[adult swim thread]

[quote name='GuyWithGun']Holy shit, that show is fucking weird.

I've seen it while flipping through channels, and it's so weird that it locks you in if you stare at the screne for more than a minute. Those puppets mixed with people are freaky as hell.

BTW, good thing subbie isn't posting right now, he'd be all about that little girl in Lazy Town. :)[/quote]
there is this one dude that has her as an avatar and sig.

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Lazytown isn't even a tiny bit as freaky as "Pee Wee's Play House"

The human characters on Lazytown at the very least seem somewhat normal. Robbie Rotten is just funny, Sportacus is just very outgoing, and Chibi Us..I mean Stephanie is just cute.

As for Pee Wee's, I pretty much lost any shred of like or respect for Adult Swim when they decided to air it. How Pee Wee's Play House is more legitimate to the programming block than the number of anime they could acquire [Ranma, Slayers, Utena, Escaflowne, Ah My Goddess] or simply showing more of the shows people actually enjoy or perhaps showing more movies.

Seriously, I don't see how anyone could enjoy the show, Pee Wee looks like a complete degenerate, something out of a Dali painting..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Reubensmug.jpg

Well, I just found out more about Pee Wee than I wanted to know. How is this guy on the air? He's a pervert, a completely disgusting individual...read the wikipedia
 
[quote name='sarausagi']He's a pervert, a completely disgusting individual...read the wikipedia[/QUOTE]

He masturbated....oh wow, like 99% of the people posting here don't do that daily. And as for the "child porn", that was just a few naked pics of kids in a pile of artwork books from the 18th century that were perfectly legal at the time of their publication...and it's just stupid that they'd charge him on anything like that.

"One thing I want to make very, very clear, I don't want anyone for one second to think that I am titillated by images of children. It's not me. You can say lots of things about me. And you might. The public may think I'm weird. They may think I'm crazy or anything that anyone wants to think about me. That's all fine. As long as one of the things you're not thinking about me is that I'm a pedophile. Because that's not true."

And how is he "completely disgusting"? And then you go on to bash his appearance based on a bad mugshot. HEY, let's base everyone's appearances on mugshots! And despite what you may think, he is a very kind-hearted guy. He recieved various offers during Playhouse's run from various candy and sugar companies. He could've accepted them and made another few millions....but he didn't because he didn't want the future of America to be hocked up sugar and only wanted the best for the kids. Which is why he took advantage of his position as a "Child show star" and designed a very nutritious cereal titled "Pee-Wee Chow". Problem is that the kids at the focus group hated it. And he still believes to this day that's it's a good idea.

And even when he's not pandering to the kids, he can be a comic genius. His earlier Pee-Wee standup stuff and Pee-Wee's Big Adventure are masterpieces. PW's Big Adventure is probably one of my favorite movies of all time.

I fuckING HATE IT when ignorant people like you only look at the dark side of people and try to drag them through the dirt. Judging people like that has to be the worst thing you can do, acting like you don't have any skeletons in your closet. The man has just had a run of bad luck thanks to the media and the ignorant people like you that obey it, and unless you're "Little Miss Perfect", shut the hell up. And even if you are, no one likes a stuck-up. Every friend he has has had nothing but great things to say about him and defend him. Conan O'Brien, David Letterman, and the late Phil Hartman included. Are they "completely disgusting" for showing such good will to this "pervert"??
 
[quote name='SMMM'] homoerotic peewee love/peewee otaku-ness[/QUOTE]

His face and his voice freak me out, humans tend to shun and disapprove of what scares them. HE scares me. And the fact that he does have some sort of criminal record, proves that he is a little messed up.

I don't recall Brian, Hartman, or Letterman publicly masturbating.

Anyways, sorry if I offended anyone. He just freaks me out.
 
[quote name='sarausagi']His face and his voice freak me out, humans tend to shun and disapprove of what scares them. HE scares me. And the fact that he does have some sort of criminal record, proves that he is a little messed up.

I don't recall Brian, Hartman, or Letterman publicly masturbating.

Anyways, sorry if I offended anyone. He just freaks me out.[/QUOTE]

Sounds to me like you're the one that's messed up. Did a creepy uncle touch you the wrong way when you were little?

What a great rebuttel, btw. He has a criminal record = he's messed up. I can tell you right now that there are millions of messed up people out there with and without criminal records. They're called humans.

And publically masturbating? It was in a damn porno theater. What the hell else are you supposed to do there? I doubt he even knew it was illegal. You make it sound like he was waving his dong around central park during rush hour. It's common sense that he doesn't deserve nearly the amount of fleck he's gotten from the incident. I mean BOTH times, he was arrested soley on stupid technicallities.


and ahahahahahaha. I love how you say im gay for pee-wee for that i'm I'm an "otaku" for defending somone that doesn't deserve the fleck he's gotten by stating cold hard facts instead of "ewww...he's distguusitng!11!!". Hey, if I wanted to play your game, I'd call you a stupid japanophile bitch by wanting more anime on the AS block (when there's clearly enough, possibly more than the comedy now) and by even using the term "otaku". But I'm a better man than that, so I didn't.

