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Yup. And this was after I lost a game in OT to a guy who scored two goals with that drag wrister crap and the game-winner on a wrap, which he had been trying most of the game. Really shitty way to lose, especially as I had been on a power play for the last three minutes of regulation and into OT.

 
Great time to be playing HUT right now. Happy Hour 2X coins. 1,800 coins a game feels like it adds up way quicker, haha. I might make a whole secondary team of solid "no boost" players that way if the duration cards ever totally dry up, I'll still have a reasonable team to play with.

The funny thing I learned is making new lineups and naming them basicallly allows you to have multiple team names, since your lineup name is what shows up during the matchup screen. Go nuts, boys, lol :lol:

 
So, I just lost a HUT game 1-0 on a goal where the guy got a penalty on the same play. When the next faceoff dropped at center ice, he was shorthanded, and I had a 2:00 powerplay....and his goal counted... Am I missing something?

 
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I'll allow it....but seriously, lol. It made me question if I knew the rules or not. I was so dumbfounded, I didn't yell "Xbox, record that". But I did take a video of the boxscore at the end of the game, which shows a goal scored and a penalty taken by the same team with the exact same amount of time on the clock.

I'm guessing it literally happened simultaneously and the game just didn't know how to wave it off. Like it counted it and processed the penalty at the same time.

 
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The game does weird stuff on delayed penalties. I'll post a link when I get home, but I had one yesterday where I scored on a delayed penalty. But it was reviewed if it was kicked in. Then the guy paused it, and it showed that it counted. When we left the pause screen, the score didn't update, but it showed the scoring line. Also, it showed I had a 2 minute power play, but both teams clearly had 5 players on the ice. When the puck dropped for the face off, the score updated, but it still said I was on the PP. I took a penalty, and then it did correct itself by saying I was on a 2 minute PK rather than 4 on 4.

Also had a stupid moment when a guy got stuck on the half boards and kept humping the boards until I got a whistle. There's actually a crap load of stupid stuff I have recorded that I need to splice together when I get a chance.
 
moojuice said:
The game does weird stuff on delayed penalties. I'll post a link when I get home, but I had one yesterday where I scored on a delayed penalty. But it was reviewed if it was kicked in. Then the guy paused it, and it showed that it counted. When we left the pause screen, the score didn't update, but it showed the scoring line. Also, it showed I had a 2 minute power play, but both teams clearly had 5 players on the ice. When the puck dropped for the face off, the score updated, but it still said I was on the PP. I took a penalty, and then it did correct itself by saying I was on a 2 minute PK rather than 4 on 4.

Also had a stupid moment when a guy got stuck on the half boards and kept humping the boards until I got a whistle. There's actually a crap load of stupid stuff I have recorded that I need to splice together when I get a chance.
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Yeah, I've seen them do the "both teams were given minor penalties" thing all the time when when there's no penalty. You'd think they'd notice some of this stuff during testing as that and your getting stuck in the boards example is pretty common.

This wasn't even a delayed penalty though. The guy had the puck the entire time, then took a shot, and Doc said "that's going to be a slashing penalty". But the goal horn also sounded. At first, I thought it was just more dumb commentary, but then I did have a powerplay. In a smarter game, maybe I could assume there was some type of post whistle activity that drew a penalty. But we both know that's not what's happening, lol.

 
On the positive side, affer that game, I found 2 "buy now" 15 game duration cards for 2,300 coins and 3,000 coins. I needed 5 points in my last 4 games to stay in Division 2. So, I made a 3rd lineup (named TwistyNippers) with a mix of boosted players and the new high-rated guys I've bought for players I didn't have boosted. In all, I had 7 players boosted (including a 97 Holtby), and my 4th line center was an 89 OVR, lol.

I then reeled off a shootout loss and two straight shutout wins. Ironically, Holtby took the shootout loss and 89 OVR Mike Smith got the shutouts. I'm still not sold on boosting the goalie. Sometimes I feel like they just play how they play regardless of stats. Like you mentioned with that low-rated goalie, Alan...sometimes rating doesn't seem to even matter.

