Mass Effect 3 Discussion Thread

[quote name='Salamando3000']Yeah, but they also mention *snip*[/QUOTE]

[quote name='Ryuukishi']What do you mean?[/QUOTE]

My mistake, must have missed that when I read through it last night. Either way, I'm not really concerned. As long as I can still import my Shepards with choices in tact and experience everything the game has to offer, I'm fine with it. Whatever else they do that might impact the campaign is just a bonus in my eyes.
 
Can finally post some thoughts on the MP announcement, now that I don't have class to worry about for a while. Also, some of these opinions will echo what Arikado has already mentioned (as we've already geeked-out about the announcement, seeing as how I totally called this forever ago):

As far as multiplayer announcements go regarding a Mass Effect game, this really is about as good as it could get (in my mind). I absolutely welcome this 4-player Co-Op mode with open arms, and I actually look forward to playing it (after beating the game a few times, of course).

Before the announcement was made, I already had three issues that I needed to be resolved before being alright with any multiplayer in ME3:

1. That Commander Shepard would not be featured in any way, shape, or form as far as playable characters. Referring to him (like the books do) is fine, but it obviously has to be very vague and very brief.

2. That it was completely optional and was not required to achieve 100% completion of the single player campaign.

3. That it did not involve competitive multiplayer, in the general player vs. player sense.

Aside from those main issues, I had no qualms with the idea of multiplayer Mass Effect. They're obviously going to keep the universe alive after Shepard's story is over, so I see nothing wrong with launching into different genres to try an expand upon the foundation that this series has placed.

When the announcement came in that MP was going to be in the game, I didn't immediately freak out (in a good or bad way) and grabbed my small checklist to compare it against the information that was posted. Aside from being overjoyed with how they have seemingly knocked one out of the ballpark with the idea of this MP, I felt like they were overly cautious with how they presented this announcement. I suppose that I can't blame them, though. If they didn't mention 20 times that it was entirely optional, I'm 100% positive that the forums there would explode with rage (I'm willing to bet they did to a small degree, anyways). My main concern now is that the Co-Op mode is just as challenging and strategically driven as the single player is on Insanity (hopefully way tougher, since there's four human players).

I know we're less than 5 months out still, and there's tons of information left to be announced regarding more alternative modes and platforms, but I'm extremely excited by everything mentioned in this announcement and faith in BioWare remains as strong as ever.

Get those X-Squad requests in now! :cool:

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tl;dr version: X overwhelmingly supports BioWare decision.. Go figure.
 
[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']
I know we're less than 5 months out still, and there's tons of information left to be announced regarding more alternative modes and platforms, but I'm extremely excited by everything mentioned in this announcement and faith in BioWare remains as strong as ever.[/QUOTE]

Ditto :bouncy:
 
I went down to Gamestop today and they ARE still taking pre-orders for the CE, so I went ahead and did it. So if they are cutting it off soon like my friend said, they haven't quite done it yet.
 
[quote name='goodbyetonight']I went down to Gamestop today and they ARE still taking pre-orders for the CE, so I went ahead and did it. So if they are cutting it off soon like my friend said, they haven't quite done it yet.[/QUOTE]

My GS is taking preorders still, too. I like amazon, generally speaking, but I'm gonna need my N7 edition in my grubby little hands ASAP on 3/6/12 so I'm going with Gamestop. Depending on the retailer exclusives, I might be preordering this from multiple places. :0/
 
Same for my GS. I went in and asked tonight, since I was already next door.

P.S. is it bad that the guy working there asked "Why? Are you wanting another copy of it? You're insane." when I brought the question up?
 
For those of us without THAT much free time, lets get Team CAG going. I'm looking more like between 7 and 11 cst during the week. Trying to think what race I'd want to play....
 
Yeah, I'd be up for it as well. If it has an effect on my campaign, I would much rather play with good people, lol.
 
[quote name='chubbyninja1319']My GS is taking preorders still, too. I like amazon, generally speaking, but I'm gonna need my N7 edition in my grubby little hands ASAP on 3/6/12 so I'm going with Gamestop. Depending on the retailer exclusives, I might be preordering this from multiple places. :0/[/QUOTE]I know I pre-ordered my ME2 CE from Gamestop and Amazon and ended up trading the GS copy to another CAG. Only for the bonuses, oddly enough.

I think the bonuses work for any version and aren't tied to the CE or the regular version. Assuming it works like the preorders for ME2, that is.

[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']Same for my GS. I went in and asked tonight, since I was already next door.

