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Holy shit. I thought it was April Fool's or something, how did Sony manage to screw up in so many ways? 2 SKUs (much worse than the 360 - the console hardware is actually different in this case), half-assed Wii ripoff controller (and they had to remove vibration capability), $500-$600?? And...

Are we going to see the game rental business skyrocket? I'm seriously considering a Blockbuster Game Pass, they have pretty much everything I want and I'll never have to worry about finding low prices for buying games again, except for the occasional XBL title. Would $60 games convince any of...

HAHHAHAHAHAH! Who the fuck would buy this for $100? Maybe $50. Is the screen even color?

Hey isn't Doom 3 the best-looking Xbox game?

If the PS3 launches high (as expected), and Halo 3 is MS's answer to the PS3 launch (as Bill Gates as suggested), then I don't think we'll see a price drop for at least a year.

Mark Rein basically confirmed my suspicions in the other thread.

The original Xbox Wireless Adapter will work fine on the 360. I have one that's new and sealed that I'm not using, PM me if you want to buy it.

I thought this had been confirmed?

the GC will be fucking cheap. Man I bet we'll get 'em for $25. I'm going to play through some of those offline hits while the new consoles fight it out and drop in price. Any recommendations for good games to play?

Yeah this is the problem with large threads. Backwards compatibility, which Microsoft has just announced will eventually be complete (so every Xbox game can be played on the 360), will require the hard drive.

They should add Chip's Challenge while they're at it. I'm totally serious.

It's still listed as an Xbox Live accessory, but I don't think it will be released at launch. Real-time video chat, video messages, "put your face in the game," etc. is all there.

What I meant was, the Xbox was much more similar to a regular PC than the PS2 was, so it got a lot of PC-like games. But now both the 360 and the PS3 aren't really similar to a regular PC, so this is no longer an advantage. I definitely hear what you're saying. But since the PS3 and the 360...

OK admit it, I know a bunch of you saw that and thought "MILF!"

I'm posting this here because I'm an Xbox owner and huge fan, and I'm looking for opinions from people in a position similar to mine. When it was time to decide between PS2 and Xbox, there was no question. The PS2's graphics sucked, it didn't have anything like Xbox Live, it had no hard drive...

Hey I'm just curious, wasn't the first Killzone a total disappointment? Why are so many people looking forward to the sequel? I'm just asking, I've never played it.

That would be fucking awesome.

To be blunt, that's because the PS1 was a piece of shit when it came to graphics. The N64 -> Dreamcast transition was much smaller. I agree, that screenshot isn't what I'd call the best example of the 360's capabilities.

You have to remember Doom 3 is probably the pinnacle of Xbox graphics. Quake 4 is just a launch title. Also, before someone posts screenshots, I can already tell you that Doom 3 runs at 640x480 (or possibly 853x480) and Quake 4 runs at up to 1920x1080 or 1280x720 with full screen anti-aliasing.

Dude if you know what connotation means you probably knew scam has a bad one.