Election Day 2012: I Voted for Kodos

[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']Ah yes, a bunch of Republicans are about to start pretending they havent been for the Electoral College.

I'll trade you Obama for Gore if you've got a time machine though. Thats an easy trade.[/QUOTE]

No kidding. The hypocrisy is overwhelming.
 
[quote name='Clak']And I'm sure that back in 2000 this pissed you off just as much, right?

Take this bullshit and peddle it elsewhere.[/QUOTE]

Past elections don't make a difference now, as you should probably know if you got past the first grade.

Now>Past

No matter that you can't see clearly when you are hanging off of Obama's balls all day and night but whether you support Demos or Repubs, you should be in favor of the popular vote. It doesn't matter if the result was the same, it would be a purer finish that nobody can really complain about. TRUE majority voting rules. Whether you're 5 people voting for a pizza topping or 100 million voting on a President, it makes the most sense to have every vote be equally important.
 
[quote name='Thekrakrabbit']Past elections don't make a difference now, as you should probably know if you got past the first grade.

Now>Past

No matter that you can't see clearly when you are hanging off of Obama's balls all day and night but whether you support Demos or Repubs, you should be in favor of the popular vote. It doesn't matter if the result was the same, it would be a purer finish that nobody can really complain about. TRUE majority voting rules. Whether you're 5 people voting for a pizza topping or 100 million voting on a President, it makes the most sense to have every vote be equally important.[/QUOTE]

Hey, I like big black balls as much as the next guy, but let's keep it civil in here.
 
I didn't vote for either of them so I don't care that much, but I'm not sure why they called Ohio. With 80.4% in, it's 49.2% to 49.2%. There's a larger gap in Florida with 96% in and they haven't called that state yet. I guess the remaining Ohio counties are for Democrat, but this seems close enough to start lawsuits over.
 
It is a race for each news source to call a state and when a state as important as Ohio could be called, it is basically a race for CNN/CBS/Fox, etc. to call the entire election by calling Ohio.
 
The war that was really lost tonight was the one being fought by moderate Republicans vs the right wing elements of their party. They're going to tack hard to the right towards the culture warrior and tea party elements.

I see them shifting on immigration in order to attract the Hispanic population which is largely religious and very socially conservative. They'll likely put one on the ticket in 2016, possibly a woman as well. Romney could never pursue this as he lacked credibility with the right on social issues and had to toe the line on immigration or he would've never made it through the primaries. Tacking to the center will be seen as a losing strategy going forward, they'll go back to the Bush strategy of going hard at the conservative base.

I'm not even really that mad about Obama, though it's unfortunate the gridlock will continue. What I'm appalled by is that fake indian from Oklahoma becoming my Senator entirely by insulting the intelligence of women. That was her whole campaign. I'm quite pissed off about that.
 
Chuck Todd on NBC just explained why they called Ohio. The uncounted votes were ~750k from heavy blue and like ~150k from the red. Something that didnt look very plausible.

I didnt vote for either of them also. I voted for Jerry White, of the Socialist Equality Party.
 
[quote name='Thekrakrabbit']Past elections don't make a difference now, as you should probably know if you got past the first grade.

Now>Past

No matter that you can't see clearly when you are hanging off of Obama's balls all day and night but whether you support Demos or Repubs, you should be in favor of the popular vote. It doesn't matter if the result was the same, it would be a purer finish that nobody can really complain about. TRUE majority voting rules. Whether you're 5 people voting for a pizza topping or 100 million voting on a President, it makes the most sense to have every vote be equally important.[/QUOTE]
Do STFU. Had this turned out differently you wouldn't even have a problem with it. Take your disingenuous ass somewhere else and bother them.
 
LOL

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[quote name='Thekrakrabbit']Past elections don't make a difference now, as you should probably know if you got past the first grade.

Now>Past

No matter that you can't see clearly when you are hanging off of Obama's balls all day and night but whether you support Demos or Repubs, you should be in favor of the popular vote. It doesn't matter if the result was the same, it would be a purer finish that nobody can really complain about. TRUE majority voting rules. Whether you're 5 people voting for a pizza topping or 100 million voting on a President, it makes the most sense to have every vote be equally important.[/QUOTE]

Ahahahahahahahahaha. Hahahaha. Ha.


Hahah.

Anyways, just an FYI the final popular vote has yet to be tallied.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']The war that was really lost tonight was the one being fought by moderate Republicans vs the right wing elements of their party. They're going to tack hard to the right towards the culture warrior and tea party elements.

I see them shifting on immigration in order to attract the Hispanic population which is largely religious and very socially conservative. They'll likely put one on the ticket in 2016. Romney could never pursue this as he lacked credibility with the right on social issues and had to toe the line on immigration or he would've never made it through the primaries. Tacking to the center will be seen as a losing strategy going forward, they'll go back to the Bush strategy of going hard at the conservative base.

I'm not even really that mad about Obama, though it's unfortunate the gridlock will continue. What I'm appalled by is that fake indian from Oklahoma becoming my Senator entirely by insulting the intelligence of women. That was her whole campaign. I'm quite pissed off about that.[/QUOTE]

She's the #1 enemy of Wall Street, gg in my book.

Also loling @ krakrabbit suddenly wanting to elect presidents by popular vote when his bro wins it.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']What I'm appalled by is that fake indian from Oklahoma becoming my Senator entirely by insulting the intelligence of women. That was her whole campaign.[/QUOTE]
Haha, good luck with that. Nothing I voted for is going to go my way in my state either.
 
