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JBL is a good character and okay in-the-ring. Basically his stick work is so awesome, it makes up for the less-than-stellar matches he pulls off in the end.

As much as I love the current Batista storyline, HHH is actually performing it well, that Edge vs. Batista match does have me worried. Don't get me wrong - Edge isn't the best worker, and Batista has improved his ring skills - but for main eventing Wrestlemania?

Well, I suppose compared to the obvious JBL vs. Cena match coming up...
 
The Batista storyline seems like they trying to stretch it out a bit, since Raw doesn't have a PPV after the Rumble. But I think the storyline to build up WM is that Triple H setup JBL with the limo and the video, so that he wouldn't face Batista at the PPV. But probably this monday, it will be revealed that Trip was behind it all and kicks Batista out of Evolution(which is bascially dead anyway) after singing the contract for the World Heavyweight Title match at Wrestlemania.

Also, Guile, I don't think Ted Dibase would fit right in JBL's cabinet. Cause if he showed up, people would see right away that JBL is a Million Dollar Man rip-off(although even now he does).
 
[quote name='supermariomelee']The Batista storyline seems like they trying to stretch it out a bit, since Raw doesn't have a PPV after the Rumble. But I think the storyline to build up WM is that Triple H setup JBL with the limo and the video, so that he wouldn't face Batista at the PPV. But probably this monday, it will be revealed that Trip was behind it all and kicks Batista out of Evolution(which is bascially dead anyway) after singing the contract for the World Heavyweight Title match at Wrestlemania.

Also, Guile, I don't think Ted Dibase would fit right in JBL's cabinet. Cause if he showed up, people would see right away that JBL is a Million Dollar Man rip-off(although even now he does).[/quote]

I think Batista will find out before he signs the contract and will face HHH and leave Evolution on his own.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Too bad he's all into Jebus, no?[/quote]

?? Who is into Carlito's partner, lol?

[quote name='supermariomelee'] Also, Guile, I don't think Ted Dibase would fit right in JBL's cabinet. Cause if he showed up, people would see right away that JBL is a Million Dollar Man rip-off(although even now he does).[/quote]

You might be right, but with JBL's legit financial background it could be interesting. I guess I am just a huge DiBiase fan. Of all the heels in the 80's, he was the one I loved to hate the most. I felt bad for Virgil, lol.
 
[quote name='guyver2077']tritan!!!!!![/quote]

You know, I normally appreciate your one word posts, as it gives me a parsimonious expalantion of what's going on on television at the moment.

But, I must ask...who is the fuck is tritan?

myke.
 
[quote name='mykevermin'][quote name='guyver2077']tritan!!!!!![/quote]

You know, I normally appreciate your one word posts, as it gives me a parsimonious expalantion of what's going on on television at the moment.

But, I must ask...who is the shaq-fu is tritan?

myke.[/quote]



THIS IS TRYTAN!!!!!!


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Is that the dude who used to be Titus?

Was he on TNA today?

The three way that Chris Candido won was good, but I didn't really pay attention otherwise.

myke.
...full of sushi and pale ale. huzzah!
 
I sleep during the day and return to see my little topic has shot off again and I've missed a full page.

Well.. as for Batista, I believe one of his main concerns in OVW must have been his age. Keeping in mind that he was about 10 years older than most other OVW guys (that WWE was planning on bringing up) it must have been rather frustrating knowing that he was losing some of his better years in the minor leagues. It's kind of like DDP, maybe Batista will stalk the Undertaker's wife soon...

I agree JBL is a total rip-off of the Million Dollar Man gimmick. The real pity is Ted Dibiase was way more fun to watch than JBL, and yet Dibiase never got anymore than an IC title reign... well that and his "million-dollar belt" oh the comedy.

Hopefully Kurt beats John Cena and faces the Big Show for the title, although we all know JBL will find a way to win... again... and the title matches/main event at WM21 will feature JBL and Batista in them... just horrid.
 
Well, cage matches, which are designed to "keep out interference" never seem to hold true to that. Expect 10 tons of interference.

I think that's a good point about Batista, but to have such an ego about it (him, not you)?

Ted DiBiase has JBL beat because he was a fantastic wrestler. He looked like a middle age man with little to no physique (he had no muscle definition, but that's not a good comparison to someone like JBL). JBL at least is huge and menazing. MDM used the same cheating tactics to win very often, but it worked because he didn't look like anybody who could win a match on his own.

