Golgo 13's No Pantsu Anime & Manga Thread

[quote name='karsh']Leonard is Tessa's brother who showed up in TSR. He sorta stalks Chidori throughout the show and steals a kiss from her. He apparently has knowledge of Whispered. Man, this is seriously making me wanna go back and rewatch all of FMP again too.[/quote]

Oh, that guy. Now I remember him. I was thinking it was the insane doctor who was commanding the hot twincest sister act.:drool:
 
I kinda want to watch TSR again, since it was great.

The first FMP kinda sucked...Fumoffu was fun, but there's no depth to it.

[quote name='GuilewasNK']How is his use of Capoeira a stereotype?[/QUOTE]

Capowhat?

He's black, and he's break dancing (or doing something extremely similar).
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']I kinda want to watch TSR again, since it was great.

The first FMP kinda sucked...Fumoffu was fun, but there's no depth to it.



Capowhat?

He's black, and he's break dancing (or doing something extremely similar).[/quote]

Capoiera is a brazilian martial art that is also a dance. Coincidentally, a lot of capoiera moves have successfully transitioned into breakdancing due to its acrobatic nature. I'd say the stereotype is probably due to Eddie Gordo (a capoiera practitioner) from Tekken. And Eddie himself was probably modeled on breakdancers who've incorporated capoiera into their breakdancing.

 
[quote name='jaykrue']Capoiera is a brazilian martial art that is also a dance. Coincidentally, a lot of capoiera moves have successfully transitioned into breakdancing due to its acrobatic nature. I'd say the stereotype is probably due to Eddie Gordo (a capoiera practitioner) from Tekken. And Eddie himself was probably modeled on breakdancers who've incorporated capoiera into their breakdancing.

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Bob Makihara's use of Capoeira isn't a stereotype though. It isn't negative. It isn't a stereotype when Elena uses it in Street Fighter 3 or Christie Montiero :drool: in Tekken. If anything it is an homage to Eddy Gordo, just like Marshall Law was to Bruce Lee, Raven was to Blade (Wesley Snipes) and Lei Wulong was to Jackie Chan.
 
Did you know?

Capoeira originated in Brazil when slaves created a fighting style disguised as a dance so that they could fight back against their oppressors.

Neat!
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']Bob Makihara's use of Capoeira isn't a stereotype though. It isn't negative. It isn't a stereotype when Elena uses it in Street Fighter 3 or Christie Montiero :drool: in Tekken. If anything it is an homage to Eddy Gordo, just like Marshall Law was to Bruce Lee, Raven was to Blade (Wesley Snipes) and Lei Wulong was to Jackie Chan.[/quote]

I think it depends on perception. One person's stereotype is another's homage. Eddie Gordo didn't have to be black and he still would've been a badass capoiera fighter. Conversely, Marshall law could've been black and he could've still emulated Bruce Lee just as cool (anyone remember Leroy Green aka 'Bruce' Leroy from Last Dragon?).
 
[quote name='jaykrue']I think it depends on perception. One person's stereotype is another's homage. Eddie Gordo didn't have to be black and he still would've been a badass capoiera fighter. Conversely, Marshall law could've been black and he could've still emulated Bruce Lee just as cool (anyone remember Leroy Green aka 'Bruce' Leroy from Last Dragon?).[/quote]

Well, speaking as a black man, I honestly think Bob's use of Caopeira is much ado about nothing.

For contrast, I give you this post on CAG...

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159700

Now, those are real stereotypes.

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nigersaurus good times

Also, anime discussion.

My friend tells me that the new season of anime has started. Anything good and violent that doesn't involve robots?
 
Can anyone reccomend the anime Shuffle! to me? I was told by a bud of mine says it was good, but I just can't really muster up any interest for it.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']Well, speaking as a black man, I honestly think Bob's use of Caopeira is much ado about nothing.

For contrast, I give you this post on CAG...

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159700

Now, those are real stereotypes.

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Is Tenjho Tenge a good anime? I want to check it out after seeing that short clip. :)
 
[quote name='crystalklear64']Also, anime discussion.

My friend tells me that the new season of anime has started. Anything good and violent that doesn't involve robots?[/QUOTE]
Chi's Sweet Home is a guilty pleasure of mine, since I love cats, but it might be too sugary-sweet for most. Itazura na Kiss is going to be great, I can feel it. Soul Eater may have potential. Everything else thus far is just dreadful.

