  And when I see people spewing incorrect information, I will chime in.  It's always good to educate people so they aren't ignorant.

 

There is also a difference between something being a collectible and someone collecting something.  You are clearly collecting them and ain't nothing wrong with that.  I was talking about these being collectibles, in the sense of the traditional word.



#1778 BrandonJF   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   679 Posts   Joined 11.9 Years Ago  

BrandonJF

Posted 29 February 2020 - 01:45 AM

Since you are in this thread, I'm assuming you have seen an Arcade 1up in person.  Which means you have seen the quality of them.

 

LOL @ thinking these things will last 20-30 years.  They probably won't make it through a couple years with people actually using them.

No idea what you think people are doing with them.   If traditional "arcade" play includes pounding the buttons and kicking the panels, yeah, they probably won't last long.  



#1779 315Retro   Westside Wizard CAGiversary!   1633 Posts   Joined 8.9 Years Ago  

Posted 29 February 2020 - 03:25 AM

I think the other point is that they make them much more accessible for the average person. They're built pretty simple and you don't have to learn a billion things to manage a hobby. They're smaller and easier to have around too. I don't think the people interested in these are the same people who are looking for originals.

And I never meant collectible in the sense of money retention. That's stupid with any item other than precious metals.

#1780 v0yce   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   422 Posts   Joined 14.7 Years Ago  

Posted 29 February 2020 - 04:10 AM

when I see people spewing incorrect information, I will chime in.  It's always good to educate people so they aren't ignorant.

 

You should educate this guy spewing incorrect information. He seems pretty ignorant.

 

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A 350lb original arcade cabinet build like a tank with original parts that probably retailed for $2000+ back in the day that was purchased for $300 23 years later, versus a 3/4 replica that costs $300 retail with bootleg parts and made of paper mache.

 

Yep, they are the EXACT same thing.

 

There is 0 nostalgia with A1up either.  Part of the draw to real arcade cabinets is the feeling that when you were a kid and used to go to arcades and feed your quarters into these machines, that now you are older and make money and own a house, you can just bring them to your house and play them whenever you want, bringing you back to feeling like a kid again. 

 

And again, A1up cabs won't last more than 2-3 years so they won't even be around in 20 years.  They will have fallen apart and been in landfills for decades.

 

These Arcade1up machines only exist because of nostalgia. Its an easy, economical (both price and space) way to relive some memories of playing arcade games at home. They're not paper mâché. And I'll bet you whatever you want that they last more than 2-3 years.

 

No one cares that you have a an old Killer Instinct cab. Most people don't have the space to dedicate to one, and even if they did don't want to hassle with the upkeep of failing crts and aging boards.

 

Just let it go. You're trying way too hard here.



#1781 purbeast   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   710 Posts   Joined 12.1 Years Ago  

Posted 29 February 2020 - 04:36 AM

^^^

 

Someone's butthurt.  The ole "no one cares but I'm going to take time to write a response about it because I don't care" response.

 

You clearly misunderstood what I was talking about with nostalgia.  Obviously nostalgia is the sole reason for  A1up cabs and no one is arguing otherwise.  

 

You realize that extra square footage of an A1up vs. real arcade cab is less than an extra square foot right?  You really trying to say that an extra square foot of space is a deal breaker and a reason people would take an A1up over a real arcade cabinet?  Yeah okay...

 

There is a reason that the Arcade Legends cabinet at $500+ is sold out everywhere and these A1up cabs can be found anywhere at their retail prices, and clearance prices in many instances.

 

EDIT:

 

And if you like A1up's buy em.  This whole discussion (the one I'm involved in) was simply about buying them as collectibles.  These things will not hold any value.  Things that are only being bought at 75% discounts on clearance are not things that are collectibles.  It's econ 101.



#1782 v0yce   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   422 Posts   Joined 14.7 Years Ago  

Posted 29 February 2020 - 05:22 AM

^^^

Someone's butthurt. The ole "no one cares but I'm going to take time to write a response about it because I don't care" response.

