[Vinny]

FF13 released December 2009, -2 released December 2011, -3 released November 2013.

There is no reason in my mind to expect Part 2 any sooner then two years, and given the switch to PS5 in that time frame, there may or may not be a PS4 release.

 

I think two things to consider are 1) SE seems to be functioning much better now than they did back then, and 2) they're using Unreal Engine now vs their own proprietary engine back then. They've already laid a lot of the groundwork in FF7R so I think that the 2nd installment will likely pick up a large portion of the game. 

 

Whatever the case, I'm in the final 3 chapters of the game, really hoping it keeps up. It's been great so far. 

[elessar123]

They've already laid a lot of the groundwork in FF7R so I think that the 2nd installment will likely pick up a large portion of the game.

While most of your points were true, the setting completely changes. I don't know how much they can really re-use.

[blueweltall]

The PS5 is suppose to be easier to develop for than all the previous generation, so the wait shouldn't be that long compare to 23 years. I think there is a chance that FFXVI will be out first than the second FFVII remake though.

[Dr_dreadful]

While most of your points were true, the setting completely changes. I don't know how much they can really re-use.

 

A lot of the hard work is done though like character design, art style, combat, and so on. Undoubtedly a lot of what took so long on part 1 is they had to settle on how they would do it. Now it's just a matter of building more with the blueprints they already have.

 

Course it's just a theory though and I don't have any real insight.

[Cloudx9]

I think two things to consider are 1) SE seems to be functioning much better now than they did back then, and 2) they're using Unreal Engine now vs their own proprietary engine back then. They've already laid a lot of the groundwork in FF7R so I think that the 2nd installment will likely pick up a large portion of the game.

Whatever the case, I'm in the final 3 chapters of the game, really hoping it keeps up. It's been great so far.

Can't wait till know your reaction to how part 1 ends.

[Stele]

A lot of the hard work is done though like character design, art style, combat, and so on. Undoubtedly a lot of what took so long on part 1 is they had to settle on how they would do it. Now it's just a matter of building more with the blueprints they already have.

Course it's just a theory though and I don't have any real insight.

A lot of SE’s dysfunction isn’t technical, it’s management and project management issues. Unless they fired all their top brass and some of their functional leaders, most of their problems are still there.

[chnandler_bong]

I'm going to ride the wave of OT comments and ask a question about the game itself:

 

Do I need to play FF7 in order to fully enjoy FF7R?  I've only played the earlier FF games and the later FF games and none of the games in the middle.

[tukai]

I'm going to ride the wave of OT comments and ask a question about the game itself:

 

Do I need to play FF7 in order to fully enjoy FF7R?  I've only played the earlier FF games and the later FF games and none of the games in the middle.

 Short answer No

 

Long answer No

[itzd4n]

I'm going to ride the wave of OT comments and ask a question about the game itself:

Do I need to play FF7 in order to fully enjoy FF7R? I've only played the earlier FF games and the later FF games and none of the games in the middle.

Each numbered mainline FF game is self contained story wise, as well as characters (for the most part) so you can play any of them as you please.

[Tothoro]

A lot of the hard work is done though like character design, art style, combat, and so on. Undoubtedly a lot of what took so long on part 1 is they had to settle on how they would do it. Now it's just a matter of building more with the blueprints they already have.

 

Course it's just a theory though and I don't have any real insight.

This is consistent with how game development usually works. Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask is a good parallel. The engine and key assets already exist so development of future iterations should be easier and quicker.

 

Should being the operative term. Knowing Square, it's possible they'll redo the engine to be optimized with PS5 and re-release FF7R Part One Final Mix with an extra secret boss for $60 before moving on to Part Two.

[chnandler_bong]

Each numbered mainline FF game is self contained story wise, as well as characters (for the most part) so you can play any of them as you please.

This is one of those rare instances where there are two FF games in the same world.  Technically they are the same game, so in that regard I can probably skip the original.  But on the other hand, the original is more of an RPG so they are different experiences.

 

The main thing is I don't want to jump into the Remake if not experiencing the original first is a bad idea.

