HEROES - super thread...

Huh? I posted it 10 minutes after the episode ended.
[quote name='Pookymeister']Its called spoiler tags, luckily when i read it at 8, i had no idea what you were trying to say.

Anyway,
what exactly did Hiro do when he used his powers? Did he localize a reverse in time or something?
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[quote name='naes']Huh? I posted it 10 minutes after the episode ended.[/quote]

It ended where you are - not where every CAG is. Im on the east coast and it started 50 mins after you posted. West Coast won't see it for a while.
 
I'm on the East Coast. It's 10:23 as I type this... What time is Heroes on for you? It's on at 7 here...
[quote name='Pookymeister']It ended where you are - not where every CAG is. Im on the east coast and it started 50 mins after you posted. West Coast won't see it for a while.[/quote]
 
[quote name='naes']I'm on the East Coast. It's 10:23 as I type this... What time is Heroes on for you? It's on at 7 here...[/quote]
You crazy Canucks - its on at 9
 
[quote name='Pookymeister']It ended where you are - not where every CAG is. Im on the east coast and it started 50 mins after you posted. West Coast won't see it for a while.[/quote]
You shouldn't be looking at this thread if you knew that. We shouldn't have to use spoiler codes after the episode airs.
 
[quote name='Kaijufan']You shouldn't be looking at this thread if you knew that. We shouldn't have to use spoiler codes after the episode airs.[/quote]

Actually, out of respect for other CAGs, we should and we have been. Even my theories I put in spoiler tags for up to a few days after the episode. Plus I don't recall there being spoiler warnings in the thread title. But to each his own.

And back on track,
Tonights episode was pretty intense, atleast buildup wise. I didn't expect the death and the flying bit was a toss up due to the Petrili's. And now that Peter can channel anything thats been done near him, he is going to be insane.

Also, what a sucky way for Stan Lee to get a cameo, unless of course its a continual role and he has some sort of ability or he's Linderman :rofl:.

All in all, this week was solid and I can't wait for next weeks episode, especially with the Bennet house (I think it was the house) being on fire and the viewers getting atleast a few answers, that no doubt will turn into questions.
 
[quote name='Kaijufan']You shouldn't be looking at this thread if you knew that. We shouldn't have to use spoiler codes after the episode airs.[/quote]

How many people figure that spoilers will be posted by 8pm EST?
 
It was my fault. I'm really sorry and I'll use spoiler tags. I thought that everyone saw it, minus West Coast.
[quote name='Pookymeister']How many people figure that spoilers will be posted by 8pm EST?[/quote]
 
[quote name='naes']It was my fault. I'm really sorry and I'll use spoiler tags. I thought that everyone saw it, minus West Coast.[/quote]

Don't worry about it, im not mad since i didn't really get spoiled since it wasn't typed up right - just for next time =]
 
[quote name='naes']It was my fault. I'm really sorry and I'll use spoiler tags. I thought that everyone saw it, minus West Coast.[/quote]

Yeah, no harm no foul.

Though, I am envious since you get to see it at 7. I wish that was the case for me too. Then I'd still be able to watch a few other shows.
 
[quote name='Pookymeister']How many people figure that spoilers will be posted by 8pm EST?[/quote]
If it's like this every week then people should know not to click on the Heros topic, or we should have a seperate running commentary thread for Heroes. On other message boards I go to there doesn't seem to be a problem with it.

The problem with using spoiler codes is that very few people identify what the spoilers are about, so when I click on show spoilers I don't know if it's about the episode that just aired, or a future episode.
 
[quote name='Moxio']I believe I'll start watching this show. It looks interesting.[/quote]
Good choice. It's by far the best new show of the season. I wouldn't be surprised if Heroes wins the Emmy for best drama this year, and it would deserve it.
 
Hooray commercial break.
Awesome, the dood is learning to control his powers. Looked like Neo flyin' around.

[quote name='Kaijufan']If it's like this every week then people should know not to click on the Heros topic[/QUOTE]
Woah there. Would you take offense if I was to somehow download these via torrent and tell everybody what happened in advance of it being on TV? Yes or no, its the same thing as posting spoilers.

I personally think spoilers are stupid but I know tons of other people don't, and ya gotta have respect for the majority.
 
[quote name='Kaijufan']If it's like this every week then people should know not to click on the Heros topic[/QUOTE]
Woah there. Would you take offense if I was to somehow download these via torrent and tell everybody what happened in advance of it being on TV? Yes or no, its the same thing as posting spoilers.

I personally think spoilers are stupid but I know tons of other people don't, and ya gotta have respect for the majority.
 
Wow great episode. Peter's training keeps reminding me of a young Bruce Wayne.
Loved the part where he started using those powers like crazy. Awesome!
 