You clearly misunderstood what I was talking about with nostalgia. Obviously nostalgia is the sole reason for A1up cabs and no one is arguing otherwise.

You realize that extra square footage of an A1up vs. real arcade cab is less than an extra square foot right? You really trying to say that an extra square foot of space is a deal breaker and a reason people would take an A1up over a real arcade cabinet? Yeah okay...

There is a reason that the Arcade Legends cabinet at $500+ is sold out everywhere and these A1up cabs can be found anywhere at their retail prices, and clearance prices in many instances.

EDIT:

And if you like A1up's buy em. This whole discussion (the one I'm involved in) was simply about buying them as collectibles. These things will not hold any value. Things that are only being bought at 75% discounts on clearance are not things that are collectibles. It's econ 101.


The ole "someone's butthurt" routine.

Of course people don't have nostalgia for A1UP because they're brand new. And yes, people collect all kinds of replica things. Including cheap replica arcade machines toys they had as kid.

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https://www.ebay.com...ZIAAOSw8K9de7Bh

And yes, I know the size difference. Its pretty huge.

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Where are you pulling this "less than a sq ft" stuff? The footprint of an A1U is about 3 sq ft. A Standard Galaga cab is double that. Your KI machine is probably close to 7 or 8.

And yes, I think people would choose an A1U because of that, plus things like the massive weight difference and ease of moving it around, dying monitors, boards with various issues, etc, etc.

You're ‘spewing incorrect information.’

#1783 doctorwolf   CAG Newbie CAGiversary!   212 Posts   Joined 7.3 Years Ago  

doctorwolf

Posted 29 February 2020 - 05:26 AM

You realize that extra square footage of an A1up vs. real arcade cab is less than an extra square foot right? You really trying to say that an extra square foot of space is a deal breaker and a reason people would take an A1up over a real arcade cabinet? Yeah okay...


I'm looking at my KI2 machine right now and it takes up the floor space of at LEAST 3 AC1Up machines. It sticks 41" out from the wall compared to 23" for an AC1U. The total volume occupied is probably comparable to 4 AC1U machines. To say their footprint isn't much different is absolutely absurd.

#1784 BrandonJF   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   679 Posts   Joined 11.9 Years Ago  

BrandonJF

Posted 29 February 2020 - 05:47 AM

You clearly misunderstood what I was talking about with nostalgia.  Obviously nostalgia is the sole reason for  A1up cabs and no one is arguing otherwise.  

I wonder how anyone could have possibly misunderstood:

 

There is 0 nostalgia with A1up either.  



#1785 girlracer99lude  

girlracer99lude

Posted 29 February 2020 - 10:28 AM

I have 11 of them but thankfully have gotten most through Walmart clearance. But this little guy is a reason to do it. Most of you keep talking about real arcades, which I have a couple, but I don’t live in a city where it’s easier to find them and I also drive a civic hatchback (which btw you can easily fit 3 A1U boxes).

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#1786 avatar94   CAG Addict CAGiversary!   581 Posts   Joined 14.8 Years Ago  

Posted 29 February 2020 - 10:44 AM

All this talk like these things are just languishing on the shelves everywhere at clearance prices. I've got 75 Walmarts in my Brickseek search radius and have been trying to help a friend chase down a sub-$100 Galaga, Centipede, or Rampage cab for months now. Never seen any in stock cheaper than $200.

Anyone in the Los Angeles area seen them at a local Marshalls or TJ Max or any other place I'm missing?



#1787 purbeast   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   710 Posts   Joined 12.1 Years Ago  

Posted 29 February 2020 - 02:20 PM

I'm looking at my KI2 machine right now and it takes up the floor space of at LEAST 3 AC1Up machines. It sticks 41" out from the wall compared to 23" for an AC1U. The total volume occupied is probably comparable to 4 AC1U machines. To say their footprint isn't much different is absolutely absurd.