And after you come in with another short, meaningless post to try to defend what little point you have, just watch this just to show how little I even care anymore! =)

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=FPxY8lpYAUM[/media]
 
Regardless of what people think of Pee-Wee, the show is not ADULT SWIM material. It's neither "adult" or animated. What's next? Sesame Street and Teletubbies?

As for Pee Wee's, I pretty much lost any shred of like or respect for Adult Swim when they decided to air it. How Pee Wee's Play House is more legitimate to the programming block than the number of anime they could acquire [Ranma, Slayers, Utena, Escaflowne, Ah My Goddess] or simply showing more of the shows people actually enjoy or perhaps showing more movies.
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I lost respect when they aired Saved by the Bell and Pee-Wee just made it worse. I like SBTB but it has no place on Adult Swim. I used to watch AS every night and now I don't care anymore (except for Saturdays).

There are plenty of people that think Paul Reubens is freaky, and there are plenty that feel the character of Pee-Wee and/or the show is creepy. That isn't something that unusual. Moxio said it also, and frankly I share that opinion.

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The creepiness factor in looks is right there with Michael Jackson (although I do like Michael Jackson's music, it's just the man that creeps the hell out of people). If you like him, more power to ya but there is nothing wrong with being creeped out by him or thinking he is perverted. People are just as entitled to that opinion.

The man has just had a run of bad luck thanks to the media and the ignorant people like you that obey it, and unless you're "Little Miss Perfect", shut the hell up. And even if you are, no one likes a stuck-up.
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Come on now, she wasn't being stuck up, and the "let he who has not sinned cast the first stone" stuff would mean no one could ever say anything about anyone. It's a specious argument at best. She even said...

Anyways, sorry if I offended anyone. He just freaks me out.
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A stuck up person wouldn't say that.
 
Nobody's watching Metalocalypse or the new Venture Brothers episode? For shame. :shame:

We know you don't like AS anymore, Guile. You've said it enough times in this thread alone that it's getting repetitive. If you don't watch anything but the anime, why post here instead of just going straight to the anime thread?

Why can't they try anything new? They can't go outside the box at all without "offending" people? You'd rather have the same cartoon with different characters for 6+ hour a night? I'm not sure if I recall there ever being guidelines to what AS is "supposed" to show at all. I don't really understand people who suddenly can't watch Adult Swim at all with a show like Pee Wee's Playhouse on the schedule since I can stand watching most of the shows they have regardless of my hatred for 12 Oz. Mouse and it's success (I'm just baffled by even writing those last six words together). Hell, I can stand Pee Wee much more, and even get a laugh or two out of it a show, and skip over the crap I hate, which is easy to do with a remote.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']
Metalocalypse and new Venture Brothers are up for viewing on AS Fix. Enjoy.

[/QUOTE]

The new Venture Brothers was pretty great...

All I have to say is... "IGNORE ME!"
 
[quote name='sarausagi'] As for Pee Wee's, I pretty much lost any shred of like or respect for Adult Swim when they decided to air it. How Pee Wee's Play House is more legitimate to the programming block than the number of anime they could acquire [Ranma, Slayers, Utena, Escaflowne, Ah My Goddess] or simply showing more of the shows people actually enjoy or perhaps showing more movies. [/quote]

Escaflowne's TV rights are now again up in the air so it's possible that Adult Swim could potentially acquire them if they wanted to. It would be a decent idea considering Inu Yasha will eventually end and they can fill the bishounen/romantic drama niche pretty well for the girls while offering the slaughter offered up in mechs and otherwise for the guys. But with the poor reception with the Escaflowne movie...who knows. It would be right up their alley though.

Utena could be a good choice as well but I believe AZN still has the rights at the moment. Same ~could~ be said of Slayers if it's still under Enoki's banner (highly unlikely). However, since I recall hearing that FUNimation acquired the rights to Slayers TV from CPM a year or so ago it could be in a bit of limbo as FUNimation attempts to redo Slayers on DVD.

As for Ranma and Ah My Goddess...well, Anime News Network has had a few interviews with the head of action programming before and she's fairly adamant about not airing particular anime. Ranma still remains something they can't get away with due to, I guess, the partial nudity here, there, and everywhere and they don't seem to want to censor it. I think they also believe that there won't be an audience for it like there was Inu Yasha (probably rightfully so). That and she said she won't even consider any anime that demeans women so that kicks out of a lot of popular/potential choices as well.