 
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On the positive side, affer that game, I found 2 "buy now" 15 game duration cards for 2,300 coins and 3,000 coins. I needed 5 points in my last 4 games to stay in Division 2. So, I made a 3rd lineup (named TwistyNippers) with a mix of boosted players and the new high-rated guys I've bought for players I didn't have boosted. In all, I had 7 players boosted (including a 97 Holtby), and my 4th line center was an 89 OVR, lol.

I then reeled off a shootout loss and two straight shutout wins. Ironically, Holtby took the shootout loss and 89 OVR Mike Smith got the shutouts. I'm still not sold on boosting the goalie. Sometimes I feel like they just play how they play regardless of stats. Like you mentioned with that low-rated goalie, Alan...sometimes rating doesn't seem to even matter.
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Yeah, I feel like there's sometimes a "this guy is going to have a bad night" factor behind the scenes. I even had one where I played another guy and we both had Howard in goal, not boosted. His Howard was make desperation saves on my crossers, sometimes even unnecessarily so, while mine just made regular saves on similar crossers.
 
Also, found out its occasionally good to look for contracts via BIN. It was good timing, but I basically bought 10 Gold contracts from a guy as soon as he was putting them up for 150 BIN. I checked 200 also, and it seemed to have a steady stream of listings that were being bought up quick.
 
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Yeah...I'll never understand why people enjoy randomness in video games...sports games especially. Who starts a game and goes "Hehe...I wonder if I'll get unfairly fucked in the ass in this game! #soexcited".

And yeah, that's what I always do for contracts (well, for almost all my cards, really). I've been able to get the gold 13 game contracts for 100 coins fairly often. On top of that, I'll seek out the...super gold?...platinum? contracts that give 28 games. I've been able to get them for 250 coins. The prices have gone up a bit during happy hour since it basically cut the strength of the currency in half. But I still grabbed a bunch of 28 game contracts for 300 coins each.

It still worries me that auction house is the best way to acquire things. Once people stop buying packs and cards become scarce, everything is going to grind to a halt. Unless EA has a plan to just release cards into the wild or give out free packs or something, it seems inevitable. This happy hour period was a great way to get people playing though. It made some of those high value cards much easier to obtain too.

I thought about making a run at a Rinne and a Weber to complete my Preds collection, but I really didn't want to dump all of my resources into grinding for them when the reward would probably be shit anyway. Instead, I was able to buy a bunch of 88-89 OVR players to round out my non-boosted lineup. In the past 2 days, I've bought Jeff Carter, Krecji, M. Koivu, Vlasic, Neal, Vanek, Pominville, Voracek, Wheeler, Filppula, Turris, Giordano, Moulson, Cammalleri, and Voynov.

No 50,000+ coin player that a reward pack might yield, but not bad for a couple days of playing. The shittiest thing is you pulling that Pietrangelo and not being able to sell him. He routinely gets 60,000-70,000 on auction.

 
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How do you search for those 88-89 OVR players? It's such a hassle as compared with Madden, where you can search by a ratings range.

 
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How do you search for those 88-89 OVR players? It's such a hassle as compared with Madden, where you can search by a ratings range.
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I usually just do a general search for the position I want (sometimes even the player type if I want a specific one). Then, I put "NHL" and "Gold" filters on it just to help reduce the crap I don't want to see. Then, I search and just look through the auctions until I see a player that looks appealing.

Then, I go back to search and add his team/player type to my filter so I'll mostly only see auctions for that guy. Sometimes, I'll even put a "buy now" maximum filter on if I see a decent price to make sure I know what the lowest available price is.

I have missed out on a few guys by being this thorough though. I saw an Eric Staal for like 3,950 yesterday, but by the time I went back to buy him, he was gone. I did score Vlasic for only 1,700 coins though. Once you start to get a sense for what players are worth, obviously, you figure out when to jump on them. This would also be a good way to flip players for profit. But like Alan mentioned, timing has a lot to do with it too.