[FlawlesslyFatal]

This is one of those rare instances where there are two FF games in the same world.  Technically they are the same game, so in that regard I can probably skip the original.  But on the other hand, the original is more of an RPG so they are different experiences.

 

The main thing is I don't want to jump into the Remake if not experiencing the original first is a bad idea.

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FF7R is NOT a 100% 1:1 remake, certain things are deviated from the OG. Currently, there are criticisms/speculations whether the next parts will stay canon.

[Starcrest]

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FF7R is NOT a 100% 1:1 remake, certain things are deviated from the OG. Currently, there are criticisms/speculations whether the next parts will stay canon.

So ...

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Aerith won’t be killed, and cloud will go from cross dressing to full blown transgender surgery?

[FlawlesslyFatal]

So ...

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Aerith won’t be killed, and cloud will go from cross dressing to full blown transgender surgery?

Only Nomura & co. would know

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after all, Biggs somehow survived

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[ismegamanthere]

This is one of those rare instances where there are two FF games in the same world.  Technically they are the same game, so in that regard I can probably skip the original.  But on the other hand, the original is more of an RPG so they are different experiences.

 

The main thing is I don't want to jump into the Remake if not experiencing the original first is a bad idea.

"More" of an RPG? It IS an RPG. For people who haven't played the original, I highly suggest you do so, because it's an entirely different experience from the remake (I don't mean that in a negative way, either).

[itzd4n]

This is one of those rare instances where there are two FF games in the same world. Technically they are the same game, so in that regard I can probably skip the original. But on the other hand, the original is more of an RPG so they are different experiences.

The main thing is I don't want to jump into the Remake if not experiencing the original first is a bad idea.

Except your question was if you need to play the original to enjoy the remake. Basically, my answer is the same as the other person who posted before me: no, you don't.

If you feel you have to play one before the other, that's a personal choice, but it seems like you're looking for people to tell you to do exactly that instead.

[chnandler_bong]

"More" of an RPG? It IS an RPG. For people who haven't played the original, I highly suggest you do so, because it's an entirely different experience from the remake (I don't mean that in a negative way, either).

I put it that way because I assume that there are some RPG elements in FF7R also, like maybe RPG Lite.

 

Except your question was if you need to play the original to enjoy the remake. Basically, my answer is the same as the other person who posted before me: no, you don't.

If you feel you have to play one before the other, that's a personal choice, but it seems like you're looking for people to tell you to do exactly that instead.

Well let me ask the question a different way:

 

If I play FF7R, would I still enjoy the original?  I think I know the answer to this would be yes because I'm a sucker for the old school turn-based RPGs, but I'm always appreciative of the insight of others.

[Romeo]

I put it that way because I assume that there are some RPG elements in FF7R also, like maybe RPG Lite.

 

Well let me ask the question a different way:

 

If I play FF7R, would I still enjoy the original?  I think I know the answer to this would be yes because I'm a sucker for the old school turn-based RPGs, but I'm always appreciative of the insight of others.

 

I haven't played the original in 20 years. I'm considering getting it digitally for PS4 and to replay it (pretty much a whole new game to me two decades later) before playing FF7 R chapter 1. I know the story of the real game is significant from what I recall of it.

 

A similarity I would probably use is watching Star Wars Force Awakens and the new trilogy without seeing the original series that started it all. It can be watched on its own yet you'll have a greater understanding and appreciation if you started from the beginning.

[blueweltall]

If you haven't played the original FFVII yet, you might as well play the new remake version. You do not need to play the original to understand or appreciate FFVII remake. The original core story is still there.

Do not take advice from someone who hasn't played the Remake, they do not know what they are talking about again. FFVII Remake is the beginning of the FFVII story.

[Romeo]

If you haven't played the original FFVII yet, you might as well play the new remake version. You do not need to play the original to understand or appreciate FFVII remake. The original core story is still there.

Do not take advice from someone who hasn't played the Remake, they do not know what they are talking about again. FFVII Remake is the beginning of the FFVII story.

 

 

Who here has not played the new remaster and given advice on which to play or not to play?

[Rick Astley]

Still waiting on a Metal Gear Series Remake

[blueweltall]

Do you trust Konami to handle it?