[quote name='Predator21281']Can anyone reccomend the anime Shuffle! to me? I was told by a bud of mine says it was good, but I just can't really muster up any interest for it.[/QUOTE]
If you like mindless harem shows, Shuffle! will probably be right up your alley. Otherwise, stay away.

[quote name='assassinX']Is Tenjho Tenge a good anime? I want to check it out after seeing that short clip. :)[/QUOTE]
Hate it. Tenjho Tenge is the epitome of everything I hate in anime - giant breasts and lots of fighting. I hear the manga is far better, but in this case I think "better" means "more bare breasts and violence," so... I probably wouldn't like that either. The very definition of pandering.
 
[quote name='Kirin Lemon']If you like mindless harem shows, Shuffle! will probably be right up your alley. Otherwise, stay away.[/quote]

I dunno, Shuffle! got better towards the end. Interesting last episode, though.
 
Animage May issue features an interview with Seiji Mizushima, the director of Gundam Double O. Contains massive spoilers for season two , you have been warned


1. Colonel Mannequin is a Strategic Forecaster.
2. The mystery of the character who looks like Lockon will be solved in the 2nd season.
3. Tieria's mysteries (human or not/which gender) will be solved in the 2nd season.
4. Tieria's feelings for Lockon will be revealed in the 2nd season (maybe).
5. The matter of Regene is still a secret. However, it is felt that Regene is a symbol of the 2nd season.
6. The current characters' drama will thicken with addition of new characters.
7. The place Louise and Regene were at was an elevator.
8. Marina is Setsuna's fated person.
9. Lockon is dead. Graham is also dead.
10. The secret of the purple Haro will (probably) be revealed in the 2nd season.
11. The Staff have reflected upon the pace of the first half of the 1st season, and will hasten things up.
12. There will not be much changes upon the story, and there will not be deflection to the dark and painful things.
13. The rest of the mysteries about what Kinue was searching on Aeolia will be accidentally found on Ribbon.
14. In the 2nd season, not every nations in the world bears the intention on joining the EF. The drama of Saji will be developed from there.
15. Louise wears the colors of EF in the final episode.
 
[quote name='Kirin Lemon']Hate it. Tenjho Tenge is the epitome of everything I hate in anime - giant breasts and lots of fighting. I hear the manga is far better, but in this case I think "better" means "more bare breasts and violence," so... I probably wouldn't like that either. The very definition of pandering.[/QUOTE]

This actuallly reminds me of something I've been meaning to bring up for discussion in this thread for the last couple days. Regarding editing in US Manga. I don't know how many of you are familiar with the "editing" job of Tenjho Tenge but I know that lots of fans refuse to support the US release because of it. Personally I've not read either the original nor the US version to comment on it , but I do have a few other manga that have had editing jobs that are "supposedily" detrimental to the quality of the manga.

Two I can think of off hand being Shaman King and Ultimate Muscle.

My question is , I like both manga , but both are edited , and of course VIZ is most likely never going to release unedited versions of either story. Should I support the US release of these stories despite the editing because I like them , or should I just find alternate means of enjoying the originals?

I can elaberate on my situation if anyone isn't completly sure what I'm getting at.
 
[quote name='StarKnightX']This actuallly reminds me of something I've been meaning to bring up for discussion in this thread for the last couple days. Regarding editing in US Manga. I don't know how many of you are familiar with the "editing" job of Tenjho Tenge but I know that lots of fans refuse to support the US release because of it. Personally I've not read either the original nor the US version to comment on it , but I do have a few other manga that have had editing jobs that are "supposedily" detrimental to the quality of the manga.

Two I can think of off hand being Shaman King and Ultimate Muscle.

My question is , I like both manga , but both are edited , and of course VIZ is most likely never going to release unedited versions of either story. Should I support the US release of these stories despite the editing because I like them , or should I just find alternate means of enjoying the originals?



I can elaberate on my situation if anyone isn't completly sure what I'm getting at.[/QUOTE]



Alternate means, I never support companies doing that because the bottom line is money, they see oh gee that cut to pieces manga is still selling and they will do it to other series. Thank God Berserk was never touched by Dark Horse.

