akilshohen
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At this rate, I'll never own a sony system while it current gen. But I did tell my friend that we should go half on one so we can sell it on eBay
Lets be real...can you still support SONY?
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As long as there is decent support for the PS2, I will continue to buy games for it. I am in no rush to switch over to any new system.
[quote name='Daddy']I wonder if they will make the nov.17th launch date or we see a different launch price at the last second[/QUOTE]
Im hoping they delay it by a few weeks Since thats when ill be back in the states and able to wait out of bestbuy for 12 hours to get one. But something tells me they really want to make this date.
Im hoping they delay it by a few weeks Since thats when ill be back in the states and able to wait out of bestbuy for 12 hours to get one. But something tells me they really want to make this date.
I really really hate the direction this thing is going. It is a damn shame too, because I would really love to enjoy Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy XIII. I just dont give a damn though, I will never spend $600 on a console. Those 2 titles will be greatest hits probably long before the price of the PS3 drops enough for me to bite.
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yeah with all the crap surrounding the PS3, i think it might even fail and sony loses their dominance.. but for some reason i feel that it will eventually become the top dog just like PS1 and PS2 did, albeit slower. i don't know many people who will plunk down $600 on a console on launch day..
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The way I see it with blu-ray problems,pricing and first wave titles and hardware issues I cant see SONY taking on Wii and 360...SONY is gonna get tag teamed badly....I see 360 hitting them with R6:Vegas,Splinter Cell double agent,F.E.A.R,Call Of Duty 3,Forza 2,Mass effect and Gears of War all around launch time of PS3 just to name a few...once Halo 3 comes out a few months later into 2007 SONY will be really hurting....especially if 360 does the rumored bundle with arcade points,couple months of LIVE and a game. Not to mention that XBLA will have Texas Holdem & Lumines 2 as some big hitters as well.
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[quote name='jah2004']I really really hate the direction this thing is going. It is a damn shame too, because I would really love to enjoy Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy XIII. I just dont give a damn though, I will never spend $600 on a console. Those 2 titles will be greatest hits probably long before the price of the PS3 drops enough for me to bite.[/quote]
I'm more concerned about the quirky independent stuff that used to come out on Playstation, who is going to do that if Sony fails?
Nintendo can only get first-party titles out the door anymore, and M$oft is too focused on either creating the latest graphically-intense FPS or churning out yet another mediocre platformer.
I'm more concerned about the quirky independent stuff that used to come out on Playstation, who is going to do that if Sony fails?
Nintendo can only get first-party titles out the door anymore, and M$oft is too focused on either creating the latest graphically-intense FPS or churning out yet another mediocre platformer.
[quote name='camoor']I'm more concerned about the quirky independent stuff that used to come out on Playstation, who is going to do that if Sony fails?
Nintendo can only get first-party titles out the door anymore, and M$oft is too focused on either creating the latest graphically-intense FPS or churning out yet another mediocre platformer.[/QUOTE]
Sony's not going to fail, MINIDISC is still around and for the most part it's practically dead. Microsoft would give up on 360 before Sony gave up the Playstation name.
No matter how revolutionary, or how incredible, a Nintendo console may be, it will always be just that, a Nintendo console.
Nintendo can only get first-party titles out the door anymore, and M$oft is too focused on either creating the latest graphically-intense FPS or churning out yet another mediocre platformer.[/QUOTE]
Sony's not going to fail, MINIDISC is still around and for the most part it's practically dead. Microsoft would give up on 360 before Sony gave up the Playstation name.
No matter how revolutionary, or how incredible, a Nintendo console may be, it will always be just that, a Nintendo console.
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[quote name='SlippyToad']I don't see your point?[/quote]
It's because the Playstation is MORE than a console.... IT'S A COMPUTER! (DUH) :lol:
http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/sony/uk-court-of-appeals-says-ps2-is-not-a-computer-181997.php
It's because the Playstation is MORE than a console.... IT'S A COMPUTER! (DUH) :lol:
http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/sony/uk-court-of-appeals-says-ps2-is-not-a-computer-181997.php
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Ugh, is everyone in forums a Wii60 cult member?
[quote name='Daddy']No just realists......Funny about MS and there strategy....the line up of games coming out in october and november is insane[/QUOTE]
It would have been nice if the line-up of games coming out over the past summer would have been, you know, actually there. Their July wasn't bad and I'm totally gay for Dead Rising, but it was a real missed opportunity to get some people aboard in the post E3 months, especially considering how bleh the summer was for games. Hurrah for run on sentences.
It would have been nice if the line-up of games coming out over the past summer would have been, you know, actually there. Their July wasn't bad and I'm totally gay for Dead Rising, but it was a real missed opportunity to get some people aboard in the post E3 months, especially considering how bleh the summer was for games. Hurrah for run on sentences.
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[quote name='furyk']It would have been nice if the line-up of games coming out over the past summer would have been, you know, actually there. Their July wasn't bad and I'm totally gay for Dead Rising, but it was a real missed opportunity to get some people aboard in the post E3 months, especially considering how bleh the summer was for games. Hurrah for run on sentences.[/QUOTE]
Yes run on sentences rule and for the record its great b/c when you are right people love to try and come back but catching grammar instead of posting a response, but hey when your fooked and have no come back i guess you cant say nu uh. Anyway........no summer is ever filled with games since (kids) are off from school and the weather is nice out (yes some kids actually go outside, I know its crazy!) Try Lord Of the Rings Battle for Middle earth 2 as its without a doubt the sleeper hit of the summer! now dead Rising is here and then Saints Row....then the shite storm of games for October/November will steal the rest of your life energy for well into the 1st qauter of 2007
Yes run on sentences rule and for the record its great b/c when you are right people love to try and come back but catching grammar instead of posting a response, but hey when your fooked and have no come back i guess you cant say nu uh. Anyway........no summer is ever filled with games since (kids) are off from school and the weather is nice out (yes some kids actually go outside, I know its crazy!) Try Lord Of the Rings Battle for Middle earth 2 as its without a doubt the sleeper hit of the summer! now dead Rising is here and then Saints Row....then the shite storm of games for October/November will steal the rest of your life energy for well into the 1st qauter of 2007
There were a few summers that tried to be filled with games. Square's Summer of Square pops into mind for what they did in 2000, the Summer where they released Threads of Fate, Legend of Dragoon, and Chrono Cross in a three month period. Also the DS had a fairly large push last summer when Meteos and Kirby's Canvas Curse were released a few weeks apart. There aren't a ton of examples, but a number of console games that suceeded in generating buzz over the summer months.
Battle for Middle Earth 2 won't sell anyone on the Xbox 360 because of two facts. It's an RTS which generally flop on the home console, and it's avalible on the PC. Anyone who wants BoME 2 and doesn't have a 360 would most likely have a PC capable of playing the game.
In short, Microsoft blew their best opportunity to get a real lead over the PS3 by all but abandoning the market in the summer months because of traditionally slow sales. Microsoft should have thought about all of those kids not out playing in the sun, but who were home from college or off from high school working for some spending money. Instead, Microsoft is going to take on the PS3 launch with what 5 million 360s sold (a good number, but not a great number) and a system that is dead in Japan. I guarentee you Sony won't sit on the Summer of 07 releasing only three moderately large titles, two of which can be played on the PC.
Battle for Middle Earth 2 won't sell anyone on the Xbox 360 because of two facts. It's an RTS which generally flop on the home console, and it's avalible on the PC. Anyone who wants BoME 2 and doesn't have a 360 would most likely have a PC capable of playing the game.
In short, Microsoft blew their best opportunity to get a real lead over the PS3 by all but abandoning the market in the summer months because of traditionally slow sales. Microsoft should have thought about all of those kids not out playing in the sun, but who were home from college or off from high school working for some spending money. Instead, Microsoft is going to take on the PS3 launch with what 5 million 360s sold (a good number, but not a great number) and a system that is dead in Japan. I guarentee you Sony won't sit on the Summer of 07 releasing only three moderately large titles, two of which can be played on the PC.
No. I had a PS1 and have a PS2. I have a Sony TV, Receiver, speaker system, dvd player, cd player and discman currently.
But sony has irked me with the pricing and strategy of the PS3 (and to a lesser extent the PSP) in increasing price, and adding a bunch of non gaming features that are driving the price up that I won't use, that at this point I plan not to buy another sony product period.
