Lets be real...can you still support SONY?

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[quote name='solid snake']... i am not a child like you so unless you have something inteelagent to say i will not respond to your post.[/quote]
You can't get more ironic than that folks! All joking aside, that made me laugh out loud. You mind if I put that in my sig?:applause:
 
[quote name='CappyCobra']You can't get more ironic than that folks! All joking aside, that made me laugh out loud. You mind if I put that in my sig?:applause:[/quote]
I didnt even notice that but if you wanna use it go ahead,i am loling at my self for that one.
 
[quote name='solid snake']its so odd that you think you know me better than i know myself and no thats not what it is at all your just trying to get something started and i am not a child like you so unless you have something inteelagent to say i will not respond to your post.[/QUOTE]

And yet you did.. spelling like a child and all. Congrats.
 
[quote name='solid snake'] Plus it has been around longer than Microsoft on the console gaming scene so really sony knows more about what its gamers like and dont like.
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By your logic Nintendo knows more about what gamers like and don't like than Sony does.

I don't think it has much to do about how long a company has been around. Microsoft has been doing a lot of things right.
 
[quote name='jer7583']I love the kids who have this irrational love for all things japanese.. Like sony is superior somehow because they're sony. They're a greedy fucking corporation, just like everything else. Get a life.

And I don't think I'm missing out on anything by not buying a $600 PS3, because I'll buy it when it is under $200, preferably used, and snatch up all the good games that were made for it on the cheap as well. Until then, the previous gen, Wii, and 360 are far more than enough gaming.

I still don't understand how anyone could enjoy the PSP. Loading times on a handheld.. I'm at a loss to describe how dissapointing and retarded that is.[/QUOTE]


Hahah, that reminds me of the pokemon South Park Episode....Ohh American are so superior...have such ginormous penis...not like us asians with such small penis...babahbaha
 
[quote name='Greetard']Gamers know what gamers want much better than Sony, and most of us want a cheaper console.[/quote]

Who doesn't want a more affordable console? :roll: Those of us who would like a PS3 at launch need to, or have already accepted the reality that the price of being an early adopter is high. How else are the three companies involved with the R&D of the Cell (with over a billion dollars invested) and the members in the Blu-ray consortium (with the R&D of the Blu-ray format) going to recuperate their investments? It would have been easy for Sony to toss in a 12x DVD-ROM drive (like MS did with the 360), but they had loftier goals for the PS3. Whether or not they were overly ambitious in their foresight with the PS3 remains to be seen.

The 360 is a viable, less costlier alternative for those who believe that the PS3 is out of their reach. I will buy one myself when the games I want to play become available (sometime in 2007). As an avid movie viewer and longtime gamer, the PS3 offers me the best of both worlds, which is why I plan on picking one up at launch. Would I have preferred a full-fledged console that was $100-150 less than the $600 MSRP? Absolutely! Since perception and reality aren't one and the same, I have resigned myself to the acceptance of the $600 price point. It's a tough pill to swallow, even for someone who works full-time, but what can you do; c'est la vie.
 
but what can you do; c'est la vie.

How about uhh.. not buy a PS3 at launch? Why is it anyone who makes the arguement that the price is there for a reason acts like they're powerless to wait for a price drop, or *gasp* try the competition? Patience is a virtue..
 
[quote name='jer7583']How about uhh.. not buy a PS3 at launch? Why is it anyone who makes the arguement that the price is there for a reason acts like they're powerless to wait for a price drop, or *gasp* try the competition? Patience is a virtue..[/QUOTE]


I think its even funnier privatepixel says the price is fine but wont buy one till "sometime" in 2007 when there are games for it...lol
 
[quote name='Daddy']I think its even funnier privatepixel says the price is fine but wont buy one till "sometime" in 2007 when there are games for it...lol[/quote]

Comprehension > you. :roll:

I have every intention of buying a PS3 at launch; it's the 360 that I don't plan on buying till next year. I'm not going to shell out $400 for a proverbial paperweight; if the games I want to play aren't scheduled for release until next year, why spend the money now?
 
[quote name='PrivatePixel']Comprehension > you. :roll:

I have every intention of buying a PS3 at launch; it's the 360 that I don't plan on buying till next year. I'm not going to shell out $400 for a proverbial paperweight; if the games I want to play aren't scheduled for release until next year, why spend the money now?[/QUOTE]


Either way if you think 360 has no games by now and you say none till 2007.... then PS3 wont have games till 2008 by your calculations...bahbahbab

Still wrong > You :roll:


The only game that totally blows on 360 is....RIDGE RACER...go figure
 
Everyone that uses the excuse, "I will not purchase a 600 console!" Is full of bull-shaq'fu crap... Only reason to use that excuse is if you are just doing a quick "bash" of the PS3.

