Absolutely. My e-pen0r is bigger than ever!Lol, was it worth it? :lol:
After I beat him, I was like Arnold:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU7tBHvcG1s
When I realized how much time I spent on it, I felt like Bill Duke.
Absolutely. My e-pen0r is bigger than ever!Lol, was it worth it? :lol:
I wonder if there's a way to do this with the Xbox. I only got this on Xbox because some of my Destiny raid group was going to get it - then they didn't. Otherwise I would have played on PS like I did with all the other games.I'm almost done with the plat for this game. Just need to boost rings and covenant items. PS+ Save Sliming works wonders. If someone can help me out, I'll gladly do it for others in the future.
This guy. Lol, figured you were dead or something.Anyone here playing on Xbox One? There is no thread in the MS forum for this game. I'm right at the end of my first playthrough and am farming the covenant items (ugh - worst part of these games). I could really use some help with the vertebrate shackles. I have a whopping ONE. I'm going to try some PvP tonight but I don't think it will go well. I tried as a white phantom and I'd get summoned and continually backstabbed from the front - highly annoying. I haven't actually tried it as a red phantom yet though. I guess with that you can get lucky and have the host die from other phantoms/enemies and get them that way. I'm not counting on it though. I was doing the white phantom summons as a darkmoon and was expecting to get the covenant items when red/purple/Aldrich phantoms were killed - but I never got anything even when we did kill one.
I heard with a friend you can just use a password summon and kill each other for the mound makers stuff at least.
I also still have to farm for the swordgrass and darkmoon covenant stuff. But the swordgrass drops pretty frequently from the guys by Abyss Watchers. I already have 15 or 16. The Darkmoon items drop rate is crap, but at least farming the silver knights gets you a lot of large titanite shards and souls so I don't mind that quite so much. I have 8 in about 2 hours of farming (using symbol of avarice, the rapier, the ring, and rusted coin).
I have no idea how the Darkmoon or any of the blue covenants work. They seem to always be broken in these games, even in DS 2 on the PS3 when I played that. I have never once been summoned to help while a member of the blue sentinels or darkmoon. So it seems the only way to get those items is to farm.
Vertebrate shackles, though, are an atrocious drop rate off of an annoying and not common enemy. I did several runs through there and didn't get one.
Oh it's you. Yeah, the usefulness of this thread just went to crap .This guy. Lol, figured you were dead or something.
Yeah, the PvP balance for this game is totally out of whack with quite a few one hit kill weapons via riposte and with poise being changed for the worse it becomes a "who struck first" scenario. You could always try the Dark Blade if it hasn't been nerfed to hell yet since it is super cheese and all you need to do is land an attack to stun-lock over and over. Another popular one is the Dragonslayer Swordspear, but you'll need to beat Nameless King for it. It has a built-in spell that catches most people off-guard by dropping a lightning bolt on their head and is semi-hard to dodge but can be blocked (not many shields absorb lightning well). There was also a slide in honor for PvP that I noticed, with maybe half of the people I'd fight healing first so I'm sure you're having to deal with that as well.Oh it's you. Yeah, the usefulness of this thread just went to crap .
I have a friend on Xbox One who I think will help me with the shackles. I tried some more PvP last night and got one of them from that at the area outside the Pontiff bonfire. I got summoned as a purple phantom and as I was trying to find the host, a red phantom killed him and I got the shackle. So yay I guess. I just have no idea how to put together a PvP build. It seems everyone I try to fight has one-shot super weapons and mine, even though they are upgraded and infused, take 5-6 hits to kill someone and I can never get that many in before they back off to heal and then inevitably get their one super-shot in.
Ah, that riposte thing - that's the backstabbing from the front bullshit I guess. It used to happen in DS2 a lot but it was lagstabbing back then - where someone was in front of you and then all of a sudden they were behind and backstabbing but because of the lag you never saw it coming. Maybe they fixed that though - I only played DS2 right when it first came out.Yeah, the PvP balance for this game is totally out of whack with quite a few one hit kill weapons via riposte and with poise being changed for the worse it becomes a "who struck first" scenario. You could always try the Dark Blade if it hasn't been nerfed to hell yet since it is super cheese and all you need to do is land an attack to stun-lock over and over. Another popular one is the Dragonslayer Swordspear, but you'll need to beat Nameless King for it. It has a built-in spell that catches most people off-guard by dropping a lightning bolt on their head and is semi-hard to dodge but can be blocked (not many shields absorb lightning well).
Did you mean Dark Sword like the post afterwards? I maxed out a Dark Sword and heavy infused it for the strength modifier. I didn't notice any stun locking or big hit box. In fact, I went up against one guy that was hitting me with something repeatedly and clearly not making physical contact. His swings were a good 3-4 feet away and I was getting hit.Jodou said:You could always try the Dark Blade if it hasn't been nerfed to hell yet since it is super cheese and all you need to do is land an attack to stun-lock over and over.