P.S. is it bad that the guy working there asked "Why? Are you wanting another copy of it? You're insane." when I brought the question up?[/QUOTE]They know your money is good, so why should they care? :lol:
 
Multiplayer details listed in the article linked from above, for those too ballin' to be clicking mice:

[quote name=' OXM Mass Effect 3 MP Details']
  • Mass Effect 3 multiplayer has been planned since the original Mass Effect.

  • Mass Effect 3 represents the first time that Casey Hudson had felt comfortable implementing multiplayer into the series.

  • The multiplayer experience boils down to a four player co-op survival style mode that lets you fight increasingly difficult waves of Cerberus foes.

  • The enemies you’ll encounter can range from your most basic foot soldier to “assassin-like Phantoms and even the hulking metal titan-esque Atlas mechs”.

  • Each “stage” allows you to go up against eleven waves that must be finished in order to complete that section. The mode reminds quite a few of Gears of War’s horde mode, allowing you to net experience points regardless if you finish the wave alive or not.
  • The “Galaxy at War” mode gives you a reward system, character-progression suite, and a “stake in the larger battle that’s taking place in your single-player campaign.

  • How you perform in the multiplayer missions has a result on your success in the main storyline as Shepard, but only if you want it to.

  • Everything you do in the singleplayer campaign will earn you in-game currency called “War Assets”. War Assets allow you to purchase things such as allies, friendly fleets, or even a facility such as a radar station.

  • Successfully completing various side-missions, larger plot points, and destroying your enemies will net you the War Assets needed to purchase the upgrades.

  • “The more you play and build up your multiplayer characters to survive increasingly tough odds, the more power and influence your single-player Shepard will wield by the time the endgame comes based on the amount of War Assets earned.”

  • If you’re one of those gamers that loves to complete every piece of a game, then you’re in luck. By doing enough in the singleplayer campaign, you will be able to earn enough War Assets, you won’t have to participate in the “galactic war”.

  • While you’re going through a variety of locations in singleplayer, you’ll see first-hand how the war has hit different colonies. Galaxy at War mode follows suit, allowing your individual character and team to take up arms to defend these various locations. Your squad is under the command of the Alliance Navy officer Admiral Hackett, making his return from each game. Fighting in each various area will and successfully defending it will “win for interstellar freedom”.

  • As you complete each area or defend newly freed areas, your progress will be detailed on a color-coded map that you’ll be able to view while you’re in the game or a few other platforms. iOS devices, Facebook, and more will allow these to be viewable and have their own “unique hooks” into the Galaxy at War mode.

  • In the build described in the magazine article, four character classes were mentioned: Soldier, Infiltrator, Engineer, and Sentinel. The final version of the game has been confirmed to have more classes than this to initially choose from, as well as unlockables.

  • Each class that you select from will allow you to select from a variety of races. Ranging from the likes of a Krogan to a Drell, you’ll have a good bit of variety to choose from. Yes, a Drell, the same race as Thane from Mass Effect 2 (we’re excited).

  • As you can probably figure, each class will allow you to possess “specific abilities” as well as the ability to upgrade a few. Krogan soldiers were described as being able to use a charge attack to known down enemies, along with Soldiers being able to use the Omni-blade for a few rather lethal attacks. For those wondering, you’ll also be able to choose your gender when choosing any class.

  • There’s a set level cap of 20.

  • While you can stockpile characters, the experience you earn only records for that character’s specific class. Once you level up, you’ll be able to assign those earned points to different abilities.

  • Before heading into action, you can select your weapon & biotic-powers from the available options.

  • Armor and weaponry can be upgraded to your individual tastes.

  • Points can and will be earned for assists, kills, and other similar actions during multiplayer.

  • When an ally goes down, you’ll have a limited amount of time to revive them. The article mentioned “spamming the A button” while down to increase the amount of time before bleeding out.

  • Along with killing your enemies, mission objectives will be sprinkled here and there. Retrieving data packets around the map and protecting an ally while they hack a series of terminals were a few of the described mission objectives.
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There's obviously a few typos here and there, but from the sounds of it...wow.

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Oh, and :nottalking: at getting snubbed from Team CAG.
 
Horde Mode in Mass Effect as a Quarian? ...The GoW veteran in me has to try it if only to see what they got right versus what they got horribly wrong. Should be interesting.
 
[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']I will now start accepting offers for spots in my online squad. Place your bids now, ladies and gentlemen!