1. Purchase the $499 dollar one. And if you want the $600 one because of the HDMI ports, then you must have a 60'' or a 1080p TV, and if thats true. You got money flying out of your anus...
2. You must definetally spent $500 dollars on the 360 at launch. If not, congratulations you got a useless console! (Not to say it isnt usless with games...)
3. If you did spend over $500 dollars at launch you probably bought extra controllers or games. (And those extra 3 controllers you purchased... yea PDZ sucks, and Oblivion doesnt have split screen, and GRAW's 4 player split screen is insufficient.) And if you did, wouldnt you rather subsitute those mediocore crap games for the ability to play Blu-Ray disks and an Internal Hardrive and free online? I sure would...

I for one am buying a PS3 on Launch.
 
For $600 with an XBox 360 you can get:
- Premium System
- Extra Controller
- 2 games
- Warranty

For $600 with a PS3 you can get:
- Premium System

Let's be honest here, with how 'reliable' Sony's systems have been at launch before, you're going to want a warranty (and if not, you're a fool). Tack on $50. Another controller? Another $50. How about games? You're definitely going to need some of those. At $50-60 a piece for games, you're looking at EASILY $700, and more realistically $800 to make the jump to the next-gen with Sony. All my quoted prices are pre-tax, of course. Better hope your state loves you, or you could be looking at upwards of $80 in tax, too.

It's good that you're willing to drop close to a grand for a system at launch. A lot of people aren't. I don't see that as a "bullshit" excuse at all.
 
[quote name='Genocidal']For $600 with an XBox 360 you can get:
- Premium System
- Extra Controller
- 2 games
- Warranty

For $600 with a PS3 you can get:
- Premium System

Let's be honest here, with how 'reliable' Sony's systems have been at launch before, you're going to want a warranty (and if not, you're a fool). Tack on $50. Another controller? Another $50. How about games? You're definitely going to need some of those. At $50-60 a piece for games, you're looking at EASILY $700, and more realistically $800 to make the jump to the next-gen with Sony. All my quoted prices are pre-tax, of course. Better hope your state loves you, or you could be looking at upwards of $80 in tax, too.

It's good that you're willing to drop close to a grand for a system at launch. A lot of people aren't. I don't see that as a "bullshit" excuse at all.[/quote]
Thanks for skipping over my post and only seeing the word, "Bullshit".
 
I read your whole post, and it came off as a bash of the 360, so I responded to the few parts that didn't strike me as flamebait.
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']Everyone that uses the excuse, "I will not purchase a 600 console!" Is full of bull-shaq'fu crap... Only reason to use that excuse is if you are just doing a quick "bash" of the PS3. ...[/quote]

Bullcrap. $600 is $600. Even $300 is too much. Some of us here have fucking bills to pay, mouths to feed. $199.99 is the magic price. By that time games will be aplenty and reasonably priced. WTF are you even on this site called CHEAPASSGAMER.COM? Correct me if I'm wrong, but most CAG's would be hardpressed to drop a $500-$600 nut for just a system
 
[quote name='CappyCobra']Bullcrap. $600 is $600. Even $300 is too much. Some of us here have fucking bills to pay, mouths to feed. $199.99 is the magic price. By that time games will be aplenty and reasonably priced. WTF are you even on this site called CHEAPASSGAMER.COM? Correct me if I'm wrong, but most CAG's would be hardpressed to drop a $500-$600 nut for just a system[/quote]
Then why is there a PS3 section?

If noone is willing to drop the dough... then why even have this section?

Just to complain?
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']Everyone that uses the excuse, "I will not purchase a 600 console!" Is full of bull-shaq'fu crap... Only reason to use that excuse is if you are just doing a quick "bash" of the PS3.

1. Purchase the $499 dollar one. And if you want the $600 one because of the HDMI ports, then you must have a 60'' or a 1080p TV, and if thats true. You got money flying out of your anus... [/QUOTE]

That's still a lot more to pay for the PS3 over the 360 and especially the Wii. I don't know about you, but, as a game system I don't see the PS3 doing THAT much more than the 360. And I certainly can't see justifying the AT LEAST $100 more for something that doesn't do all that much more than a cheaper, comparable product.