The shows really picking up some speed the past couple episodes. Halfway through I thought of the possibilities in a eventual Sylar VS Peter superfight. I don't know how many episodes are left but it seems like a fight that huge would be too soon for this season's finale. I hope the Bus Driver appears again!
 
I just realized I had a typo.:lol:
[quote name='naes']It was my fault. I'm really sorry and I'll use spoiler tags. I thought that everyone saw it, minus West Coast.[/quote]
 
Alright, I was finally able to watch it this morning and I have to say that I called the Simone death. Though of course there are several ways that it could be reversed, Peter could use TK to take out the bullets, could use a localized "claire healing" field, or could reverse time a-la Hiro.

Anyone else think Peter is starting to become a pretty darn good villian? As well, this is proof that he can pick up sylar's exhibited abilities and not just natural abilities.
 
[quote name='crystalklear64']
Woah there. Would you take offense if I was to somehow download these via torrent and tell everybody what happened in advance of it being on TV? Yes or no, its the same thing as posting spoilers.
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Posting spoilers without a spoiler code before everyone sees the episode is totally different that people posting about the episode without spoiler codes after they viewed it.
 
I love the HRG story arc. I've got a feeling that dude's gonna get his soon, but I've really enjoyed that character. Even though it's kind of a stock character, the actor playing him does a really good job of using that smirk to good/bad effect. Here's hoping HRG sticks around as long as possible...
 
solid episode...a very enjoyable hour of tv...I heard a phrase used to describe this show that I thought was very fitting..."every week they give you the illusion that the story is moving forward"...There has been something about this show that has made me not be dying to see every episode and I think that quote summed it up for me...I hope that the writters learn the mistakes of lost and not do what lost did...IMO both lost and hereo's did something on tv that was out of the norm, and lost has been losing millions of viewers over the past 2 seasons. Lost is in the middle of season 3, and they have only been on the island for 4 months. IMO unless the writting gets tighter, they might have similiar issues going forward

I either heard this on a podcast or read it on tv guide about peter's powers...I don't rember if it was an official statement or if it was speculation about peters powers but I thought that it was interesting idea espicall with claude talking about the pigeons and mating them
the speculation/or official thing on peter is that he has all the powers in him. He couldn't control them so only the one ability that the nearest hereo to him would act up. He has had the ability to predict the future in his dreams, but he hasn't come across anyone with that ability (unless the old man he was taking care of had that ability)

the one very interesting aspect of this show is, who is the bad guys and who are the good guys? IMO it is a very debatable subject, espically when you take into account the color of there clothes...typically the bad guy wears black and hiro from the future was in all black and peter was in a lot of black last night...the only thing for certain is that sylar has killed a lot of people, but what if he changes? It is possible in tvland to have a major character change like that.
 
for the first time in a couple of weeks, heroes lost in total viewers in the overnights


Heroes (NBC): 8.9/13
24 (Fox): 9.2/13

it is expected that heoes will win the key demos
 
[quote name='ryanbph']solid episode...a very enjoyable hour of tv...I heard a phrase used to describe this show that I thought was very fitting..."every week they give you the illusion that the story is moving forward"...There has been something about this show that has made me not be dying to see every episode and I think that quote summed it up for me...I hope that the writters learn the mistakes of lost and not do what lost did...IMO both lost and hereo's did something on tv that was out of the norm, and lost has been losing millions of viewers over the past 2 seasons. Lost is in the middle of season 3, and they have only been on the island for 4 months. IMO unless the writting gets tighter, they might have similiar issues going forward[/QUOTE]
IMO they're moving the story along on Heroes at a perfect pace. Look at the good comics/graphic novels for similar pacing. There's always just a little bit at the end of each issue to inch things forward as you move along in a given chapter and overall story. If Heroes's potential 2 or 3 seasons are broken up with a few chapters for each season (where issues = episodes), I think that would rock.

People want to compare Lost to Heroes but I don't think the comparison is valid. Lost is a fucking train wreck--they're clearly making it up as they go along (especially with the recent introduction of time travel, which hadn't been hinted at ANYWHERE in the show's previous episodes). Heroes on the other hand seems to be fairly deliberate, at least for this first season. The Lost writers and other TV writers could learn a lot from the comics, where you've got to spread story out over many issues and establish "events" within that story to keep readers. Goddamn I hate Lost so much right now.
 
well that is your opinion on lost, it isn't fact based about them making it up as they go...from most reports the problem on the lost set is they need to know how long they have to tell the story they wanted...You also can't compare season 1 of hereos and season 3 of lost, you should do season 1 of both....and while i do like hereo's better, lost was a much bigger phenoman (sp?) as they were pulling in way over 20 mill viewers on a weekly basis and it was something that a lot of people would talk about the next day.