Time will tell though. They do seem to have a few worthwhile things down the pipe for the time being at least but...nothing along the lines that would hit the popularity of Cowboy Bebop again, I imagine...nor Big O for its second season. It comes close to the latter at times but the Saturday night deal was never a good one. A whole night of anime when most 18+ people are out elsewhere? Hell, I miss Venture Brothers on AS all the time on Sunday night and I love the show to death.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']
We know you don't like AS anymore, Guile. You've said it enough times in this thread alone that it's getting repetitive. If you don't watch anything but the anime, why post here instead of just going straight to the anime thread?[/quote]

Because the anime thread almost consists soley of fansub discussion, and usually any Adult Swim anime discussion generates no response. The only person that has mentioned it recently is karsh IIRC.



I actually didn't start disliking the block until the whole SBTB experiment. Other people in the thread agreed, it's just that they don't post as much as you and I do here. These are really the only times I even mention it in the 40+ posts I have made in this thread.

http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1856570&postcount=259
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2039149&postcount=329
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2094989&postcount=357


It's not like I am threadcrapping (or going DDF if you remember him :lol:) because I have said I like a lot of the non-anime shows.

http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1431240&postcount=45
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1434683&postcount=51
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1705505&postcount=188
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1990419&postcount=297

I just saw sarausagi's post and was replying in agreement.



I wonder if they would ever show Heavy Metal on Adultswim. It definitely fits the "adult" premise. I only saw it once though and I don't remember how much editing they would have to do to air it. I'm sure it is a lot though.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']

I wonder if they would ever show Heavy Metal on Adultswim. It definitely fits the "adult" premise. I only saw it once though and I don't remember how much editing they would have to do to air it. I'm sure it is a lot though.[/QUOTE]

I think it has aired on TV before, I'm almost positve it was on the sci-fi channel once or twice. To be honest though, there's any number of anime movies they could put on with or without editing. I think them not doing comes down to 2 things, 1) their idiotic programming which is starting to shy away from anime in general and 2) their cheapass ways of not wanting to acquire the TV rights.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I wonder if they would ever show Heavy Metal on Adultswim. It definitely fits the "adult" premise. I only saw it once though and I don't remember how much editing they would have to do to air it. I'm sure it is a lot though.[/quote]

I think that it's just way too old for them to even consider airing and there would be a need to censor far too much for them to even consider it. If they thought about editing the nudity in Ranma and stayed away from that then Heavy Metal would probably never come up in consideration.

But they would probably toss a "hey, watch this!" or something into a bump just for fun. If they can't show/provide something may as well toss a Suggested Viewing/Listening for it instead!
 
:applause: for SMMM. I agree wholeheartedly with everything you say! Paul Reubens may have jerked it at a porn theater, but that doesn't make him a weirdo. I bet everyone here knows someone (whether they know it or not) who has done something sexual in public.


Though I don't watch Pee-Wee consistently, I can see why it's a good fit for Adult Swim (besides the whole "live action" thing.) It's exhaustively creative and original and funny as hell. Hell of a lot better than the crap they show kids nowadays.

As for Pee Wee's, I pretty much lost any shred of like or respect for Adult Swim when they decided to air it. How Pee Wee's Play House is more legitimate to the programming block than the number of anime they could acquire [Ranma, Slayers, Utena, Escaflowne, Ah My Goddess] or simply showing more of the shows people actually enjoy or perhaps showing more movies.
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:rofl: you bash pee wee for being weird, yet you go on to recommend anime about a guy who can change into a girl. I haven't seen any of those other shows, but from my experience, all anime has some shred of sexual deviance...whether a character is extremely flamboyant, androgynous, in love with their cousin, a rapist etc. etc. Don't even get me started on gratuitous upskirts on little girls.

nothing like that on Pee Wee's Playhouse :lol:
 
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Screw it, I'll build my own late night cartoon block, with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the block and the blackjack!

Hell, if they are going to bring more kids shows I want to see Fat Albert, Thundercats, and Reading Rainbow. Seriously.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']Because the anime thread almost consists soley of fansub discussion, and usually any Adult Swim anime discussion generates no response. The only person that has mentioned it recently is karsh IIRC.



I actually didn't start disliking the block until the whole SBTB experiment. Other people in the thread agreed, it's just that they don't post as much as you and I do here. These are really the only times I even mention it in the 40+ posts I have made in this thread.

http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1856570&postcount=259
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2039149&postcount=329
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2094989&postcount=357


It's not like I am threadcrapping (or going DDF if you remember him :lol:) because I have said I like a lot of the non-anime shows.

http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1431240&postcount=45
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1434683&postcount=51
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1705505&postcount=188
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1990419&postcount=297

I just saw sarausagi's post and was replying in agreement.