:cool:[/QUOTE]

[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']
Get those X-Squad requests in now! :cool:
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[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']

Oh, and :nottalking: at getting snubbed from Team CAG.[/QUOTE]

I think you already well represented yourself. LOL. I'm thinking Team CAG as more of the "everyman" team. The 9-5'ers (more like 8-6 for me really....) who will probably be happy with beating the game twice....three times would be considered extreme.

Besides, I like you X, but I really don't get on board with the megalomania aspect of trying to be accepted into the squad. Too much work. ;) I might even try it out before completing my first playthrough out of sheer curiousity. The horror!

Heck, I'm waiting until lunch to be able to watch the video that Arikado posted, while I'm sure X is about 3 pages deep into analysis right now.
 
[quote name='Lord_Kefka']I think you already well represented yourself. LOL. I'm thinking Team CAG as more of the "everyman" team. The 9-5'ers (more like 8-6 for me really....) who will probably be happy with beating the game twice....three times would be considered extreme.

Besides, I like you X, but I really don't get on board with the megalomania aspect of trying to be accepted into the squad. Too much work. ;) I might even try it out before completing my first playthrough out of sheer curiousity. The horror!

Heck, I'm waiting until lunch to be able to watch the video that Arikado posted, while I'm sure X is about 3 pages deep into analysis right now.[/QUOTE]
:lol:

Haha, I'm just giving you shit - no worries. I'm not quite conceited enough to think that people are dying to play with me, but I did want to get people talking about playing together in squads once the game comes out. Whether people want to pair up based on skill level, time played, time available, geographic location, personality, or whatever - it all sounds cool to me. I'm just glad that a Mass Effect game can finally provide that sort of group social interaction.

While I do have a core group of people I'm already messaging back and forth going over stuff like "Okay, so I'm going to be _____ race and _____ class", I'm certainly never going to turn down anyone's request/offer to play because they haven't filled out all the necessary paperwork or "earned" the right to be on my team ;)

I actually think it would be cool talking to and playing with people from this thread - some of which have had huge discussions/arguments with me, some who disagree with everything I think and say, some who like to pretend femShep is a legit character, some who think Tali isn't a good enough LI, and some who've been posting in Mass Effect threads for years now. We all like the same game, and I think it would be interesting for both sides of the equation to be able to put a personality and voice behind these same names you see every time you check back in to one of these threads (especially some of the people that like to imagine me as EDI, only with a human male voice chip installed into my core :lol:).

At the very least, one could probably learn a few cool tips/strategies from me and watch as I max out the War Assets count for their single player campaign - a fair deal for putting up with me for a few hours :cool:

Though it's still less than five months out, I'm excited about what this mode can offer people like us - forums full of ME fans that would otherwise only be able to enjoy the game on an individual basis and talk about it in private chats or here on message boards. I'm definitely down for sending/accepting friend requests to/from people in here who are going to want to play the MP mode after the game hits.
 
It is intriguing that the primary form of Mass Effect-based social interaction will no longer be insulting each other's love interests. :lol:
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']It is intriguing that the primary form of Mass Effect-based social interaction will no longer be insulting each other's love interests. :lol:[/QUOTE]Oh, I'm sure that will continue. ;)

Just hidden in between MP commentary, of course.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']It is intriguing that the primary form of Mass Effect-based social interaction will no longer be insulting each other's love interests. :lol:[/QUOTE]
Coming from a Jack lover :roll:

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:cool:
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']Here's a quarter. Go buy your girlfriend a face. :cool:[/QUOTE]
Have you seen a bigger smile on Shepard's face than the moment he sees Tali unmasked? There's definitely one hella amazing face under there.

Keep your quarter, you'll need it to buy Jack some basic clothing :cool:
 
EA posted a press release about Multiplayer. Link. I think the only new info is
Players will have the option of playing as one of six classes and from six different races: Human, Krogan, Asari, Drell, Salarian and Turian.
Click to expand...

What? No Quarians? Bioware, I am disappointed.
 
[quote name='Salamando3000']EA posted a press release about Multiplayer. Link. I think the only new info is...

What? No Quarians? Bioware, I am disappointed.[/QUOTE]NO GETH!? :cold:

Hear that? That's the sound of my heart breaking :cry:
 
[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']Have you seen a bigger smile on Shepard's face than the moment he sees Tali unmasked? There's definitely one hella amazing face under there.

Keep your quarter, you'll need it to buy Jack some basic clothing :cool:[/QUOTE]

You guys make me laugh.
 
Great, just what I want as a solo player, a multiplayer mode added to an action RPG.