IIRC, MDM was supposed to win the belt at WMIV (the tourney). Something happened that caused him to lose. I think that it involved the Honky Tonk Man not wanting to lose the IC belt to someone else (Macho Man?), and that changed the structure of the tournament to allow at least one babayface to hold a singles title. I don't remember the story very well, but Vince was convinced that MDM should hold it.

Furthermore, the setup for the tourney was the vacating of the belt; Andre won it by beating Hogan on some show, and gave it to MDM. When Jack Tunny (biiiatch!) decided that the belt could not be given away, it was held up and the tourney happened. Well before WMIV, the audience knew that Ted DiBiase was a man who would try to grasp the WWF title by any means, legitimate or not.

myke.
...downloaded a copy of WWE Classic (European program of old Wrestling Challenge progs), and was tickled pink that they didn't edit out the announcers saying "WWF." Funny, though, since the law that made them change their name really only holds true in Britain. Weird.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']IIRC, MDM was supposed to win the belt at WMIV (the tourney). Something happened that caused him to lose. I think that it involved the Honky Tonk Man not wanting to lose the IC belt to someone else (Macho Man?), and that changed the structure of the tournament to allow at least one babayface to hold a singles title. I don't remember the story very well, but Vince was convinced that MDM should hold it.

Furthermore, the setup for the tourney was the vacating of the belt; Andre won it by beating Hogan on some show, and gave it to MDM. When Jack Tunny (biiiatch!) decided that the belt could not be given away, it was held up and the tourney happened. Well before WMIV, the audience knew that Ted DiBiase was a man who would try to grasp the WWF title by any means, legitimate or not.[/quote]

That's exactly right. Macho Man was scheduled to win the IC title belt on I believe a Saturday Night Main Event show. But Honky Tonk Man threatened to jumped ship with the belt to another company, which he made a few other times until McMahon smartened up and put in that match with the Ultimate Warrior(which lasted about 1 minute) to lose the belt knowing he wouldn't do anything. So to make it up to Macho Man, they gave him a world title reign. But one weird thing was the week before WM IV, their magazine was released a week early and revealed Macho Man was going to win the title(It claimed "Macho Man, new WWF champion"). And this was before everyone realized that it was scripted.

One thing about the Honky Tonk Man I don't understand is if he would've jumped ship with the belt, wouldn't WWE filed a lawsuit? Look what happened when Ric Flair showed up in the WWF with the WCW World Heavyweight Title. WCW went after him with a fury, which they eventually replaced it with a tag title belt, then phasing out the whole "he's the real world's champion".
 
Ya, honestly, Batista should've just been happy to be winning all those matches and getting a shot at the WWE.

Dibiase was great, IIRC Macho Man won that tournament in the end, beating Ted Dibiase in the final (I think) there was a great promo on that, with Savage going nuts about how he "wanted it a little more" Savage really did tend to lose it during his promos.

I expect a world of interference in the No Way Out match as well. I mean really what's the point of the barbed wire anyway? I'll tell you... it's because the Big Show and JBL are both too damn big and gumpy to actually climb over the cage, so the barbed wire is a good excuse for them not to. Someone will probably win by going out the fucking door, which is just ridiculous; unless they put wire around the door too, and that would be great. Otherwise expect Orlando Jordan to run in and save JBL again.
 
[quote name='supermariomelee']That's exactly right. Macho Man was scheduled to win the IC title belt on I believe a Saturday Night Main Event show. But Honky Tonk Man threatened to jumped ship with the belt to another company, which he made a few other times until McMahon smartened up and put in that match with the Ultimate Warrior(which lasted about 1 minute) to lose the belt knowing he wouldn't do anything. So to make it up to Macho Man, they gave him a world title reign. But one weird thing was the week before WM IV, their magazine was released a week early and revealed Macho Man was going to win the title(It claimed "Macho Man, new WWF champion"). And this was before everyone realized that it was scripted.

