RPG-Thread #3 is extremely linear and does not evolve the genre

[quote name='blueshinra']I didn't play the PS1 port of CT, so this was my first time seeing the anime cutscenes. After getting the regular ending, I really didn't get the bit where
Lucca finds a baby with the blue pendant in the woods. Is this supposed to be Chrono and Marle's kid, or someone else? If this ties into Cross in any way, don't let me know, because I'm finally going to play that soon(ish) and would rather not have any spoilers :p
[/QUOTE]

Yeah it ties into CC, in fact it was specifically made just for that reason. But still, even playing through Cross it still might not be crystal clear who the baby actually is.
 
[quote name='Rodimus']Square Enix did say to expect a big announcement soon regarding a highly requested game. Most everyone says it's a FFVII remake, but I know better. It's a SaGa game.[/QUOTE]

The only SaGa games I've ever played were the ones they renamed Final Fantasy Legends here in the US. I really enjoyed FFL3 the most, and thought the time-travel aspect was well-done.

Aren't they working on a DS port of FFL2?

I have SaGa Frontier 2, but never could get the disc to read on my PS1 or PS3, despite there not being a single scratch on the disc surface.
 
I like SaGa Frontier 2... it's annoying at times but still fun and interesting. I love the graphics/artwork as well, it's pretty unique with its watercolor style.
 
[quote name='blueshinra']The FFVII remake rumor needs to die a bloody, violent death.[/QUOTE]
The only way that rumor will ever die is if that actually remake it.
 
whoo! I am now unemployed as of about an hour ago.

u kno what that means??

time to play RPGs!!! Time is on my side!!
 
Just out of curiousity Jekki, what are you unemployed from? But play away, while you're still free. My fucking job is always getting in the way of my videogames.
 
Jekki: sorry to hear about that from a financial standpoint, but I'm jealous from a "free time for gaming" standpoint.

Also, to all those that said the "charm" and "old school feel" (as I believe I put it) of FFIII DS would wear off... you were right. Nothing to the story, but I'd have prolly kept playing the the battle system didn't suck such balls. No real point to job changing, as the system is so damned broke it's almost pointless. And the battles take FOREVER and encounter rate is way way way too high. Moving on (DQV mebbe... hmmm)
 
[quote name='Rodimus']Yeah it ties into CC, in fact it was specifically made just for that reason.[/QUOTE]Thanks for not letting me know :razz: Anyway, I suspected as much.

[quote name='willardhaven']Death via remake... Honestly I'd love to see all the PS1 Final Fantasies with a graphical makeover.[/QUOTE]The only one I want to see this happen to is FF8 (and with a better script/localization, too).

[quote name='Chibi_Kaji']The only way that rumor will ever die is if that actually remake it.[/QUOTE]Sad but true, and Squeenix will fuck it up somehow. One reason why they've been shying away from the remake for so long is because they know how polarizing it would be amongst the core fanbase.
 
I don't really get why the idea of a FF7 remake is supposed to be controversial. Square has remade the first six games any number of times. It seems inevitable that the later games will follow suit eventually.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']I don't really get why the idea of a FF7 remake is supposed to be controversial. Square has remade the first six games any number of times. It seems inevitable that the later games will follow suit eventually.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but...

- FFVII is the best-selling game in the series, and thus is the one the most people tend to be nostalgic about.
- Square hasn't made many retconny sequels/prequels to other Final Fantasy games several years after the fact.
- FFVII's sequels/prequels brought in a lot of new fans who never played the original, and even if they could, some of them don't want to because they're graphics snobs.

A remake would have to address the needs of both the old fans, who want to see the FFVII they remember, and the new ones, who want the FFVII they imagined through the lens of the sequels/prequels. Whatever they add and/or subtract, a large proportion of the fanbase will be up in arms.

More importantly for Square Enix:

- The most vocal fans who want a remake want it made on the PS3. This will be insanely expensive to make, and there's no guarantee that the company will make a profit on such a venture. The original FFVII cost $40 million to develop, dev costs for a remake would likely be much higher, and remakes always sell less than the originals. A more viable route would be a DS remake, but there would be a huge uproar about that. Better that they make free money via PSN.
- Certain FFVII staffers who are still at Square Enix have said that they want to do a remake, but only if they can get all the key members from the original staff back together again. Seeing as how Hironobu Sakaguchi and others aren't at Square anymore, this has as good a chance of happening as getting the Chrono Trigger Dream Team reunited.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
[quote name='TomJones4']Didnt 2 of the 3 parts of the CT dream team reunite for something, unspectacular?[/QUOTE]
Wasn't that Blue Dragon?
 
