Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Gen. Discussion & Info

[quote name='CoffeeEdge']Aw, man, the Kirby music is more synthshit.

One of my biggest hopes for Brawl was for it to have a full orchestrated soundtrack.

Pity.[/quote]

Have you even listened to the rest of the music they have on the Dojo site? The MGS4 Love Theme is a beautiful orchestral score.

BTW, that kirby rating system is pretty darn cool Strell. It really needs a "MEH" rating, though.
 
[quote name='Killer Rabbit']
BTW, that kirby rating system is pretty darn cool Strell. It really needs a "MEH" rating, though.[/QUOTE]

Yes my son, yes. You have learned much through your training.
 
[quote name='Strell']Man.

I never actually thought people would be dicks about something this trivial.[/quote]

Hello.. uhh.. Strell is it?

I don't think I've ever seen you here before -- welcome to CAG!
 
[quote name='Strell']Man.

Forget the rating thing, if people are going to be smartass fucksticks about it.[/quote]
Kirby rating system = awesome.

If they someone doesn't like it, fuck em.

I demand a daily kirby head rating for every update.
 
It's just that you people act like I didn't think this all out.

There's no "meh" Kirby in that strip, and I'm too lazy to want to draw one (though I must admit that him-playing-Chameleon-Twist is a hilarious idea).

I figured "bad" was too much, and it certainly wasn't terrible, so I halved the awesome one. Makes sense.

Ugh.
 
[quote name='Strell']It's just that you people act like I didn't think this all out.

There's no "meh" Kirby in that strip, and I'm too lazy to want to draw one (though I must admit that him-playing-Chameleon-Twist is a hilarious idea).

I figured "bad" was too much, and it certainly wasn't terrible, so I halved the awesome one. Makes sense.

Ugh.[/quote]

Movies can get 4 1/2 stars...

I think the problem is you didn't quantify your system.. whats a GOOD rating? 4 kirbys? One kirby?
 
[quote name='Killer Rabbit']Have you even listened to the rest of the music they have on the Dojo site? The MGS4 Love Theme is a beautiful orchestral score.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I've listened to all of the music (I check the updates daily).

So far, only two of the songs are clearly and indisputably being performed by a live orchestra playing real instruments: the Main Theme, and the Fire Emblem Theme.

The MGS4 song sounds really nice, but I'm about 90% sure that it is, for the most part, synth (the violin sounds real, though).

I'm not talking about orchestral style music, here. I'm saying that I wish that more of the music was actually performed and recorded by a large, live orchestra, playing on real instruments.

If nothing else, I think that it's just horrifically clashy.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']Yes, I've listened to all of the music (I check the updates daily).

So far, only two of the songs are clearly and indisputably being performed by a live orchestra playing real instruments: the Main Theme, and the Fire Emblem Theme.

The MGS4 song sounds really nice, but I'm about 90% sure that it is, for the most part, synth (the violin sounds real, though).

I'm not talking about orchestral style music, here. I'm saying that I wish that more of the music was actually performed and recorded by a large, live orchestra, playing on real instruments.

If nothing else, I think that it's just horrifically clashy.[/quote]

That's a lot to ask for. They only have so much money to spend; you can't expect them to have a full orchestra play every song.

Plus some stages just don't fit with orchestral music. Could you see the WarioWare stage having orchestral music? What about the Animal Crossing stage? Yes, orchestral music would certainly be okay, but Ashley's Theme and K.K. Rider fit the stages much better.
 
I love my daily ritual. My iPhone alarm wakes me up, I roll over, open safari, and check out the update as I lay in bed. Sounds stupid, but I really like it.
 
[quote name='-Never4ever-']I third the SBS.[/quote]
It's gotta be the SSB, or Samus System, with Boob (-s).

That way, the acronym matches the Super Smash Bros. acronym.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']Yes, I've listened to all of the music (I check the updates daily).

So far, only two of the songs are clearly and indisputably being performed by a live orchestra playing real instruments: the Main Theme, and the Fire Emblem Theme.

The MGS4 song sounds really nice, but I'm about 90% sure that it is, for the most part, synth (the violin sounds real, though).

I'm not talking about orchestral style music, here. I'm saying that I wish that more of the music was actually performed and recorded by a large, live orchestra, playing on real instruments.

