Grammy nominated King Diamond screams "Metal Heads Unite!!"

[quote name='MRJESUS925']I'm kinda anticipating this album. On one hand it has the potential to be decent. Not good or great, but listenable. Or it could suck like St Anger.[/quote]
Nothing can suck as bad as St. Anger...

Metallica: Kidz Bop edition. You heard it here first.
 
[quote name='bardockkun']Nothing can suck as bad as St. Anger...

Metallica: Kidz Bop edition. You heard it here first.
[/quote]

:D:applause:
 
[quote name='MRJESUS925']I'm kinda anticipating this album. On one hand it has the potential to be decent. Not good or great, but listenable. Or it could suck like St Anger.[/QUOTE]

I dare you to find an album that Rick Rubin has produced that is NOT fuckin' amazing.

Given the talent he's working with, of course.

But his legacy speaks for himself. Anything he's hands-on producing (i.e., Slayer's "Christ Illusion" doesn't count) is pure fuckin' gold. The best of every artists' legacy.

Beastie Boys' License to Ill and Paul's Boutique

Danzig I through IV

Johnny Cash's entire American Recordings era

Neil Diamond's two last albums

Red Hot Chili Pepper's Blood Sugar Sex Magik (yeah, yeah, you're too cool to like the Peppers, but this was the best of their albums)

Four Horsemen: Nobody Said it Was Easy

Really, now. Rubin can not be overappreciated. His legacy speak for itself.

That said, I'm still apprehensive. Rubin can make the best out of what he's given, but in this case, he's being given Metallica circa 2007-2008. FWIW.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I dare you to find an album that Rick Rubin has produced that is NOT fuckin' amazing.

Given the talent he's working with, of course.

But his legacy speaks for himself. Anything he's hands-on producing (i.e., Slayer's "Christ Illusion" doesn't count) is pure fuckin' gold. The best of every artists' legacy.

Beastie Boys' License to Ill and Paul's Boutique

Danzig I through IV

Johnny Cash's entire American Recordings era

Neil Diamond's two last albums

Red Hot Chili Pepper's Blood Sugar Sex Magik (yeah, yeah, you're too cool to like the Peppers, but this was the best of their albums)

Four Horsemen: Nobody Said it Was Easy

Really, now. Rubin can not be overappreciated. His legacy speak for itself.

That said, I'm still apprehensive. Rubin can make the best out of what he's given, but in this case, he's being given Metallica circa 2007-2008. FWIW.[/quote]

I love the RHCP. But I always liked Californacation the most.
 
[quote name='Oktoberfest']and the posers who think they're cool because they listen to Dragonforce... rather annoying[/QUOTE]

Almost as annoying as the "I'm so much harder than you" posers who make fun of other bands fans.....
 
And Metallica 2008? I'm going to go on the record and say "Unsavable". When a band goes down that commercial road, they lose the fire they once had to make music....producers can only do so much with a bunch of guys who've grown older and gotten rich. I just dont think they have a story to tell since they don't really even relate to who they are anymore.

Any attempt at recapturing a Master/Ride sound will simply be a bunch of old rich dudes trying to cover off themselves.

I like Robert Plant's attitude towards reforming Led Zeppelin......he basically said that if he and Page were to go on tour again, it would wind up being a bunch of old guys trying to cover their younger selves. Like being their own cover band. I think there's some weight in that...

I just dont think Metallica has the fire they once had because, surprise, they've made it. Kill/Ride/Master/Justice. They had their epic records. Break up and enjoy your cash...
 
I don't want another Ride the Lightning (I do, I really, really do, but I'm semi-realistic)


Just something listenable. I don't mind bands going in new directions, as long as they don't suck.
 
I'm interested to hear what they let Trujillo do on the album. He's a really good bass player so hopefully it's not another Justice or something. Once all those old thrash bands hit a certain age they just lost it. Almost all of them. Megadeth, Exodus, Anthrax, Slayer, Sepultura, Death Angel. So many bands. It's sad really. Too bad all those guys couldn't be like Razor, Sodom, Tankard, etc. But then again that would get boring quick too. Metallica were never really super fast or super heavy to begin with, but whatever "metal" they had went out the window a long time ago. Now it doesn't have to be metal to be good music, but they couldn't even deliver when they changed their sound.