I wonder if they would ever show Heavy Metal on Adultswim. It definitely fits the "adult" premise. I only saw it once though and I don't remember how much editing they would have to do to air it. I'm sure it is a lot though.[/quote]
The thing is that I've seen you basically post the same thing (about how you don't have any faith in AS anymore) in this thread and in the various Adult Swim threads that have popped up enough that it starts to seem like whining to make sure everyone knows you don't like them. I know you probably don't mean it like that, but that's how it seems when someone says the same thing over and over and over again. It's funny to make a sarcastic remark about this kind of thing as a response to their post, though I obviously didn't do it this time.

I'd post more about AS's anime in the anime thread if I wasn't taping it and being weeks behind when I watch it. You won't know if anyone wants to talk about an AS show if you don't post in there. I post about stuff I want to talk about in there all the time and hardly anyone actually wants to talk about it, as well, but I don't really care since I tried. I agree that they pretty much just talk about Bleach, Naruto, One Piece, and whatever random fansub anime is the flavor of the moment, like the title of the thread would suggest.
 
[quote name='Strell']Wow.

Brendon Small's idea got absolutely ripped to shreds.

Thanks for another abortion, Adult Swim.[/QUOTE]

I looked for Small's name in the credits but didn't see it. Is he still with the show?

It wasn't horrible like 12 oz. Mouse or Squidbillies or Perfect Hair Forever, but it wasn't anything near what I was expecting either. The random killing was pretty funny, especially the missed stage drop, but I couldn't understand a blasted thing said, and if that was the point, it wasn't a good one.

This makes me miss the old Adult Swim, however, with Brak, Sealab, Aqua Teens, as well as Mission Hill, Baby Blues, Home Movies and the Oblongs. All of those feel-good shows. I think [as] has lost it's way with their humor. They're trying to force shock humor on us instead of just having stupid fun.
Add Boondocks and Venture Bros. to the above lineup, go ahead and give Futurama and Family Guy the night off (they're on all week!) and I think you'd have a fairly decent Sunday night lineup.

With that being said, I think Metalocalypse belongs on Saturday instead of Sunday. And despite not being truly impressed, it still alot better than some of the other "new" stuff they're putting up.
 
[quote name='TurkeyOnRye']This makes me miss the old Adult Swim, however, with Brak, Sealab, Aqua Teens, as well as Mission Hill, Baby Blues, Home Movies and the Oblongs. All of those feel-good shows. I think [as] has lost it's way with their humor. They're trying to force shock humor on us instead of just having stupid fun.
Add Boondocks and Venture Bros. to the above lineup, go ahead and give Futurama and Family Guy the night off (they're on all week!) and I think you'd have a fairly decent Sunday night lineup.[/quote]

Ahh, the Golden Age of Adult Swim. :)

The one good thing is that at least we have the DVDs for most of those now.
 
man i loved Metalocalypse to death, holy shit was it awesome...


i guess i liked it a lot because of all the references to certain bands and it was just so awesomely over the top
 
[quote name='TurkeyOnRye'](Stuff)[/QUOTE]

Overall, this is my basic attitude towards [as] now.

Small is still with the show - it was his idea to begin with, and the music is most certainly his (you can easily tell it matches anything Dwayne's band did).

But I couldn't understand a damn thing anyone said (singing or not), the improv like humor from Home Movies isn't there, and there's too much "wow it's awkward and WACKY!" humor to it (for example, the clandestine guy talking about them in front of the tv screens....wtf is going on with that?).

I think originally Dethklok was supposed to be about the band's off-stage adventures and less about 1) random death and 2) playing metal songs. I remember the early promos had these hardcore looking guys standing in a supermarket and not knowing what the hell they were supposed to do. And THAT would have been hilarious.

But now. I think [as] got ahold of it at some point (it got delayed a long time) and said "we want this this this and this" and completely ruined it in the process. It's trying to be another in your face shitfest, only it has more blood and metal music.

I hope [as] dies. Seriously. They hardly show Boondocks anymore at a time I can find it (worse than Fox with their constant reschedulings), which makes me think [as] execs got pissed because it was becoming a very popular show, and my guess is that they don't get as big of a cut of the pie as they'd like. Sure, it's coming back for a second season, but that has been delayed because of new episodes, which doesn't completely make sense to me. I guess I'd think you could....make episodes while new ones are airing? Like you did with season one?

Everything has to be some derivative of 12 oz mouse at this point. Awkward idiot humor spiced up with arrogant "if you don't get this, it's because we're better than you" bullshit. Just like all their bumps, all their responses to fans, etc etc.
 
[quote name='Strell']Overall, this is my basic attitude towards [as] now.

Small is still with the show - it was his idea to begin with, and the music is most certainly his (you can easily tell it matches anything Dwayne's band did).