2. You must definetally spent $500 dollars on the 360 at launch. If not, congratulations you got a useless console! (Not to say it isnt usless with games...)

And to do the same with the PS3, assuming you settle for the cheaper $500 console, you'll still be paying $600 minimum for the PS3 and ONE game! With that amount you could just as easily get a premium 360, with an extra controller and 2-3 games. Or a Wii with an extra controller and 4-5 games.

3. If you did spend over $500 dollars at launch you probably bought extra controllers or games. (And those extra 3 controllers you purchased... yea PDZ sucks, and Oblivion doesnt have split screen, and GRAW's 4 player split screen is insufficient.) And if you did, wouldnt you rather subsitute those mediocore crap games for the ability to play Blu-Ray disks and an Internal Hardrive and free online? I sure would...

I for one am buying a PS3 on Launch.

Seems to me there are quite a few people out there who are very happy with those "crap games" on the 360.

And I really don't see Blu-Ray ias a great selling point. Blu-ray is not going to replace DVDs for anything except games on the PS3 and is only nice to have for movies if you have an HDTV, which most people still don't have and if they did they would have to get the $600 PS3 to properly use it.
 
[quote name='Buster Rod G']That's still a lot more to pay for the PS3 over the 360 and especially the Wii. I don't know about you, but, as a game system I don't see the PS3 doing THAT much more than the 360. And I certainly can't see justifying the AT LEAST $100 more for something that doesn't do all that much more than a cheaper, comparable product.
[/quote] Well then thats a matter of opinion. I find the PS3 a much more attractive deal then the 360. I purchased a 360, and I dont enjoy any of the games on it. And the Xbox, all that brought me was, Ninja Gaiden and Dead or Alive.

Cause I know, when I buy my PS3 the game quality will show until the very end. Not like Gamecube or Xbox that tired out of producing games. And PS2 is still pumping out amazing titles... Final Fantasy XII, God of War 2, Okami, Guitar Hero 2 anyone?

Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy, Shadow of Colousses, God of War, Silent Hill, Metal Gear Solid, Onimusha, Devil May Cry, Tenchu, Okami, Guitar Hero, Tekken, Jak, Ratchet, SSX, SOCOM, Gran Turismo, Zone of the Enders, Twisted Metal...

Are what keep me coming to Playstation products...

And to do the same with the PS3, assuming you settle for the cheaper $500 console, you'll still be paying $600 minimum for the PS3 and ONE game! With that amount you could just as easily get a premium 360, with an extra controller and 2-3 games. Or a Wii with an extra controller and 4-5 games.
Thats preference. I believe the PS3 is much more worth the price then the 360 is...

With the Wii, its always a Sub console for me. No matter what I am going to purchase it. And it isnt a console that I would own just by itself... (I dont have to explain that here...)

Seems to me there are quite a few people out there who are very happy with those "crap games" on the 360.
Well, you can add me to the list that wasnt satisified. I mean the most popular games on it could be purchased on your PC...

And I really don't see Blu-Ray ias a great selling point. Blu-ray is not going to replace DVDs for anything except games on the PS3 and is only nice to have for movies if you have an HDTV, which most people still don't have and if they did they would have to get the $600 PS3 to properly use it.

Blu-Ray is an amazing selling point. I can see developers switching to the PS3 soley for the amount of space available on the games disc. And it is a STANDARD, Microsoft doesnt understand that.
No game company will make HDVD games... becuase a majority of the audience wont have that addon...
Developers are going to need that amazing amount of space as the years go by.
And ALSO add on the Internal hardrive, which is standard for BOTH versions! That means developers will be taken advantage of that as well... Thats double the pleasure, which causes an eruption of supremacy over the 360.

Need I add on the free online play? You can subtract that from its cost as well... I dont like subscriptions...

Again, if someone is dishing out that serious dough on a TV that can support that, they wouldnt mind dishing out a little more for a game console.
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']Then why is there a PS3 section?

If noone is willing to drop the dough... then why even have this section?

Just to complain?[/quote] To quote myself:
[quote name='CappyCobra']...Correct me if I'm wrong, but MOST CAG's would be hardpressed to drop a $500-$600 nut for just a system[/quote] Even if noone were to buy the system here, it would be unfair not to have a forum addressed for each current / Next-Gen console. Don't get me wrong, most here will get a PS3 after the inevitable price drops (myself included) so the need for the dedicate forum is warranted. I never said the PS3 won't sell. Just don't expect it to fly off the fucking shelf for $500. Just ask Saturn, 3DO, & Neo-Geo how well they sold.
 