[quote name='blueshinra']Wasn't that Blue Dragon?[/QUOTE]

Shows how shitastic that game was.
I paid 60 dollars on release. X_X
 
whoo! started a new game today.

Half Minute Hero.

the thing that bugs me about it is there's a scoring mechanic, a target time to beat on each stage. Honestly, meeting this target time seems impossible on pretty much every stage. As a gamer I usually always strive to reach the high score, but I seriously cannot figure out how it's done...

furthermore the game has mini achievements in each stage which to obtain sacrifices a lot of time.

other than that... game is awesome!!!

[quote name='Rodimus']Just out of curiousity Jekki, what are you unemployed from? But play away, while you're still free. My fucking job is always getting in the way of my videogames.[/QUOTE]lol. I quit my job to go work a new one.

it's crazy coz Im actually hella busy now preparing and doing other stuff. And the thing is, when I move I aint gonna bring a TV so I kinda hafta beat DS2 this week otherwise it's gg.

X_X
 
[quote name='Rodimus']Why does FFVI get the short end of the stick. I'd love to see either a remake or a spin off.[/QUOTE]
Can't do better than perfection.
 
The End of Eternity or Resonance of Fate demo (whatever they decide to call it) has been up on the Japanese XBLA marketplace for a few weeks. I gotta say I'm a little disapointed in the combat. It looks cool, but it all felt so boring after about 5 minutes. Hopefully it's more involved than what I could understand about the battle system.
 
whooo! Im on the final chapter now!!

I can seriously beat it in a day!

yet it'll prolly take me 6 once I see all the side quests >_
 
[quote name='Rodimus']The End of Eternity or Resonance of Fate demo (whatever they decide to call it) has been up on the Japanese XBLA marketplace for a few weeks. I gotta say I'm a little disapointed in the combat. It looks cool, but it all felt so boring after about 5 minutes. Hopefully it's more involved than what I could understand about the battle system.[/QUOTE]

I felt the same at first, but once I got online to figure out how to effectively use the damn battle system, it seemed to get a little better. I just gotta play the thing English to know for sure.
 
every fukkyn RPG in the world is releasin the same day as FF13.

Resonance of Fate
Infinite Space
Yakuza 3
Sakura Wars

two weeks prior we get Fragile,

and a week before that is Strange Journey.

and I want to play all these games!!!

March is jus brutal...
 
[quote name='Rodimus']The End of Eternity or Resonance of Fate demo (whatever they decide to call it) has been up on the Japanese XBLA marketplace for a few weeks. I gotta say I'm a little disapointed in the combat. It looks cool, but it all felt so boring after about 5 minutes. Hopefully it's more involved than what I could understand about the battle system.[/QUOTE]

Hopefully it's A: better once we can understand it and B: gets deeper as the game progresses. I'm not too worried, it's Tri-Ace. Even if the rest of the game is sub par, Tri Ace almost always delivers a fun battle system (at least from what games I've played)

And Chibi: That vid is epically awesome.
 
[quote name='JEKKI']March is jus brutal...[/QUOTE]

Not sure if you have a job lined up already, but it would be seriously epic if you could live off unemployment until you beat all those games.

Forgot about Infinite Space, thanks. These games that release at
 
There's also Shiren the Wanderer next month, but at least there'd be a whole month to play that before the March onslaught. That is, if I didn't have ye olde backlog to contend with. And I like how Infinite Space and others are looking, too. Busy RPG times ahead :whee:

Also, am I the only one NOT getting FFXIII, at all?
 
[quote name='blueshinra']Also, am I the only one NOT getting FFXIII, at all?[/QUOTE]


I am not getting it either. Although I probably will buy Resonance of Fate.
 
[quote name='blueshinra']Also, am I the only one NOT getting FFXIII, at all?[/QUOTE]
Thats a lie. As everyone on earth will be buying FFXIII.
 
I'm getting FFXIII for the soul reason that I wanted free shipping on something during Black Friday week at amazon, and they were also offering that $10 off for paying with a Discover. I thought why not?
 
I believe FFXIII will be the first ever Final Fantasy game I've purchased on day one. (Well, except for FF Crystal Chronicles. Blech)
 
[quote name='Krymner']I believe FFXIII will be the first ever Final Fantasy game I've purchased on day one. (Well, except for FF Crystal Chronicles. Blech)[/QUOTE]

Yeah, my backlog mandated I wait till X, X-2, and XII were on sale for 20 bucks or less before I bought em, but XIII is just too damned purty... I'm such a graphics whore:roll:
 
[quote name='ChibiJosh']Whose idea was it to put a dungeon in Persona that you're only allowed to take two characters into?[/QUOTE]
I'm convinced that Persona 1 was solely designed to punish anyone who bought it.
 