How many weeks have gone on since the first episode...maybe 2...how much of the story have we been told...it was great to have zulo on the show, but was there any real reason for hiro father to be on the show...last nights episode did take the story forward a big step..but the previous weeks were little halfsteps forward and that is what bogged down lost...the whole dancer and ando/hiro storyline was a waste of airtime...they could have had hiro dump ando a back when his lady friend at the dinner died...there has been a lot of little backstory that really doesn't evolove the character or story that are put into the show just to put it in...
 
[quote name='Kaijufan']Posting spoilers without a spoiler code before everyone sees the episode is totally different that people posting about the episode without spoiler codes after they viewed it.[/quote]

Ok...and havent you noticed that he posted the spoiler to the episode ending at 8:08 EST time? Correct me if im wrong, but Heroes would not have aired anywhere in the US yet.
 
i really liked last nights episode. it looked like peter could be evil and i really want to see where the whole parkman, nuke guy, and net girl goes.
 
[quote name='ryanbph']well that is your opinion on lost, it isn't fact based about them making it up as they go...[/QUOTE]
Umm, they've blatantly provoked so many questions that they have no intention of answering. That sort of thing tends to happen when you decide to wing it and bullshit a bit.
http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=24628
There is no way that anything at this point has come off a carefully detailed storyboard in the Lost writers' room. They cannot resolve the questions they've raised, and they cannot resolve many of the story lines associated with these questions simply because the show is moving faster than the writers can handle. They're clearly out of their league, and the decision to play up the Jack/Sawyer/Kate triangle is evidence of that. The producers will blame the triangle on "execs," but that's a cop out: it's clear that they went with that because, dammit, they couldn't think of anything better. The show was a phenomenon because of its promise, but late into Season 1 it became apparent that the writers couldn't match the enthusiasm of their fans.

[quote name='ryanbph']but the previous weeks were little halfsteps forward and that is what bogged down lost...the whole dancer and ando/hiro storyline was a waste of airtime...they could have had hiro dump ando a back when his lady friend at the dinner died...there has been a lot of little backstory that really doesn't evolove the character or story that are put into the show just to put it in...[/QUOTE]
It's these little steps that make the show good IMO. Constant action would just trivialize the moments where people use their powers to do something unexpected. Interspersing action with a chance to learn more about the people behind the superpowers is what makes the show stand out. I'm just hoping that they "stay small" and try not to do too much in one season. Slow and steady makes for good TV when there's imagination and good writing behind it.
 
all your talk about lost is still not based on any fact as neither of us know what the conclusion of lost will be....nor do either of us know where hereo's will be in season 3...everyone thought that lost had great imagination and good writting behind it in season

you seem to be defending heroes by attacking lost...rather then defending hereos

never asked for constant action... the whold hiro/ando storyline recently was action...it still seems to move the storyline ahead very little

honestly i enjoy watching the show every week, and was kinda suprised that that the lost thing has been talked about more then the good/bad character comments that i made
 
[quote name='ryanbph']
you seem to be defending heroes by attacking lost...rather then defending hereos
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Uh, I wasn't under the impression I was defending Heroes. I was addressing each one separately.

You can dig on Lost all you want, but if you're trying to suggest that Lost is building to a rewarding conclusion that's going to explain everything, you're talking fantasy. Lost is its own monster.
 
all i am saying neither one of us know what will happen in lost or hereo's in the future...what i did say was that the love the hereos is getting now in its first season is no where near the love lost got...the hereos story is moving at a snails pace and the quote that i heard to describe the show was dead on.

What i did want to talk about was something the writters on lost have done an excellent job at keeping from us. Who is good and who is bad? As there can be arguments on most of the characters so far
 
The idea of Peter being bad could be pretty catostophic. If both him, and Sylar were bad guys, they'd be pretty much unstoppable, especially they teamed up and went after the other heroes individually.

But with Sylar being around Mohinder, I wonder if he is slowly going to lose his killer instinct, especially after gaining this last ability, though it is a good one for him once he controls it. He'll be able to sense the fear in the victims even more.

All in all, I think Peter is just in a dark place right now and with the death of Simone (wheter real or just there to get reversed later) may push him away from everyone for a little bit longer. I think in the end he will be a good guy, but may run the line for a while between good and evil.
 
This isn't a spoiler, I don't think, since it came about 6 months ago, but I'll hide it anyway...

Peter will eventually be the "savior" character; there's little chance that he'll end up being evil, like Sylar. Reference Hiro's speech to Peter in the Subway: he mentions Peter is "the one we need" and that he "looks different without his scar". Something crazy's going to happen with Peter, and it's going to be fucking awesome...