Nine pages and I still haven't commented on this.

I do plan on getting a PS3, even if it's just to play Kingdom Hearts 3. However, when I plan on getting a PS3 is very much up in the air. There's no way I'm going to pay $600 for a PS3 (and the hardcore gamer in me wont let me get anything less then the good version). For me, $400 is my upper limit for consoles, which means I may be waiting a few years for a PS3.

I don't mind waiting. It seems like the vast majority of third party games will be coming out for both the 360 and PS3 because it would be stupid for any developer to limit themselves to only one console when the difference, graphics wise, wont be that huge. Sure the PS3 may be more powerful on paper, but the difference will likely be as small as the difference between Gamecube and Xbox graphics. The best looking games for the 360 and PS3 will look almost identical, which is fine by me.

The only major disadvantage I see the 360 having in the future is the DVD Rom drive, but I can live with swapping disks like I did with the PS1. This may be a bit of a problem with a sandbox game like Oblivion or GTA, but I get the feeling that developers will get very good at compression, and with Oblivion only taking up half of a DVD, I don't think we have to worry about disk space for a few years.
Plus the fact that Sony is requiring Blu Ray disks for all games will no doubt drive up the price of all games to a minimum of $60, with $70+ for the high profile games. I'm happy to wait a few years until the price of Blu Ray disks go down.
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']Need I add on the free online play? You can subtract that from its cost as well... I dont like subscriptions...[/QUOTE]

Oh I didnt know you knew SONY's online structure and services? I imagine that is a SHAM like all the other SONY lies...I bet they have the same as SILVEr like on LIVE....dont expect ANY free service to be good....you can use anything as an example there. Good that you are standing up for SONY but you are a minority here....

PS- The titles you mentioned as well are old and outdated....I personally dont wanna go past version 3 of almost any game...mario is still alive somehow though...lol. I look for NEW, INNOVATIVE, titles....I see MS has the money to suck up 1st and 3rd party titles GALORE....GTA was just the beginning and with SOLID SNAKE on Mario Party I bet you'll see some SNAKE action on 360 soon enough....money talks brotha. With games like F.E.A.R coming and id bet some shiny pennies on W.O.W following soon enough....the 360 is hurtin the competition....and LIVE anywhere and Vista integration is off the scale...here you can sign up for the 360 vista/media center testing:

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/news/2006/0530-beabetatester.htm
 
[quote name='Daddy']Oh I didnt know you knew SONY's online structure and services? I imagine that is a SHAM like all the other SONY lies...I bet they have the same as SILVEr like on LIVE....dont expect ANY free service to be good....you can use anything as an example there. Good that you are standing up for SONY but you are a minority here....

PS- The titles you mentioned as well are old and outdated....I personally dont wanna go past version 3 of almost any game...mario is still alive somehow though...lol. I look for NEW, INNOVATIVE, titles....I see MS has the money to suck up 1st and 3rd party titles GALORE....GTA was just the beginning and with SOLID SNAKE on Mario Party I bet you'll see some SNAKE action on 360 soon enough....money talks brotha. With games like F.E.A.R coming and id bet some shiny pennies on W.O.W following soon enough....the 360 is hurtin the competition....and LIVE anywhere and Vista integration is off the scale...here you can sign up for the 360 vista/media center testing:

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/news/2006/0530-beabetatester.htm[/QUOTE]
FYI Sony is trying to make W.O.W. exclusive to the PS3, so good luck with that on your 360.

And I dont think you should hold your breath on MGS4 on the 360. Kojima himself said it takes too much time to port a game (aka the reason he didnt put MGS3 on the Xbox).

Just because Snake himself is on the GC doesnt mean they are going to go ahead and port the whole game to a DIFFERENT system.
 
[quote name='Daddy']Either way if you think 360 has no games by now and you say none till 2007.... then PS3 wont have games till 2008 by your calculations...bahbahbab

Still wrong > You :roll:[/quote]

How am I wrong? You're trying to use an opinion as a fact (i.e. a logical fallacy), as the basis of your counterpoint. I'm well aware of what's in the pipeline for the 360 for the remainder of 2006 and nothing qualifies as a system seller for me. Not you, ME!

