2009/2010 NFL Thread - Combine Time - Draft 4/22 -

I hope that the Jets win the AFC so teams will think twice about resting their starters and letting some undeserving team into the playoffs.
 
[quote name='Tony208']I hope that the Jets win the AFC so teams will think twice about resting their starters and letting some undeserving team into the playoffs.[/QUOTE]As far as the Colts go, you'd be silly to think that the Jets advancing would have any effect on how they approach late season games in the future. The Colts (specifically Bill Polian) are very stalwart in their decision making. They rested their players and got past the "one and done after a bye" issue that had plagued them. That only reaffirms the club's decisions to rest players.
 
In the Colts-Jets game in Week 15, the Colts pulled their starters when it was 15-10, which immediately turned in 29-15. Keep in mind that at the half it was 9-3, a kickoff return made it 10-9, and then Peyton came back immediately to make it 15-10. Also remember that the Jets basically got no pressure on Manning in those 2 quarters he played.

The Jets will come in pretty cocky I think because they beat the Colts earlier and keep in mind they didn't play exceptionally against the Chargers, who didn't play all that well either. The Colts have something to prove here since they are basically undefeated when they actually play, but they don't have that undefeated pressure. They have to go and prove 'hey, no one can beat us when we play' and so far they've done exactly that. Sanchez doesn't respond well to sitting on the bench for a while, too; Peyton on the other hand thrives on them, and can make them happen at any time. Colts win 24-10.
 
[quote name='cgarb84']AHAHA the ironing would be delicious? Do you have some suits that need to be pressed? :lol:[/QUOTE]

[quote name='keithp']Don't be silly. Obviously the suits are for EATING.[/QUOTE]

Doesn't anyone watch the Simpsons?
 
[quote name='KingBroly']In the Colts-Jets game in Week 15, the Colts pulled their starters when it was 15-10, which immediately turned in 29-15. Keep in mind that at the half it was 9-3, a kickoff return made it 10-9, and then Peyton came back immediately to make it 15-10. Also remember that the Jets basically got no pressure on Manning in those 2 quarters he played.

The Jets will come in pretty cocky I think because they beat the Colts earlier and keep in mind they didn't play exceptionally against the Chargers, who didn't play all that well either. The Colts have something to prove here since they are basically undefeated when they actually play, but they don't have that undefeated pressure. They have to go and prove 'hey, no one can beat us when we play' and so far they've done exactly that. Sanchez doesn't respond well to sitting on the bench for a while, too; Peyton on the other hand thrives on them, and can make them happen at any time. Colts win 24-10.[/QUOTE]

Colts will kill the Jets. I think the Colts will win by more than 14 if they can contain the run. If the Bengals made their field goals and if they didn't drop passes, they would have beat the Jets. If the Chargers made their field goals, they would have beat the Jets as well. Jets are not playing particularly well in the playoffs, they are just winning because their opponents are playing worse.
 
The Colts should take out their star players if it's a close game so they can still say "oh we would've won if our starters were playing, we're still undefeated". Nelson laugh.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']In the Colts-Jets game in Week 15, the Colts pulled their starters when it was 15-10, which immediately turned in 29-15. Keep in mind that at the half it was 9-3, a kickoff return made it 10-9, and then Peyton came back immediately to make it 15-10. Also remember that the Jets basically got no pressure on Manning in those 2 quarters he played.[/QUOTE]

Thank for a realistic rundown of how that game went. The Jets showed absolutely no life offensively. And as soon as they got the lead thanks to the kickoff return, the defense gave it right back, as Manning carved them up like a turkey. If the Colts did not pull the plug, I would say the Jets had almost zero chance of winning that one. Manning played a bad first half, overthrowing open receivers, and the Colts were still winning.
 
[quote name='ananag112']Colts will kill the Jets. I think the Colts will win by more than 14 if they can contain the run. If the Bengals made their field goals and if they didn't drop passes, they would have beat the Jets. If the Chargers made their field goals, they would have beat the Jets as well. Jets are not playing particularly well in the playoffs, they are just winning because their opponents are playing worse.[/QUOTE]

Really? The Jets are playing great, IMO. No mistakes, shut-down defense and they are scoring enough and capitalizing on their opponents miscues to win. They would have beaten the Bengals with or without those FGs (also Edwards dropped a gimme TD) and I still think they would have beaten the Chargers if Keading made those 2 easy FGs (the 57-yarder was a hail mary). It might have gone to OT or something but the game would have been completely different and maybe the Chargers don't score that late TD... I don't know. I felt like the Jets won that game rather than the Chargers blowing it (it's about 70-30).

I think the Colts will win this weekend but I don't think it will be easy - Manning will have to win the game going to Dallas Clark because Reggie Wayne isn't going to do jack against Revis. Garcon is a good option but he is hot and cold and the rest of the Jets defense should be able to take him out. The Colts also have no running game top fall back on. I think Manning will be the difference and find a way to score points but it should be a good game. I worry that the Jets will be out of it if the Colts grab a lead because they are not built to play from behind.
 