[quote name='Clak']Do STFU. Had this turned out differently you wouldn't even have a problem with it. Take your disingenuous ass somewhere else and bother them.[/QUOTE]

Whether or not Romney won I would have still be thinking the electoral vote is the wrong system to have in place. You are blinded because your savior won the election, but you should be able to see past the celebrations and realize that a popular vote makes the most sense.

Explain to me why certain people's votes should be worth more than others. Come on then, try it.
 
Its gonna have to be 3 forms of picture ID with expiration date, your mother and one of your teachers with you in order to vote in any state with a Republican Governor next time.
 
[quote name='IRHari']She's the #1 enemy of Wall Street, gg in my book.

Also loling @ krakrabbit suddenly wanting to elect presidents by popular vote when his bro wins it.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='cochesecochese']Ahahahahahahahahaha. Hahahaha. Ha.


Hahah.

Anyways, just an FYI the final popular vote has yet to be tallied.[/QUOTE]

I don't think you people are seeing what I'm saying. I don't care if the results are the same every time, the result could not be disputed. It is more simple and superior to the electoral "your vote isn't worth half of mine" system.

Obama could very well win the popular vote at the end of the night but you shouldn't be able to call an election just because two "big" states went one guy's way.
 
Drink every time they mention the Latino vote. My grandfather was born in Jalisco and even I'm sick of it. All this concern over Mexicans and they won't even mention the War on Drugs at a national debate. It's just amazing that we get to this point with so many issues not discussed.
 
[quote name='IRHari']She's the #1 enemy of Wall Street, gg in my book.[/QUOTE]
That's not what she ran on because she couldn't. Brown voted for Dodd-Frank and the Consumer Protection Act.

Her campaign was, Scott Brown hates women and I have a vagina. Enough women buying that is what won her the election.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']That's not what she ran on because she couldn't. Brown voted for Dodd-Frank and the Consumer Protection Act.

Her campaign was, Scott Brown hates women and I have a vagina.[/QUOTE]
When in doubt, pander to women.
 
(D) President
(D) Senate
(R) House

fucking america, your "pivotal vote" resulted in zero change. At least in Serbia we tried to kill the opposition party...
 
No one is defending the EC. Liberals have VASTLY been more for popular election of the President. 8 states + DC have passed legislation in that whole interstate national vote plan, where if enough states pass it that collectively have 270, they will all throw their electors to the winner of the national vote. All 8 states are deep blue.
 
[quote name='Thekrakrabbit']I don't think you people are seeing what I'm saying. I don't care if the results are the same every time, the result could not be disputed. It is more simple and superior to the electoral "your vote isn't worth half of mine" system.

Obama could very well win the popular vote at the end of the night but you shouldn't be able to call an election just because two "big" states went one guy's way.[/QUOTE]

I see exactly what you are saying. The point is this debate was had in the past when Gore won the popular vote and it was shouted down by Republicans. That was a mere 12 years ago.

You can't say that the system works when your guy wins by it and then cry when he loses by it. You lose all credibility. You also can't go back and change the rules after the game is over.

You lost. Deal with it.
 
In the end Obama is going to win popular vote also. Biggest places left are mostly Obama friendly so he is only 120,000 off right now. he will win by 2 million when it is over.
 
He isn't "my guy". I am talking about right now, in this election. If Gore won the popular vote back then, he should have been elected. It is as simple as that.
 
I want to stay up and hear the speeches, but I dont know how much longer I can wait. I understand Romney needs to scribble his speech down with a crayon and call Obama on a real one instead of his Fisher Price phone, but my god, you lost Romney. Throw in the towel so I can go to bed...
 
CNN called Colorado for Obama.

Hopefully that leads to Romney concession soon. Even if Romney somehow won all the close states (OH, VA, FL) Obama still wins with 272, so time to throw in the damn towel (not to mention that he's not winning any of those 3 since outstanding votes are almost all in blue metro areas).
 
I think with Colorado, Romney can just have Ohio AND Florida and it wouldnt matter.

Its all thanks to all the Republican SuperPAC election spending stimulating the economy :)
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']CNN called Colorado for Obama.

Hopefully that leads to Romney concession soon. Even if Romney somehow won all the close states (OH, VA, FL) Obama still wins with 272, so time to throw in the damn towel (not to mention that he's not winning any of those 3 since outstanding votes are almost all in blue metro areas).[/QUOTE]


My home state, Nevada, and my second home, Colorado, go to Obama? Great to hear.
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']I think with Colorado, Romney can just have Ohio AND Florida and it wouldnt matter.
[/QUOTE]

Yep. He can have both of those AND Virginia and Obama still wins with 272 electoral votes.
 
Let's see if Obama keeps his word that sequestration won't happen or if he keeps using it as leverage against the Republicans for tax hikes.
 
Obama and the D's are supposedly committed to not renewing the top rates. The GOP is definitely committed to not raising the top rates. I know you cant exactly count on the Democratic Party standing their ground, but sequestration is looking pretty likely.

If the choices are no sequestration and no tax hikes vs sequestration with tax hikes, I take the latter without hesitation. At the very least Republicans have to admit that cutting spending hurts the economy, unless they are willing to pull some CRAZY gymnastics out.
 
[quote name='4thHorseman']So Romney never had a concession speech written? Jeezus....[/QUOTE]
His ego wouldn't allow for it.
 
Allowing sequestration under any circumstances is batshit insane, as insane as the tea party holding the country hostage over the debt ceiling. Obama doesn't even actually want that to happen.
 
Both sides appear to want it more than to compromise on a relatively small thing. Only one side believes that cutting spending hurts the economy.
 
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