Also, I never said that there weren't any good games on the 360 (you were trying to put words into my mouth :shame: ); IMO, the 360 doesn't have that one application that would make me commit to a purchase at this point in time (and yes, I have taken Gears Of War and Huxley into consideration).
 
[quote name='whoknows']FYI Sony is trying to make W.O.W. exclusive to the PS3, so good luck with that on your 360.

And I dont think you should hold your breath on MGS4 on the 360. Kojima himself said it takes too much time to port a game (aka the reason he didnt put MGS3 on the Xbox).

Just because Snake himself is on the GC doesnt mean they are going to go ahead and port the whole game to a DIFFERENT system.[/QUOTE]


SONY is TRYING....but I dont think they have what it takes to do it as far as WOW goes.....I didnt say MGS4 would be coming but i see Kojima makin 360 games real soon if things at MS keep goin the way they are.
 
[quote name='PrivatePixel']How am I wrong? You're trying to use an opinion as a fact (i.e. a logical fallacy), as the basis of your counterpoint. I'm well aware of what's in the pipeline for the 360 for the remainder of 2006 and nothing qualifies as a system seller for me. Not you, ME!

Also, I never said that there weren't any good games on the 360 (you were trying to put words into my mouth :shame: ); IMO, the 360 doesn't have that one application that would make me commit to a purchase at this point in time (and yes, I have taken Gears Of War and Huxley into consideration).[/QUOTE]

Hmmm so what games exactly are selling you on PS3? There are outstanding FPS (GRAW) Role Playing (oblivion) Action (Gears of War) Puzzle (Lumines 2 on LIVE) Horror (Alan Wake ) so what are you looking for exactly that would make you wait so long?
 
Metal...GEAR!!

I'm waiting for the console exclusives (GRAW, COD2...etc are great on PC)
& quality games and content that I am familiar with on the PS2
 
[quote name='Daddy']Hmmm so what games exactly are selling you on PS3? There are outstanding FPS (GRAW) Role Playing (oblivion) Action (Gears of War) Puzzle (Lumines 2 on LIVE) Horror (Alan Wake ) so what are you looking for exactly that would make you wait so long?[/quote]
Good job listing games that are Multiplatform...

Thats why I dont like 360 rarely any exclusives.

I have a PC for that....
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']Good job listing games that are Multiplatform...

Thats why I dont like 360 rarely any exclusives.

I have a PC for that....[/QUOTE]


Well the way things are going the PC/console gap is becoming one space...like Alan Wake....Multiplatform for me is anything thats on PS3 or Wii...but considering neither of those systems are out I see 360 as the obvious choice for ME....PC gaming is too hard to do the maintenance for...upgrade this,DL that (doom 3 great example)...no thanks...im so tired of a PC game coming out and having to upgrade my system for it...i think thats the only main reason id rather go with a console...To me Pc gaming is way different then a console in many respects....I see MS closing this gap however...playing a FPS against a PC player is just not fair however. Again when comparing 360 to Wii or PS3 i just cant justify the games, prices or online structures....Wii may have something but it wont be "looking" next gen, wether its fun or not is a different story however. As far as PS3, between the pirces,lies and no rumble and you name it im just not going to hop on that ship anytime soon

PS- Darkness Bear think about how much money the PC you use costs with maintence,original price and upgrades. Can you even trade PC games in either anymore?
 
[quote name='Daddy']No response huh[/QUOTE]
You know...there are more important things going on in the world than trying to get people to think "certain system is teh roxx0rz" on a message board. Argue all you want, but it doesnt look like you are going to change his opinion about it and it doesnt look like he is going to change your opinion about it.
 
[quote name='Daddy']

PS- Darkness Bear think about how much money the PC you use costs with maintence,original price and upgrades. Can you even trade PC games in either anymore?[/quote]


i know this question was not directed towards me,but i tried trading some in the other day and i was told i have to have the game box manual and cd case to trade it in and the box has to be in good condition and they only pay $5 per pc game.
and your right,pc's are really expensive.
 