I'm kinda tired with Final Fantasy remakes and would not like to see any more.

I've said it many times, but FF3 DS has way more grinding than the original game. There are also a number of OP stuff in the original FF3 that was rebalanced.

The FF4 remake, I was also displeased with. It felt more difficult, slower, and it took itself way too seriously.

DQ4 and 5 did their original games justice, although the adding of that 3rd marriage candidate kinda made the marriage thing sillier compared to the original, and I expect 6 to really bowl over RPG fans this year.

The only other remake that comes to mind as of now is Romancing SaGa. I haven't played the original, but the remake was kinda fun and I hope SaGa 2 is coming out here.
 
[quote name='kainzero']I'm kinda tired with Final Fantasy remakes and would not like to see any more.

I've said it many times, but FF3 DS has way more grinding than the original game. There are also a number of OP stuff in the original FF3 that was rebalanced.

The FF4 remake, I was also displeased with. It felt more difficult, slower, and it took itself way too seriously.

DQ4 and 5 did their original games justice, although the adding of that 3rd marriage candidate kinda made the marriage thing sillier compared to the original, and I expect 6 to really bowl over RPG fans this year.

The only other remake that comes to mind as of now is Romancing SaGa. I haven't played the original, but the remake was kinda fun and I hope SaGa 2 is coming out here.[/QUOTE]

III and IV are awesome on DS, you can turn up the battle speed to maximum if you think it's slow can't you? I have yet to try the DS Dragon Quest games though. I'm going to give VIII another try one of these days as well.

I'll be honest I have wanted to play Dragon Quest VI since I was a kid... I'm definitely picking it up.
 
The problem with the DS versions of the III and IV are that they increased the increased the difficulty for the Western Markets (like they did back in the 8/16-bit days).
 
I really enjoyed the increased difficulty of FF4 DS. It made things more interesting.

I doubt they'll stop remaking the past Final Fantasies. I am very surprised that they haven't ported the FF3 and 4 remakes over to the PSP yet.

So I guess FF5 would be next? Blech. One of my least favorites. This is the part where blueshinra comes in and says how much she likes FF5 and everyone else just rolls their eyes and shakes their head.

Personally I like the remakes of the old 8 & 16-bit RPGs. Even when they do them wrong it just reminds me why I enjoyed the original experience so much.
 
[quote name='ChibiJosh']Can't do better than perfection.[/QUOTE]

Pretty much. I remember Chrono Trigger coming out the year after FF VI and I thought it was merely 'okay' compared to my perfect, purple-labelled cartridge.

Depending on the lifespan of the DS, I think we'll get an "upgraded" port of VI sooner or later. I'd rather just have a VC release of it and IV simply so I can replay them in their original SNES forms.
 
I think Chrono Trigger is far and away the better game. Better graphics, better battle system, better music, etc.

I was not feeling Resonance of Fate at first but the more I see of it, the more I want to play.
 
[quote name='kainzero']The only other remake that comes to mind as of now is Romancing SaGa. I haven't played the original, but the remake was kinda fun.[/QUOTE]

No, just no. Romancing SaGa (PS2) was terrible. Like not as bad as Unlimited SaGa but still bad. It started off fine but the longer I played it the worse it became because I realized how terrible most of the design decisions in that game are. I mean I don't want this to turn into a total rant but lets just say that having the game advance without you knowing about it (i.e. quests are only available during a certain part of the invisible in-game progression) and the only way to tell that is by checking how many tutorials are unlocked to you in addition to enemy scaling made that game disgusting.

[quote name='Krymner']So I guess FF5 would be next? Blech.[/QUOTE]
Actually I kind of like FF5, I mean sure the plot and characters aren't great especially in comparison to its predecessor FF4; but in my opinion the epic fun of the Job system kind of made up for it.
 
[quote name='willardhaven']I think Chrono Trigger is far and away the better game. Better graphics, better battle system, better music, etc.[/QUOTE]
Definitely. Chrono Trigger pretty much shits on every Final Fantasy.
 
I bought it when I was 10 thinking it would be like Secret of Mana... It was the first turn-based RPG I played correctly (I used to just run away from fights and try to progress the story).
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
bread's done
Back
Top