But sony has irked me with the pricing and strategy of the PS3 (and to a lesser extent the PSP) in increasing price, and adding a bunch of non gaming features that are driving the price up that I won't use, that at this point I plan not to buy another sony product period.
[quote name='furyk']There were a few summers that tried to be filled with games. Square's Summer of Square pop[/QUOTE]
Yes, Square's Summer of Adventure, each game came with a mini sound track and if you got all 3 you got a small backpack.
I don't know why people think summer doesn't have any games..in fact, there are more games May - September for me than there are the rest of the year. King of Fighters, Dirge of Cerebrus, XENOSAGA EPISODE III, DDR Super Nova,
And I don't know how "mainstream" gamers can complain, tons of sports games and action games come out during the summer
Plus this summer had a huge console launch [DS LITE] and new greatest hits on both PS2 and PSP...
So I don't know about summers being slow, they're not..
Yes, Square's Summer of Adventure, each game came with a mini sound track and if you got all 3 you got a small backpack.
I don't know why people think summer doesn't have any games..in fact, there are more games May - September for me than there are the rest of the year. King of Fighters, Dirge of Cerebrus, XENOSAGA EPISODE III, DDR Super Nova,
And I don't know how "mainstream" gamers can complain, tons of sports games and action games come out during the summer
Plus this summer had a huge console launch [DS LITE] and new greatest hits on both PS2 and PSP...
So I don't know about summers being slow, they're not..
Daddy
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[quote name='sarausagi']Yes, Square's Summer of Adventure, each game came with a mini sound track and if you got all 3 you got a small backpack.
I don't know why people think summer doesn't have any games..in fact, there are more games May - September for me than there are the rest of the year. King of Fighters, Dirge of Cerebrus, XENOSAGA EPISODE III, DDR Super Nova,
And I don't know how "mainstream" gamers can complain, tons of sports games and action games come out during the summer
Plus this summer had a huge console launch [DS LITE] and new greatest hits on both PS2 and PSP...
So I don't know about summers being slow, they're not..[/QUOTE]
Must be the lack of AAA titles.....again think sales numbers, thats what companies are thinking...though it may be a "great game" to a gamer
and to answer the other poster i dont think SONY is gonna do shite, with all the problems they have goin into this there gonna get hit in the face here by MS and kicked in the balls by Nintendo. Also console gamers and PC gamers are usually worlds apart, so have fun upgrading your PC just so you can play a game that a console gamer has no trouble popping in and playing right from the start
I don't know why people think summer doesn't have any games..in fact, there are more games May - September for me than there are the rest of the year. King of Fighters, Dirge of Cerebrus, XENOSAGA EPISODE III, DDR Super Nova,
And I don't know how "mainstream" gamers can complain, tons of sports games and action games come out during the summer
Plus this summer had a huge console launch [DS LITE] and new greatest hits on both PS2 and PSP...
So I don't know about summers being slow, they're not..[/QUOTE]
Must be the lack of AAA titles.....again think sales numbers, thats what companies are thinking...though it may be a "great game" to a gamer
and to answer the other poster i dont think SONY is gonna do shite, with all the problems they have goin into this there gonna get hit in the face here by MS and kicked in the balls by Nintendo. Also console gamers and PC gamers are usually worlds apart, so have fun upgrading your PC just so you can play a game that a console gamer has no trouble popping in and playing right from the start
[quote name='sarausagi']Yes, Square's Summer of Adventure, each game came with a mini sound track and if you got all 3 you got a small backpack.
I don't know why people think summer doesn't have any games..in fact, there are more games May - September for me than there are the rest of the year. King of Fighters, Dirge of Cerebrus, XENOSAGA EPISODE III, DDR Super Nova,
And I don't know how "mainstream" gamers can complain, tons of sports games and action games come out during the summer
Plus this summer had a huge console launch [DS LITE] and new greatest hits on both PS2 and PSP...
So I don't know about summers being slow, they're not..[/QUOTE]
It's not so much that summers are slow, it's just that there's a dearth of games during the rest of the year. There are very few AAA releases over the Summer. The point I was trying to make is that if Microsoft had shipped something, anything significant they'd be in much better shape then they are right now. If they had gotten even something silly like Viva Pinata out, they could have capitalized on what has been a relatively slow summer. Also, every game you mentioned is coming out late August to September when all the kids are back in school. Even though my Poison calendar says it's still Summer then, most of the advantages of launching a game during Summer for the sub-25 year old gamers are gone by that time.
The DS Lite launch was huge, but it relied on previously released titles to drive it, not so much new stuff, and the PSP/PS2 GHs have been out for a while. Hell, the PSP has had a great summer with VP:L, the new Tekken, Loco Roco in Europe, and the MGS: Digital Graphic Novel (cool if you're a fan of the franchise).
Regardless, that's Sony and Nintendo doing something to encourage people to get on board with them. What did Microsoft do that positioned them to win this console war in the (Japan)?
Edit: Too much posting yesterday makes me switch words apparently.
If anything, Sony has taken some major steps to winning the next console war by establishing the PSP as a viable platform and allowing a ton of wireless connectivity with it. Sure, Nintendo has done the same, but they're positioning themself to be first by being everyone's second console this generation. I think a lot of people who are kind of on the fence about the PS3 that bought a PSP because of the great titles this summer are more likely to buy a PS3 now over an Xbox 360. Even though I think the PS3 launch is going to be full of holes and that Blu Ray is a shitty format, I feel that Sony is in a better position to "win" this generation of consoles then they were after E3.
[quote name='Daddy']and to answer the other poster i dont think SONY is gonna do shite, with all the problems they have goin into this there gonna get hit in the face here by MS and kicked in the balls by Nintendo. Also console gamers and PC gamers are usually worlds apart, so have fun upgrading your PC just so you can play a game that a console gamer has no trouble popping in and playing right from the start[/QUOTE]
Not trying to flame you here, but show me one gamer who prefers an RTS on a console to a PC. Also, what new gamers were brought in by Prey? The average first person shooter gamer who would be intereted in Prey already has a PC powerful enough to play Prey or already has an Xbox 360. The only first person shooter at the moment that will bring over PC gamers to the system is Halo 3 and that's at least 16 months away. Microsoft has done nothing so far, besides Elder Scrolls IV (again, another PC game), to prove that it is a console that is viable for anything besides First Person Shooters, sports, and racing games. When the 360 has a few RPGs, truly entertaining platformers (sorry Kameo), or a fighting game with some depth to it, then we'll talk about it as a viable canidate to challenge the PS3. Looking at the release dates, that's going to happen in October but I think it's way too late for Microsoft to get any significant bump from it as the PS3 hype machine will be in full swing and the Wii will be out or out in two weeks.
I don't know why people think summer doesn't have any games..in fact, there are more games May - September for me than there are the rest of the year. King of Fighters, Dirge of Cerebrus, XENOSAGA EPISODE III, DDR Super Nova,
And I don't know how "mainstream" gamers can complain, tons of sports games and action games come out during the summer
Plus this summer had a huge console launch [DS LITE] and new greatest hits on both PS2 and PSP...
So I don't know about summers being slow, they're not..[/QUOTE]
It's not so much that summers are slow, it's just that there's a dearth of games during the rest of the year. There are very few AAA releases over the Summer. The point I was trying to make is that if Microsoft had shipped something, anything significant they'd be in much better shape then they are right now. If they had gotten even something silly like Viva Pinata out, they could have capitalized on what has been a relatively slow summer. Also, every game you mentioned is coming out late August to September when all the kids are back in school. Even though my Poison calendar says it's still Summer then, most of the advantages of launching a game during Summer for the sub-25 year old gamers are gone by that time.
The DS Lite launch was huge, but it relied on previously released titles to drive it, not so much new stuff, and the PSP/PS2 GHs have been out for a while. Hell, the PSP has had a great summer with VP:L, the new Tekken, Loco Roco in Europe, and the MGS: Digital Graphic Novel (cool if you're a fan of the franchise).
Regardless, that's Sony and Nintendo doing something to encourage people to get on board with them. What did Microsoft do that positioned them to win this console war in the (Japan)?
Edit: Too much posting yesterday makes me switch words apparently.