[quote name='solid snake']i know this question was not directed towards me,but i tried trading some in the other day and i was told i have to have the game box manual and cd case to trade it in and the box has to be in good condition and they only pay $5 per pc game.
and your right,pc's are really expensive.[/QUOTE]

I just feel soooo ripped off when it comes to PC gaming...trading in i thought was dead at $5 bucks that actually is dead and those upgrades can be a punch in the face (you get home all pumped to play a game only to realize you cant w/o spending some un godly amount of cash to up your system specs...total buzz kill) I just wanted to make it clear that multi-platform really doesnt include PC in this whole PS3/Wii/360 formula is justa different creature all together
 
[quote name='Daddy']I just feel soooo ripped off when it comes to PC gaming...trading in i thought was dead at $5 bucks that actually is dead and those upgrades can be a punch in the face (you get home all pumped to play a game only to realize you cant w/o spending some un godly amount of cash to up your system specs...total buzz kill) I just wanted to make it clear that multi-platform really doesnt include PC in this whole PS3/Wii/360 formula is justa different creature all together[/quote]

i wish all the systems would merge into one and becaome a super system.
 
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[quote name='solid snake']i wish all the systems would merge into one and becaome a super system.[/QUOTE]

Who knows the way business is sooo competitive now a days maybe we will see SUPER ULTRA SYSTEM 467846946 out in 2020

It will be every system ever made with old ports and all
 
Sony execs talk PS3, 360, and PC
Kutaragi says next-gen console is like a PC, Stringer jokes he has an "obsession" with Microsoft's next-gen console.
By Tor Thorsen, GameSpot

Posted Jun 7, 2006 6:56 pm PT

Last week, Sony Worldwide Studios president Phil Harrison caused a semi-furor by insinuating the PlayStation 3 could replace the PC in the home. While his comments were mainly directed at the console's entertainment and multimedia capabilities, Sony has long said that the PS3 will have some PC-like functions.

That line was repeated again today by Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutaragi. Speaking with Japanese site PC Impress Watch, the executive defended the PS3's high $499/$599 price points by saying it was not just another console. "Unlike previous PlayStations, it is clearly a computer," he said according to a GameSpot translation.

Kutaragi went on to talk about the need to be able to expand the PS3's technical functions, just like one would with a PC. "Because the PS3 is a computer, we need to do more than just lower the costs, but the console must be able to evolve," he said. He said one of the first tasks at hand would be to introduce a hard-disk drive with higher capacity that the currently scheduled 20GB and 60GB models.

Kutaragi even raised the prospect that, further down the road, Sony might release a PS3 peripheral that could burn Blu-ray discs, the company's high-capacity successor to DVD. "We might want to add a BD drive, a writable drive," he said before quickly reversing himself. "Well, maybe not BD."

Kutaragi also said that, other than the PS3's current read-only Blu-ray drive, the main reason for the console's high cost was the built-in HDD. "For a game console, to add a hard drive puts pressure on cost," he said. "Unlike a semiconductor chip, HDD cannot help lower the cost of the product. ... As a game console, the price has to, over time, be reduced to the 100 dollar range, but that is hard to do with an HDD. ... That [is why] PS3 pricing is not conforming to conventional pricing for a game console."

Meanwhile, Kutaragi's boss, Sony CEO Sir Howard Stringer, had a few choice words to say about one of the PS3's rivals, the Xbox 360. Actually, it was more like one choice word. During an on-stage Q&A at last week's D: All Things Digital conference, which is organized by the Wall Street Journal, he was asked about the mixed critical reception of Sony Pictures' blockbuster film The Da Vinci Code. He misspoke when responding, saying "Xbox 3" instead of "X-Men 3," prompting laughter from the audience. The Welshman then joked, "There's an obsession!"

Stringer recovered quickly, talking up the PS3 in no uncertain terms. "It's got more bells and whistles than a 747," he boasted. "That Cell processor is extraordinarily powerful and you have nine hours of high definition on the Blu-ray disks alone. ... The reason it's expensive [is that] instead of concentrating on just the games player, which would have been done in the past, PlayStation 3 is designed to go somewhere else, where it's the center of the living room."

Center of the Living Room....WTF now they even copy peoples catch lines? Didnt Peter Moore/J Allard already use this line for 360...wow this is getting ridiculous
 
[quote name='Daddy']Hmmm so what games exactly are selling you on PS3? There are outstanding FPS (GRAW) Role Playing (oblivion) Action (Gears of War) Puzzle (Lumines 2 on LIVE) Horror (Alan Wake ) so what are you looking for exactly that would make you wait so long?[/quote]

Seeing as the list of launch titles is anything but finalized at this time, I can't provide an answer right now. Thing is, even if the titles I want are pushed back for a 2007 release, I'm not going to be left wanting for two reasons: 1) as a home theatre guy and DVD collector, I'll be starting a Blu-ray movie library, and 2) with over 200 PS2 titles in my collection, more than 60% are still untouched; in the interim, I can do some catching up. I also have more than 70 Xbox titles that have yet to be played.