[addicted2games]

Do you trust Konami to handle it?

Not without Kojima

[macm_gamer]

Not without Kojima

I think blue point is making it

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[addicted2games]

I think blue point is making it

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Oh ok, they did a good job on the Nathan Drake Collection

[Rick Astley]

Hope the rumors of Sony trying to buy MGS and/or silent hills is Lowkey true

[gospelman]

Well let me ask the question a different way:

 

If I play FF7R, would I still enjoy the original?  I think I know the answer to this would be yes because I'm a sucker for the old school turn-based RPGs, but I'm always appreciative of the insight of others.

If you like old school turn-based rpgs and somehow haven't played the original FFVII, then I strongly recommend doing so.  It's a masterpiece.  Remake is not, but is excellent at it's best points insofar as it pays homage to this masterpiece.

 

Anyway, I finished Remake tonight and

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can confidently say that it's a good but not great game on its own.  A lot of the added enjoyment will come from fondness of the original.  And honestly, Remake is told in a way where a new player will be much more confused after the point of leaving midgar than someone playing the original.  There's more screen time given to plot elements such as sephiroth, jenova, and zack - all of which won't fit at all for a new player. 

 

And I really hope I never see another whisper again. 8+/10  (big + for nostaligia).

[Nothing-]

It's really hard to know what to recommend first.

 

FF7 is pretty dated by today's terms and with all the bluster you've read online it would be quite anticlimactic to play it now for the first time while expecting it to be the best game ever.   At the same time, it is exceptionally hard to imagine how interesting FF7R would be to someone who has no reference to all the story beats from the original;  Even though it stands on its own merits, it's highly nostalgia based.  The gameplay isn't that amazing; it's more atmospheric and reflective, and it extrapolates on the original with a LOT of extra padding. 

[Jakegreensego]

It's really hard to know what to recommend first.

FF7 is pretty dated by today's terms and with all the bluster you've read online it would be quite anticlimactic to play it now for the first time while expecting it to be the best game ever. At the same time, it is exceptionally hard to imagine how interesting FF7R would be to someone who has no reference to all the beats from the original; Even though it stands on its own merits, it's highly nostalgia based. The gameplay isn't that amazing; it's more atmospheric and reflective, and it extrapolates on the original with a LOT of extra padding.

Unfortunately I am one of those who did not play the original and can attest to what your saying. FFXV was my first FF game and I played every part of that game down to the secret dungeons and obtaining the black hood in the pitios ruins. With the remake, I could appreciate what was there but it did not capture me although I do plan to go back and try it again. I say unfortunately because I wish I could jump in on all the excitement, I had the same experience with shadow of the colossus, missed it the first time and didn’t get too excited playing the remake. Here’s hoping they remake metal gear solid so I can get that sweet hit of nostalgia.


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[Fuzzmeister]

Unfortunately I am one of those who did not play the original and can attest to what your saying. FFXV was my first FF game and I played every part of that game down to the secret dungeons and obtaining the black hood in the pitios ruins. With the remake, I could appreciate what was there but it did not capture me although I do plan to go back and try it again. I say unfortunately because I wish I could jump in on all the excitement, I had the same experience with shadow of the colossus, missed it the first time and didn’t get too excited playing the remake. Here’s hoping they remake metal gear solid so I can get that sweet hit of nostalgia.


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I played the shadow of the colossus remake for about 30 minutes and didn't like it at all.  I kept the fancy steelbook and traded the game in.  It was not interesting at all.  I wasn't super into the FF7 remake demo but it seemed ok.  The cutscenes felt like a 90s game and made it hard to get super into what was going on.  I played neither original version of those games. I fully understand some of the remakes not aging well.

 

Some more recent games that were popular that I couldn't get into but liked the steelbooks were Persona 5, Fire Emblem Three Houses, and Death Stranding. P5 I played for a few hours and don't think I got to any of the "dungeons".  Death Stranding I'm in chapter 4 or 5 I think.  I'm trying to push through, but some of the areas are getting too rocky to be enjoyable to traverse.  It's made me at little less likely to jump on a game for the steelbook. It costs too much to end up with a game I don't like.