If anything, Sony has taken some major steps to winning the next console war by establishing the PSP as a viable platform and allowing a ton of wireless connectivity with it. Sure, Nintendo has done the same, but they're positioning themself to be first by being everyone's second console this generation. I think a lot of people who are kind of on the fence about the PS3 that bought a PSP because of the great titles this summer are more likely to buy a PS3 now over an Xbox 360. Even though I think the PS3 launch is going to be full of holes and that Blu Ray is a shitty format, I feel that Sony is in a better position to "win" this generation of consoles then they were after E3.
[quote name='Daddy']and to answer the other poster i dont think SONY is gonna do shite, with all the problems they have goin into this there gonna get hit in the face here by MS and kicked in the balls by Nintendo. Also console gamers and PC gamers are usually worlds apart, so have fun upgrading your PC just so you can play a game that a console gamer has no trouble popping in and playing right from the start[/QUOTE]
Not trying to flame you here, but show me one gamer who prefers an RTS on a console to a PC. Also, what new gamers were brought in by Prey? The average first person shooter gamer who would be intereted in Prey already has a PC powerful enough to play Prey or already has an Xbox 360. The only first person shooter at the moment that will bring over PC gamers to the system is Halo 3 and that's at least 16 months away. Microsoft has done nothing so far, besides Elder Scrolls IV (again, another PC game), to prove that it is a console that is viable for anything besides First Person Shooters, sports, and racing games. When the 360 has a few RPGs, truly entertaining platformers (sorry Kameo), or a fighting game with some depth to it, then we'll talk about it as a viable canidate to challenge the PS3. Looking at the release dates, that's going to happen in October but I think it's way too late for Microsoft to get any significant bump from it as the PS3 hype machine will be in full swing and the Wii will be out or out in two weeks.
Daddy
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Regardless, that's Sony and Nintendo doing something to encourage people to get on board with them. What did Microsoft do that positioned them to win this console war in the US?[/QUOTE]
Is this a joke? XBOX LIVE for starters,XBOX LIVE ARCADE....games: GRAW,OBLIVION,COD2,LOTR2,DOA4, what did SONY do for its PS3?...NOTHING but BAD NEWS
[quote name='furyk']
If anything, Sony has taken some major steps to winning the next console war by establishing the PSP as a viable platform and allowing a ton of wireless connectivity with it. Sure, Nintendo has done the same, but they're positioning themself to be first by being everyone's second console this generation. I think a lot of people who are kind of on the fence about the PS3 that bought a PSP because of the great titles this summer are more likely to buy a PS3 now over an Xbox 360. Even though I think the PS3 launch is going to be full of holes and that Blu Ray is a shitty format, I feel that Sony is in a better position to "win" this generation of consoles then they were after E3.[/QUOTE]
First off PSP is garbage....I have one and its collecting dust...you said: "The DS Lite launch was huge, but it relied on previously released titles to drive it, not so much new stuff" WOW, just WOW...thats the exact arguement i would have said about the PSP.....ok when was the first original title on the PSP that wasnt absolute crap that wasnt a Ps game already? Lumines perhaps? Oh and always loved the $30 dollar movies on a 3 inch screen...lol oh thats right that format is dying as well.
Second you think Ps3 is in a good position with what exactly? The price?,The over promised and under-delivered specs? The useless $499 version? Oh the smoke up everyone arse with pre-rendered footage from E3 2005 of Killzone 2 that "disappeared" at E3 2006? Forcing you into an UNAPPROVED format (Blu-ray) Gaint crabs perhaps?[/QUOTE]
[quote name='furyk']
Not trying to flame you here, but show me one gamer who prefers an RTS on a console to a PC. Also, what new gamers were brought in by Prey? The average first person shooter gamer who would be intereted in Prey already has a PC powerful enough to play Prey or already has an Xbox 360. The only first person shooter at the moment that will bring over PC gamers to the system is Halo 3 and that's at least 16 months away. Microsoft has done nothing so far, besides Elder Scrolls IV (again, another PC game), to prove that it is a console that is viable for anything besides First Person Shooters, sports, and racing games. When the 360 has a few RPGs, truly entertaining platformers (sorry Kameo), or a fighting game with some depth to it, then we'll talk about it as a viable canidate to challenge the PS3. Looking at the release dates, that's going to happen in October but I think it's way too late for Microsoft to get any significant bump from it as the PS3 hype machine will be in full swing and the Wii will be out or out in two weeks.[/QUOTE]
Ok im not tryin flame you either but I know RTS is best on PC, but LOTR2 is THE BEST RTS on a console EVER and finally someone did it right. Second who mentioned PREY? Third, and again console and PC gamers are in 2 different catagories and the MAIN differnce is a console isnt upgraded like a pc is so again you have fun spending extra cash to upgrade just to play a game. The cost for PC gaming is too steep in most cases. Again we are talking CONSOLES here not bringing the PC market over to consoles...talkin straight up console vs. console and I dont see hype being enough for anything more than a "gotta have it" surge in the beginning, especially with most of the PS3 titles on 360. Mark my words "I CANT FRIGGIN WAIT FOR BLU_RAY TO LOSE THE FORMAT WAR" the forums will be on absolute fire, i'll guess that blu-ray turns into a storage format for PC but not a movie format standard....or just disappears. I think Nintendo is up in the air and is smart to let the heavy hitters duke it out and let the dust settle.....I wouldnt be surprised to see some one out of the big three turn into the next SEGA and just make games instead of consoles, but im sure thats down the road. To answer about october not being close enough I dont know about SONY being so hot with a $600 tag then tax, at least 1 game and one extra controller or charger kit for the controllers I cant see the $800 going into that when the same games are on Xbox 360 for much less OR you pick up a WII for WAY LESS overall. Again the stupid,uninformed,brand whores and gotta havers will always pay ridiclous amounts for the new consoles good or bad (remember 360 ebay prices?) wether they know about the system or some employee at the store gave them bunk info that hyped them up about it. We are alomst half way through august now and only have about a month and half till october and 2 and 1/2 months till november so I guess we will see.
Regardless, that's Sony and Nintendo doing something to encourage people to get on board with them. What did Microsoft do that positioned them to win this console war in the US?[/QUOTE]
Is this a joke? XBOX LIVE for starters,XBOX LIVE ARCADE....games: GRAW,OBLIVION,COD2,LOTR2,DOA4, what did SONY do for its PS3?...NOTHING but BAD NEWS
[quote name='furyk']
If anything, Sony has taken some major steps to winning the next console war by establishing the PSP as a viable platform and allowing a ton of wireless connectivity with it. Sure, Nintendo has done the same, but they're positioning themself to be first by being everyone's second console this generation. I think a lot of people who are kind of on the fence about the PS3 that bought a PSP because of the great titles this summer are more likely to buy a PS3 now over an Xbox 360. Even though I think the PS3 launch is going to be full of holes and that Blu Ray is a shitty format, I feel that Sony is in a better position to "win" this generation of consoles then they were after E3.[/QUOTE]
First off PSP is garbage....I have one and its collecting dust...you said: "The DS Lite launch was huge, but it relied on previously released titles to drive it, not so much new stuff" WOW, just WOW...thats the exact arguement i would have said about the PSP.....ok when was the first original title on the PSP that wasnt absolute crap that wasnt a Ps game already? Lumines perhaps? Oh and always loved the $30 dollar movies on a 3 inch screen...lol oh thats right that format is dying as well.