Although I have a few FPS titles on the current gen consoles, I still prefer to play FPS on the PC. I plan on building a Vista-ready PC sometime during the fall, so that I'll be ready for Unreal Tournament 2007. If UT2007 turns out to be a WinXP title, I'll just load XP into my new PC and wait for Vista's eventual release. RPGs such as Oblivion aren't system sellers for me (I do happen to own Morrowind, but only because I bought it for $5 new). Gears Of War looks like a prettier kill.switch to me; it looks great, but again, not a system seller for me.

What am I looking forward to on the PS3?
  • Assassin's Creed
  • Devil May Cry 4
  • Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
  • Vision Gran Turismo
Most of the other titles on my wishlist are cross-platform (e.g. Brothers In Arms: Hell's Highway, Call Of Duty 3, Medal Of Honor: Airborne, Grand Theft Auto IV, etc.). With a decent PC, PS3, Wii and original Xbox, I have my gaming bases covered and can afford to postpone a 360 purchase.
 
[quote name='PrivatePixel']

What am I looking forward to on the PS3?

Assassin's Creed

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This one is cross platform as well...no UBISOFT game is not cross platform, well maybe GR: Jungle strike or storm or whatever it was but that was damn close to one. I can see about FPS on PC again thats what I said not fair to play a console FPS vs a PC player control is insane on PC in comparing. Dont know what will happen in the format war and again of you are a Home Theatre person like me I'm pretty surprised you want a combo electronic for your DVD player....just remember when it breaks your outta luck for games and movies plus your usage now doubles on that electronic b/c its for gaming and movies now. i would ather buy aanother projector than pay $700+ for just a system and a game....hell I could walk away with a nice optoma projector for a few hundred more (probably how much it would cost you once you walked away with a Ps3 and a few games and add-ons

PS-On a HUGE side note look for people like Kojima and others (think GTA4) to start selling cross platform with the exception of in house studios (MS was smart enough to eat up RARE,Peter Molyneux/LionHead Studios, and Bungie) for MANY MANY games to not be exclusive anymore...in fact the HD era is making it so costs for creating every part of games so expensive that many small studios will get bought,merged and consolidated in the coming months/years. With the gaming industry passing the movie industry youll see a change in everything...again money talks
 
I'm pretty much locked into buying a PS3 at this point. I technically have 100+ games that are compatible with the system (more if it is region free for games). I just don't see myself buying a 360 as I'm not going to re-buy a PS2 once my old one finally breaks. Still... Sony has a way of having the absolute shittiest hardware at launch. Unless Sony gives you a few free PS1 downloads at launch, I'll wait and enjoy playing with my Wii.
 
[quote name='furyk']I'm pretty much locked into buying a PS3 at this point. I technically have 100+ games that are compatible with the system (more if it is region free for games). I just don't see myself buying a 360 as I'm not going to re-buy a PS2 once my old one finally breaks. Still... Sony has a way of having the absolute shittiest hardware at launch. Unless Sony gives you a few free PS1 downloads at launch, I'll wait and enjoy playing with my Wii.[/QUOTE]


Hmm being a hardcore gamer for me means I have to be playing whats new and hot....I cant see trash talking on a game thats been out forever b/c thats just noobish unless im playing against a great opponent(then again the games I refer to are online ones b/c trying to set up a LAN thing just aint my style. I guess thats why the BC stuff really doesnt apply to me too much. Why play a game I already beat unless I can play it against someone else besides the computer AI? hey but sometimes an old throw back my peak my interest but then again I can run an emulator for those on a handheld *cough PSP cough*.... guess too each his own, but I cant justify BC as a reason to buy a system...an expensive system at that
 
[quote name='Daddy']Hmm being a hardcore gamer for me means I have to be playing whats new and hot....I cant see trash talking on a game thats been out forever b/c thats just noobish unless im playing against a great opponent(then again the games I refer to are online ones b/c trying to set up a LAN thing just aint my style. I guess thats why the BC stuff really doesnt apply to me too much. Why play a game I already beat unless I can play it against someone else besides the computer AI? hey but sometimes an old throw back my peak my interest but then again I can run an emulator for those on a handheld *cough PSP cough*.... guess too each his own, but I cant justify BC as a reason to buy a system...an expensive system at that[/QUOTE]
BC is an excellent reason for buying a system. For you being a "hardcore gamer" needing to play whats new and hot, doesnt mean BC is useless. There will still be many great PS2 games coming out after the PS3 launches. I dont want to have to keep or rebuy a PS2 so I can play God Of War 2, when instead I can play it on my current next-gen system. The same goes for any other PS2 games that will be released. And BC doesnt mean that you are playing games you already played. If you have played every PS2/Xbox/GC game and have no need for BC then good for you, a lot of us haven't.