For example, I was on an hour ago and grabbed a 15 game duration card for a 1,400 coin Buy Now. No idea why the guy priced it that low (I guess maybe he wanted insta-coins...but he probably could have gotten at least 800-1,000 more just as quickly), but I'm not complaining. :)

 
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I usually just do a general search for the position I want (sometimes even the player type if I want a specific one). Then, I put "NHL" and "Gold" filters on it just to help reduce the crap I don't want to see. Then, I search and just look through the auctions until I see a player that looks appealing.

Then, I go back to search and add his team/player type to my filter so I'll mostly only see auctions for that guy. Sometimes, I'll even put a "buy now" maximum filter on if I see a decent price to make sure I know what the lowest available price is.

I have missed out on a few guys by being this thorough though. I saw an Eric Staal for like 3,950 yesterday, but by the time I went back to buy him, he was gone. I did score Vlasic for only 1,700 coins though. Once you start to get a sense for what players are worth, obviously, you figure out when to jump on them. This would also be a good way to flip players for profit. But like Alan mentioned, timing has a lot to do with it too.

For example, I was on an hour ago and grabbed a 15 game duration card for a 1,400 coin Buy Now. No idea why the guy priced it that low (I guess maybe he wanted insta-coins...but he probably could have gotten at least 800-1,000 more just as quickly), but I'm not complaining. :)
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Pretty much exactly what I do.

I do use this site as a quick reference though; its not an exact science, as I think its a bit low, but it still give a ballpark of whats a "good" price. http://www.huthq.com/15/collections/nhl/

As for going back to look at players, I use the "Watch Item" feature a lot, just to make it a bit easier/quicker to find again.

Speaking of quick...either from the packs I got from working with Rob, or more likely one of the free packs from the first few times I played the game, I had Jonathan Mother fuck ing Quick available. I don't know how I missed it. I guess I was just always alternating between Howard and Lehner, and never bother to look at goalies in my collection. It's untradeable, and he's worth +150K from what I've seen. So there's that, and Pietrangelo. Though I'll admit, after playing Pietrangelo, he is good, and I would have kept him even if he was sellable. We'll see how Quick plays.

For the Free Agent question, I haven't seen anyone worth while to keep

 
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Annnnd I'm downloading an Xbox 360 update, lol. Be there in a minute.

EDIT - Everybody's on Xbox One. I don't know what to do! I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO!!!!!

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This wasn't even a delayed penalty though. The guy had the puck the entire time, then took a shot, and Doc said "that's going to be a slashing penalty". But the goal horn also sounded. At first, I thought it was just more dumb commentary, but then I did have a powerplay. In a smarter game, maybe I could assume there was some type of post whistle activity that drew a penalty. But we both know that's not what's happening, lol.
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It sounds like the guy or his AI might have high sticked right after he shot. I've seen it happen, and I know that can actually happen or at least still count as a goal assuming the penalty didn't directly result in the goal. Was it a clean shot in or did it bounce or trickle around? If it's the latter it would be more reasonable/acceptable.

On another note... I finally tried position lock. Damn there's a huge difference in AI! Unfortunately the game I did it was laggy as all hell, so it was really making it tough to play. I pretty much never touched the puck except going into the corners on offense and in the defensive zone. Despite the lag I still won after the kid intercepted a one-timer attempt and passed it right into his net. I was laughing my ass off because this kid was just talking shit the whole time and his only goal was a short side wrister.
 
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On another note... I finally tried position lock. Damn there's a huge difference in AI! Unfortunately the game I did it was laggy as all hell, so it was really making it tough to play. I pretty much never touched the puck except going into the corners on offense and in the defensive zone. Despite the lag I still won after the kid intercepted a one-timer attempt and passed it right into his net. I was laughing my ass off because this kid was just talking shit the whole time and his only goal was a short side wrister.
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Yup, it's pretty incredible. It basically makes the game play like EA likes to think it plays all the time. All of a sudden the AI knows where they're supposed to be, knows what they're supposed to be doing, sees breakout passes, moves without the puck to get open, etc. They'll still screw up and miss some obvious opportunities, but it legitimately feels like you're playing WITH them. Instead of frantically racing around the ice and switching from player to player to make up for their stupidity.