Use 40/40 STR/DEX and refined gem for better output on Dark Sword. It has amazing high damage for low stamina requirement. If someone rolls away from your attack, you can carefully time your swings and get them into stun lock.Did you mean Dark Sword like the post afterwards? I maxed out a Dark Sword and heavy infused it for the strength modifier. I didn't notice any stun locking or big hit box. In fact, I went up against one guy that was hitting me with something repeatedly and clearly not making physical contact. His swings were a good 3-4 feet away and I was getting hit.
Then I took on another guy and I hit him twice, took half his health, and then he did some pyro attack where he like reached into my chest and did 1000+ damage for an insta-kill. What the freaking was that!?
I did pick up a few more shackles - but both times it was while I was waiting my turn to go one-on-one with the host and another phantom took him out first. It seems there is a lot of this Fight Club stuff going on where the host summons multiple people, and they all sit and take turns doing one-on-one battles either with the host or each other. So I suppose I could eventually cheese my way to 30 of them by waiting and seeing if other people kill the host. But god that is boring - though not as bad as farming for the concord items. Holy hell that is mind-numbing.
Neither of my stats is that high. I'm more like 30 STR 20 DEX or something like that. I had been putting a lot into END so I could swing more - but it never seems to last long. Also, I can't time shit. My "timing" is that I time my whiff perfectly for the other guy to front-stab me...gthirst said:Use 40/40 STR/DEX and refined gem for better output on Dark Sword. It has amazing high damage for low stamina requirement. If someone rolls away from your attack, you can carefully time your swings and get them into stun lock.
Oops, yeah Dark Sword. As the post above explained, 40 STR/DEX will maximize output with it. Just in case you weren't aware, they 'balanced' this game so that 40 of any primary stat is the damage cap for a weapon, so any points beyond will do nothing unlike previous games where there were soft caps and had diminishing returns. I wish they hadn't changed how stats worked from game to game to game because flipping between them is annoying. I'm still playing through DS2 (Guardian_Owl even stopped by to say hey on my stream ) and trying to remember the differences between these two games and talk about them is confusing lol. Moreso, each time they added stats or changes it just got worse. Ah well, we can still hope for a DS or DS1 remaster, right? Right??Did you mean Dark Sword like the post afterwards? I maxed out a Dark Sword and heavy infused it for the strength modifier. I didn't notice any stun locking or big hit box.
Interesting. I picked up Bloodborne on PS4 a while back during some sale but haven't cracked it open. I suppose rather than trying to get DS 2 for the Xbox One and replaying it there (after getting the plat on PS3 when it first came out) I should try Bloodborne first. Is it pretty much the same type of game with the same structure (bonfire-like checkpoints, enemy respawns, summoning, covenants, etc)?gthirst said:Bloodborne is still better in almost every way though.
I love the password system that Bloodborne implemented and it being added to Dark Souls. It makes me free to do what I want and not be restricted to play with friends no matter how high or low level they are.Co-op with friends and passwords just made such a better experience for me.
Haha...more like stubborn. One thing's for sure, I want to go back and play Demon's Souls again. Is it worth it or is it going to be super jarring since it's quite a few years old?You're a trooper, I couldn't touch that game again after playing DS2 lol. I think there was a dropoff of players for it though, ever since the game was on sale I think a bunch of people played but are gone again now. I was trying to find some PvP on the Iron Keep bridge but there were barely ever summon signs anymore. Sigh, guess I'll just move on to MGSV since getting it for $20 on Memorial Day.
RIP Souls, it was real.
Very jarring given all the changes Dark Souls introduced and far more brutal in terms of punishing. They could still release a remaster but I'd be surprised if they did before a Dark Souls remaster since for many players that was their first game. Servers are still up and running for Demon's though, so it's not like the experience would change all that much. I fired it up not too long ago to see if I was still in the hall of fame for souls collected and sure enough, there I was in the top 10 ha. Plenty of comments littered the floor so people are still playing it as well.Haha...more like stubborn. One thing's for sure, I want to go back and play Demon's Souls again. Is it worth it or is it going to be super jarring since it's quite a few years old?
It's very simple: poise in every game except DSIII would factor how many times you could be hit before you staggered (aka your character would be interrupted while attacking or moving). Think about how you might be attacking a boss or player and you might take a hit while doing so but NOT be interrupted and could continue swinging away. That is how poise used to work but if you noticed in DSIII, ANY attack you take while trying to move or attack will interrupt you now. This is why Dark Sword and a few other weapons were PvP weapons of choice because they did moderate damage very quickly in succession for low stamina cost. In essence, the player who struck first, wins, because the other person would be stuck in a stunlock and could only escape after a few seconds of being a pinata.I never understood Poise in the other games and understand it even less in this one but I'll take a look at that link.
Yeah, anytime they hit me I'd stagger, which is not how it was in previous games. It made it so every single attack had to be clean or else you'd take a hit and stagger. It was in essence their way of strong-arming dodging which I didn't feel added to difficulty, only frustration.Yeah I guess I did have enemies staggering me at times when it didn't seem like they should have.
Much faster paced and not as much gear dependent at all. Get the timing of your dodges down and really work on gun parrying. At first it seemed lame to me and I wanted a more Dark Souls feel but the core of the game really revolves around landing those gun counters to stagger pretty much anything for a visceral attack.So I'll probably start Bloodborne soon. Any tips for that? In what ways is it different than Dark Souls?
