[quote name='007']Joe is one of those guys that lives and dies based on how he's presented. The monster Joe, for me, was really the last time he even remotely worked, and that was a loooooong time ago now.
Problem one? That
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ing name. Destroying people worked well enough that he moved past that, but still. Samoa Joe. That's basically a name one of the AKI guys from WCW/nWo Revenge would have.
Problem two? His entire look. Can he kick people's ass? Sure. Doesn't change the fact that's he's a fat guy with a babyface wearing two-tone bicycle shorts.
He's talented, sure, but it's a fine line to keep him in a place where he 'works'. It's why I've never understood the calls to send him to WWE... no way they'd get him right. No way.[/QUOTE]
I can agree with that for sure. I think that's probably my biggest problem with Joe as well, as I think he's fine if he doesn't talk and just walks in and stomps people and bounces. For Joe to work in WWE, he'd need to simply come in, march down the ramp, maul anyone who's near and roll out without a word.
They tried that with Vladimir Koslov, and you saw how that worked. They
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ed it up by putting his broken ass on the mic and ruined his monster vibe. Same thing TNA did to Abyss when he started talking. If you want someone to be dominate shut them the
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up and just let them kick ass, which imo is why Lashley worked so well at first.