Second you think Ps3 is in a good position with what exactly? The price?,The over promised and under-delivered specs? The useless $499 version? Oh the smoke up everyone arse with pre-rendered footage from E3 2005 of Killzone 2 that "disappeared" at E3 2006? Forcing you into an UNAPPROVED format (Blu-ray) Gaint crabs perhaps?[/QUOTE]
[quote name='furyk']
Not trying to flame you here, but show me one gamer who prefers an RTS on a console to a PC. Also, what new gamers were brought in by Prey? The average first person shooter gamer who would be intereted in Prey already has a PC powerful enough to play Prey or already has an Xbox 360. The only first person shooter at the moment that will bring over PC gamers to the system is Halo 3 and that's at least 16 months away. Microsoft has done nothing so far, besides Elder Scrolls IV (again, another PC game), to prove that it is a console that is viable for anything besides First Person Shooters, sports, and racing games. When the 360 has a few RPGs, truly entertaining platformers (sorry Kameo), or a fighting game with some depth to it, then we'll talk about it as a viable canidate to challenge the PS3. Looking at the release dates, that's going to happen in October but I think it's way too late for Microsoft to get any significant bump from it as the PS3 hype machine will be in full swing and the Wii will be out or out in two weeks.[/QUOTE]
Ok im not tryin flame you either but I know RTS is best on PC, but LOTR2 is THE BEST RTS on a console EVER and finally someone did it right. Second who mentioned PREY? Third, and again console and PC gamers are in 2 different catagories and the MAIN differnce is a console isnt upgraded like a pc is so again you have fun spending extra cash to upgrade just to play a game. The cost for PC gaming is too steep in most cases. Again we are talking CONSOLES here not bringing the PC market over to consoles...talkin straight up console vs. console and I dont see hype being enough for anything more than a "gotta have it" surge in the beginning, especially with most of the PS3 titles on 360. Mark my words "I CANT FRIGGIN WAIT FOR BLU_RAY TO LOSE THE FORMAT WAR" the forums will be on absolute fire, i'll guess that blu-ray turns into a storage format for PC but not a movie format standard....or just disappears. I think Nintendo is up in the air and is smart to let the heavy hitters duke it out and let the dust settle.....I wouldnt be surprised to see some one out of the big three turn into the next SEGA and just make games instead of consoles, but im sure thats down the road. To answer about october not being close enough I dont know about SONY being so hot with a $600 tag then tax, at least 1 game and one extra controller or charger kit for the controllers I cant see the $800 going into that when the same games are on Xbox 360 for much less OR you pick up a WII for WAY LESS overall. Again the stupid,uninformed,brand whores and gotta havers will always pay ridiclous amounts for the new consoles good or bad (remember 360 ebay prices?) wether they know about the system or some employee at the store gave them bunk info that hyped them up about it. We are alomst half way through august now and only have about a month and half till october and 2 and 1/2 months till november so I guess we will see.
Metal Boss
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and the "debate" rages on.
[quote name='Daddy']Is this a joke? XBOX LIVE for starters,XBOX LIVE ARCADE....games: GRAW,OBLIVION,COD2,LOTR2,DOA4, what did SONY do for its PS3?...NOTHING but BAD NEWS[/quote]
Yeah, I meant Japan and typed US.
[quote name='Daddy']First off PSP is garbage....I have one and its collecting dust...you said: "The DS Lite launch was huge, but it relied on previously released titles to drive it, not so much new stuff" WOW, just WOW...thats the exact arguement i would have said about the PSP.....ok when was the first original title on the PSP that wasnt absolute crap that wasnt a Ps game already? Lumines perhaps? Oh and always loved the $30 dollar movies on a 3 inch screen...lol oh thats right that format is dying as well.[/quote]
I agree with you completely. You're misinterupting me saying "success of DS Lite depended on previously released games" followed by "PSP has had a good summer" as two statements that are connected. All I'm saying is that in the absence of a lot of big releases this summer the PSP had a Metal Gear thing come out, Tekken get a brand new game, and Square Enix put out a port of one of the most rarest games from the PS1 generation. The PSP launch was horseshit, like most launches.
[quote name='Daddy']Second you think Ps3 is in a good position with what exactly? The price?,The over promised and under-delivered specs? The useless $499 version? Oh the smoke up everyone arse with pre-rendered footage from E3 2005 of Killzone 2 that "disappeared" at E3 2006? Forcing you into an UNAPPROVED format (Blu-ray) Gaint crabs perhaps?[/QUOTE]
The casual gamer doesn't give a shit about E3. They care about Madden and other stuff you can do with your console. From what they know, Blu-Ray is the next DVD so they can watch movies on their new systems and play next gen Madden online. Sure, they can do it with a 360, but Madden on the PS3 has to be better because the system is more advanced because it costs more. That's their line of thinking. They don't care about the fact that the 360 is on its second generation of games, the developers have had trouble developing for the PS3, or that the system has a bunch of great games for it. When people think about next generation gaming, they still are wondering about when the PS3 comes out even though they can get a 360 right now. Sony is in a good position because of that and that alone.
[quote name='Daddy']Ok im not tryin flame you either but I know RTS is best on PC, but LOTR2 is THE BEST RTS on a console EVER and finally someone did it right.[/quote]
Sorry but like you said, someone did it right finally making it the best RTS on the console by default. It's like winning a foot race against a bunch of legless retards. There's not a lot of competition there. Does it diminsh LOTR 2 as a great game? Hell no. Does one multi-platform game bring in a genre of gamers that everyone who enjoys owns a PC capable of playing it sell any Xbox 360s? Not at all. Strategy titles aren't everyone's cup of tea so unless it's an exclusive or there's a bunch of them on one console, a RTS will never move systems unless it has the name "Craft" after it. Maybe it'll sell a few LOTR fans of the system who hate PC gaming, but by and large, Microsoft won't sell systems with this game. My main point was that this summer, they really should have had a game like that.
[quote name='Daddy']Second who mentioned PREY?[/quote]
Just trying to touch on the big releases of the Summer.
[quote name='Daddy']Third, and again console and PC gamers are in 2 different catagories and the MAIN differnce is a console isnt upgraded like a pc is so again you have fun spending extra cash to upgrade just to play a game. The cost for PC gaming is too steep in most cases. Again we are talking CONSOLES here not bringing the PC market over to consoles...talkin straight up console vs. console and I dont see hype being enough for anything more than a "gotta have it" surge in the beginning, especially with most of the PS3 titles on 360.[/quote]
The major fault of your argument is you ignore who is a console gamer and who is a PC gamer. When one of Microsoft's three major game categories that they release a lot of games on, the first person shooter, has traditionally been one of the PC's strongest genres, you can't ignore it. The 360 is targeting an audience that largely doesn't care about playing FPSes with a control. Some will come on board, but ultimately the cost of upgrading your PC with a new graphics card every four years or so, RAM, memory, and so forth has reached the price it costs to buy an Xbox 360.
You've got it down, but I think you're seriously underestimating the brand loyalty towards the PS3.
Yeah, I meant Japan and typed US.
[quote name='Daddy']First off PSP is garbage....I have one and its collecting dust...you said: "The DS Lite launch was huge, but it relied on previously released titles to drive it, not so much new stuff" WOW, just WOW...thats the exact arguement i would have said about the PSP.....ok when was the first original title on the PSP that wasnt absolute crap that wasnt a Ps game already? Lumines perhaps? Oh and always loved the $30 dollar movies on a 3 inch screen...lol oh thats right that format is dying as well.[/quote]
I agree with you completely. You're misinterupting me saying "success of DS Lite depended on previously released games" followed by "PSP has had a good summer" as two statements that are connected. All I'm saying is that in the absence of a lot of big releases this summer the PSP had a Metal Gear thing come out, Tekken get a brand new game, and Square Enix put out a port of one of the most rarest games from the PS1 generation. The PSP launch was horseshit, like most launches.
[quote name='Daddy']Second you think Ps3 is in a good position with what exactly? The price?,The over promised and under-delivered specs? The useless $499 version? Oh the smoke up everyone arse with pre-rendered footage from E3 2005 of Killzone 2 that "disappeared" at E3 2006? Forcing you into an UNAPPROVED format (Blu-ray) Gaint crabs perhaps?[/QUOTE]
The casual gamer doesn't give a shit about E3. They care about Madden and other stuff you can do with your console. From what they know, Blu-Ray is the next DVD so they can watch movies on their new systems and play next gen Madden online. Sure, they can do it with a 360, but Madden on the PS3 has to be better because the system is more advanced because it costs more. That's their line of thinking. They don't care about the fact that the 360 is on its second generation of games, the developers have had trouble developing for the PS3, or that the system has a bunch of great games for it. When people think about next generation gaming, they still are wondering about when the PS3 comes out even though they can get a 360 right now. Sony is in a good position because of that and that alone.