At least it looks like you can completely skip the stupid multiplayer aspect if you want. Unless I read that wrong.

Edit...after reading that post with the MP info again, thinking I might actually skip this game entirely. The whole mp equals having a bigger stake in the solo endgame war makes it seem like if you don't play multiplayer you're kinds shorted out of single player content. Which is completely offputting to me as a sole solo player.

I don't want to be forced to play online or miss out on content.
 
[quote name='praxus07']Edit...after reading that post with the MP info again, thinking I might actually skip this game entirely. The whole mp equals having a bigger stake in the solo endgame war makes it seem like if you don't play multiplayer you're kinds shorted out of single player content. Which is completely offputting to me as a sole solo player.

I don't want to be forced to play online or miss out on content.[/QUOTE]
Actually, it kind of sounds like the opposite of that. If you play online, you get more leeway in the campaign to skip optional missions or not play optimally and still get the best ending. If you skip the online, then you will need to do everything possible in the campaign to get the same amount of Galactic Juice or whatever.


[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']Have you seen a bigger smile on Shepard's face than the moment he sees Tali unmasked? There's definitely one hella amazing face under there.[/QUOTE]
I guess we'll see, huh? I feel pretty good about having an LI who's hot right now, instead of one who theoretically might be hot on some future date. :cool:
 
Just a heads up for those of you who procrastinate. I went to preorder my CE yesterday and was told by the clerk that they got an email about stopping soon.
 
Not doing the Geth or the Quarians on the MP side of things does sound like a bit of a mis-step.

[quote name='Ryuukishi']I guess we'll see, huh? I feel pretty good about having an LI who's hot right now, instead of one who theoretically might be hot on some future date. :cool:[/QUOTE]I think you and X need to get a room to hash this all out. ;)
 
[quote name='shrike4242']Not doing the Geth or the Quarians on the MP side of things does sound like a bit of a mis-step.[/QUOTE]

I can understand why they're not playable for story reasons, though. Nobody trusts the Geth, and Quarians aren't that trusted in the eyes of many, either. Plus, their resources are focused on the Geth and taking back their homeworld.
 
[quote name='Arikado']I can understand why they're not playable for story reasons, though. Nobody trusts the Geth, and Quarians aren't that trusted in the eyes of many, either. Plus, their resources are focused on the Geth and taking back their homeworld.[/QUOTE]I suppose with that figured into the mix, that does make sense.

Plus, the Salarians, the humans, the Asari and the Turians are all part of the Council, so that makes sense. I guess the Drell and Krogans are there for their obvious benefits as well.

No luck in expecting the Vorcha, the Batarians or the Hanar either. ;)
 
It's actually kind of cool that they're including choices based on what makes sense in the universe, rather than just throwing everything in.

I semi-expect geth and quarian models to appear in DLC though.
 
Yeah sorry my source hadn't gotten back to me until last night but yeah the CE is still available. Don't delay though as I would believe it will be cut off sometime before the end of the year.

And I would like to be on Team CAG also.

On the races thing, having 6/13 major ones isn't bad. Who knows, they might try to add the other 6 as DLC.
 
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[quote name='xtreme_Zr2']I'm calling dibs on the Krogan..the rest of you can play as Tali all you want! :cool:[/QUOTE]*Would gladly step aside for that deal*

[quote name='chubbyninja1319']You guys make me laugh.[/QUOTE]We're here to please :)

[quote name='praxus07']Great, just what I want as a solo player, a multiplayer mode added to an action RPG.

At least it looks like you can completely skip the stupid multiplayer aspect if you want. Unless I read that wrong.

Edit...after reading that post with the MP info again, thinking I might actually skip this game entirely. The whole mp equals having a bigger stake in the solo endgame war makes it seem like if you don't play multiplayer you're kinds shorted out of single player content. Which is completely offputting to me as a sole solo player.

I don't want to be forced to play online or miss out on content.[/QUOTE]You need to re-read it again, this time without looking for reasons to convince yourself to skip out on this game.

They're not even using resources (people) from the actual Mass Effect team to work on multiplayer, and they've explicitly stated that the entire "Galaxy at War" system is optional. Playing the multiplayer is akin to downloading Mass Effect: Genesis to bypass playing Mass Effect 1; it's just an alternative way to get to a similar result.

Not liking the multiplayer idea that they've implemented is a terrible (and somewhat lazy) excuse to pass on ME3.