Oh and Tenjo Tenge is a great anime if you think of it like this, the real point of the 26 episodes is to explain how it go to the present day, the present day story is really just window dressing as it should be since it hasn't been resolved in the manga. Definately give it a shot, the story is a tragedy that just happens to contain a hell of a lot of fighting
 
[quote name='coolsteel']Alternate means, I never support companies doing that because the bottom line is money, they see oh gee that cut to pieces manga is still selling and they will do it to other series. Thank God Berserk was never touched by Dark Horse.[/quote]

But then you have some manga that are mostly intact with only minor edits vs ones that are heavily censored.

I mean you have ones where the material is completly changed like Ultimate Muscle and Tenjo Tenge.
Then you have ones where it's just minor stuff that doesn't REALLY effect the story overall like DBZ and Fullmetal Alchemist.
Then you have ones which are somewhere in between like Shaman king and I's (I might be mistaken on that one though)

So do you not support any of them because they're all edited somewhat , or just not support the really bad ones?

Oh and Tenjo Tenge is a great anime if you think of it like this, the real point of the 26 episodes is to explain how it go to the present day, the present day story is really just window dressing as it should be since it hasn't been resolved in the manga. Definately give it a shot, the story is a tragedy that just happens to contain a hell of a lot of fighting
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I'd be meaning to give it a try one of these days , even though reviews are all over the place , with some saying it's like a more adult DBZ to some saying it's mindless junk. Either way , I think it at least looks somewhat entertaining , and ultimately isn't it all about entertainment? (Most of the time at least;))
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']Well, speaking as a black man, I honestly think Bob's use of Caopeira is much ado about nothing.

For contrast, I give you this post on CAG...

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159700

Now, those are real stereotypes.

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Well, I suppose we'll hafta agree that we disagree. :lol:

[quote name='Kirin Lemon']Chi's Sweet Home is a guilty pleasure of mine, since I love cats, but it might be too sugary-sweet for most. Itazura na Kiss is going to be great, I can feel it. Soul Eater may have potential. Everything else thus far is just dreadful.[/QUOTE]

Chi's Sweet Home is too sugary sweet for me even though I like cute baby animals in general. I feel a cavity coming on. I agree w/ your other 2 choices. It's been slim pickins' for quite some time.

Hate it. Tenjho Tenge is the epitome of everything I hate in anime - giant breasts and lots of fighting. I hear the manga is far better, but in this case I think "better" means "more bare breasts and violence," so... I probably wouldn't like that either. The very definition of pandering.
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I disagree here. While I will grant you that there's an overabundance of fanservice & fighting, that shouldn't detract from the story itself. This is predominantly about martial artists so fighting is the medium in which they communicate. Were this a Rival School-style story minus the fanservice, I'd still tune in. The story could also play out sans violence but I don't think it necessarily diminishes the story's value.
 
[quote name='StarKnightX']This actuallly reminds me of something I've been meaning to bring up for discussion in this thread for the last couple days. Regarding editing in US Manga. I don't know how many of you are familiar with the "editing" job of Tenjho Tenge but I know that lots of fans refuse to support the US release because of it. Personally I've not read either the original nor the US version to comment on it , but I do have a few other manga that have had editing jobs that are "supposedily" detrimental to the quality of the manga.

Two I can think of off hand being Shaman King and Ultimate Muscle.

My question is , I like both manga , but both are edited , and of course VIZ is most likely never going to release unedited versions of either story. Should I support the US release of these stories despite the editing because I like them , or should I just find alternate means of enjoying the originals?

I can elaberate on my situation if anyone isn't completly sure what I'm getting at.[/QUOTE]
I guess it doesn't bother me, provided the edits don't affect the story. Viz's Fullmetal edit made some people go nuts, which I thought was a severe overreaction. Who freaking cares what shape the stone slab is? As long as the edits don't bother you, buy what you like.

Oh, and I forgot a couple spring anime picks, shame on me: The new xxxHOLiC series should be good, there's the second season of Code Geass for people who enjoyed the first, Macross Frontier might come through for Macross fans, and I predict that Kure-nai will be the best show of the season if it keeps up the precedent set by its first episode. Seriously, watch Kure-nai.
 
[quote name='StarKnightX']But then you have some manga that are mostly intact with only minor edits vs ones that are heavily censored.