[quote name='Daddy']Ok im not tryin flame you either but I know RTS is best on PC, but LOTR2 is THE BEST RTS on a console EVER and finally someone did it right.[/quote]
Sorry but like you said, someone did it right finally making it the best RTS on the console by default. It's like winning a foot race against a bunch of legless retards. There's not a lot of competition there. Does it diminsh LOTR 2 as a great game? Hell no. Does one multi-platform game bring in a genre of gamers that everyone who enjoys owns a PC capable of playing it sell any Xbox 360s? Not at all. Strategy titles aren't everyone's cup of tea so unless it's an exclusive or there's a bunch of them on one console, a RTS will never move systems unless it has the name "Craft" after it. Maybe it'll sell a few LOTR fans of the system who hate PC gaming, but by and large, Microsoft won't sell systems with this game. My main point was that this summer, they really should have had a game like that.
[quote name='Daddy']Second who mentioned PREY?[/quote]
Just trying to touch on the big releases of the Summer.
[quote name='Daddy']Third, and again console and PC gamers are in 2 different catagories and the MAIN differnce is a console isnt upgraded like a pc is so again you have fun spending extra cash to upgrade just to play a game. The cost for PC gaming is too steep in most cases. Again we are talking CONSOLES here not bringing the PC market over to consoles...talkin straight up console vs. console and I dont see hype being enough for anything more than a "gotta have it" surge in the beginning, especially with most of the PS3 titles on 360.[/quote]
The major fault of your argument is you ignore who is a console gamer and who is a PC gamer. When one of Microsoft's three major game categories that they release a lot of games on, the first person shooter, has traditionally been one of the PC's strongest genres, you can't ignore it. The 360 is targeting an audience that largely doesn't care about playing FPSes with a control. Some will come on board, but ultimately the cost of upgrading your PC with a new graphics card every four years or so, RAM, memory, and so forth has reached the price it costs to buy an Xbox 360.
You've got it down, but I think you're seriously underestimating the brand loyalty towards the PS3.
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[quote name='Metal Boss']and the "debate" rages on.[/QUOTE]
I like games ....thats it for me..i dont care who actually has them....end of the story for me is i dont like being lied to ala SONY every year their sytem has exsisted ever. I dont like getting ripped off ala SONY price points on PS3 and Duo Cards for PSP. I dont wanna have to be part of a format war ala SONY. Granted MS and Nintendo have done there share but SONY just pisses me off at this point, and i cant see getting a PS3 for anything but MGS4 at this point...this launch is gonna be interesting to say the least
I like games ....thats it for me..i dont care who actually has them....end of the story for me is i dont like being lied to ala SONY every year their sytem has exsisted ever. I dont like getting ripped off ala SONY price points on PS3 and Duo Cards for PSP. I dont wanna have to be part of a format war ala SONY. Granted MS and Nintendo have done there share but SONY just pisses me off at this point, and i cant see getting a PS3 for anything but MGS4 at this point...this launch is gonna be interesting to say the least
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Plus its not hard with Phil Harrison at SONY constantly caught in lies to think bad about SONY:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103743
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Dude, that is your opinion on ps3 launch titles, I see plenty of games that look incredible aside from MGS4. it sounds as if you're asserting that into some kind of general consensus and are on a cruesade to thwart some unholy beast of your imagination. You can just as easily call their "lies" a miscalculation or accident on their part. You can't really say the playstation has had crappy games though and its just the continuation of quality that I'm looking forward too, and what matters really in the long run. I'm not focused on their marketing mistakes.
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[quote name='Metal Boss']Dude, that is your opinion on ps3 launch titles, I see plenty of games that look incredible aside from MGS4. it sounds as if you're asserting that into some kind of general consensus and are on a cruesade to thwart some unholy beast of your imagination. You can just as easily call their "lies" a miscalculation or accident on their part. You can't really say the playstation has had crappy games though and its just the continuation of quality that I'm looking forward too, and what matters really in the long run. I'm not focused on their marketing mistakes.[/QUOTE]
Ok, hahahah I like how you didnt name any..... name some then, titles that is that you are looking foward to that your 100% sure wont be on 360? (Dont bother saying Assasins Creed youll see that on 360)
Also marketing is one thing, SONY has ALWAYS lied and hyped up there shite since E3 with PS2 and the "emotion engine" yeah like that ever lived up to the rubber ducky hype....marketing mistakes to me is oops we put a white person on our billboard threating a black person for our PSP ad (which happenined and was pulled), not fooling the average joe by using pre-rendering and making people presume its in game footage (Killzone 2 which actually never showed at E3 2006 b/c they got called on that) or pulling specs out of the system later to get more sales out of people (yes some people dont keep up on the system specs and other things and rely on store employees and rumors and gossip) With all thats gone on the fact that you can defend them calling it a accident is absurd. If I lied to you once or twice you could call it a mistake, if i lied to you almost every single time i told you something would you still think i was credible? I doubt it and thats whats funny about it...another poster in the link i provided about Phil Harrison hit it on the head someone should shut SONY up till the launch that would be the biggest help right now for them
Ok, hahahah I like how you didnt name any..... name some then, titles that is that you are looking foward to that your 100% sure wont be on 360? (Dont bother saying Assasins Creed youll see that on 360)
Also marketing is one thing, SONY has ALWAYS lied and hyped up there shite since E3 with PS2 and the "emotion engine" yeah like that ever lived up to the rubber ducky hype....marketing mistakes to me is oops we put a white person on our billboard threating a black person for our PSP ad (which happenined and was pulled), not fooling the average joe by using pre-rendering and making people presume its in game footage (Killzone 2 which actually never showed at E3 2006 b/c they got called on that) or pulling specs out of the system later to get more sales out of people (yes some people dont keep up on the system specs and other things and rely on store employees and rumors and gossip) With all thats gone on the fact that you can defend them calling it a accident is absurd. If I lied to you once or twice you could call it a mistake, if i lied to you almost every single time i told you something would you still think i was credible? I doubt it and thats whats funny about it...another poster in the link i provided about Phil Harrison hit it on the head someone should shut SONY up till the launch that would be the biggest help right now for them
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I agree with you completely[/QUOTE]
Ah the unfortunate interpretation of the internet, its seems we do agree, i do realize (if you read my post to metal boss on this page) that the public is grossly lied to by SONY and if its retorded after the fact they usually dont even notice it (like the whole KillZone 2 bullshite) kids just remember Oh man KillZone looked so badass...now its no where to be seen. They remember old specs before they were pulled, employees at stores telling them misinformation,SONY as a brand, and Blu ray is new so this system must be banging.The fact its new and so "advanced" and the whole fanboy thing (which should not exsist you like games you play them who cares who makes them, a great game is a great game) I really hope the porn industry picks HD-DVD and that older generation people (the same ones who think a mp3 player and a ipod are 2 different items, like a kleenex and a tissue) see the word DVD in HD-DVD and associate it and help drive out Blu-ray......it would be COMPLETELY insane if Blu-ray gets beat out by HD-DVD for SONY and this system i cant even imagine what they would do?
I agree with you completely[/QUOTE]
Ah the unfortunate interpretation of the internet, its seems we do agree, i do realize (if you read my post to metal boss on this page) that the public is grossly lied to by SONY and if its retorded after the fact they usually dont even notice it (like the whole KillZone 2 bullshite) kids just remember Oh man KillZone looked so badass...now its no where to be seen. They remember old specs before they were pulled, employees at stores telling them misinformation,SONY as a brand, and Blu ray is new so this system must be banging.The fact its new and so "advanced" and the whole fanboy thing (which should not exsist you like games you play them who cares who makes them, a great game is a great game) I really hope the porn industry picks HD-DVD and that older generation people (the same ones who think a mp3 player and a ipod are 2 different items, like a kleenex and a tissue) see the word DVD in HD-DVD and associate it and help drive out Blu-ray......it would be COMPLETELY insane if Blu-ray gets beat out by HD-DVD for SONY and this system i cant even imagine what they would do?
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I dont get it, if "great games are great games who cares who made them," then why are all your posts obviously anti-sony? god knows sony didnt win the previous console war with advanced engine and honest marketing. alot of the fans like these "great games" which will continue on the ps3, saying Ps3 WILL have those games is merely a logical conclusion. I dont expect zelda is suddenly turn into crap, or halo suddenly turn crappier, so why should I expect the PS2 AAA series to suddenly turn into crap on ps3?
As for psp titles this summer, sony is making progress, they already won the entire racing/sports/FPS/fighting market, nintendo didnt even have a chance there. (did they even bother?)