But I couldn't understand a damn thing anyone said (singing or not), the improv like humor from Home Movies isn't there, and there's too much "wow it's awkward and WACKY!" humor to it (for example, the clandestine guy talking about them in front of the tv screens....wtf is going on with that?).

I think originally Dethklok was supposed to be about the band's off-stage adventures and less about 1) random death and 2) playing metal songs. I remember the early promos had these hardcore looking guys standing in a supermarket and not knowing what the hell they were supposed to do. And THAT would have been hilarious.

But now. I think [as] got ahold of it at some point (it got delayed a long time) and said "we want this this this and this" and completely ruined it in the process. It's trying to be another in your face shitfest, only it has more blood and metal music.

I hope [as] dies. Seriously. They hardly show Boondocks anymore at a time I can find it (worse than Fox with their constant reschedulings), which makes me think [as] execs got pissed because it was becoming a very popular show, and my guess is that they don't get as big of a cut of the pie as they'd like. Sure, it's coming back for a second season, but that has been delayed because of new episodes, which doesn't completely make sense to me. I guess I'd think you could....make episodes while new ones are airing? Like you did with season one?

Everything has to be some derivative of 12 oz mouse at this point. Awkward idiot humor spiced up with arrogant "if you don't get this, it's because we're better than you" bullshit. Just like all their bumps, all their responses to fans, etc etc.[/QUOTE]You know what you could do? You could stop watching it.
 
[quote name='jmcc']You know what you could do? You could stop watching it.[/QUOTE]

I'd still hope it dies.

I don't need little [as] nuggets running around who think that shit is actually good.
 
[quote name='Strell']I'd still hope it dies.

I don't need little [as] nuggets running around who think that shit is actually good.[/QUOTE]Man, you don't like something popular. You're hella cool.
 
[quote name='jmcc']Man, you don't like something popular. You're hella cool.[/QUOTE]
Assuming that Popular = Always of Quality, your comment would hold some toilet water.
 
[quote name='jmcc']Man, you don't like something popular. You're hella cool.[/QUOTE]

You're making smartass remarks without any reason or merit, so you're in the same boat I'm afraid.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']
I'd post more about AS's anime in the anime thread if I wasn't taping it and being weeks behind when I watch it. You won't know if anyone wants to talk about an AS show if you don't post in there. I post about stuff I want to talk about in there all the time and hardly anyone actually wants to talk about it, as well, but I don't really care since I tried. I agree that they pretty much just talk about Bleach, Naruto, One Piece, and whatever random fansub anime is the flavor of the moment, like the title of the thread would suggest.[/quote]

I still read it though and I do post quite a bit.

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I wonder if they would ever air Fatal Fury the Motion Picture? It's a VIZ product and there would be only minimal editing needed for Mai. I rememeber the aired it once on Sci-Fi. If they could air then I'm sure AS could.
 
[quote name='Strell']You're making smartass remarks without any reason or merit, so you're in the same boat I'm afraid.[/QUOTE]Shits. I'm sobbing uncontrollably about how my vision of Adult Swim has been perverted by evil network execs also? Something must be wrong in my brain, then.
 
[quote name='jmcc']Shits. I'm sobbing uncontrollably about how my vision of Adult Swim has been perverted by evil network execs also? Something must be wrong in my brain, then.[/QUOTE]

And I'm dealing with a cheeto stained fuckstick.

I really am in shambles.
 
[quote name='Strell']And I'm dealing with a cheeto stained fuckstick.

I really am in shambles.[/QUOTE]I should say so. "Do not contradict my assessment of Adult Swim's poor scheduling and programming decisions, sirrah! I am widely hailed as the most gifted amateur of my generation when it comes to proper cartoon placement procedures!"
 
At this point, you're suggesting that I, as a customer, am not allowed to complain about what they are doing with [as]. Despite that I've boosted their ratings, told other people to watch it, and bought their DVDs, I have absolutely no right or reason to give contradiction to their image and their means.

This is a step below censorship, but it's dumbassry in full motion.

Which I guess must make sense to you somehow, maybe that is what your parents taught you or it's peer pressure or something, I dunno.

Sad to say, but I can disagree with their raping of their own shows and the general direction they've taken, which is this "we're cooler than cool and don't you forget it" attitude that's gone into overdrive when 2-3 idiots on their forums tell them that their shit shows are amazingly humorous and that "most people don't get it."

No, most people just think it sucks.

What [as] has done, with their advertisement-strewn bumps, insanely stupid joke-recycled animated-in-10-minutes shows, and raping of their own fans for a few exec's own bloated egos, is the equivalent of, coincidentally enough, a metal band doing a commercial for coffee.