The biggest thing I do to make sure they don't get exploited is backcheck like a fiend. But knowing how most people play (ie. deke toward the middle), I'll just burn down the ice in a straight line toward the slot, and by the time they make their move, I'm usually caught up and plow into them with just a left stick hit.

I've had people bitch me out for being "afraid to play as a full team". But hey, I like my hockey game to revolve around defense, passing, and moving without the puck. Why is that any less valid than somebody wanting their hockey game to revolve around "sweet dekes" and "sick snipes"? Some people have even messaged me telling me they know that how they play is stupid, but "everybody else does it too", so they had to start playing that way. Screw that crap, man.

I've beaten several teams where they had like 8 minutes more time on attack than me because they'd just keep circling on the outside waiting for the bullshit to open up. And I just made sure it never does. Ultimately, I won because their defense cracked before mine did. It's not run and gun NBA Jam retard hockey anymore. And it's beautiful.

 
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Woooo...promoted to Division 1. After the coin bonus, I had close to 9,000...and happened to catch a huge drop of 15 game duration cards (I saw at least 8 cards at 3,000 coins or less). I had enough to buy three of them.

This system of holding my boosted guys out of my lineup until I absolutely need them seems to be working well. I'm earning coins without using them, so I'm really increasing my total number of boosted players now. I'm up to 10 guys 95 or above, haha. Superherovillain dickbag team, here I come.

Once I have my entire team boosted, I'll record a video and send it to EA with a graphic that says "See what you've done, EA???" :lol:

 
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Ugh. The last two games, and maybe it coincides with trying the playoffs, my team has been as braindead as if I wasn't using center lock.

 
Yup. It's scary when you think somebody at EA Vancouver looked at it and said "Yeah...that's probably fine. Just leave it."

 
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Edit: Nevermind, posted some vids but links are broken, cant figure out how to delete this post

 
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Oh, Division 1... Just lost 2-0 to a guy who had Ovechkin, Datsyuk, Giroux, P. Kane, Kessel, Kopitar, Getzlaf, Bergeron, Lucic, Kronwall, Letang, McDonagh, Pietrangelo, Shattenkirk, E. Staal, Van Riemsdyk, and Quick as his goalie. And 446 hours played. I was running my non-boosted lineup though. So, 2-0 doesn't really seem that bad considering all that.

I should have known. He had a Canadiens logo. I just should have known. Never play those Frenchies. French-Canadian hockey fans are truly some of the worst people on the planet. If it's MTL, just back out. I really need to stick to that.

I congratulated him on buying a win in a fake hockey game and he told me "you jalous". Oh, Canada...go fuck yourself.

 
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Grabbed Landeskog and Luongo today for 7,000 coins combined. Both are instantly my best players at their respective positions. Had my eyes on different goalies, but Luongo was better priced.

 
theHunter: Primal is now out. $19.99 on Steam. There's also a 4-pack for $59.99. I'll most likely be checking to see what the Russian price is...either for the single or the 4-pack if anybody else is interested. It's listed as having multiplayer and co-op. So, I'm pretty sure just trying to hunt and survive together is a big part of the game.

Here's a trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAng8ImRZ4Y

And a gameplay video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJffJUN5C_Q

 
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So, this just happened to me in a 0-0 game with 0:12 left in the 3rd period. Couldn't even let me get to OT to at least get one point out of it. Just...why, EA? Why???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_olTnP0khns

 
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theHunter: Primal is now out. $19.99 on Steam. There's also a 4-pack for $59.99. I'll most likely be checking to see what the Russian price is...either for the single or the 4-pack if anybody else is interested. It's listed as having multiplayer and co-op. So, I'm pretty sure just trying to hunt and survive together is a big part of the game.