And this upcoming console war? Next Gen or not, the ps2 is gonna dominate all the awards again, not because of graphical power, not because of OMGSONYLIE to the public, but because of:
FF12
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As for psp titles this summer, sony is making progress, they already won the entire racing/sports/FPS/fighting market, nintendo didnt even have a chance there. (did they even bother?)
And this upcoming console war? Next Gen or not, the ps2 is gonna dominate all the awards again, not because of graphical power, not because of OMGSONYLIE to the public, but because of:
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Just for launch titles...
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Just for launch titles...
[quote name='Metal Boss']The Getaway
Devil May Cry 4
Heavenly Sword
Final Fantasy
Metal gear solid 4
Just for launch titles...[/QUOTE]
According to the PS3 wiki, here's the list of launch titles:
* Resistance: Fall of Man
* Warhawk
* MotorStorm
* Ridge Racer 7
* Fatal Inertia
* Full Auto 2: Battlelines
* Blade Storm: Hundred Years War
* flOw
* Sonic the Hedgehog
* Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
* Call of Duty 3
* Lair
* Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas
* Need for Speed: Carbon
* NBA Live 07
And here's the list off of IGN:
November 17, 2006 Resistance: Fall of Man
November 17, 2006 Fatal Inertia
November 17, 2006 Genji 2
November 17, 2006 Call of Duty 3
November 17, 2006 Tony Hawk's Project 8
November 17, 2006 EA Sports Fight Night Round 3
November 17, 2006 Bladestorm: The Hundred Years War
November 17, 2006 Madden NFL 07
November 17, 2006 College Hoops 2K7
November 17, 2006 Sonic the Hedgehog
November 17, 2006 NBA Live 07
November 17, 2006 Full Auto 2: Battlelines
November 17, 2006 Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
November 17, 2006 Ridge Racer 7
November 17, 2006 Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas
November 17, 2006 Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
November 17, 2006 NHL 2K7
November 17, 2006 Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07
November 17, 2006 Need for Speed Carbon
November 17, 2006 Warhawk
November 17, 2006 flOw (PS3 Hub Download)
TBA 2006 Mobile Suit Gundam
I was a bit surprised to hear the MGS4 wasn't a launch game myself considering how hard they were pushing it at E3. For me personally, there's nothing really that compelling until Virtua Fighter 5 gets released in Q2 if IGN's dates are to be believed.
Devil May Cry 4
Heavenly Sword
Final Fantasy
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Just for launch titles...[/QUOTE]
According to the PS3 wiki, here's the list of launch titles:
* Resistance: Fall of Man
* Warhawk
* MotorStorm
* Ridge Racer 7
* Fatal Inertia
* Full Auto 2: Battlelines
* Blade Storm: Hundred Years War
* flOw
* Sonic the Hedgehog
* Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
* Call of Duty 3
* Lair
* Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas
* Need for Speed: Carbon
* NBA Live 07
And here's the list off of IGN:
November 17, 2006 Resistance: Fall of Man
November 17, 2006 Fatal Inertia
November 17, 2006 Genji 2
November 17, 2006 Call of Duty 3
November 17, 2006 Tony Hawk's Project 8
November 17, 2006 EA Sports Fight Night Round 3
November 17, 2006 Bladestorm: The Hundred Years War
November 17, 2006 Madden NFL 07
November 17, 2006 College Hoops 2K7
November 17, 2006 Sonic the Hedgehog
November 17, 2006 NBA Live 07
November 17, 2006 Full Auto 2: Battlelines
November 17, 2006 Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
November 17, 2006 Ridge Racer 7
November 17, 2006 Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas
November 17, 2006 Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
November 17, 2006 NHL 2K7
November 17, 2006 Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07
November 17, 2006 Need for Speed Carbon
November 17, 2006 Warhawk
November 17, 2006 flOw (PS3 Hub Download)
TBA 2006 Mobile Suit Gundam
I was a bit surprised to hear the MGS4 wasn't a launch game myself considering how hard they were pushing it at E3. For me personally, there's nothing really that compelling until Virtua Fighter 5 gets released in Q2 if IGN's dates are to be believed.
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[quote name='furyk']According to the PS3 wiki, here's the list of launch titles:
* Resistance: Fall of Man
* Warhawk
* MotorStorm
* Ridge Racer 7
* Fatal Inertia
* Full Auto 2: Battlelines
* Blade Storm: Hundred Years War
* flOw
* Sonic the Hedgehog
* Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
* Call of Duty 3
* Lair
* Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas
* Need for Speed: Carbon
* NBA Live 07
And here's the list off of IGN:
November 17, 2006 Resistance: Fall of Man
November 17, 2006 Fatal Inertia
November 17, 2006 Genji 2
November 17, 2006 Call of Duty 3
November 17, 2006 Tony Hawk's Project 8
November 17, 2006 EA Sports Fight Night Round 3
November 17, 2006 Bladestorm: The Hundred Years War
November 17, 2006 Madden NFL 07
November 17, 2006 College Hoops 2K7
November 17, 2006 Sonic the Hedgehog
November 17, 2006 NBA Live 07
November 17, 2006 Full Auto 2: Battlelines
November 17, 2006 Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
November 17, 2006 Ridge Racer 7
November 17, 2006 Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas
November 17, 2006 Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
November 17, 2006 NHL 2K7
November 17, 2006 Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07
November 17, 2006 Need for Speed Carbon
November 17, 2006 Warhawk
November 17, 2006 flOw (PS3 Hub Download)
TBA 2006 Mobile Suit Gundam
I was a bit surprised to hear the MGS4 wasn't a launch game myself considering how hard they were pushing it at E3. For me personally, there's nothing really that compelling until Virtua Fighter 5 gets released in Q2 if IGN's dates are to be believed.[/QUOTE]
Like I said....ONE GAME...RESISTANCE FALL OF MAN....if thats not the next halo that launch is garbage...... oh and maybe lair might turn out good. To answer omegaweapon7...my posts arent anti SONY per say, I just dont think SONY is doing the right things and I dont see any SONY games except Resistance fall of man that would make a sane person spend the $700-800 at launch just to play it....honestly can you? I think COD3 will be pushed back for 360 & PS3 out of this year as well...other than that why not play it on 360 if its so close graphically and to tell you the truth the PS controller has always been my favorite controller ever till the 360 came out....so i really cant justify the PS3 price (at launch) for one game or maybe 2 at best....I think any smart gamer would wait 6 months to a year for all the blu-ray crap and programming crud to die down on PS3 not to mention a big price reduction and a new wave of games before you even touch that system.
PS- Im surprised you didnt know MSG 4 wasnt a launch title....I wouldnt argue about the PS3 as much if it was but its still a hard pill to swallow
* Resistance: Fall of Man
* Warhawk
* MotorStorm
* Ridge Racer 7
* Fatal Inertia
* Full Auto 2: Battlelines
* Blade Storm: Hundred Years War
* flOw
* Sonic the Hedgehog
* Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
* Call of Duty 3
* Lair
* Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas
* Need for Speed: Carbon
* NBA Live 07
And here's the list off of IGN:
November 17, 2006 Resistance: Fall of Man
November 17, 2006 Fatal Inertia
November 17, 2006 Genji 2
November 17, 2006 Call of Duty 3
November 17, 2006 Tony Hawk's Project 8
November 17, 2006 EA Sports Fight Night Round 3
November 17, 2006 Bladestorm: The Hundred Years War
November 17, 2006 Madden NFL 07
November 17, 2006 College Hoops 2K7
November 17, 2006 Sonic the Hedgehog
November 17, 2006 NBA Live 07
November 17, 2006 Full Auto 2: Battlelines
November 17, 2006 Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
November 17, 2006 Ridge Racer 7
November 17, 2006 Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas
November 17, 2006 Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
November 17, 2006 NHL 2K7
November 17, 2006 Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07
November 17, 2006 Need for Speed Carbon
November 17, 2006 Warhawk
November 17, 2006 flOw (PS3 Hub Download)
TBA 2006 Mobile Suit Gundam
I was a bit surprised to hear the MGS4 wasn't a launch game myself considering how hard they were pushing it at E3. For me personally, there's nothing really that compelling until Virtua Fighter 5 gets released in Q2 if IGN's dates are to be believed.[/QUOTE]
Like I said....ONE GAME...RESISTANCE FALL OF MAN....if thats not the next halo that launch is garbage...... oh and maybe lair might turn out good. To answer omegaweapon7...my posts arent anti SONY per say, I just dont think SONY is doing the right things and I dont see any SONY games except Resistance fall of man that would make a sane person spend the $700-800 at launch just to play it....honestly can you? I think COD3 will be pushed back for 360 & PS3 out of this year as well...other than that why not play it on 360 if its so close graphically and to tell you the truth the PS controller has always been my favorite controller ever till the 360 came out....so i really cant justify the PS3 price (at launch) for one game or maybe 2 at best....I think any smart gamer would wait 6 months to a year for all the blu-ray crap and programming crud to die down on PS3 not to mention a big price reduction and a new wave of games before you even touch that system.