Instead of taking original shows from other sources that got the shaft from their respective networks and attempting to give them a new place to air, they've decided that their inhouse stuff is far superior. And the only reason they think that is because their bottom line is fattened much more so when it costs (what looks like the equivalent of) $4.13 to produce a show, instead of licensing out something original. Probably so they can mega grande size their lattes in the morning, and buy more Nerf guns to play with in the studios.

Guile is probably chuckling at me, right now.

[as] is the new Fox network. Actually, it's more like its retarded little cousin. The kind that shoves glue up its ass and rants about how purple sunglasses are better than fried okra.

I'm sorry to break it to you that the world doesn't have to agree with you. Just as I am bitching about the product, you are bitching about my bitching, and sadly the irony escapes you.

I mean, the internet, of all places, for someone to bitch about something. And in a forum, no less.

About the only respectable thing they've done lately is give some comedians a place to work every once and a while. Brian Posehn and Zak Galiafinakis (however you spell it) come to mind. Todd Barry to a lesser degree. Lewis Black was in that one episode of Birdman. I'm sure there's more. Mitch Hedburg would be all over that place if he hadn't died...
 
[quote name='jmcc']You know what you could do? You could stop watching it.[/quote]

I actually agree... and I have.
The last show I've seen on Sunday Night [AS] was the first new episode of "Venture Brothers". Since then, I've just not cared to turn it on (and not because of "Venture Brothers"... I actually liked that episode.)
 
[quote name='jmcc']Man, you don't like something popular. You're hella cool.[/QUOTE]

I understand where you're coming from. I do. I hate it when it's the "in" thing to hate something that's actually very popular and cool. If you're not in the minority, fighting for the underdog, than you're a brainwashed sheep. I hate that attitude with a passion.

But at the same time, I agree that [as] has major, major problems to deal with purely from the comedy show standpoint. I used to stay up every Sunday night, work and school be damned, to watch both runs of Sunday night [as] (I watched the first and surfed the net during the second) which was a great way to wind down the entire week and begin anew. I just don't do it anymore. There's not enough right now to pull me back in like that right now. I absolutely abhored Super Milk Chan, but there was enough quality program around it that I still watched for me to endure it. The shows I listed in my last post are the one that made me stay Sunday night after Sunday night watching the same episodes. The newer in-house stuff, would be tolerable if it was just for experimentation purposes starting out. If they had shown 12 oz. Mouse for a month just to "test drive" and cancelled it like they should have because 99% of the [as] viewers hated it, then that's not a problem. To continue the show in spite of the viewers is just stupid. They showed Saved by the Bell despite huge backlash and now Pee-Wee's Playhouse despite backlash, and that is why the [as] faithful have started turning on them.

I'll honestly say though that when they stop with Pee-Wee and other shenanigans and put back up a solid, tried and true Sunday line up (with the experimental new shows here and there that I said I understood) then I'll be back to watch. In the mean time, I'll pick and choose the shows I want and won't go out of my way to support them like I used to.
 
[quote name='Strell']Overall, this is my basic attitude towards [as] now.

Small is still with the show - it was his idea to begin with, and the music is most certainly his (you can easily tell it matches anything Dwayne's band did).

But I couldn't understand a damn thing anyone said (singing or not), the improv like humor from Home Movies isn't there, and there's too much "wow it's awkward and WACKY!" humor to it (for example, the clandestine guy talking about them in front of the tv screens....wtf is going on with that?).[/quote]
It's much easier, and much funnier to watch the show multiple times to understand them. Two of them are from Europe (I think Norway and somewhere else, so that partially to blame. It's a debut episode, so the guy in front of the TV's is part of the anti-DethKlok movement, as well as the other guys he's talking to. He pretty much only knows as much as the OP says, as that's what he's saying about the members of DethKlok.

[quote name='Strell']I think originally Dethklok was supposed to be about the band's off-stage adventures and less about 1) random death and 2) playing metal songs. I remember the early promos had these hardcore looking guys standing in a supermarket and not knowing what the hell they were supposed to do. And THAT would have been hilarious.[/quote]
It's always been about an incredibly and dangerously stupid, but insanely popular metal band. If you watched the show at all, which I doubt from this paragraph, it was all there, the same exact thing you saw in the promos. Nothing's changed since then, so it seems you expected something completely different from what the show is about. They went to the grocery store to get food because they killed their chef with their overly done pyrotechnics. They fail and instead poke the leftover pieces of the chef to make them food.

[quote name='Strell']But now. I think [as] got ahold of it at some point (it got delayed a long time) and said "we want this this this and this" and completely ruined it in the process. It's trying to be another in your face shitfest, only it has more blood and metal music.