[quote name='Daddy']This one is cross platform as well...no UBISOFT game is not cross platform[/quote]

Farcry? Drakengard 2? I think you are wrong in this case. Until Assassins Creed is announced to be on the 360, its not a cross platform game.
 
[quote name='whoknows']BC is an excellent reason for buying a system. For you being a "hardcore gamer" needing to play whats new and hot, doesnt mean BC is useless. There will still be many great PS2 games coming out after the PS3 launches. I dont want to have to keep or rebuy a PS2 so I can play God Of War 2, when instead I can play it on my current next-gen system. The same goes for any other PS2 games that will be released. And BC doesnt mean that you are playing games you already played. If you have played every PS2/Xbox/GC game and have no need for BC then good for you, a lot of us haven't.



Farcry? Drakengard 2? I think you are wrong in this case. Until Assassins Creed is announced to be on the 360, its not a cross platform game.[/QUOTE]

True far cry wasnt multiplatform... but ps2 couldnt handle it...youll see I bet assasins creed shows up on 360. Yes to answer your question i've played pretty much every good title (pychonauts on xbox has eluded me but no other game has yet on any system)

As far as you rebuying games...when next gen stuff or systems come out *I'll assume you know this* the new system takes over and within 6 months you can go to any EB or gamestop and every game you want will be yellow stickered in a bin and like a unwanted used condomn for a bargain price until every title sells out. By then I'll imagine youll be on God Of war 3 and part 2 will be a washed up version. You can use any system from the past as an example....thats why BC is funny to me...its important until it becomes obsolete or something to do when no new titles are releasing for the new system IE= 360 or PS3 .....THATS when BC really comes into play.

Either way having old games isnt the factor to buy a new system its the games that are on the NEW system that matter (you can just keep your old system to play the old games...2 machines wouldnt hurt you unless the newer one has anti-aliasing)
 
sony always had the worst hardware among competition, however this time the ps3 already won the tech race, and most likely the software race too with DMC4 and MGS4 and FF13 etc.

the ONLY thing going against the system is the price.
 
[quote name='omegaweapon7']sony always had the worst hardware among competition, however this time the ps3 already won the tech race, and most likely the software race too with DMC4 and MGS4 and FF13 etc.

the ONLY thing going against the system is the price.[/QUOTE]


LOL....you saying this based on a non exsistant system? Too funny, notice all your titles are version like 4-13 of already exsist games? I like original games more sorry.
 
[quote name='Daddy']LOL....you saying this based on a non exsistant system? Too funny, notice all your titles are version like 4-13 of already exsist games? I like original games more sorry.[/QUOTE]
And I'm sure you don't like PGR3, PD0, Amped 3, FNR3, Burnout 4, GRAW (what's that 4? 5?), RR6, Quake 4, Elder Scrolls 4, DW5, BF2, TR7, FFXI, Hitman 4, and the most original of them all, Halo 3. Every system has sequels, so stop acting it's a bad thing, especially for the PS3.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']And I'm sure you don't like PGR3, PD0, Amped 3, FNR3, Burnout 4, GRAW (what's that 4? 5?), RR6, Quake 4, Elder Scrolls 4, DW5, BF2, TR7, FFXI, Hitman 4, and the most original of them all, Halo 3. Every system has sequels, so stop acting it's a bad thing, especially for the PS3.[/QUOTE]


You cant expect much from fanboys of systems.And daddy is clearly a fanboy for 360.
 
Not this time around...not being a fanboy but there's nothing at all that I have seen that makes me consider paying 600 dollars. I already have a 360 and most likely a DS and Wii on the way, I've bought the other Sony systems before and was happy with the PS1 and the PS2 was pretty cool for a while, but for now they will have to take the bench in terms of the gaming community. Take out all this shit that no one cares about (Blu-ray) and lower the price and then they can compete, but the next gen is not looking promising here.
 
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