I mean you have ones where the material is completly changed like Ultimate Muscle and Tenjo Tenge.
Then you have ones where it's just minor stuff that doesn't REALLY effect the story overall like DBZ and Fullmetal Alchemist.
Then you have ones which are somewhere in between like Shaman king and I's (I might be mistaken on that one though)

So do you not support any of them because they're all edited somewhat , or just not support the really bad ones




I'd be meaning to give it a try one of these days , even though reviews are all over the place , with some saying it's like a more adult DBZ to some saying it's mindless junk. Either way , I think it at least looks somewhat entertaining , and ultimately isn't it all about entertainment? (Most of the time at least;))[/QUOTE]

Smaller edits won't bother me much, but take Tenjho Tenge , the creator very much intended for it to have gratitous nudity to go along with all that gratitous violence, taking that out may protect the kiddies but it isn't how it was meant to be read. If a title is 90 percent unchanged okay I could let that slide, any more though and I will probably leave it on the shelf.
 
[quote name='Kirin Lemon']I guess it doesn't bother me, provided the edits don't affect the story. Viz's Fullmetal edit made some people go nuts, which I thought was a severe overreaction. Who freaking cares what shape the stone slab is? As long as the edits don't bother you, buy what you like.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='coolsteel']Smaller edits won't bother me much, but take Tenjho Tenge , the creator very much intended for it to have gratitous nudity to go along with all that gratitous violence, taking that out may protect the kiddies but it isn't how it was meant to be read. If a title is 90 percent unchanged okay I could let that slide, any more though and I will probably leave it on the shelf.[/QUOTE]

Yeah , that was basically what I was getting at. I was really just looking for other thoughts on the matter , since I know some people get really serious about it. Feeling that if you let ANY edit slide , no matter how small or insignificant that it will open the doors to massive stupid edits. The fullmetal stone slab edit and the DBZ hercule edit were both ones where I too thought everyone was just overreacting.
 
[quote name='StarKnightX']This actuallly reminds me of something I've been meaning to bring up for discussion in this thread for the last couple days. Regarding editing in US Manga. I don't know how many of you are familiar with the "editing" job of Tenjho Tenge but I know that lots of fans refuse to support the US release because of it. Personally I've not read either the original nor the US version to comment on it , but I do have a few other manga that have had editing jobs that are "supposedily" detrimental to the quality of the manga.
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I actually started getting into Tenjho Tenge when I bought some volumes on a whim from Waldenbooks. I liked it, but I had no idea it was censored until after the fact. If Battle Royale can go unedited in North America then anything should/can.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I actually started getting into Tenjho Tenge when I bought some volumes on a whim from Waldenbooks. I liked it, but I had no idea it was censored until after the fact. If Battle Royale can go unedited in North America then anything should/can.[/quote]

It all varies on who releases the product. Battle Royale is done by Tokyopop, which is pretty lax in most cases on censorship. Tenjho Tenge is done by CMX, which im not sure what else they release, but they may censor their other works as well. Even Viz gets out there when it comes to censorship. They censored the a scene in the manga for Fullmetal Alchemist because it showed Greed being cruicified on a cross.


Gantz should raise the bar a bit as far as the gore goes. But since Dark Horse (Berserk) is releasing it, its just another day in business for them. God, i cant wait to actually be able to read Gantz without looking at a screen (or wasting a lot of ink and printing out the scanlations.
 
[quote name='Bezerker']It all varies on who releases the product. Battle Royale is done by Tokyopop, which is pretty lax in most cases on censorship. Tenjho Tenge is done by CMX, which im not sure what else they release, but they may censor their other works as well. Even Viz gets out there when it comes to censorship. They censored the a scene in the manga for Fullmetal Alchemist because it showed Greed being cruicified on a cross.

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That's what I don't understand. CMX is a part of DC Comics IIRC. I know DC has released graphic novels of american comics that weren't kid friendly.
 
[quote name='Bezerker']It all varies on who releases the product. Battle Royale is done by Tokyopop, which is pretty lax in most cases on censorship. Tenjho Tenge is done by CMX, which im not sure what else they release, but they may censor their other works as well. Even Viz gets out there when it comes to censorship.[/quote]

That's very true , in fact I was gonna mention that in my last post , that all of the manga I mentioned as having issues of varying quality (barring Tenjho Tenge) were VIZ manga. Dark Horse , Tokyopop and most of the smaller publishers are pretty good about leaving it the way it is , but VIZ seems to be the worst with making changes , which is funny since they've been helping lead the mainstream push of uncut less cut anime on tv with naruto.