I hope [as] dies. Seriously. They hardly show Boondocks anymore at a time I can find it (worse than Fox with their constant reschedulings), which makes me think [as] execs got pissed because it was becoming a very popular show, and my guess is that they don't get as big of a cut of the pie as they'd like. Sure, it's coming back for a second season, but that has been delayed because of new episodes, which doesn't completely make sense to me. I guess I'd think you could....make episodes while new ones are airing? Like you did with season one?

Everything has to be some derivative of 12 oz mouse at this point. Awkward idiot humor spiced up with arrogant "if you don't get this, it's because we're better than you" bullshit. Just like all their bumps, all their responses to fans, etc etc.[/quote]
Nobody "got ahold" of the show and changed it from Brendon's original view of the show, you just seemed to misunderstand what the show was about. Don't believe me? Check out one of Brendon's first news posts on his site regarding the show:

if y'all want to know what's new here's some cool news. I'm working with cartoon network on a new show that i created with my friend Tommy Blacha about a DEATH METAL band called "DEATHCLOCK"- lots and lots of new original music to come. I posted the theme song in the MEDIA section so check it out- i dare you to try to figure out the lyrics, if you can I'll come to your home town and make love to you and your enemies- but back to the "DEATHCLOCK" mp3, expect fast guitar and cookie monster vocals. This show will include much shredding and murder. It will be exciting.
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I don't know what to tell you to make it any easier to understand.

It's up on Adult Swim Fix right now. Go watch it if you want to give it a second chance now that you know what the show is and has always been about.

[quote name='TurkeyOnRye']I looked for Small's name in the credits but didn't see it. Is he still with the show?[/quote]
He was on the very first credit screen as co-creator and co-writer. He also voices Nathan Explosion, performs the music, and is also an Exec. Producer. You must not have been looking hard. ;)
 
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I hope [as] dies. Seriously. They hardly show Boondocks anymore at a time I can find it (worse than Fox with their constant reschedulings), which makes me think [as] execs got pissed because it was becoming a very popular show, and my guess is that they don't get as big of a cut of the pie as they'd like.
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Actually, I'm thinking they hardly show it so that people (like me) go out and buy it on DVD to watch it whenever I feel like. It's a pretty smart tactic, from a business sense... "Oh, you want to see Boondocks? Sorry, we barely show it, but hey guess what, you can OWN it on DVD!!"

I know they were showing Boondocks for awhile to promote the DVD release.

I have to imagine this is the same reason why Sealab, Brak, Harvey Birdman, and to a very lesser extent Aqua Teen Hunger Force aren't shown that much or at all, in order to get people to buy them on DVD. Notice how they don't re-run older Venture Bros episodes either? One can argue it's because of the new season, but even when that season is over I have a feeling they'll re-run season 2, furthermore promoting the whole "Hey, you want to see VB Season 1, you know it's on DVD right?"

They can re-run Futurama / Family Guy 6 times a night into the ground because AS dosen't get a cut of those DVD sales, so they don't care.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it's as interesting a theory as any.

I don't watch AS at all anymore, because all the shows I care about are on DVD. I use the DVR to nab Venture Bros new episodes, as well as Tom Goes To The Mayor and the new Metaloclypse show, but that's about it.
 
[quote name='TurkeyOnRye']I looked for Small's name in the credits but didn't see it. Is he still with the show?[/QUOTE]



no offense, i mean that seriously, but you are one blind mother fucker, his name shows up at least 4 times in the credits : /
 
[quote name='AshesofWake']no offense, i mean that seriously, but you are one blind mother fucker, his name shows up at least 4 times in the credits : /[/QUOTE]

Um... yeah... none taken. No offense, but you are one tactless mother fucker.

Joking aside, I didn't really look that hard in all honesty. It was an afterthought that I didn't notice it but I wasn't watching the credits specifically to see his name either.

Is it really that big of a deal?
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']It's much easier, and much funnier to watch the show multiple times to understand them. Two of them are from Europe (I think Norway and somewhere else, so that partially to blame. It's a debut episode, so the guy in front of the TV's is part of the anti-DethKlok movement, as well as the other guys he's talking to. He pretty much only knows as much as the OP says, as that's what he's saying about the members of DethKlok.[/quote]

I get that. I'm complaining about the way the dude talked. "Taller than tree, not a bumblebee, doodly doodly doo." Wtf was that? Sounds like 12 oz mouse bullshit to me. Doesn't sound anything like anything I've heard on Home Movies.

It's always been about an incredibly and dangerously stupid, but insanely popular metal band. If you watched the show at all, which I doubt from this paragraph, it was all there, the same exact thing you saw in the promos. Nothing's changed since then, so it seems you expected something completely different from what the show is about. They went to the grocery store to get food because they killed their chef with their overly done pyrotechnics. They fail and instead poke the leftover pieces of the chef to make them food.
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Again, I got that. And that was the best part - the grocery store scene. Dude punches through the glass to get fish or whatever.