One thing about the Honky Tonk Man I don't understand is if he would've jumped ship with the belt, wouldn't WWE filed a lawsuit? Look what happened when Ric Flair showed up in the WWF with the WCW World Heavyweight Title. WCW went after him with a fury, which they eventually replaced it with a tag title belt, then phasing out the whole "he's the real world's champion".[/quote]

Well, if I could describe WWE in one word, that word would be "litigious." Sweet Jebus I'm inebriated, so apologies in advance for any spelling errors. WWE is so lawsuit happy, they'd sure the pope for exclusive rights to use the "pope hat" (just picture Batista in that!). That's a major inconsistency in the Honky Tonk Man scenario; if he threatened to leave, they'd be on his ass in a heartbeat.

Than again, I think that guaranteed contracts only existed after Eric Bischoff-era WCW; WWF didn't want their talent to leave for "ATM Eric," so they followed suit and locked up their dudes for periods of time. Perhaps if that is true, then the HTM could have feasibly left with the IC belt and the WWF would have been up a creek (this doesn't explain the Ric Flair situation, though that might have been due to the "big gold belt" being NWA/WCW's property).

I don't get the Warrior title loss, though. Why would he lay down for that guy in less than a minute? If he was so certain that he was the greatest of all time, why not go out in a long "battle to the death," to use a bit o' hyperbole. Interesting, that.

...and that about does it.

myke.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback'][quote name='smellhasreturned']ahhh wrestlemania 21 the game better not suck.[/quote]

but you know it will[/quote]

The only Studio Gigante title I know of is Tao Feng, which I hope is Mandarin for "We know it's a piece of shit...live with it."

On the other hand, John Tobias is on record stating that he reveres No Mercy as being the single best Wrestling game ever, so there is a glimmer of hope.

Small roster aside, I don't get the hate people have for WMXIX and Day or Reckoning; in my opinion, they are very much like No Mercy. What gives?

myke.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback'][quote name='smellhasreturned']ahhh wrestlemania 21 the game better not suck.[/quote]

but you know it will[/quote]

The movelist in the CAW is TERRIBLE. Absolutely TERRIBLE.
 
So what are people's Wrestlamania matchup predictions? At this point, mine would be:

Raw:
HHH (c) vs. Batista
Edge/Flair vs. Benoit/Foley
Kane vs. Snitsky vs. Hardy
Benjamin (c) vs. Christian vs. Jericho

Smackdown:
JBL (c) vs. Cena
Eddie vs. Booker T
Another Cruiserweight Battle Royale

Interbrand:
HBK vs. Angle
Orton vs. Undertaker
 
Axe Handle? Huh, you'd think a cross-body splash would be in there, so's you can school everybody with Ricky Steamboat!

The speciality moves help define characters, though (not just finishers, I mean). I hope it turns out well, though you do make a good point.
 
I already pre-ordered my WM 21, hopefully it should at least be a decent game. I'm just happy that there are a lot more match types online than there were in SD Vs. Raw. WCW/nWo Revenge and Wrestlemania 2000 were two of my top favorite games.
 
That movelist for Wrestlemania XXI isn't absolutely awful, though I do agree about the turnbuckle flying moves vs. standing opponent - I mean, no flying clothesline or cross body splash? Yeesh! I can't blame them too much, though - Gigante doesn't have years and years of stock animations to use, they've started from fresh on this one.
 
I wish you guys would quit bashing WMXXI before it even comes out. The gameplay looks decent, the graphics look great, give it a chance.

[quote name='AdamInPlaidum']I'm hearing now that apparently you can purchase more moves? I sure hope that's true.[/quote]

yeah.

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[quote name='Zenithian Legend']How does Randy Orton vs Undertaker at WM come into the picture...[/quote]

Simply a rumor I've heard. "Legend vs. Legend Killer"
 
But both are faces, thus is doesn't make sense to me. I also wonder what's to become of HBK vs Angle, since they've yet to interact since the Rumble. Either those plans were scrapped, or expect Michaels to help Cena win tonight.

As for Taker I expect him to end up facing/squashing someone like Luther Reigns and/or Mark Jindrak at WM in order to preserve his WM undefeated record that he cherishes so much.

Orton seems to be headed towards a match with Christian, but I could be wrong on that one.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']But both are faces, thus is doesn't make sense to me. I also wonder what's to become of HBK vs Angle, since they've yet to interact since the Rumble. Either those plans were scrapped, or expect Michaels to help Cena win tonight.

As for Taker I expect him to end up facing/squashing someone like Luther Reigns and/or Mark Jindrak at WM in order to preserve his WM undefeated record that he cherishes so much.