[quote name='javeryh']Doesn't anyone watch the Simpsons?[/QUOTE]:lol:

[quote name='KingBroly']In the Colts-Jets game in Week 15, the Colts pulled their starters when it was 15-10, which immediately turned in 29-15. Keep in mind that at the half it was 9-3, a kickoff return made it 10-9, and then Peyton came back immediately to make it 15-10. Also remember that the Jets basically got no pressure on Manning in those 2 quarters he played.

The Jets will come in pretty cocky I think because they beat the Colts earlier and keep in mind they didn't play exceptionally against the Chargers, who didn't play all that well either. The Colts have something to prove here since they are basically undefeated when they actually play, but they don't have that undefeated pressure. They have to go and prove 'hey, no one can beat us when we play' and so far they've done exactly that. Sanchez doesn't respond well to sitting on the bench for a while, too; Peyton on the other hand thrives on them, and can make them happen at any time. Colts win 24-10.[/QUOTE]I highly doubt that winning a game in which the opponent pulled their starters would make a team cocky. They know what that game was about for the Colts.

I'm with javeryh, I see the Colts as the favorite but it won't be easy.
 
Yeah, with the Jets defense I expect it to be a hard fought game as well.

I think the Colts win by 10-14, with it being closer than that most of the game.

The other game is a complete toss up IMO. I even bother making a prediction on who'll win that with any confidence, much less what the margin will be. I suspect it will be a close, relatively high scoring game (both teams in the high 20s, low 30s). But I wouldn't be shocked by a blow out for either team.
 
[quote name='J7.']Which game will be the better one to watch? I say Vikings/Saints.[/QUOTE]

I think both are shaping up to be some damn fine games.
 
I'm looking more forward to Vikings/Saints as I expect it to be a high scoring game.

While the Jets/Colts game is likely to be a lower scoring defensive affair unless the Jets collapse some and get blown out. And I've just never been a fan of the "3 yards and a cloud of dust offense and play tough defense" brand of football.
 
[quote name='DT778']:lol:

I highly doubt that winning a game in which the opponent pulled their starters would make a team cocky. They know what that game was about for the Colts.

I'm with javeryh, I see the Colts as the favorite but it won't be easy.[/QUOTE]

Rex Ryan already has my back on this, saying he'd be shocked if they didn't win. :roll:

I think the game in Week 15 can be thrown out. While they were leading 15-10 halfway through the 3rd, we don't really know how hard the Colts were playing because they knew they were being taken out at some point. If they were playing to win, I imagine the score would've been different.

Expect a low scoring Vikings/Saints game. 2 High Powered Offenses often make a low scoring game. That'd definitely favor the Vikings, but the Vikings on the road against good teams haven't faired so well. 17-13 Saints.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']Expect a low scoring Vikings/Saints game. 2 High Powered Offenses often make a low scoring game. That'd definitely favor the Vikings, but the Vikings on the road against good teams haven't faired so well. 17-13 Saints.[/QUOTE]

Like the Cardinals and Packers game? :D

I expect at least one team to score in the high 20s to low 30s.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Like the Cardinals and Packers game? :D

I expect at least one team to score in the high 20s to low 30s.[/QUOTE]

If you think Green Bay and Arizona have the same offensive capabilities as New Orleans and Minnesota, you are out of your cotton picking mind.
 
I am picking the Colts 23-16 and the Saints 38-34. The Saints looked fantastic last week. They really changed up their "normal" game plan (mostly shotgun formations) to something much more conventional (Brees under center for the majority of the game) proving they can score just about every which way. The Vikings are really going to have no idea what to expect. Also, every time this season that the Saints were playing an important game they destroyed their opponent (Giants, Patriots, Cardinals) (other than arguably in Week 14 against the Cowboys but that game wasn't too important to the Saints at the time). I think the Saints are well-coached and extremely talented - they should win at home.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']If you think Green Bay and Arizona have the same offensive capabilities as New Orleans and Minnesota, you are out of your cotton picking mind.[/QUOTE]

Arizona is a bit behind, but Green Bay is right there with them.

Points per game in the regular season:

1. New Orleans-31.9
2. Minnesota-29.4
3. Green Bay- 28.8
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11. Arizona- 23.4

And Arizona was explosive but just hit or miss over the year. Had 7 games with 30+ points. Including a 41 point game and the 51 point game vs the Packers. But they also had 3 games where they struggled and scored 10 or less, which pulls their average down.


In any case, I'd be shocked if a match up between the two highest scoring teams in the league, had a very low scoring game. Especially with New Orleans D not being great--ranked 20th in scoring D with 21.8 pts per game, Minnesota was much better at 10th at 19.5, and was definitely great last week.