Here's a trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAng8ImRZ4Y

And a gameplay video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJffJUN5C_Q
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I'm intruged by Primal...but it just seems too early in early access right now from what I've seen...something like just three types of dinosaurs, minimal tools/weapons, etc. Granted, what I've read could be wrong, so Im not opposed if it has some fleshed out features.

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So, this just happened to me in a 0-0 game with 0:12 left in the 3rd period. Couldn't even let me get to OT to at least get one point out of it. Just...why, EA? Why???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_olTnP0khns
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Because "EA Sports, it's in the game"

 
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Now I just lost 1-0 to a guy who had Kurri, Lidstrom, and Sakic on his team...among other non-retired superstars, of course. His goalie was Carey Price, who just absolutely stood on his damn head stopping some incredibly well set up scoring chances. Let me out of Division 1. Please. I take it back. I just want to go home. I promise I won't tell anybody. Please...

EDIT - Ha, it's like EA heard me. I needed 4 points in my last 2 games to stay in Division 1. 1-1 tie in the 3rd period, and I lose connection to EA servers. Immediately checked my PC to see if my connection went down. Nope. Just another good EA screwjob. Classic.

 
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I'm intruged by Primal...but it just seems too early in early access right now from what I've seen...something like just three types of dinosaurs, minimal tools/weapons, etc. Granted, what I've read could be wrong, so Im not opposed if it has some fleshed out features.
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I think you're mostly right. There are only three dinosaurs for now (T-Rex, Triceratops and Utahraptors). According to the description, they are adding two more soon, supposedly Brachiosauruses and Pterodactyls...and possibly other things by the time it goes to full release.

As for weapons and gear, that part seems reasonably fleshed out as I've already seen hunting bows, rifles, shotguns, various attachments, and different kinds of clothing to outfit yourself with.

It seems that the game does have some kind of story to it too. It talks about being sent to this place to control the dinosaur population and having your prison sentence erased if you succeed. And there are logs and things that you can find from previous hunters. I mean, yeah, it's early access. But it's not an unknown indie developer. These are the Just Cause guys.

I could understand waiting though. Since there's no discount at all right now, I might wait for the Christmas sale, just to see if something crazy happens and it gets a quick discount. Having played the main theHunter game, I'm at least pretty confident the gameplay is going to be solid.

 
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Now I just lost 1-0 to a guy who had Kurri, Lidstrom, and Sakic on his team...among other non-retired superstars, of course. His goalie was Carey Price, who just absolutely stood on his damn head stopping some incredibly well set up scoring chances. Let me out of Division 1. Please. I take it back. I just want to go home. I promise I won't tell anybody. Please...

EDIT - Ha, it's like EA heard me. I needed 4 points in my last 2 games to stay in Division 1. 1-1 tie in the 3rd period, and I lose connection to EA servers. Immediately checked my PC to see if my connection went down. Nope. Just another good EA screwjob. Classic.
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This has been me since winning Division 1. I pretty much just make 9 points now and that's it. When I get demoted I usually walk through Div. 2 without too much trouble. Go to Div. 1 and I get EA'd non-stop. I played against a guy today that had a bunch of legends. Lost 3-4 his first goal was a short-side wrister, but he was open so that was my own fault. His other 3 were cross crease one-timers to guys who were literally being abused by my AI D-Men and seemed to magically go through my stick in the passing lane. The last cross crease I was stick lifting the eventual target knowing that he was going to go to him. What do you know, he did and he never even had his stick off the ice in the replay.
 