Anyone heard the new Motorhead yet? Anything sound different? Or more of the same sound like their last couple of albums?
 
[quote name='Blackout']Once all those old thrash bands hit a certain age they just lost it. Almost all of them. Megadeth, Exodus, Anthrax, Slayer, Sepultura, Death Angel.[/quote]

Exodus' Shovel Headed Kill Machine wasn't bad and neither was Death Angel's Killing Season as long as you're more open to punk.



[quote name='Blackout']
Anyone heard the new Motorhead yet? Anything sound different? Or more of the same sound like their last couple of albums?[/quote]

More of the same, solid album.
 
I hear the song "Rock Out" the other day and it sounded like Lemmy was singing for The Exploited.

Much faster drumming than I was used to from them.

EDIT: That Metallica song was plodding and boring, save for Hammett's solo.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I dare you to find an album that Rick Rubin has produced that is NOT fuckin' amazing.

Given the talent he's working with, of course.

But his legacy speaks for himself. Anything he's hands-on producing (i.e., Slayer's "Christ Illusion" doesn't count) is pure fuckin' gold. The best of every artists' legacy.

Beastie Boys' License to Ill and Paul's Boutique

Danzig I through IV

Johnny Cash's entire American Recordings era

Neil Diamond's two last albums

Red Hot Chili Pepper's Blood Sugar Sex Magik (yeah, yeah, you're too cool to like the Peppers, but this was the best of their albums)

Four Horsemen: Nobody Said it Was Easy

Really, now. Rubin can not be overappreciated. His legacy speak for itself.

That said, I'm still apprehensive. Rubin can make the best out of what he's given, but in this case, he's being given Metallica circa 2007-2008. FWIW.[/quote]

I was really impressed with Rubin's work on the Trouble albums (unfortunately out of print but I still have my copies). He did make one dud and that was on the AC/DC album Ballbreaker. Nobody's perfect I guess...
 
[quote name='Xevious']I was really impressed with Rubin's work on the Trouble albums (unfortunately out of print but I still have my copies). He did make one dud and that was on the AC/DC album Ballbreaker. Nobody's perfect I guess...[/quote]

Ballbreaker had its moments, but there wasn't anything on there that would have to be included in an AC/DC career retrospective.
 
[quote name='Canadian_Man']Exodus' Shovel Headed Kill Machine wasn't bad and neither was Death Angel's Killing Season as long as you're more open to punk.

.[/quote]

Shovel was ok. When it was thrashy, it was decent. Most of the songs just dragged on and on, then they did the whole groove thing too. Their last album was not very good. I bought it, listened to it once, and haven't returned to it. Big disappointment. I'm not expecting a Pleasures of the Flesh type of album from them at this point, but I dunno.

As for Death Angel I haven't heard Killing Season. I was referring to Act3 and Frolic Through the Park. I have no idea what they were trying do on those albums but they are a mess. Riffs all over the place. Just a bunch of weird songs.


[quote name='mykevermin']I hear the song "Rock Out" the other day and it sounded like Lemmy was singing for The Exploited.

Much faster drumming than I was used to from them.

.[/quote]

Nice. Faster drumming is always good. Lemmy's doin' a little Wattie huh? That's kinda cool. I gotta check out that song. I was gonna pick the album up anyway, but now I'm more excited for it. The last album was kind of boring IMO.

EDIT: Rock Out was a pretty good song. That should be their single for the album. I loved the drumming and the dirty bass. Did I hear Lemmy say "Rock out with your **** out, impress your lady friends?" :rofl:

ACDC's Ballbreaker had 1 or 2 decent songs but it was just a blah album. Nothing really special.

That new Metallica song was boring. That riff sucks.
 