PS- Im surprised you didnt know MSG 4 wasnt a launch title....I wouldnt argue about the PS3 as much if it was but its still a hard pill to swallow
Wasn't Call of Duty the highest selling game for the 360 when it launched? So you could call that the "system seller". Fact is people bought it because it was next-gen. People will buy the PS3 because it's the newest and latest console at the time. Fable 2, Halo 3, etc. is coming down the pipeline just as Metal Gear 4, Final Fantasy 13, etc. will be.
Some people don't care what's out at the present, they want what's newest and latest now and they will wait for the games down the line for what they really bought it for. Everyone has different tastes and the PS3 will have a much bigger selection of eastern games that the 360 will never see.
Somehow people have the money for the 360/Wii combo but say the PS3 is too expensive. It's not about money for those people, it's about worth. Sometimes one console is better than two and I would take a PS2 over an Xbox/Gamecube combo even if price was equal. The PS2 has more games I like than Xbox/Gamecube combined and PS3 could do that again. Just like the 360 will get a lot of exclusives, especially PC games, the PS3 will get a lot of exclusive eastern games.
Some people don't care what's out at the present, they want what's newest and latest now and they will wait for the games down the line for what they really bought it for. Everyone has different tastes and the PS3 will have a much bigger selection of eastern games that the 360 will never see.
Somehow people have the money for the 360/Wii combo but say the PS3 is too expensive. It's not about money for those people, it's about worth. Sometimes one console is better than two and I would take a PS2 over an Xbox/Gamecube combo even if price was equal. The PS2 has more games I like than Xbox/Gamecube combined and PS3 could do that again. Just like the 360 will get a lot of exclusives, especially PC games, the PS3 will get a lot of exclusive eastern games.
[quote name='zerolens']Wasn't Call of Duty the highest selling game for the 360 when it launched? So you could call that the "system seller". Fact is people bought it because it was next-gen. People will buy the PS3 because it's the newest and latest console at the time. Fable 2, Halo 3, etc. is coming down the pipeline just as Metal Gear 4, Final Fantasy 13, etc. will be.
Some people don't care what's out at the present, they want what's newest and latest now and they will wait for the games down the line for what they really bought it for. Everyone has different tastes and the PS3 will have a much bigger selection of eastern games that the 360 will never see.
Somehow people have the money for the 360/Wii combo but say the PS3 is too expensive. It's not about money for those people, it's about worth. Sometimes one console is better than two and I would take a PS2 over an Xbox/Gamecube combo even if price was equal. The PS2 has more games I like than Xbox/Gamecube combined and PS3 could do that again. Just like the 360 will get a lot of exclusives, especially PC games, the PS3 will get a lot of exclusive eastern games.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. People bought a 360 not for Call of Duty 2 but to have a 360. The first real system seller for the 360 was Elder Scrolls 4 the same way that the PS3's first real system seller will probably be MGS 4 even if Resistance is awesome. The only brand new IP system seller I can think of in history is Halo.
Some people don't care what's out at the present, they want what's newest and latest now and they will wait for the games down the line for what they really bought it for. Everyone has different tastes and the PS3 will have a much bigger selection of eastern games that the 360 will never see.
Somehow people have the money for the 360/Wii combo but say the PS3 is too expensive. It's not about money for those people, it's about worth. Sometimes one console is better than two and I would take a PS2 over an Xbox/Gamecube combo even if price was equal. The PS2 has more games I like than Xbox/Gamecube combined and PS3 could do that again. Just like the 360 will get a lot of exclusives, especially PC games, the PS3 will get a lot of exclusive eastern games.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. People bought a 360 not for Call of Duty 2 but to have a 360. The first real system seller for the 360 was Elder Scrolls 4 the same way that the PS3's first real system seller will probably be MGS 4 even if Resistance is awesome. The only brand new IP system seller I can think of in history is Halo.
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[quote name='Daddy']Like I said....ONE GAME...RESISTANCE FALL OF MAN....if thats not the next halo that launch is garbage...... [/quote]
I think you're forgetting that Genji 2 is an a-shen game with real-time weapon change.
I think you're forgetting that Genji 2 is an a-shen game with real-time weapon change.
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[quote name='camoor']I think you're forgetting that Genji 2 is an a-shen game with real-time weapon change.[/quote]
Get over it.
Get over it.
[quote name='zerolens']Wasn't Call of Duty the highest selling game for the 360 when it launched? So you could call that the "system seller". Fact is people bought it because it was next-gen. People will buy the PS3 because it's the newest and latest console at the time. Fable 2, Halo 3, etc. is coming down the pipeline just as Metal Gear 4, Final Fantasy 13, etc. will be.
Some people don't care what's out at the present, they want what's newest and latest now and they will wait for the games down the line for what they really bought it for. Everyone has different tastes and the PS3 will have a much bigger selection of eastern games that the 360 will never see.
Somehow people have the money for the 360/Wii combo but say the PS3 is too expensive. It's not about money for those people, it's about worth. Sometimes one console is better than two and I would take a PS2 over an Xbox/Gamecube combo even if price was equal. The PS2 has more games I like than Xbox/Gamecube combined and PS3 could do that again. Just like the 360 will get a lot of exclusives, especially PC games, the PS3 will get a lot of exclusive eastern games.[/QUOTE]
I don't really think everyone who is going around talking about Wii60 is for real. The people who knew they were buying a "Wii" [or Revolution, or Gamecube 2, or whatever] will be happy enough with one console, and the people that already have a 360 will either stick with it or get a PS3 beside it. Especially considering how much game play you can get out of lots of the 360 games...
I can see though, lots of people [us on the "cheap" a/v people especially..and on the cheap in A/V still means a few hundred dollars on equipment] getting a 360 and a PS3, I can honestly see the HD-DVD 360 and PS3 blu-ray being my most viable options for high definition programming [movies plus games] for the next two or three years. The most I've paid for a reproduction unit is $200 and that was a 5 SACD/DVD changer with progressive scan component outs puts, coaxial/optical/six channel analog outs. I can't see myself paying $500 for a one disc HD-DVD player and $1000 for a one disc Blu Ray player...
However, if $1000 is going to get me a Blu Ray player, a HD-DVD player, two multimedia power houses, and the two major next generation gaming consoles, then yes, it's QUITE worth my money because they'll pretty much be the center of my media set up. Especially considering that 360 can do mp3/windows stuff and PS3 will be able to play import games, import movies, and SA-CD's. Plus the fact I'll have the best games of the generation, I won't be missing out on anything by having a PS3/360 and no Wii.
Some people don't care what's out at the present, they want what's newest and latest now and they will wait for the games down the line for what they really bought it for. Everyone has different tastes and the PS3 will have a much bigger selection of eastern games that the 360 will never see.
Somehow people have the money for the 360/Wii combo but say the PS3 is too expensive. It's not about money for those people, it's about worth. Sometimes one console is better than two and I would take a PS2 over an Xbox/Gamecube combo even if price was equal. The PS2 has more games I like than Xbox/Gamecube combined and PS3 could do that again. Just like the 360 will get a lot of exclusives, especially PC games, the PS3 will get a lot of exclusive eastern games.[/QUOTE]
I don't really think everyone who is going around talking about Wii60 is for real. The people who knew they were buying a "Wii" [or Revolution, or Gamecube 2, or whatever] will be happy enough with one console, and the people that already have a 360 will either stick with it or get a PS3 beside it. Especially considering how much game play you can get out of lots of the 360 games...
