Seahawks Rule! AKA Official NFL Discussion Thread #3

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[quote name='bil4ltool']Oh, and like last week I think the defenses will score more then the offenses, great turnover for the Skins!!!![/QUOTE]

Yeah, this is more because the 'Skins rule rather than because the Seahawks choke.

Uh huh.
 
What are you talking about? The way their offense is going why on earth would you go for it when you need 8 yards for the touchdown? The way the Skins D is playing right now 3 points is better then 0.
 
[quote name='bil4ltool']What are you talking about? The way their offense is going why on earth would you go for it when you need 8 yards for the touchdown? The way the Skins D is playing right now 3 points is better then 0.[/QUOTE]

And just for the record, i didnt mean go for it on fourth down....especially in the playoffs, any points you leave off the board in the redzone is a big mark at the end of the game.
 
No going for it on 4th down and not converting thus resulting in 0 points gets you closer to losing, seriously no coach in the league would have gone for it with the way the offense is playing.
 
If you didn't mean go for it on fourth down then what are you talking about "settling for a FG"? What other option did they have, go for it or kick a FG.
 
The Skins gotta slow down Hasselbacks's little runs and keep Sean Taylor from spitting on people. I think they need to blitz a bit more now that Seattle's run game is coming alive.
 
[quote name='bil4ltool']The Skins gotta slow down Hasselbacks's little runs and keep Sean Taylor from spitting on people. I think they need to blitz a bit more now that Seattle's run game is coming alive.[/QUOTE]

I always thought MOmo was better then alexander. Alexander's run vision is very limited. You can see it on two plays, Alexander swept left and tried to go inside the receiver rite into the LB instead of taking it outside to pick up 2-3. Momo takes it outside picks it up. When alexander plays good d's he never plays because they all stick to gap responsiblities just like the skins are and he never got off.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']Shaun Alexander out for the game.[/QUOTE]

good as far as im concerned. Maybe Seattle wont resign him then since hes such a big time performing disappointment.
 
i dont know why gibbs didnt a HB Draw there on third down, usually they are good for about 10 plus or so yards on 3rd down against a zone like that. might of put hall in fg position.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']Gotta take a field goal over a 4th and 13... You need 2 scores to tie anyway.[/QUOTE]

I think it was too far for a field goal, especially on the wet turf. Everyones been having problems holding the ball. Im sure gibbs was thinking that this was washingtons best offensive drive of the game, you may as well as try to ride the momentum and go with what has a higher chance of getting the job done.
 
Out/inactive for the Patriots:

LT Nick Kaczur
WR Bam Childress
RB Patrick Pass
OL Gene Mruczkowski
WR Bethel Johnson
DT Dan Klecko
DL Santonio Thomas

Nick Kaczur, Patrick Pass, and Bethel Johnson were unexpected. Kaczur is real blow, he's been playing well since Matt Light got hurt. They'll probably have to use Tom Ashworth, who sucks.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']Out/inactive for the Patriots:

LT Nick Kaczur
WR Bam Childress
RB Patrick Pass
OL Gene Mruczkowski
WR Bethel Johnson
DT Dan Klecko
DL Santonio Thomas

Nick Kaczur, Patrick Pass, and Bethel Johnson were unexpected. Kaczur is real blow, he's been playing well since Matt Light got hurt. They'll probably have to use Tom Ashworth, who sucks.[/QUOTE]

its not the end of the world against a team that cant pass rush anyway.
 
[quote name='thingsfallnapart']its not the end of the world against a team that cant pass rush anyway.[/QUOTE]
Thats what I was thinking.
 
[quote name='pimpinc333']Y? Now why on 4th and 2 did they go for it all? Brunell is a capable runner. Pick up the 1st then go for it all 4 times.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps because they were down by 10 not 7 with a minute left and they weren't playing the game just to beat the spread.

Anyhow, Seahawks win although that was a pretty ugly victory.
 
Congrats Redskins fans, your team went on a great run. you had a 3-0 edge in the turnover battle and lost, you put up a great fight and have nothing to be ashamed of.
 
[quote name='zionoverfire']Perhaps because they were down by 10 not 7 with a minute left and they weren't playing the game just to beat the spread.

Anyhow, Seahawks win although that was a pretty ugly victory.[/QUOTE]

How long does it take to throw an out pattern 6 secs. Would you rather Make the first down with 41 secs left and the clock has stopped or do what they did.
 
Oh, well. Nice season for the Skins. They just didn't take advantage of the Seahawks turnovers like they should have. Great game by the Seahawks considering they were without Alexander. I can take down my Skins controller sig now I guess. :cry:
 
[quote name='dafoomie']Thats what I was thinking.[/QUOTE]

I think If the patriots can get 100 yard game on the ground, be it corey dillion or anyone else, theyll win by 7+.

The Patriots strength is clock control, and against the broncos, i think itll give them fits, especially now that the pats can stop the run.