Orton seems to be headed towards a match with Christian, but I could be wrong on that one.[/quote]

That's part of what I think it is. The last legitimate threat to Undertaker's record was the Street Fight with Ric Flair. Orton vs. Undertaker is a match that Undertaker very legitimately could lose (though I don't think he will).
 
I really thought Taker's streak was over when he had to go up against HHH at WM in what actually was also a street fight, or perhaps just a no-dq match. Pretty good match IIRC, ending with an errant sledgehammer shot and then the last ride onto some object or another somewhere a ways outside the ring.
 
[quote name='mykevermin'][quote name='CaseyRyback'][quote name='smellhasreturned']ahhh wrestlemania 21 the game better not suck.[/quote]

but you know it will[/quote]

The only Studio Gigante title I know of is Tao Feng, which I hope is Mandarin for "We know it's a piece of shit...live with it."

On the other hand, John Tobias is on record stating that he reveres No Mercy as being the single best Wrestling game ever, so there is a glimmer of hope.

Small roster aside, I don't get the hate people have for WMXIX and Day or Reckoning; in my opinion, they are very much like No Mercy. What gives?

myke.[/quote]

I liked WMXIX a lot. Really fun game, and though there was a crappy story mode and a lot of room for improvement, the foundation was solid. DoR I did hate. The blocking in the game was uber sucky and really ruined the game.

I will continue to say WMXXI sucks, to make up for the hype me and my friend had about Raw 2. Also studio gigante has never made a wrestling game before.
 
[quote name='gigan54']so....... anyone watching no way out?[/quote]

Guess that answers that. I'd offer up some typical smarmy comment, but I just woke up to read about Hunter S. Thompson.

man, oh man.

myke.
 
So I understand JBL won by crawling out from under the ring after Big Show put him through the mat. That...is...awesome. I don't which is funniest, that or Jeff Jarrett using a cello.

And they gave Paul London a HUGE push. He pinned Funaki, Spike, and Shannon, KO'd Akio, only to be screwed out of it by Chavo using the ropes. This nicely sets up a Wrestlemania encounter, methinks. Thank you WWE!
 
I'd hold onto that Thank You. I'm glad to see London get something resembling a push; now let's see if they get any TV time, ever. From what I read, the title match (elimination style, no less) ran under 10 minutes.

Jesus.

myke.
 
Anyone see the upcoming episode of surreal life? I caught a glimpse of it...and it looked like X-Pac was coming to visit, with lots of drama and crying.... Anyone else see this...?
 
Steamboat, in the picture with the title, looks a lot like Scott Hall, except of an Asian persuasion.
And my vote, if its not WM-connected, would be for Barry Horowitz (the guy that used to pat himself on the back all of the time but rarely won a match.)
 
[quote name='Theenternal']Anyone see the upcoming episode of surreal life? I caught a glimpse of it...and it looked like X-Pac was coming to visit, with lots of drama and crying.... Anyone else see this...?[/quote]

yea i saw that, stupid xpac ruinin things
 
I'll be live at Raw next week and they already showed adverts for next weeks main event on TV here., saying tickets were still available.
 
[quote name='JimmieMac']I'll be live at Raw next week and they already showed adverts for next weeks main event on TV here., saying tickets were still available.[/quote]

You gotta do something to get yourself on camera. I want to see the Icon on TV.
 
Man, the crowd didn't give a shit about that match. Stevie Richards has bounced around between face and heel so many times I think the crowd forgot who they should be cheering for and just sat silently.
 
I like how that had a nice little reference back to when Evolution turned on Orton. That was pretty cool, even if we knew that Batista would stay on Raw. Plus, who doesn't love seeing Hunter powerbombed through a table.

Out of curiosity, was there any advancement in the Stacy/Randy storyline? I missed the first hour to 24.
 
[quote name='karsh']I like how that had a nice little reference back to when Evolution turned on Orton. That was pretty cool, even if we knew that Batista would stay on Raw. Plus, who doesn't love seeing Hunter powerbombed through a table.

Out of curiosity, was there any advancement in the Stacy/Randy storyline? I missed the first hour to 24.[/quote]

Stacy and Orton were shown walking together, HBK interrupted them to talk to Orton. Not much else with Stacy and Orton though.
 
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