Ugh, I hate parrying - could never do it in Dark Souls.Much faster paced and not as much gear dependent at all. Get the timing of your dodges down and really work on gun parrying. At first it seemed lame to me and I wanted a more Dark Souls feel but the core of the game really revolves around landing those gun counters to stagger pretty much anything for a visceral attack.
I made it halfway through BB without using the gun so it's not a requirement. TBH any tutorial on how to use it was lost on me and I can't remember if they even had one. I also never finished the game because I simply didn't like the combat as much as souls games. I would still try it and not let parries worry you.Ugh, I hate parrying - could never do it in Dark Souls.
Seconded; love Souls, not fond of BB. Just feels a lot clunkier.I also never finished the game because I simply didn't like the combat as much as souls games.
You can definitely make it through the game without parrying yeah. I went through the first half without ever touching it because I wasn't a fan but then once I started using it halfway through I realized how much the game seemed to built around that ability and was able to more easily take down high level stuff.I made it halfway through BB without using the gun so it's not a requirement. TBH any tutorial on how to use it was lost on me and I can't remember if they even had one. I also never finished the game because I simply didn't like the combat as much as souls games. I would still try it and not let parries worry you.
Strange, I personally feel like 'clunky' is a word that best describes Dark Souls. Not in a bad way though but more of just the way it is supposed to play. Bloodborne is way faster and much more fluid with its moves and animations I thought.Seconded; love Souls, not fond of BB. Just feels a lot clunkier.
Honestly that was also an impression I got at first from DS, but I think it grew on me a LOT better than BB. I think I just got built up a lot by the BB hype, and was disappointed when I set my expectations too high. Hearing everyone talk about it so much around here though makes me almost want to go back and try it again, but I haven't even opened DS III yet, and that's a lot higher up on my list.Strange, I personally feel like 'clunky' is a word that best describes Dark Souls. Not in a bad way though but more of just the way it is supposed to play. Bloodborne is way faster and much more fluid with its moves and animations I thought.
Both are great, I still of course would agree and say Dark Souls is better but my personal ranking would probably be Dark Souls, Dark Souls 3, Bloodborne, Demon Souls and then Dark Souls 2. So right about the middle ; P
Dark Souls 2 was by no means a bad game in my mind, just the others are that much better. The original Demons Souls is just amazing, largely because of what it did. It was so groundbreaking and just floored me the first time I played it. Dark Souls I still think is the sweet spot in the series. The bosses were super original and fun to fight and the world itself was probably the most interconnected map in all the games thus far. As an avid fan of the series, hearing you have so many of the titles in your backlog makes me sad haha call in sick for a week and just play all the games : )Honestly that was also an impression I got at first from DS, but I think it grew on me a LOT better than BB. I think I just got built up a lot by the BB hype, and was disappointed when I set my expectations too high. Hearing everyone talk about it so much around here though makes me almost want to go back and try it again, but I haven't even opened DS III yet, and that's a lot higher up on my list.
I'm kind of surprised you ranked DS 2 so low. That was my first exposure to the series, and I have both DS and DS 3 waiting for once I (finally) beat it. So that makes me even more interested in getting to play those 2 at least.
Haha, unfortunately I work from home, and my girlfriend is around a lot, so it's hard to get a full week to myself; but I get what you're saying. Still, they've been heavy on my radar. I've been straight grinding on DS 2 as well, so I've thought about going ahead and playing bits and pieces of the others, just to switch it up a little bit, but I'm not big on trying to remember divergent control schemes. I would imagine though that being the same series, there's a strong enough similarity between the different games' controls to make them intuitive?Dark Souls 2 was by no means a bad game in my mind, just the others are that much better. The original Demons Souls is just amazing, largely because of what it did. It was so groundbreaking and just floored me the first time I played it. Dark Souls I still think is the sweet spot in the series. The bosses were super original and fun to fight and the world itself was probably the most interconnected map in all the games thus far. As an avid fan of the series, hearing you have so many of the titles in your backlog makes me sad haha call in sick for a week and just play all the games : )
I understand hah I work from home too and it seems like 'oh you would be able to game all day' but that is most definitely not the case!Haha, unfortunately I work from home, and my girlfriend is around a lot, so it's hard to get a full week to myself; but I get what you're saying. Still, they've been heavy on my radar. I've been straight grinding on DS 2 as well, so I've thought about going ahead and playing bits and pieces of the others, just to switch it up a little bit, but I'm not big on trying to remember divergent control schemes. I would imagine though that being the same series, there's a strong enough similarity between the different games' controls to make them intuitive?
Also, I'm not deep into the lore, but is there any obvious relevance of one story to another? Like if I play DS 3 before I really get into 1, is it gonna feel like I missed something? I get a sense of continuity with the whole "only embers remain" theme, but I jumped into 2 with few problems in terms of understanding what was going on.
I'll have to look for Demon Souls. Seen that recommended quite a lot, too, and I'm definitely interested to see where this series came from.