So far, the lines of Good/Evil haven't really been clearly defined. Is Bennet evil? Ted/Matt/Hana? The only definitive character is Sylar, but even he hasn't been fully explained yet - he asserts that Chandra Suresh "made him" lust for more abilities.
 
[quote name='alongx']This isn't a spoiler, I don't think, since it came about 6 months ago, but I'll hide it anyway...

Peter will eventually be the "savior" character; there's little chance that he'll end up being evil, like Sylar. Reference Hiro's speech to Peter in the Subway: he mentions Peter is "the one we need" and that he "looks different without his scar". Something crazy's going to happen with Peter, and it's going to be fucking awesome...

So far, the lines of Good/Evil haven't really been clearly defined. Is Bennet evil? Ted/Matt/Hana? The only definitive character is Sylar, but even he hasn't been fully explained yet - he asserts that Chandra Suresh "made him" lust for more abilities.
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Thats a very interesting way of looking at the situation. I think we all know where 4 people stand at the moment. Peter, Hiro, and Claire are the big 3 do-gooders and Sylar is a bad ass mofo. Other than that, we can only speculate at this point. And here are my speculations, soley based on opinion and nothing more or less;

Nathan - I think he'll ultimately be a bad guy, possibly even a leader

Matt - He's a tough sell either way. Right now he's leaning me towards bad, but thats just due to Ted

Ted - Bad, especially with this whole revenge angle

Mr. Bennet - He'll be percieved as a bad guy, until he dies to save Claire in the season Finale, ;)

Haitian dude - He walks the line too well to call, but I'll go good guy only following orders

I don't really have too many opinions on the DL/Micah/Niki/Jessica arc, as I see it as being pointless at this point. And I've not really read into the new chick to see where she lies, but I am guess she'll be bad.

Guess I really didn't have much worthwhile.
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']
Thats a very interesting way of looking at the situation. I think we all know where 4 people stand at the moment. Peter, Hiro, and Claire are the big 3 do-gooders and Sylar is a bad ass mofo. Other than that, we can only speculate at this point. And here are my speculations, soley based on opinion and nothing more or less;

Nathan - I think he'll ultimately be a bad guy, possibly even a leader

Matt - He's a tough sell either way. Right now he's leaning me towards bad, but thats just due to Ted

Ted - Bad, especially with this whole revenge angle

Mr. Bennet - He'll be percieved as a bad guy, until he dies to save Claire in the season Finale, ;)

Haitian dude - He walks the line too well to call, but I'll go good guy only following orders

I don't really have too many opinions on the DL/Micah/Niki/Jessica arc, as I see it as being pointless at this point. And I've not really read into the new chick to see where she lies, but I am guess she'll be bad.

Guess I really didn't have much worthwhile.[/quote]

Nice summary, craven.
However, I think that Nathan may come around yet. The whole DL/Micah/Niki/Jessica arc has been a waste of my time.
 
[quote name='jeffreyjrose']Nice summary, craven.
However, I think that Nathan may come around yet. The whole DL/Micah/Niki/Jessica arc has been a waste of my time.
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Agreed xalot. Finally caught the ep. I dont click here until I watch it so I dont spoil it. Great show, continues to be excellent. Owns the crap out of Lost. Also, FYI Ryan, I think I saw an interview with the writers of Lost where they said they made it up as they go. Could be wrong, but it certainly seems like it. The show is nowhere near as good as it used to be.
 
[quote name='jeffreyjrose']Nice summary, craven.
However, I think that Nathan may come around yet. The whole DL/Micah/Niki/Jessica arc has been a waste of my time.
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well ....
in peters vision of the future dl/micah/niki or jessica (whos the "good" one again?) are all there, together. so we can only assume that something is going to change with them and they will play a role in the end of things.

then again who knows what peters vision meant, i mean sylar wasnt there, parkman was in uniform and it changed between the two dreams and so did the people in it. for all we know its just a dream.

oh and can we keep the lost arguments in the lost thread, i come here for heroes gossip
 
[quote name='Pookymeister']Ok...and havent you noticed that he posted the spoiler to the episode ending at 8:08 EST time? Correct me if im wrong, but Heroes would not have aired anywhere in the US yet.[/quote]
Ah I see he is in Canada, which I guess does make it a problem since the majority of people from these message boards are posting from the US. Usually I just skip right past the location part of a profile. ;)
I'm very surprised they not only air the episode on the same day in Canada, but before it airs in the US.
Still, I don't think we should have to use spoiler codes after the episode airs in the US. Spoilers for any previous episode should be assumed for a topic like this.
 
Theyre showing it tonight in cehnehdeh for some reason. Means it'll be up for DL tonight too :p

[quote name='naes']It's not on tonight in the States?[/QUOTE]

Nope.
 
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