As for CMX , if you didn't know , is actually a subdivision of DC comics. As far as what else they release , I can't remember off hand , but I know most of the rest of there stuff is supposed to be either minimially edited or not edited at all. Tenjho Tenge seems to be the sole major exception.

Also
They censored the a scene in the manga for Fullmetal Alchemist because it showed Greed being cruicified on a cross.
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Funny you say that since it was already mentioned about 3 or 4 posts above you.

[quote name='Kirin Lemon']Viz's Fullmetal edit made some people go nuts, which I thought was a severe overreaction. Who freaking cares what shape the stone slab is?[/QUOTE]

Not exactly the same thing I suppose but still kinda funny.

Edit: Damn , Guile beat me to mentioning DC Comics.:whistle2:#
 
[quote name='assassinX']For any of you who read Tenjou Tenge, how far does it go when compared to the anime?[/QUOTE]

Anime covers pretty much up until the last ep , at least half of it , then makes up a fight for the end. OVA's also seem to be a mash up of different manga events. Manga has since far surpassed that point.
 
So when I watch HD anime on my PC, the audio lags behind the video (or something like that), meaning my PC sucks I suppose. What I'm trying to find out is what's the recommended requirements you would say for the CPU and video card?
 
[quote name='suko_32']So when I watch HD anime on my PC, the audio lags behind the video (or something like that), meaning my PC sucks I suppose. What I'm trying to find out is what's the recommended requirements you would say for the CPU and video card?[/QUOTE]

Well what are you running first? What cpu, what video card, sound card if any and ram?
 
[quote name='coolsteel']Well what are you running first? What cpu, what video card, sound card if any and ram?[/QUOTE]

Actually, I looked at my computer and I think I already have my answer. Thanks though.

If I want to upgrade it's easier for me to just buy a new computer and once I do that I'll solve my problem.

Also, it's funny that my laptop can play HD anime even though it's less powerful than my desktop.

Edit: To clarify, my laptop can't play it perfectly if super fast things are going on.
 
[quote name='suko_32']So when I watch HD anime on my PC, the audio lags behind the video (or something like that), meaning my PC sucks I suppose. What I'm trying to find out is what's the recommended requirements you would say for the CPU and video card?[/quote]

Are you talking about anything in 720p and above? I'd say 'minimum recommended' for running smooth video would be:

2GHz CPU
512MB video card
1 and a half GB DDR RAM

On my older comp, I've got:

2.1GHz CPU
256MB Radeon 9800xt
1 GB DDR RAM

and it also lags and sometimes stalls whenever I try to open a new application (like Firefox or Skype) while watching anime. In contrast, my newer comp has:

2.66GHz dual core CPU
(2) 768MB EVGA 8800GTX in SLI mode*
3 GB of DDR2 RAM

and everything runs so silky smooth. It scoffs at me for my paltry attempts to work it hard.:lol:

*you'll need a LOT of room for this as this card is a fat baby so you can imagine what two of them are like
 
Yeah, I was mainly looking at 720P. I guess I'll look into buying a new computer over the summer since the one I'm using is already 3-4 years old with very small upgrades along the way.
 
You may want to look into using the CoreAVC codec rather than the one that they use in CCCP. CoreAVC is much more low requirement. I used to be able to run 720p on a comp with 2.53ghz P4 (no HT or dual core), 1gb of ram and an old 256mb ATI card. It was hit and miss sometimes though. Comps keep getting cheaper and cheaper, you can get a barebone quad core system for $275 now. Thats a good thing to put that tax rebate towards in a few weeks.

Back on topic, I've started reading 20th Century Boys (after having it on my harddrive for over a year and a half). Only about 6 chapters in (in a 21 volume series), so i cant really comment too much on it, but I love Urasawa's other works, so i'm sure this wont be any different.

Speaking of manga, can anyone recommend MW? Yaoi aspects kind of gross me out, but it sounds like a really disturbing manga. I've got some credit at Amazon and they have it for $16.47 (and I have Prime).
 