Since the Broncos cant run if they fall behind, and they have no big play receivers (rod smith is a good possesion receiver, but by no means is a burner anymore now that hes older), if the patriots can go up 10 , that might be enough.

I think scoring a TD for the patriots first is a big key to the game. If they can force Denver away from the run early by going up 10, much less 7, it can force denver to go away from the running they love to do, and force snake to throw downfield passes that can be dangerous.

I think the Pats will win 23-17. If they get 100 + yards on the ground.

If the Broncos get 100+ they win 24-17.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']Oh, well. Nice season for the Skins. They just didn't take advantage of the Seahawks turnovers like they should have. Great game by the Seahawks considering they were without Alexander. I can take down my Skins controller sig now I guess. :cry:[/QUOTE]

Ya this is what i was talking about with the old "every time you settle for a fg in the playoffs you get one step closer to losing"

Holmngren coached a great game, by getting hasselbeck to scramble and breakdown the coverage with his feet.

The only call i didnt like was the 4th and 1 and the 14-3 lead. i woulda gone for it, especially in the redskins redzone. With the skins not moving the ball too well, thrown in with the fact that the seahawks left side is better then anyone elses, a first down there coulda put the game away, along with a td after (maybe)
 
[quote name='pimpinc333']How long does it take to throw an out pattern 6 secs. Would you rather Make the first down with 41 secs left and the clock has stopped or do what they did.[/QUOTE]

This isn't college football the clock doesn't stop for first, unless of course you make it out of bounds.

Basically there wasn't much time left and they needed momentum for the on side kick.
 
Jesus, the play of the game is a tie between the blown FG and Brunell not hitting Santana Moss and letting him get hit by I believe Trufant.
 
[quote name='thingsfallnapart']I think If the patriots can get 100 yard game on the ground, be it corey dillion or anyone else, theyll win by 7+.

The Patriots strength is clock control, and against the broncos, i think itll give them fits, especially now that the pats can stop the run.

Since the Broncos cant run if they fall behind, and they have no big play receivers (rod smith is a good possesion receiver, but by no means is a burner anymore now that hes older), if the patriots can go up 10 , that might be enough.

I think scoring a TD for the patriots first is a big key to the game. If they can force Denver away from the run early by going up 10, much less 7, it can force denver to go away from the running they love to do, and force snake to throw downfield passes that can be dangerous.

I think the Pats will win 23-17. If they get 100 + yards on the ground.

If the Broncos get 100+ they win 24-17.[/QUOTE]
I think the Broncos can stop the run, but I don't think they can stop Brady. They can augment the running game with screens and draws if they have to, but I think they can run enough to keep them honest. The Patriots strength, and the Broncos weakness, is the passing game.

Wow, they just played a song from Jet Set Radio Future on the CBS pregame show.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']I think the Broncos can stop the run, but I don't think they can stop Brady. They can augment the running game with screens and draws if they have to, but I think they can run enough to keep them honest. The Patriots strength, and the Broncos weakness, is the passing game.

Wow, they just played a song from Jet Set Radio Future on the CBS pregame show.[/QUOTE]

im not sure the broncos Defensive passing D is as bad as people think. Usually when a team is exceptional at stopping the run, other teams fall behind big sometimes and do nothing but throw on the opposing D and their passing yards look a little bloated because they arent picking up first downs on the ground and controlling the clock.

Im not too sure about that though, Denver wasnt on enough out here in seattle to really see if this was the truth to denvers game or not. However i feel alot has to do with wether or not the broncos can get any pass rush at all.

If denver blitzs a lot, tom brady will just go down the field to the Tightends and Deion Branch. But it Denver sits down in the zone, the patriots run more then enough screens and slants to break them.

I really feel Denver is the team in trouble in this game.
 
[quote name='thingsfallnapart']im not sure the broncos Defensive passing D is as bad as people think. Usually when a team is exceptional at stopping the run, other teams fall behind big sometimes and do nothing but throw on the opposing D and their passing yards look a little bloated because they arent picking up first downs on the ground and controlling the clock.

Im not too sure about that though, Denver wasnt on enough out here in seattle to really see if this was the truth to denvers game or not. However i feel alot has to do with wether or not the broncos can get any pass rush at all.

If denver blitzs a lot, tom brady will just go down the field to the Tightends and Deion Branch. But it Denver sits down in the zone, the patriots run more then enough screens and slants to break them.

I really feel Denver is the team in trouble in this game.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say Denver's passing defense is bad, not at all. But very few defenses have ever really stopped Brady.

I like how the TE's matchup against Denver, especially the Watson-Lynch matchup. Lynch is short and not terribly fast, Watson is 6'3 250 and runs like a WR. Denver likes to blitz with their safeties, too.
 
[quote name='DT778']me too[/QUOTE]

All this Seahawks hate, horrible. It's like they'd crushed the dreams of a team that might have had a chance at winning the super bowl this year.
 
They had the play they wanted, Fauria was wide open... It takes balls to win football games, even if it doesn't work out every time.
 
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