It was late and I was drunk and doing math wrong lol.  I was thinking 2'x2' was 2 square feet when I made that comment.  Clearly 2'x2' is 4 square feet.  Math fail lol.

 

Doing sober math, it's approximately 3x more square footage for real cabinet vs. A1up cab.  Doesn't really mean you can fit 3 A1up cabs in the space though just because they are rectangular footprints.



#1788 georox   The Captain CAGiversary!   7679 Posts   Joined 13.4 Years Ago  

Posted 29 February 2020 - 06:19 PM

"Real Arcades" are like... 600 and up here. For a beaten ass janky one missing parts that doesn't function.

 

If I could get real arcades for under 400 that plug in and work? Yea I'd get real ones.

 

So far I have one A1UP, Final Fight, we paid 150. For 150 with how bad craigslist and marketplace are here, I could get a marquee maybe? Or an empty cabinet with no art, parts, or anything...



#1789 Jurai  

Posted 29 February 2020 - 06:27 PM

You guys aren't hoarding Arcade1Ups to pay for your grandkids college tuition?!???!?

#1790 georox   The Captain CAGiversary!   7679 Posts   Joined 13.4 Years Ago  

Posted 29 February 2020 - 07:03 PM

You guys aren't hoarding Arcade1Ups to pay for your grandkids college tuition?!???!?

That's what the funko pops are for!1!!!!!11eleventy!1!!1



#1791 purbeast   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   710 Posts   Joined 12.1 Years Ago  

Posted 29 February 2020 - 08:36 PM

"Real Arcades" are like... 600 and up here. For a beaten ass janky one missing parts that doesn't function.

 

If I could get real arcades for under 400 that plug in and work? Yea I'd get real ones.

 

So far I have one A1UP, Final Fight, we paid 150. For 150 with how bad craigslist and marketplace are here, I could get a marquee maybe? Or an empty cabinet with no art, parts, or anything...

Where is "here" for you?



#1792 SgtWiggles   Artist formally known as dgwillia CAGiversary!   11433 Posts   Joined 11.3 Years Ago  

Posted 29 February 2020 - 09:14 PM

That feel when you come to this thread expecting new deals or info and you just see more stupid arguments and irellevancy.

#1793 LakersHater   CAG in Training CAGiversary!   84 Posts   Joined 7.5 Years Ago  

LakersHater

Posted 29 February 2020 - 09:28 PM

That feel when you come to this thread expecting new deals or info and you just see more stupid arguments and irellevancy.

This. On topic, brickseek finally shows a TMNT cabinet for $299 in SoCal where these things never seem to get discounted since we don’t live in the boonies in Texas or Alabama. Will pick this up tomorrow to go with the Marvel and Mk cabs I have.

#1794 Jurai  

Posted 29 February 2020 - 10:13 PM

This. On topic, brickseek finally shows a TMNT cabinet for $299 in SoCal where these things never seem to get discounted since we don’t live in the boonies in Texas or Alabama. Will pick this up tomorrow to go with the Marvel and Mk cabs I have.


Thanks for the tip, bought them all, my grandkids say thanks

#1795 doctorwolf   CAG Newbie CAGiversary!   212 Posts   Joined 7.3 Years Ago  

doctorwolf

Posted 01 March 2020 - 12:43 AM

That feel when you come to this thread expecting new deals or info and you just see more stupid arguments and irellevancy.


This comment is hilarious. Perfectly captures what I've felt so many times when seeing this thread bumped, erroneously thinking the new comment will actually have something to do with the title.

To try to avoid doing that with this very comment, I'll try to at least offer some insight. Within the last couple weeks, TMNT:

1) has been deeply discounted on the navy website
2) has been slightly discounted $30 on walmart.com (still available btw)
3) per the above, has started seeing discounts in the traditionally resilient socal market

Long story short, I predict these are going to start seeing deep discounts. If you've held out this long, I would suggest hanging in there and not biting on anything higher than $200. My guess is these things are completely overstocked and there is pressure to clear them out for something else. Those recent signals above would seem to support this.