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Err, no - I meant to say that Lemmy sounds like Lemmy, his Rickenbacker still sounds like his Rickenbacker, but the drumming had that generic Exploited-style pace to it. Like unsophisticated D-beat drumming (which may or may not be redundant).
 
[quote name='Blackout']Once all those old thrash bands hit a certain age they just lost it. Almost all of them. Megadeth, Exodus, Anthrax, Slayer, Sepultura, Death Angel. So many bands. It's sad really.[/QUOTE]

Further demonstrating that Testament was the best Bay Area thrash band of the bunch ;)

I do not underestimate Rubin's production ability...I also do not underestimate Metallica's ability to ruin things. It's the irresistable force vs. the immovable object! That new "Cyanide" song is pretty weak though...it does not fill me with hope.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Further demonstrating that Testament was the best Bay Area thrash band of the bunch ;)

[/quote]

I guess. Vio-Lence is one of my favorites, but they came in too late, and other bands only had 1 or two albums so they don't count. As far as not sucking complete balls later on in their musical career, Testament is up there.

[quote name='mykevermin']Err, no - I meant to say that Lemmy sounds like Lemmy, his Rickenbacker still sounds like his Rickenbacker, but the drumming had that generic Exploited-style pace to it. Like unsophisticated D-beat drumming (which may or may not be redundant).[/quote]

Oh ok. Mikkey Dee is a great drummer so I don't think it'll turn out bad.
 
Thanks for the link. It's such poor streaming quality it's hard to really give it a thought/review.

But early on it reminds me of the Black Album-era Metallica. That record made them a ton of money, and was a respectable hybrid between the older Metallica and songs written for a mainstream audience.

Still, kind of a letdown overall. Of the 2-3 songs I've heard, the only thing that I'm digging is Kirk Hammett's guitar-wanking. It's not the greatest ever in the history of the universe, but it is the only thing that, IMO, successfully conjures up images and thoughts of "old" Metallica. So go Kirk go!

I'm still interested in hearing the entire record as a whole, but this didn't excite me for the album.
 
It's Black album vol. 2, and are the rumors true about Unforgiven III being a real song? Get Toxic Holocaust's new album instead of the new Metallica album, it's being produced by Jack Endino, haha.
 
I'm actually pretty excited about the new Motorhead. A lot of their stuff has been good and consistent, if not forgettable, going all the way back to 1916 (their last mind blowing album, IMO).
 
The single was ok, it only picked up when Lars picked up the drumming. Not too great, but I'll give them credit. Compared to St. Anger, Death Magnetic is going to be a classic album. I can't wait until all the radio DJs are like "Metallica baby!! YEAAAAH! Man wasn't that song heavy??!"

Canadian Man thanks for posting that Loomis song. Hot damn. I gotta buy that album.
 
[quote name='Canadian_Man']Exodus' Shovel Headed Kill Machine wasn't bad and neither was Death Angel's Killing Season as long as you're more open to punk.[/quote]

No, they were both pretty awful.

[quote name='KaneRobot']Further demonstrating that Testament was the best Bay Area thrash band of the bunch ;)[/quote]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Yeah, if every other one of them died in a house fire.

[quote name='mykevermin']respectable hybrid between the older Metallica and songs written for a mainstream audience.[/quote]

If by "respectable hybrid" you mean "completely tosses away everything they did before", then absolutely.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']^ They've been in the process of that for well over a decade and a half.[/quote]

Well, the new song has bits that remind me of King Diamond/Mercyful Fate, so I guess they wanna reverse that trend.
 
I like the new Metalica song but its a little uneven. Its a bit of a rehash of One to be honest.

I'm hoping the rest of the album is not like this song though..
 
Hey HEY..."Zeppelin" played one gig and a practice gig, then Plant went back to touring with Allison Krause.

As for that Metallica....I have one word: BLEECH.

Black Album Part Deux here we come...
 
For better or worse (mostly worse) if it's like the Black album then it'll be better then Load, Reload, Some Kind of Monster, Garage Inc. and St. Anger (this last one was a given) by default. So good job Metallica, this one may not suck as bad as those five listed.
 