I can see though, lots of people [us on the "cheap" a/v people especially..and on the cheap in A/V still means a few hundred dollars on equipment] getting a 360 and a PS3, I can honestly see the HD-DVD 360 and PS3 blu-ray being my most viable options for high definition programming [movies plus games] for the next two or three years. The most I've paid for a reproduction unit is $200 and that was a 5 SACD/DVD changer with progressive scan component outs puts, coaxial/optical/six channel analog outs. I can't see myself paying $500 for a one disc HD-DVD player and $1000 for a one disc Blu Ray player...
However, if $1000 is going to get me a Blu Ray player, a HD-DVD player, two multimedia power houses, and the two major next generation gaming consoles, then yes, it's QUITE worth my money because they'll pretty much be the center of my media set up. Especially considering that 360 can do mp3/windows stuff and PS3 will be able to play import games, import movies, and SA-CD's. Plus the fact I'll have the best games of the generation, I won't be missing out on anything by having a PS3/360 and no Wii.
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[quote name='sarausagi']However, if $1000 is going to get me a Blu Ray player, a HD-DVD player, two multimedia power houses, and the two major next generation gaming consoles, then yes, it's QUITE worth my money because they'll pretty much be the center of my media set up. Especially considering that 360 can do mp3/windows stuff and PS3 will be able to play import games, import movies, and SA-CD's. Plus the fact I'll have the best games of the generation, I won't be missing out on anything by having a PS3/360 and no Wii.[/quote]
You are the demo Sony is going for. I'm just wondering if they overestimated the size of this market, or stopped to figure that these early adopters might already have some of this tech, and hence wouldn't need it in their PS3.
Also I don't think it plays HD-DVD - I think that's the point of Sony putting BluRay in.
You are the demo Sony is going for. I'm just wondering if they overestimated the size of this market, or stopped to figure that these early adopters might already have some of this tech, and hence wouldn't need it in their PS3.
Also I don't think it plays HD-DVD - I think that's the point of Sony putting BluRay in.
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[quote name='camoor']You are the demo Sony is going for. I'm just wondering if they overestimated the size of this market, or stopped to figure that these early adopters might already have some of this tech, and hence wouldn't need it in their PS3.
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Exactly they are looking for some high end demo and its just not enough of the market...the only reason id would want one at launch is b/c its the newest thing....not b/c it has any games i really NEED at this time
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Exactly they are looking for some high end demo and its just not enough of the market...the only reason id would want one at launch is b/c its the newest thing....not b/c it has any games i really NEED at this time
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Wow SONY is gay as can be:
PS2 gets pretty in pink in Europe
A pink PS2 is set for launch at Leipzig Games Convention, amid rumours of a price cut for the standard console in the UK.
By Staff, GameSpot UK
Posted Aug 21, 2006 5:00 am PT
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Sony Computer Entertainment Europe announced the latest member of the PlayStation family on Monday--a limited-edition slimline PlayStation 2 in pink.
The new console is set to hit store shelves on November 8, and will only be available from retail outlets in Europe. The new console will be shown off for the first time at the Games Convention in Leipzig, Germany, later this week.
The console will come with two matching pink analogue controllers, and a pink 8MB memory card.
SCEE said that "the decision to produce a pink console reflects the growing and diverse demographic that PlayStation 2 has developed." SCEE credited franchises such as Buzz!, SingStar, and other "socially interactive" titles for these demographic changes.
On the decision to launch the new colour, Dan Hill, the PlayStation 2 European brand manager, said: "The Pink PlayStation 2 is funky, fresh, and fashionable, and will further broaden the console's continuing popularity and relevance with a fun new twist."
This isn't the first time that Sony has released a new colour to try and inject life into its six-year-old console. The slimline version has been available in both silver and white--as well as the original black--while the original version was released, in various different territories, in Aqua Blue, Midnight Blue, gold, light yellow, silver, Ocean Blue, Zen Black--both of which were translucent--Sakura Pink, Snow White, and Super Red.
The Xbox 360 has so far escaped wholesale colouring, but the original Xbox was available, at various times in various territories, in at least eight colours.
In other PS2 news, UK trade magazine MCV is reporting that the standard slimline PS2's price will be cut to £95 later this week, but this has not yet been officially confirmed by Sony.
http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/news/08/21/newpinkps2_screen001.jpg
PS2 gets pretty in pink in Europe
A pink PS2 is set for launch at Leipzig Games Convention, amid rumours of a price cut for the standard console in the UK.
By Staff, GameSpot UK
Posted Aug 21, 2006 5:00 am PT
More Images (3) »
Sony Computer Entertainment Europe announced the latest member of the PlayStation family on Monday--a limited-edition slimline PlayStation 2 in pink.
The new console is set to hit store shelves on November 8, and will only be available from retail outlets in Europe. The new console will be shown off for the first time at the Games Convention in Leipzig, Germany, later this week.
The console will come with two matching pink analogue controllers, and a pink 8MB memory card.
SCEE said that "the decision to produce a pink console reflects the growing and diverse demographic that PlayStation 2 has developed." SCEE credited franchises such as Buzz!, SingStar, and other "socially interactive" titles for these demographic changes.
On the decision to launch the new colour, Dan Hill, the PlayStation 2 European brand manager, said: "The Pink PlayStation 2 is funky, fresh, and fashionable, and will further broaden the console's continuing popularity and relevance with a fun new twist."
This isn't the first time that Sony has released a new colour to try and inject life into its six-year-old console. The slimline version has been available in both silver and white--as well as the original black--while the original version was released, in various different territories, in Aqua Blue, Midnight Blue, gold, light yellow, silver, Ocean Blue, Zen Black--both of which were translucent--Sakura Pink, Snow White, and Super Red.
The Xbox 360 has so far escaped wholesale colouring, but the original Xbox was available, at various times in various territories, in at least eight colours.
In other PS2 news, UK trade magazine MCV is reporting that the standard slimline PS2's price will be cut to £95 later this week, but this has not yet been officially confirmed by Sony.
http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/news/08/21/newpinkps2_screen001.jpg
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Ummm now a matching PSP in pink...lol
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable...own-pink-with-its-psp-this-october-195771.php
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable...own-pink-with-its-psp-this-october-195771.php
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[quote name='Daddy']With everything we know now from Phil Harrison lies to missing components and empty promises does anyone think SONY will end up in a good position? I STILL cant understand why everyone who wants a PS3 is happy about a Blu-Ray player being included...I mean its a combo electronic device (BIG NO-NO) if your PS3 breaks then your movie player is broken too...who the hell buys combo devices? Old people do.....thats about it[/quote]
Wasn't the PS2 a combo device? And a whole hell of a lot of people bought one of those, not just old people.
You people need to stop crying and bitching about all the business aspects, and just enjoy the games. Did the fact that PS2's break on regular occassions, and that none of the games achieved "Toy Story" level graphics, did that stuff ever ruin your fun with the PS2? Executives lie, big companies want your money, that's business, that's life, everyone does it, so get over it.
Wasn't the PS2 a combo device? And a whole hell of a lot of people bought one of those, not just old people.
You people need to stop crying and bitching about all the business aspects, and just enjoy the games. Did the fact that PS2's break on regular occassions, and that none of the games achieved "Toy Story" level graphics, did that stuff ever ruin your fun with the PS2? Executives lie, big companies want your money, that's business, that's life, everyone does it, so get over it.
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[quote name='VanillaGorilla']Wasn't the PS2 a combo device? And a whole hell of a lot of people bought one of those, not just old people.
You people need to stop crying and bitching about all the business aspects, and just enjoy the games. Did the fact that PS2's break on regular occassions, and that none of the games achieved "Toy Story" level graphics, did that stuff ever ruin your fun with the PS2? Executives lie, big companies want your money, that's business, that's life, everyone does it, so get over it.[/QUOTE]
Actually by the time it was a combo device, DVD had been out for quite sometime...in this case blu-ray is a baby and an unconfirmed format....comon use comon sense when firing back in an arguement
You people need to stop crying and bitching about all the business aspects, and just enjoy the games. Did the fact that PS2's break on regular occassions, and that none of the games achieved "Toy Story" level graphics, did that stuff ever ruin your fun with the PS2? Executives lie, big companies want your money, that's business, that's life, everyone does it, so get over it.[/QUOTE]
Actually by the time it was a combo device, DVD had been out for quite sometime...in this case blu-ray is a baby and an unconfirmed format....comon use comon sense when firing back in an arguement
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