If nothing else, I think that it's just horrifically clashy.[/QUOTE]

Maybe it is clashy, but with 4 (maybe more) songs a stage, with multiple composers you werent going to get everyone to use the same backing or style. I do; however, hope for some more full orcestra songs.
 
[quote name='Strell']Samus Side Boob.[/quote]
...That popped into my head a few minutes after I posted SSB.

Good call, O Maker of the Rating System. ;):cool:
 
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Spectator Mode will be what I will watch during dinner.
 
While I think this is a cool update, it completely underscores how sorely missed a real ranking system will be. If you were looking to improve your game, wouldn't you like to hop on a leaderboard, see who the best players are, and spectate one of their games?
 
[quote name='Killer Rabbit']That's a lot to ask for. They only have so much money to spend; you can't expect them to have a full orchestra play every song.[/QUOTE]

Uh, have you seen Nintendo's financials lately? Budget shouldn't really be a concern here. And it's actually not that horribly expensive, especially for a game as important, high-profile, and presumably, high-budget as Brawl.

To make an example: You can hire a 100-piece orchestra of AFM members for $108,000 for a 6-hour session, enough for about 20 minutes of finished music, going by what I know of score recording. You could get an entire week of those 6-hour days, easily enough for nearly 2 hours of music, for $540,000.

With game budgets regularly surpassing $15 and $20 million, does that really seem like so much? Especially when you consider how important audio is to the entertainment experiance. Neil D Voss, the legendary Tetrisphere and New Tetris composer, once lamented how, despite hearing a study claiming that the audio counts for 25% of the mental perception of a multimedia experiance, you never see a game with 25% of it's budget allocated to audio.

Even if they spent a million dollars on recording music, that's, what? A couple days worth of DS profits? And really, the game is guaranteed to sell millions and earn back it's cost severalfold.


Nintendo had over two hours of live orchestra music recorded for Mario Galaxy, so it's not like they can't afford it, or haven't done something on that scale before. They could do it, but, alas. Seems like Brawl is definitely synth-centric (and IMO, not even outstanding synths at that).

Still gonna be the best game evar.
 
I'm sure I will love this. I love smash, but sometimes you just wanna sit and watch others play, you know? Plus the ability to see more people play and their strategies will be helpful.
 
[quote name='mikej012']I'm sure I will love this. I love smash, but sometimes you just wanna sit and watch others play, you know? Plus the ability to see more people play and their strategies will be helpful.[/quote]

Totally agree on both counts.

I often prefer just sitting back and watching the action unfold...especially in THIS environment because we'll each have a vested interest (if we so choose) in one of the competitors. Having a reason to root someone on makes watching the action all the more awesome.

And yeah, seeing HOW people play (and win) with each character will be pretty nice too. It'll certainly help for preparation for online play, seeing how human competitors typically play.
 
a week of crappy updates. If you don't know who they are, than how would you be able to pick the leaders on a leaderboard? Would it just be random people with no names at all times? We need a new character update. When are we going to get megaman?
 
I don't know random spectators seems almost useless. I could be an awesome match. It could be a suckfest between newbies. I could be a completely borefest between a first rank competitor and a newbie., and then you want me to bet on it? Until I unlock everything and just have coins to blow there's no point in betting on a fight just based on the fighters and location.

Now the thing that could help would be if I could stay with the same group of people watching match after match.

What would be even MORE cool was if spectators could instigate audience calls. When the crowd starts chanting 'Marth, Marth, Marth' it'd be nice to know that someone out there like Strell or Crotch was the one cheering me on as I pummel DMK.

[quote name='crystalklear64']Are ya'll seriously complaining about a fabricated rating system about the updates for a game that isn't even out in a gaming discussion forum....[/quote]not really. i couldn't careless but it was just a really boring night.

[quote name='Kingfalcon']it completely underscores how sorely missed a real ranking system will be[/quote]at the VERY LEAST a ranking system. I agree entirely. Hunters had a sort of ranking system why not Smash.
 
My concern about the whole spectator thing is that it could cause lag for the people actually playing. Hopefully there's an option to keep spectators out.
 
[quote name='MisterHand']My concern about the whole spectator thing is that it could cause lag for the people actually playing. Hopefully there's an option to keep spectators out.[/quote]Read the update.
 
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[quote name='MisterHand']My concern about the whole spectator thing is that it could cause lag for the people actually playing. Hopefully there's an option to keep spectators out.[/quote]I think even with spectators it will prioritize so if there is any leg the spec gets it.
 
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