[quote name='Bezerker']You may want to look into using the CoreAVC codec rather than the one that they use in CCCP. CoreAVC is much more low requirement. I used to be able to run 720p on a comp with 2.53ghz P4 (no HT or dual core), 1gb of ram and an old 256mb ATI card. It was hit and miss sometimes though. Comps keep getting cheaper and cheaper, you can get a barebone quad core system for $275 now. Thats a good thing to put that tax rebate towards in a few weeks.

Back on topic, I've started reading 20th Century Boys (after having it on my harddrive for over a year and a half). Only about 6 chapters in (in a 21 volume series), so i cant really comment too much on it, but I love Urasawa's other works, so i'm sure this wont be any different.

Speaking of manga, can anyone recommend MW? Yaoi aspects kind of gross me out, but it sounds like a really disturbing manga. I've got some credit at Amazon and they have it for $16.47 (and I have Prime).[/QUOTE]

Coreavc is alot faster, but costs money. It can be found other ways though.
 
just finished Genshiken 1 and 2 one of the best anime series ive seen in a while. right up there with welcome to the nhk. anyone know of any other anime that are like these?
 
[quote name='lokizz']just finished Genshiken 1 and 2 one of the best anime series ive seen in a while. right up there with welcome to the nhk. anyone know of any other anime that are like these?[/QUOTE]

Genshiken, I really liked the manga. NHK was also a great series. You might want to give BECK a chance and, hmm. It looks like you're looking for more slice-of-life so, there's always Lucky Star. That's all I can think of for now.
 
Is it true Naruto is beginning filler again?

Did I ask that already? Seems like I did, but I don't see it.
 
[quote name='SeanAmI122886']Is anyone here keeping up with the FMA or Hellsing mangas?[/QUOTE]

Yes. Hellsing 92 won't be out until the 30th, and FMA 82 just popped up a day or two ago.
 
[quote name='Rig']Is it true Naruto is beginning filler again?

Did I ask that already? Seems like I did, but I don't see it.
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Anime - yes
Manga - no

[quote name='lokizz']just finished Genshiken 1 and 2 one of the best anime series ive seen in a while. right up there with welcome to the nhk. anyone know of any other anime that are like these?[/quote]

If you mean slice of life anime then Honey & Clover & Nodame Cantible might be up your alley. If you mean quirky slice of life, then Lucky Star & School Rumble might be a better pick.

As you can see, I'm clearly biased and prefer Lucky Star but I enjoyed School Rumble as well.
 
Woo, "Place Promised in our Early Days" and "5cm per second" came out on Blu-Ray today. Now if i could only find a site that confirms if it has English subs or not.
 
so i forced myself to watch gundam seed and i liked it. it was a very bumpy start but it started getting interesting after a while. not a great show by any means but it was entertaining enough

what's the best gundam series?
 
[quote name='tehweezner']so i forced myself to watch gundam seed and i liked it. it was a very bumpy start but it started getting interesting after a while. not a great show by any means but it was entertaining enough

what's the best gundam series?[/QUOTE]

That would vary wildly depending on who you ask.
 
[quote name='tehweezner']so i forced myself to watch gundam seed and i liked it. it was a very bumpy start but it started getting interesting after a while. not a great show by any means but it was entertaining enough

what's the best gundam series?[/QUOTE]

Gundam 00 really has taken that honor for now, but since that is on break until September or something like that go watch 0079, if you like that go watch zeta or 08th team. And stay the hell away from Seed Destiny, it completely falls apart by the end. If you don't like older animation though then just watch 08th team and 00. I don't recommend 0080 or 0083, don't really add anything to the overall story.

Edit: Forgot about it since it is so short, Gundam Igloo had some really good moments in it too.
 
[quote name='jaykrue']Anime - yes
Manga - no
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Thanks.

(It was the anime I was curious about...I don't read the manga.)
 
I really disliked anything with mechs until I watched RahXephon and Gundam Seed. I have since watched a lot of them, a couple of Gundam series (Wing, MS 08th Team, Wing, etc.) and I still haven't found one that I liked as much as Gundam Seed.

I'm really not into the extremely hot-blooded ones though like Godannar.

And while I'm here again, I've re-watched/watched nothing but One Piece for a few weeks and I'm up to episode 320 now. It's still so damn great even though I'm reading the manga too.
 
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