Unless Favre and Brees both struggle and throw INTs I expect the winning team to score at least 28 pts.
 
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Green Bay's offense is coming up to speed quite nicely. They were a couple misplaced throws from winning some games (like the Cards wildcard game) and went on 6 consecutive TD scoring drives in the same game to almost pull off the comeback.

Minnesota would be running teams over without a hitch if the RUNNING GAME WORKED. To me, it's like more than 50% of the running plays are just a "handoff and run through the middle" design, and rarely does it look like there was some real thought into figuring out how to make it better.
 
[quote name='Inf^Shini']
Minnesota would be running teams over without a hitch if the RUNNING GAME WORKED. To me, it's like more than 50% of the running plays are just a "handoff and run through the middle" design, and rarely does it look like there was some real thought into figuring out how to make it better.[/QUOTE]
There's a reason nobody ever talks about our offensive coordinator.
 
Yeah the lack of running game the latter half (or more) of the season has been baffling).

With how well Favre is throwing the ball, you'd really think that would be opening up the run game for Peterson.
 
Wow, this game hasn't gone as expected so far. Jets pretty much dominating, and Sanchez has thrown to TDs.

17-6 Jets with a couple minutes to go until halftime.

Edit: And right after I post that, Indy goes down for a TD to make it 17-13. Shaping up to be a great game.
 
VERY impressed by the Jets. I don't care what team you root for, you have to like what they're doing now, including their great run in the playoffs. Some amazing play calling on their end. Likin' it very much.

Something I don't get though: Why is Jay Feely wearing gloves? Indoors?
 
The hell's with the horrible FG % this playoffs?

Don't like the Jets chances if it's this close in the 4th. And it's looking like Peyton's pissed now... eating their secondary alive :cry:
 
It was a stupid move for Ryan to try a 52 yard field goal. With that defense in that situation, they needed to try and pin the Colts.
 
Colts win baby! Manning has to be the most intelligent and best QB to ever play the game, championships aside. He is able to just adjust his offense to any defense. It may start off slow, but after he has the defense read halfway through the game, he just gets it going.
 
Colt's just totally dominated the 2nd half.

Really looking forward to the next game. Pulling for the Vikes as I'd like to see Favre get another title. But I like the Saints ok as well, so I'll root for the winner of this game in the super bowl.

But I'm fine with the Colts as well, so I'll be able to sit back and enjoy it since I don't really love or hate any of the teams left at this point. Unlike last year which was a downer since I loathe the Steelers.
 
[quote name='wybo_a']Colts win baby! Manning has to be the most intelligent and best QB to ever play the game, championships aside. He is able to just adjust his offense to any defense. It may start off slow, but after he has the defense read halfway through the game, he just gets it going.[/QUOTE]


The only times Manning has really struggled was against the Pats in blizzards up in Foxboro. Steelers got em a couple years back as well. Chargers have had their number the last two seasons also. Basically a team has be able to get pressure with four, if you can't Manning will pick you apart all day. Second, you MUST have an offense that can score at WILL! Garcon and Collie really make the future look great as well. The D is what is really the key to this team they have been playing amazing, swarming every play, it's like they cloned Bob Sanders!!!
 
Nice opening drive for the Vikes. And Saints answer with an opening TD of their own.

Looks like this could be a shoot out....which is what I was hoping for.
 
The Saints are definitely hitting Favre. Too bad they can barely hit anyone else.

Oh, and Goodell has definitely told the refs to push Favre across that finish line. A couple of bad calls on that TD drive.
 
Bad calls my ass, they were good calls. It seems like the saints are deliberately giving up yards so they can get some cheap hits on the QB to soften him up. It's like what they did last week.
 
[quote name='Tony208']Bad calls my ass, they were good calls. It seems like the saints are deliberately giving up yards so they can get some cheap hits on the QB to soften him up. It's like what they did last week.[/QUOTE]

Bingo

That one late hit on Favre that drew the 15 yd penalty was completely blatant.
 
The holding call was within 5 yards (you're allowed to hold within 5 yards by rule) and the 15 yard penalty had the Saints player missing by a mile. Not only that, it came in extremely late.

And don't even dare try and say whatever it was at the end of the 1st was a penalty. I still don't know what they were trying to call.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']The holding call was within 5 yards (you're allowed to hold within 5 yards by rule) and the 15 yard penalty had the Saints player missing by a mile. Not only that, it came in extremely late.[/QUOTE]

The 15 yd penalty was because of the late hit on Favre. The ref announced it wrong but it was called correctly.
 
I'd be shocked if that fumbled hand off doesn't bit the Vikes in the ass.

Can't get a turnover at the 10 yard line and come away with no points.
 
Vikings just fumbled this game away. It's not over, but as Keith said, can't fumble this much an win. But they did force a 3 and out (depending challenge--that looks likely to just confirm that he was short of the 1st down).
 
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