If only they would tour the U.S.
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IN BATTLE THERE IS NO LAW!
 
New Hank III vid...not exactly metal but a cousin. Close enough:

http://www.recordstoreday.com/Page/504

New album is out on 10/21.


[quote name='evanft']
Yeah, if every other one of them died in a house fire. [/QUOTE]

Yeah, sure. I see dismissal but I don't see you offering up alternatives.

[quote name='evanft']Well, the new song has bits that remind me of King Diamond/Mercyful Fate[/QUOTE]
There's one part that sounds directly lifted from their Mercyful Fate medley.

I've been hearing that song on XM for a few days...it's obviously an attempt to rehash Sanitarium and Fade to Black, but is as good as neither. I hear very little similarity to the black album, not sure where that is coming from. The drums sound like shit, I was hoping Rubin would fix that since they also sounded awful on the last album but I guess that's what Lars is after. The riffs sound kind of random and thrown together. It's like these guys forgot how to craft a fucking song.
 
Time to make everyone who doesn't live in Maryland jealous..

Bands confirmed so far for Maryland Deathfest VII

PESTILENCE - Netherlands
MAYHEM - Norway (Meh)
ATHEIST - Florida
ASPHYX - Netherlands
IMMOLATION - New York
BRUTAL TRUTH - New York
ABSCESS - California
HAIL OF BULLETS - Netherlands
GENERAL SURGERY - Sweden
TODAY IS THE DAY - Tennessee
PHOBIA - California
SAYYADINA - Sweden
FLESH PARADE - Louisiana
JIG-AI - Czech Republic
ANTIGAMA - Poland
CROWPATH - Sweden
GNOSTIC - Georgia
MAN MUST DIE - Scotland
ENTRAILS MASSACRE - Germany
TRIAC - Maryland
 
LARS! TURN YOUR GODDAMNED MICS DOWN!

A potentially good song ruined by the drumming. Like St. Anger (the song, not the record). Sounds like a seizure on a snare drum happening two inches in front of your face. And not in a good way.

EDIT: By the by, when I saw that "Unforgiven III" was indeed a real song, that alone sealed my fate with regards to buying the new Metallica album. My money's going to Hank III's new record.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']Any of you guys heard Grand Magus? Maybe I'm late to the party, but what I've heard has been good stuff.[/quote]

Solid band.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']LARS! TURN YOUR GODDAMNED MICS DOWN!

A potentially good song ruined by the drumming. Like St. Anger (the song, not the record). Sounds like a seizure on a snare drum happening two inches in front of your face. And not in a good way.

EDIT: By the by, when I saw that "Unforgiven III" was indeed a real song, that alone sealed my fate with regards to buying the new Metallica album. My money's going to Hank III's new record.[/quote]

It's Lars. Even back in the day he was just an average drummer. His skills haven't improved over the years.
 
[quote name='Blackout']It's Lars. Even back in the day he was just an average drummer. His skills haven't improved over the years.[/QUOTE]

This is true.
 
[quote name='MRJESUS925']I like both the new Metallica singles. Hate all you want.[/quote]

I kinda like them too. I wasn't expecting Master of the Puppets though...
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Yeah, sure. I see dismissal but I don't see you offering up alternatives.[/quote]

Well, there's the obvious, like Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer, and then there's Possessed, Exodus (Bonded by Blood ALONE destroys anything any of these bands did), Heathen, Vio-Lence, and maybe even Forbidden. If you wanted, you could throw in the NY and German bands, like Overkill, Kreator, and Sodom, or maybe Venom, too.

[quote name='shieryda']New All That Remains next month.[/quote]

:lol:

Thanks for the laugh.
 
[quote name='Xevious']I kinda like them too. I wasn't expecting Master of the Puppets though...[/quote]

Nor I. I just wanted something that was better than their last couple offerings. Especially St. Anger. And so far, these two singles are way better than I was expecting. It's unreasonable to expect anyone to recapture that essence, especially Metallica after the Black album.
 
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