[quote name='Ryuukishi']I guess we'll see, huh? I feel pretty good about having an LI who's hot right now, instead of one who theoretically might be hot on some future date. :cool:[/QUOTE]Whereas I feel good about a love interest who actually leaves some details to the imagination, adding a little bit of mystery and anticipation to the equation :cool:

[quote name='shrike4242']Not doing the Geth or the Quarians on the MP side of things does sound like a bit of a mis-step.[/QUOTE]Honestly, it makes a ton of sense to leave them out (explained below).

[quote name='shrike4242']I think you and X need to get a room to hash this all out. ;)[/QUOTE]I'm sure if you walked in on said room you'd witness a chair being thrown and hear Ryuu saying "I'll smear the wall with you, bitch!" and then you'd have to make a very difficult decision.

[quote name='Arikado']I can understand why they're not playable for story reasons, though. Nobody trusts the Geth, and Quarians aren't that trusted in the eyes of many, either. Plus, their resources are focused on the Geth and taking back their homeworld.[/QUOTE]That, and the idea of Quarians as front-line fighters in this type of sitation seems like it would be odd, especially for gameplay purposes. I doubt I'd be fine with putting in a solid amount of time as a Quarian knowing that any shot may have the potential of rupturing my suit and killing me.

The Geth will definitely be in the game, but I can also see why they were skipped, too. Seeing as how there's only been one true Geth that has paired up with Shepard so far, I can't see why the Alliance would be head over heels about wanting to add them to their spec-ops like squad for MP.

[quote name='shrike4242']Plus, the Salarians, the humans, the Asari and the Turians are all part of the Council, so that makes sense. I guess the Drell and Krogans are there for their obvious benefits as well.[/QUOTE]If there was an option to choose Batarian, I'd personally team kill anyone who ever chose that race in my squad. Xenophobia for the win :cool:

[quote name='Ryuukishi']It's actually kind of cool that they're including choices based on what makes sense in the universe, rather than just throwing everything in.

I semi-expect geth and quarian models to appear in DLC though.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't hold my breath for that potential addition, but I wouldn't hate it either.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']It's actually kind of cool that they're including choices based on what makes sense in the universe, rather than just throwing everything in.

I semi-expect geth and quarian models to appear in DLC though.[/QUOTE]

Think it would've been cooler if races could be unlocked based off of my choices in singleplayer. From what I understand of the Galaxy at War multiplayer, it's mostly about forces in your coalition defending supplies and stuff from Reapers. If I manage to bring Geth/Quarians/Rachni/Whatever into my coalition, why not represent that in multiplayer?
 
[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']I'm sure if you walked in on said room you'd witness a chair being thrown and hear Ryuu saying "I'll smear the wall with you, bitch!" and then you'd have to make a very difficult decision.[/QUOTE]
:applause:
 
[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']I'm sure if you walked in on said room you'd witness a chair being thrown and hear Ryuu saying "I'll smear the wall with you, bitch!" and then you'd have to make a very difficult decision.[/QUOTE]Shooting you both is a very difficult decision? ;)
 
[quote name='shrike4242']Shooting you both is a very difficult decision? ;)[/QUOTE]
Ryuukishi dead | -5 Galactic Readiness

Xecutioner dead | Critical Mission Failure
 
[quote name='shrike4242']Shooting you both is a very difficult decision? ;)[/QUOTE]You must not have put too much time into the Vanguard, if you think pulling a gun on someone in close quarters like that is a good idea ;)
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']Ryuukishi dead | -5 Galactic Readiness

Xecutioner dead | Critical Mission Failure[/QUOTE]I think you had that wrong.

Xecutioner dead | Mission Success for FemShep

;)

[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']You must not have put too much time into the Vanguard, if you think pulling a gun on someone in close quarters like that is a good idea ;)[/QUOTE]Depends on the gun. M-920 Cain, anyone? :D
 
[quote name='shrike4242']Depends on the gun. M-920 Cain, anyone? :D[/QUOTE]That strategy sounds fine if you could convince yourself that you'd actually have the estimated five seconds to charge and fire the Cain after pointing it at the biggest badass in the galaxy.

Heavy risk...

:cool:
 
[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']That strategy sounds fine if you could convince yourself that you'd actually have the estimated five seconds to charge and fire the Cain after pointing it at the biggest badass in the galaxy.

Heavy risk...

:cool:[/QUOTE]It would already be charged before aiming. That's what you do with the biggest badass in the galaxy.

:cool:
 
[quote name='Anexanhume']Resigned disappointment: It seems my pleas for a dedicated heavy weapons Elcor have fallen on deaf ears.[/QUOTE]

Haha! This thread is getting fun.
 
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