You're missing the point - what I'm saying is the very first promos only showed this sort of thing - some thrashing, but then these insanly out-of-context situations. And I thought it would be Home Movies like humor - these five guys trying to deal with some odd situation, and improvising half of what they are saying. Instead, it's incredibly scripted, hard to understand, and doesn't feel like Brandon Small had any say in it at all.

Nobody "got ahold" of the show and changed it from Brendon's original view of the show, you just seemed to misunderstand what the show was about.
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Not sufficient proof. The fourth season of Home Movies feels INCREDIBLY different from the first three seasons. There's more cussing, the dialogue is centered around decidedly more mature things, and the show feels less about improvisation. Despite some great episodes, as a whole the season doesn't compare to the first three.

And I think that is what is going on with Dethklok. The fact that it's called "Metalocalypse" instead of the original name makes me think [as] execs wanted to change it. As well as the fact that it got delayed several times. I thought it was supposed to come out last year, or much earlier this year.

I'm not sold on the show, I'm not sold on the premise that Brandon Small is actually controlling it, and I sure as hell think [as] is pulling much bigger strings that may or may not coincide with what he wanted (or wants) to do. We have no way to tell. None.

Maybe this is his way of branching out, maybe he wants to do something new. Maybe someone is making those decisions for him.

Whatever the case, the show is an abortion in the state it's in.
 
[quote name='Strell']I get that. I'm complaining about the way the dude talked. "Taller than tree, not a bumblebee, doodly doodly doo." Wtf was that? Sounds like 12 oz mouse bullshit to me. Doesn't sound anything like anything I've heard on Home Movies.[/quote]
He's trying to relay to the rest of the Anti-DethKlok crew what he knows about the band, which is all that's said during the theme song. It's not supposed to be like Home Movies, it's a new idea.

Get over the idea that Brendon did Home Movies and treat Metalocalypse like it's a new show, which it is. It's funny in sort of a William Shatner (though it's Mark Hamill), grasping at straws sort of way.

This is not Home Movies: Metal Edition, it's Metalocalypse. There's a whole new crew behind this show, so expecting a lot of similarities between the two is going to disappoint.

[quote name='Strell']Again, I got that. And that was the best part - the grocery store scene. Dude punches through the glass to get fish or whatever.

You're missing the point - what I'm saying is the very first promos only showed this sort of thing - some thrashing, but then these insanly out-of-context situations. And I thought it would be Home Movies like humor - these five guys trying to deal with some odd situation, and improvising half of what they are saying. Instead, it's incredibly scripted, hard to understand, and doesn't feel like Brandon Small had any say in it at all.[/quote]
They're called promos. They're supposed to give you a few small pieces of the show to get you interested in seeing what the rest is like. Assuming that's all the show was from the small, out of context, clip is kind of a sign that you expected the wrong show. Since you watched, you know that they weren't there for no reason. They were hungry, and since the pieces left of their chef wouldn't cook dinner for them, they went to the grocery store to try to make their own dinner.

[quote name='Strell']Not sufficient proof. The fourth season of Home Movies feels INCREDIBLY different from the first three seasons. There's more cussing, the dialogue is centered around decidedly more mature things, and the show feels less about improvisation. Despite some great episodes, as a whole the season doesn't compare to the first three.

And I think that is what is going on with Dethklok. The fact that it's called "Metalocalypse" instead of the original name makes me think [as] execs wanted to change it. As well as the fact that it got delayed several times. I thought it was supposed to come out last year, or much earlier this year.

I'm not sold on the show, I'm not sold on the premise that Brandon Small is actually controlling it, and I sure as hell think [as] is pulling much bigger strings that may or may not coincide with what he wanted (or wants) to do. We have no way to tell. None.

Maybe this is his way of branching out, maybe he wants to do something new. Maybe someone is making those decisions for him.

Whatever the case, the show is an abortion in the state it's in.[/quote]
Your proof about it not being Brendon's show is that the name's changed? It's called a working title. It was originally called Deathclock, but the name's already been copyrighted, so it was changed to DethKlok. Trying to distinguish the band's name from the show's name, it changed to Death Clock Metalocalypse, then shortened to Metalocalypse. Explain the corporate corruption you see in this name change.

It seems you can't even trust Brendon's words, so it seems like all hope is lost for you to ever enjoy the show. Good luck trying to enjoy the show, if you can get over this corruption you've created. I'll be enjoying the show greatly and anticipating the rest of the season to see what else Brendon and Tommy have up their sleeves.
 
[quote name='evanft']Strell got pwned.[/QUOTE]

He's not responding to half my argument.

At all.

Beyond that, I've already conceded a few things.

But ok.
 
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