Again, do not fall for the current marginal discount bait they are throwing out and keep the pressure on the retailers.

#1796 SgtWiggles   Artist formally known as dgwillia CAGiversary!   11433 Posts   Joined 11.3 Years Ago  

Posted 01 March 2020 - 02:13 AM

This comment is hilarious. Perfectly captures what I've felt so many times when seeing this thread bumped, erroneously thinking the new comment will actually have something to do with the title.

To try to avoid doing that with this very comment, I'll try to at least offer some insight. Within the last couple weeks, TMNT:

1) has been deeply discounted on the navy website
2) has been slightly discounted $30 on walmart.com (still available btw)
3) per the above, has started seeing discounts in the traditionally resilient socal market

Long story short, I predict these are going to start seeing deep discounts. If you've held out this long, I would suggest hanging in there and not biting on anything higher than $200. My guess is these things are completely overstocked and there is pressure to clear them out for something else. Those recent signals above would seem to support this.

Again, do not fall for the current marginal discount bait they are throwing out and keep the pressure on the retailers.


Hoping this one or the SF2 cabinets drop soon. Noticed every single store here seems to have a buttload of these as well that aren't selling. This is probably the only cabinet I could justify scooping up the moment it hits 200

#1797 doctorwolf   CAG Newbie CAGiversary!   212 Posts   Joined 7.3 Years Ago  

doctorwolf

Posted 01 March 2020 - 04:06 AM

Hoping this one or the SF2 cabinets drop soon. Noticed every single store here seems to have a buttload of these as well that aren't selling. This is probably the only cabinet I could justify scooping up the moment it hits 200


I'd recommend staying far away from that SF2 one. That was the first one I ever bought and it was so horrible it almost made me never want to buy another one of these again.

On top of that, they're also (supposedly) releasing a better version. I myself will be picking that one up (once it goes on clearance of course).

Customer anticipation for clearance prices on yet-to-be-released products. Talk about a reputation for a company to be proud of. This business model confuses the s**t out of me.

#1798 GodOfRandom  

GodOfRandom

Posted 01 March 2020 - 10:21 AM

Is here anyone collecting air hockey tables or who knows about them more than average person. Here is the list, see the Lumen model with digital scoreboard?  I'm just wondering how often in these systems scoreboards get broken? We just need to order a couple of these tables and I don't want get f*ucked up later, because something is wrong with them, but these look fine to compare with other models from there



#1799 darkdaze73   Serious Fisherman CAGiversary!   528 Posts   Joined 12.3 Years Ago  

Posted 01 March 2020 - 02:33 PM

Is here anyone collecting air hockey tables or who knows about them more than average person. Here is the list, see the Lumen model with digital scoreboard?  I'm just wondering how often in these systems scoreboards get broken? We just need to order a couple of these tables and I don't want get f*ucked up later, because something is wrong with them, but these look fine to compare with other models from there

Not collecting, but I have a Sportcraft hockey table I picked up years ago on clearance from Sears for $125. I had to track down a fan for it on Ebay as it was missing from the box. It's been pretty solid so far.



#1800 KrAzY3   The 3 is silent. CAGiversary!   673 Posts   Joined 15.5 Years Ago  

Posted 01 March 2020 - 04:53 PM

I'd recommend staying far away from that SF2 one. That was the first one I ever bought and it was so horrible it almost made me never want to buy another one of these again.

There a revision that's a slight improvement, but yeah it's pretty bad. They actually released an arcade game where the controllers made it virtually impossible to do some moves on said game. It's also got audio issues on top of that. And I think only ones ordered from Amazon came with a deck protector.

If people didn't gut them anyway, there would have been a lot more complaints.