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This has been me since winning Division 1. I pretty much just make 9 points now and that's it. When I get demoted I usually walk through Div. 2 without too much trouble. Go to Div. 1 and I get EA'd non-stop. I played against a guy today that had a bunch of legends. Lost 3-4 his first goal was a short-side wrister, but he was open so that was my own fault. His other 3 were cross crease one-timers to guys who were literally being abused by my AI D-Men and seemed to magically go through my stick in the passing lane. The last cross crease I was stick lifting the eventual target knowing that he was going to go to him. What do you know, he did and he never even had his stick off the ice in the replay.
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Is it just me or does it seem like the worst cross crease offenders just throw the passes across as hard as they can based on the logic that their guy will either one time it perfectly...or the pass will be so hard, it will bounce around and they'll get a garbage recovery anyway. And they just force it no matter who is there or what the situation is. And the pathetic thing is that if they do it enough, eventually, it's going to work.

I know for me, I'll only attempt a crosser if the situation calls for it and I have an odd man rush or I'm coming from behind the net. And I pass it at a speed that would be receivable. But then I question if I'd be better off just rocketing it like an idiot because then the goalie or d-man has less of a chance to lunge at it and knock it down.

It just feels like there's less of a reward for doing it in a way that is justified and makes sense. But forcing it 100 times as hard as you can pass it eventually pays off.

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV3PhvCf_Jg

Just heard about this game on Steam Greenlight (and of course the controversy it's generating). I guess this is the closest thing to the game I was wanting. But even this seems more like just some idiot on a rampage. It even makes it seem like you just mow down police and stuff too, which is ridiculous.

I wanted something more thoughtful and targeted with stealth and covering your tracks being a big part of the game. More Jack The Ripper...less random mall shooter. Who knows. Maybe you can play it that way. We'll see if it even comes out.

 
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Now, this game seems to be right in my wheelhouse. Saw a preview for it in the most recent PC Gamer magazine. I guess it's going to be episodic, with the first episode coming out on January 30th.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jloyb3n9FPQ

 
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Just heard about this game on Steam Greenlight (and of course the controversy it's generating). I guess this is the closest thing to the game I was wanting. But even this seems more like just some idiot on a rampage. It even makes it seem like you just mow down police and stuff too, which is ridiculous.

I wanted something more thoughtful and targeted with stealth and covering your tracks being a big part of the game. More Jack The Ripper...less random mall shooter. Who knows. Maybe you can play it that way. We'll see if it even comes out.
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Hatred was exactly the game I was referring to when we had that serial killer discussion lol.
 
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Hatred was exactly the game I was referring to when we had that serial killer discussion lol.
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Haha, yeah. The premise just seems a little trite and uncreative. "I hate all humanity. They're all worms who don't deserve to live." My game would be disturbingly sociopathic. Like "I want to love you, so I have to burn you alive." shit, lol. Unless Hatred has a bunch of tall, dark-haired guys that I can target and pretend are Ramjagsingh, I doubt it will have much appeal, haha. :lol:

 
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Nate did you see this?

http://kotaku.com/you-cant-gift-steam-games-wherever-you-want-anymore-1672525767
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Yeah, I saw something about that earlier but didn't have time to read the article. This is what I thought they were doing when they changed the re-trading policy. It was bound to happen. Like I said then, I can respect them for protecting their interests as long as they don't exact punishment for prior offenses like Microsoft did when they went on their massive Xbox 360 console banning spree.

Hopefully, in the long term this will lead to better Steam sales since it will probably change purchasing habits quite a bit. Either way, I have enough games in my backlog to last until I'm 800 years old anyway, lol. :)

 
Hopped on FSX.

Speedrunners?

Mount Your Friends if it goes up for a bigger sale?

Also, I'm taking quite a drive to go to a graduation tomorrow, so I might miss hockey night, or be on very late.

 
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Hopped on FSX.

Speedrunners?

Mount Your Friends if it goes up for a bigger sale?

Also, I'm taking quite a drive to go to a graduation tomorrow, so I might miss hockey night, or be on very late.
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I still think Speedrunners would be good for a lot of laughs. Looks like the 4 pack would work out to $1.88 each. And Mount Your Friends...even with the current discount for the 4 pack would be like $2.51 each.

They both seems like very simple "pick up and play" games. I'd be down for either...or both.

 
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